Evening primrose oil

[Guest guest]

The types of fat in the EPO are very important in healing and controlling cysts

and various fibroid tissue problems in women. Sinc EPO is an avoid for O (the

only good brand is by Efamol, from England), there is a Shaklee product called

GLA that provides the same type of healthy fatty acids as the EPO, but is made

mostly from borage seed oil with some sunflower seed oil. I realize the

sunflower oil is also an avoid for type O, but my type O people who need these

products to heal certain conditions do fine on it and there is less of an avoid

(the sunflower oil) than you get in the complete evening primrose oil product,

because it isn't mixed with anything else. Most other brands tend to be a waste

of money because they just don't work as well. I tell people to ALWAYS start

with a brand that people who work with these things for RESULTS KNOW is a good

one, get your results and THEN start experimenting with other brands if you

want. Once you know the results you are trying to achieve, it is easy to see if

other brands can do the same thing or not.

The Shaklee GLA can be ordered through my website (below my signature.)

My attitude is when we have choices the goal is to use the one with the least

amount of avoid and the Shaklee GLA is the best choice I know of for type O. The

best brands for this type of product on the market in the U.S. are the Efamol

EPO and the Shaklee GLA. The Efamol product tends to be more expensive and is

hard to find and is made in England.

Also, THE ZONE books by Barry Sears, especially the first one, goes into GREAT

DETAIL about this whole issue of EPO, borage seed oil, etc. etc. If you follow

the Zone diet, your body automatically makes enough of those fatty acids that

you don't need to take any supplements, especially if you eat oatmeal once or

twice a week, he says. It is VERY easy to combine blood type and Zone diet

theories, and there even is an email list for that, Sears-D'Adamo.

The ENTIRE ZONE diet theory developed out of Barry Sears' research into the type

of fatty acids found in those oils! It is fascinating to read about if this sort

of thing interests you, in The Zone book, his first one.

He started out trying to make the best possible product source for this type of

fatty acid for the human body, and ended up creating a diet in which the body

can make its own!!!

Since he has something like 24 patents on delivery systems of drugs (mostly

cancer treatments, if I recall correctly) to the human body (that is his DAY

job, or was before he became famous, don't know if it still is), the guy has a

few brain cells operating. He isn't a dummy to say the least. He wrote his first

Zone book for the scientific community and had no intention or expectation of it

being of even passing interest to the lay community, much less becoming a best

seller internationally to the public at large.

A1+NSa+b-MN

www.shaklee.net/tiger__medicine

tenzin@...

Evening Primrose Oil

Hi! I was taking Evening Primrose Oil (1500mg morn & night) because I

had an ovarian cyst. Everytime it started to hurt I would start

taking the EPO but since starting LR4YT I have not taken it as it is

an avoid. Now, my cyst appears to be flaring up. My doctors answer

is to put me on birth control pills which I won't do. I was treating

with EPO and Vit E and dandelion root tea. The dandelion root tea

does not seem to help by itself. Does anyone have any other ideas

that are not avoids for O's? I have felt so good in every other way

since starting LR4YT on April 7th. I have energy and I can run

without knee pain. I have lost some weight (not as much as I had

hoped) but overall I feel great.

[Guest guest]

Cod Liver Oil okay for O's?

--- Tiger Medicine <tenzin@...> wrote:

> The types of fat in the EPO are very important in

> healing and controlling cysts and various fibroid

> tissue problems in women. Sinc EPO is an avoid for O

> (the only good brand is by Efamol, from England),

> there is a Shaklee product called GLA that provides

> the same type of healthy fatty acids as the EPO, but

> is made mostly from borage seed oil with some

> sunflower seed oil. I realize the sunflower oil is

> also an avoid for type O, but my type O people who

> need these products to heal certain conditions do

> fine on it and there is less of an avoid (the

> sunflower oil) than you get in the complete evening

> primrose oil product, because it isn't mixed with

> anything else. Most other brands tend to be a waste

> of money because they just don't work as well. I

> tell people to ALWAYS start with a brand that people

> who work with these things for RESULTS KNOW is a

> good one, get your results and THEN start

> experimenting with other brands if you want. Once

> you know the results you are trying to achieve, it

> is easy to see if other brands can do the same thing

> or not.

>

> The Shaklee GLA can be ordered through my website

> (below my signature.)

>

> My attitude is when we have choices the goal is to

> use the one with the least amount of avoid and the

> Shaklee GLA is the best choice I know of for type O.

> The best brands for this type of product on the

> market in the U.S. are the Efamol EPO and the

> Shaklee GLA. The Efamol product tends to be more

> expensive and is hard to find and is made in

> England.

>

>

> Also, THE ZONE books by Barry Sears, especially the

> first one, goes into GREAT DETAIL about this whole

> issue of EPO, borage seed oil, etc. etc. If you

> follow the Zone diet, your body automatically makes

> enough of those fatty acids that you don't need to

> take any supplements, especially if you eat oatmeal

> once or twice a week, he says. It is VERY easy to

> combine blood type and Zone diet theories, and there

> even is an email list for that, Sears-D'Adamo.

>

> The ENTIRE ZONE diet theory developed out of Barry

> Sears' research into the type of fatty acids found

> in those oils! It is fascinating to read about if

> this sort of thing interests you, in The Zone book,

> his first one.

>

> He started out trying to make the best possible

> product source for this type of fatty acid for the

> human body, and ended up creating a diet in which

> the body can make its own!!!

>

> Since he has something like 24 patents on delivery

> systems of drugs (mostly cancer treatments, if I

> recall correctly) to the human body (that is his DAY

> job, or was before he became famous, don't know if

> it still is), the guy has a few brain cells

> operating. He isn't a dummy to say the least. He

> wrote his first Zone book for the scientific

> community and had no intention or expectation of it

> being of even passing interest to the lay community,

> much less becoming a best seller internationally to

> the public at large.

>

> A1+NSa+b-MN

> www.shaklee.net/tiger__medicine

> tenzin@...

>

>

>

> Evening Primrose Oil

>

>

> Hi! I was taking Evening Primrose Oil (1500mg morn &

> night) because I

> had an ovarian cyst. Everytime it started to hurt I

> would start

> taking the EPO but since starting LR4YT I have not

> taken it as it is

> an avoid. Now, my cyst appears to be flaring up.

> My doctors answer

> is to put me on birth control pills which I won't

> do. I was treating

> with EPO and Vit E and dandelion root tea. The

> dandelion root tea

> does not seem to help by itself. Does anyone have

> any other ideas

> that are not avoids for O's? I have felt so good in

> every other way

> since starting LR4YT on April 7th. I have energy

> and I can run

> without knee pain. I have lost some weight (not as

> much as I had

> hoped) but overall I feel great.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

It is neutral for a secretor and avoid for a non secretor. The same for borage

oil and sunflower oil is an avoid for both.

LnL,

Steve - Cheltenham, UK

Re: Evening Primrose Oil

> Cod Liver Oil okay for O's?

>

>

> --- Tiger Medicine <tenzin@...> wrote:

> > The types of fat in the EPO are very important in

> > healing and controlling cysts and various fibroid

> > tissue problems in women. Sinc EPO is an avoid for O

> > (the only good brand is by Efamol, from England),

> > there is a Shaklee product called GLA that provides

> > the same type of healthy fatty acids as the EPO, but

> > is made mostly from borage seed oil with some

> > sunflower seed oil. I realize the sunflower oil is

> > also an avoid for type O, but my type O people who

> > need these products to heal certain conditions do

> > fine on it and there is less of an avoid (the

> > sunflower oil) than you get in the complete evening

> > primrose oil product, because it isn't mixed with

> > anything else. Most other brands tend to be a waste

> > of money because they just don't work as well. I

> > tell people to ALWAYS start with a brand that people

> > who work with these things for RESULTS KNOW is a

> > good one, get your results and THEN start

> > experimenting with other brands if you want. Once

> > you know the results you are trying to achieve, it

> > is easy to see if other brands can do the same thing

> > or not.

[Guest guest]

This is just my opinion but - if you can avoid BCP by taking something

*potentially* less harmful well that would be the road I would take... the

lesser of two evils so to speak

And I think Dr. D's says something about the book is a guideline - there are

exceptions for adding/eliminating foods based on your particular

circumstances. (i.e. one would not eat cherries if allergic even if they are

beneficial to *most* O's.)

[Guest guest]

Black currant seed oil is a neutral for both types of O. Barry Sears talks at

length about it in his first The Zone Diet book and any type O interested in the

types of healthy fatty acids found in these types of oils ought to read what he

has to say on the subject, especially when black currant seed oil is the only

source you can take easily, especially if a non-secretor O. And I understand the

forms on the market today aren't to be trusted, but I can't remember anything

else, I just know not to use them. So if I were an O, I would pick up that book

and see what he says, for he goes into all these details about why we need it,

and how to take it and what form, etc. etc.

Cod Liver Oil is more akin to flax oil and EPA, not the EPO/GLA/Black current

seed oil products.

Sears also wasn't very sold on using flax seed oil, and neither am I for many

reasons even before I read his books. But if you want good reasons, read his

books.

A1+NSa+b-MN

www.shaklee.net/tiger__medicine

tenzin@...

Re: Evening Primrose Oil

It is neutral for a secretor and avoid for a non secretor. The same for borage

oil and sunflower oil is an avoid for both.

[Guest guest]

75% of these oils are made by HEALTH FROM THE SUN.

No reason to use brands that include avoids. Efamol brand EPO was extracted

with solvents (a no no) - that is why you don't see them anymore.

Read LR4YT to find out if the kind of oil you are interested is ok for you

or not.

love

http://www.foodforyourblood.com

[Guest guest]

Shaklee makes its own products in its own labs and has a research center at

Stanford Medical School and is owned by the third largest Japanese

pharmaceutical company, so it isn't in the same league as most food supplement

manufacturers in this country. I understand something like six factories make

90% of the products on the shelves of natural food and health food stores in

this country. Shaklee and New Chapter both are in their own leagues for they

aren't part of that 'racket,' but make all of their OWN products with a great

deal of research and care behind each one.

Our clinic has a patient who used to live near the New Chapter headquarters

facility in Vermont (I think that is the state?) and he used to run a health

food store, so he really knows a lot about them and still makes a point of using

their products since he moved to Tucson. Everything he has told me confirms

anything and everything says on these lists about New Chapter, for what

that is worth.

I know that several years ago before Shaklee came out with GLA, nutritionists

around the country who make a point of knowing what works and what is the BEST,

and who are working with people with serious disease and getting results (which

is all that counts in the end) were saying Efamol EPO from England was the best.

Now those same nutritionists recommend Shaklee GLA and I too have noticed Efamol

is harder to find than ever, so thanks for explaining that .

This industry in its entirety is constantly improving and knowing what is the

best available one day may not be the same at all the next day -- or year -- or

decade. The Efamol was recommended the most in terms of what I know in the

1980s. Shaklee came out with its GLA in the 1990s and so I haven't heard much

about Efamol since then and certainly can't find it, but I always had to special

order it in the 1980s and it was extraordinarily expensive, which explained to

me why no one kept it on the shelf. I still believe it was the best you could

buy in the stores at that time, and there isn't anything better in the natural

foods stores now, from what I understand. Shaklee isn't offered in stores.

I hope New Chapter will come out with its own version especially for type O, as

I work with so many type O, and some non-secretor type O. I can't remember all

the problems with putting black currant seed oil into capsule form that SEars

talks about in his books, but I know there were some. And I don't know how easy

it is to find the actual oil in a good form to use. Hopefully someone will have

some info on that. Many of us prefer capsules to actual oils due to the extra

calories that are always in the oils (blood type theory aside)!

A1+NSa+b-MN

www.shaklee.net/tiger__medicine

tenzin@...

RE: Evening Primrose Oil

75% of these oils are made by HEALTH FROM THE SUN.

No reason to use brands that include avoids. Efamol brand EPO was extracted

with solvents (a no no) - that is why you don't see them anymore.

Read LR4YT to find out if the kind of oil you are interested is ok for you

or not.

love

http://www.foodforyourblood.com

[Guest guest]

>>> Shaklee makes its own products in its own labs<<<<<

No one makes their own. Every single company uses raw materials that comes

from drug companies (synthetic USP) - even New Chapter. What they do with

it afterwards is the key. uses New Chapter products for a reason.

[Guest guest]

I can't speak for other companies, but Shaklee uses natural and synthetic

products and certainly doesn't get all of them from " drug " companies. It IS a

drug company if you want to get technical about it, for it is owned by

Yamanouchi Pharmaceutical company, but many of its products don't have " drug

company " ingredients in them.

Shaklee gets its ginseng from Australia because tests have shown all other

sources around the world available to manufacturers have a contamination problem

in recent years with a certain fungus or herbicide, I forget which. They even

quit offering ginseng for a while because they couldn't find any that wasn't

contaminated.

When independent consumer testing labs tested ginseng products off the shelves

in recent years, many times the bottles and pills had NO ginseng in them. So

other companies obviously knew about the problem but to avoid lawsuits for

selling contaminated products and possibly making people ill, they just left it

out and sold it anyway, to continue making money. Because of its integrity,

Shaklee lost millions by refusing to even offer a ginseng product for several

years!

The powdered milk it uses in some of its products comes from New Zealand for

that is where it finds the purest for meeting its standards.

The alfalfa it uses isn't synethic, but is grown without herbicides and

pesticides, for example.

The list of " non-drug " and " non-synthetic " ingredients goes on and on.

Their EPA product is the only one, besides Barry Sears (The Zone) EPA product,

that is guaranteed to be free of PCBs and other contaminants. Even Dr.

Weil has talked about how most EPA products are so contaminated, we should avoid

them.

A1+NSa+b-MN

www.shaklee.net/tiger__medicine

tenzin@...

RE: Evening Primrose Oil

>>> Shaklee makes its own products in its own labs<<<<<

No one makes their own. Every single company uses raw materials that comes

from drug companies (synthetic USP) - even New Chapter. What they do with

it afterwards is the key. uses New Chapter products for a reason.

[Guest guest]

I think any product that relates to blood type issues is relevant to these lists

as everyone discusses many, many brands and products. I simply know a lot about

Shaklee and take the time and energy to share that in hopes of giving people

more insights about their choices, not necessarily Shaklee choices. For I find

the more information I have about all brands, the more I can make good choices

for myself and the people I help.

And BTW, there are lots of natural ingredients Shaklee uses in its vitamins and

minerals, as well as some synthetic products.

All of this can be checked in the glossary of ingredients on the main websites

(not mine): www.shaklee.com and www.shaklee.net, if anyone finds it that

important to know what is synthetic and what isn't. The glossary is about 35

pages printed out.

A1+NSa+b-MN

www.shaklee.net/tiger__medicine

tenzin@...

RE: Evening Primrose Oil

That is simply not true.

But then again my comment to EPO wasn't to you personally. It was for all

the others reading the posts.

I thought this BB was for ER/LR issues.

Sometimes it feels like I am reading a Shaklee BB.

[Guest guest]

I am talking about vitamins/minerals. Of course there are no synthetic

herbs/oils.

>>>>Their EPA product is the only one, besides Barry Sears (The Zone) EPA

product, that is guaranteed to be free of PCBs and other contaminants.<<<<

That is simply not true.

But then again my comment to EPO wasn't to you personally. It was for all

the others reading the posts.

I thought this BB was for ER/LR issues.

Sometimes it feels like I am reading a Shaklee BB.

Re: Evening Primrose Oil

I can't speak for other companies, but Shaklee uses natural and synthetic

products and certainly doesn't get all of them from " drug " companies. It IS

a drug company if you want to get technical about it, for it is owned by

Yamanouchi Pharmaceutical company, but many of its products don't have " drug

company " ingredients in them.

Shaklee gets its ginseng from Australia because tests have shown all other

sources around the world available to manufacturers have a contamination

problem in recent years with a certain fungus or herbicide, I forget which.

They even quit offering ginseng for a while because they couldn't find any

that wasn't contaminated.

When independent consumer testing labs tested ginseng products off the

shelves in recent years, many times the bottles and pills had NO ginseng in

them. So other companies obviously knew about the problem but to avoid

lawsuits for selling contaminated products and possibly making people ill,

they just left it out and sold it anyway, to continue making money. Because

of its integrity, Shaklee lost millions by refusing to even offer a ginseng

product for several years!

The powdered milk it uses in some of its products comes from New Zealand

for that is where it finds the purest for meeting its standards.

The alfalfa it uses isn't synethic, but is grown without herbicides and

pesticides, for example.

The list of " non-drug " and " non-synthetic " ingredients goes on and on.

Their EPA product is the only one, besides Barry Sears (The Zone) EPA

product, that is guaranteed to be free of PCBs and other contaminants. Even

Dr. Weil has talked about how most EPA products are so contaminated,

we should avoid them.

A1+NSa+b-MN

www.shaklee.net/tiger__medicine

tenzin@...

RE: Evening Primrose Oil

>>> Shaklee makes its own products in its own labs<<<<<

No one makes their own. Every single company uses raw materials that comes

from drug companies (synthetic USP) - even New Chapter. What they do with

it afterwards is the key. uses New Chapter products for a reason.

[Guest guest]

i feel compelled to write,thank you thomas for returning the FOCUS of this group

to eat right & live right topics. no more commercial explanations of your

favorite multi level marketing 's product 'superiority'.also ,if dr.sears could

give us the results that we get from this diet plan,then i'd personally kiss the

hem of his garment. but first i'd ask his blood type.......joyce with california

candor.

Dekany wrote:

> I am talking about vitamins/minerals. Of course there are no synthetic

> herbs/oils.

>

> >>>>Their EPA product is the only one, besides Barry Sears (The Zone) EPA

> product, that is guaranteed to be free of PCBs and other contaminants.<<<<

>

> That is simply not true.

> But then again my comment to EPO wasn't to you personally. It was for all

> the others reading the posts.

> I thought this BB was for ER/LR issues.

> Sometimes it feels like I am reading a Shaklee BB.

>

> Re: Evening Primrose Oil

>

> I can't speak for other companies, but Shaklee uses natural and synthetic

> products and certainly doesn't get all of them from " drug " companies. It IS

> a drug company if you want to get technical about it, for it is owned by

> Yamanouchi Pharmaceutical company, but many of its products don't have " drug

> company " ingredients in them.

>

> Shaklee gets its ginseng from Australia because tests have shown all other

> sources around the world available to manufacturers have a contamination

> problem in recent years with a certain fungus or herbicide, I forget which.

> They even quit offering ginseng for a while because they couldn't find any

> that wasn't contaminated.

>

> When independent consumer testing labs tested ginseng products off the

> shelves in recent years, many times the bottles and pills had NO ginseng in

> them. So other companies obviously knew about the problem but to avoid

> lawsuits for selling contaminated products and possibly making people ill,

> they just left it out and sold it anyway, to continue making money. Because

> of its integrity, Shaklee lost millions by refusing to even offer a ginseng

> product for several years!

>

> The powdered milk it uses in some of its products comes from New Zealand

> for that is where it finds the purest for meeting its standards.

>

> The alfalfa it uses isn't synethic, but is grown without herbicides and

> pesticides, for example.

>

> The list of " non-drug " and " non-synthetic " ingredients goes on and on.

>

> Their EPA product is the only one, besides Barry Sears (The Zone) EPA

> product, that is guaranteed to be free of PCBs and other contaminants. Even

> Dr. Weil has talked about how most EPA products are so contaminated,

> we should avoid them.

>

> A1+NSa+b-MN

> www.shaklee.net/tiger__medicine

> tenzin@...

> RE: Evening Primrose Oil

>

> >>> Shaklee makes its own products in its own labs<<<<<

> No one makes their own. Every single company uses raw materials that comes

> from drug companies (synthetic USP) - even New Chapter. What they do with

> it afterwards is the key. uses New Chapter products for a reason.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Larry

I had an experience with Vioxx that caused me to quit taking it. I developed a

bad case of peripheral edema which I haven't been able to get rid of to date. I

had been listening to a girl(in Ireland) on another group talk for some time

about the wonders of Oil of Evening Primrose. Her doctor had prescribed it for

her. So, I started taking it back in October. I've only been taking 1000mg,

though. I think it has helped. Heaven knows the Vioxx did nothing except cause

trouble. When I mentioned it to my doctor, he gave his approval. I think that

there are a lot of good things out there, but there is so much hype attached

that we're afraid to try them. I think, though, that we should mention to our

doctors before we start in on anything. There are interactions between

pharmaceutical and natural drugs.

Peggy

Larry Steneck wrote:

About 10 years ago I started developing red spots on my arms, back and legs.

Peggy (mhksmom)

Today is the first day of the rest of my life........

---------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Thanks Larry!!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/6/2004 12:18:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,

BeBetsyNow@... writes:

> I switched to cold press to Flax Oil capsules and it works for me. No

> more menopausal symptoms, and flax oil is a beneficial for O's.

Is this all you take for menopause? I have a friend who has awful hot

flashes. Of course, she went to the doctor who prescribed Welbutran among other

things and she had a seizure (I thought the first step was to do no harm?). Is

there anything you can recommend?

[Guest guest]

Betsy, do you recall what your side effects were from taking EPO? I'm just

starting out on this entire thing, and I've been taking EPO for years. I was

planning to continue taking it just because it's supposed to be so good for you,

but I knwo that Dr. D'Adamo recommends O's don't use it.

Annie

Evening Primrose Oil

<< The days I combined with also-prescribed Evening Primrose Oil capsules the

next day event was horrific. I know Dadamo has EPO as an avoid but NP who

also prescribed ER4YT said to give it a try due to benefits to women re:

hormone levels. Sigh. >>

, I was taking this for hormone levels too and had awful side

effects. I switched to cold press to Flax Oil capsules and it works for me.

No

more menopausal symptoms, and flax oil is a beneficial for O's. Ask your NP

about it.

Betsy

[Guest guest]

Annie - it is an avoid, regardless what others feel with it. Use black

currant oil instead.

Wheat suppose to be good for you too - according to some.

ABO Specifics Inc. - http://www.foodforyourblood.com

Re: Evening Primrose Oil

Betsy, do you recall what your side effects were from taking EPO? I'm

just starting out on this entire thing, and I've been taking EPO for

years. I was planning to continue taking it just because it's supposed

to be so good for you, but I knwo that Dr. D'Adamo recommends O's don't

use it.

Annie

Evening Primrose Oil

<< The days I combined with also-prescribed Evening Primrose Oil

capsules the

next day event was horrific. I know Dadamo has EPO as an avoid but NP

who

also prescribed ER4YT said to give it a try due to benefits to women

re:

hormone levels. Sigh. >>

, I was taking this for hormone levels too and had awful side

effects. I switched to cold press to Flax Oil capsules and it works

for me. No

more menopausal symptoms, and flax oil is a beneficial for O's. Ask

your NP

about it.

Betsy

[Guest guest]

Fish oil with a high ratio of DHA might be more helpful.

mjh

In a message dated 12/17/2005 1:18:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,

george-sophie@... writes:

Yikes...I just switched brands of Evening Primrose Oil and this

packaging stated " May be used up to 3 months consecutively "

.... we have been giving it to a for a lot longer than 3 months

consecutively!

Ingred.:

" Evening primrose oil (Oenothera biennis) (seed oil) 500mg

containing 50 mg of Gamma-Linolenic Acid (Evening Primrose Oil)

Cold pressed. It also contains oleic acid ans cis-linoleic acid.

+Vitamin E 15 IU

What's the deal with this oil and the " problem " with prolonged usage???

I will be checking what it has to say in my bible " Prescription for

Nutritional Healing " but in the meantime thought I'd post it for

feedback. Thanks.

Sophie

mjh

" The Basil Book "

http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

[Guest guest]

Bee,

I know you've said that we shouldn't take any supplements, etc. that aren't on

this program, and that many times people who take extra things don't progress as

well in healing. I've been taking evening primrose oil for a while. I don't know

specifically what benefits I'm getting from it, whether it's moods, monthly

cycles, hair (to stop hair loss/dryness as related to thyroid), etc. I'm

assuming you'd say that I should stop taking it? If so, should I just stop cold

turkey or gradually stop? I didn't take it today. I've been taking 1 softgel per

day, which is 1350 mg/135 GLA.

I'll be honest and admit that I develop this idea that " I have to take this or

that supplement or something bad will happen--I will start getting bad symptoms

if I stop taking this supplement. " I guess it boils down to fear of what will

happen if I don't take the supplement. I'm sure that the companies who make

these products like us to be in that type of position--it sells more products. I

wonder how many other people have this type of " dependence " on various products.

Maybe we can sort of become as addicted (even emotionally/psychologically) to

supplements and meds as we are to carbs, sugars, etc!

However, I have been able to stop taking other supplements that I was taking

before starting this program.

Thank you again so much, Bee and others in this group, for helping us shift our

thinking and lives in healthy ways!

Judy

[Guest guest]

>

> Bee,

>

> I know you've said that we shouldn't take any supplements, etc. that aren't on

this program, and that many times people who take extra things don't progress as

well in healing. I've been taking evening primrose oil for a while. I don't know

specifically what benefits I'm getting from it, whether it's moods, monthly

cycles, hair (to stop hair loss/dryness as related to thyroid), etc. I'm

assuming you'd say that I should stop taking it? If so, should I just stop cold

turkey or gradually stop? I didn't take it today. I've been taking 1 softgel per

day, which is 1350 mg/135 GLA.

+++Hi Judy. You can stop taking it cold turkey.

>

> I'll be honest and admit that I develop this idea that " I have to take this or

that supplement or something bad will happen--I will start getting bad symptoms

if I stop taking this supplement. " I guess it boils down to fear of what will

happen if I don't take the supplement. I'm sure that the companies who make

these products like us to be in that type of position--it sells more products. I

wonder how many other people have this type of " dependence " on various products.

Maybe we can sort of become as addicted (even emotionally/psychologically) to

supplements and meds as we are to carbs, sugars, etc!

+++Yes, it is all about marketing and selling products. Many people I've

consulted with have had more symptoms when they stopped taking all of those

extra supplements, herbs, etc., but the reason was because their body was

finally able to start progressing because it wasn't being overwhelmed by

treatments anymore.

+++Also some people go overboard with good treatments too, i.e. getting too many

accupuncture treatments, exercising too much, doing too many colonics, drinking

too much tea, etc., etc. More is not better, and going overboard treating

ourselves causes more stress to the body which interferes with natural healing

processes - what we need most is " proper nutrients " not " more treatments. "

> However, I have been able to stop taking other supplements that I was taking

before starting this program.

+++Good for you Judy!

>

> Thank you again so much, Bee and others in this group, for helping us shift

our thinking and lives in healthy ways!

+++I'm glad you are shifting your thinking. Onward & upward!

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

> Evening Primrose Oil is one of the major oils used for

> Multiple Sclerosis because it heals nerves and sheaths. 

> It is from a flower.  Maybe you are reacting to some

> kind of toxin that the flower produces.

When having a negative reaction to a supplement, note

that it may have nothing to do with the supplements

active ingredient -- it may be one of the fillers,

binders, or the capsule itself. And in the case

of oils, some of these use nasty chemicals to extract

the oil, and you may react to the residue of those

chemicals.

So if reacting bad to something, it sometimes helps

if you simply switch to a different product.

A recent case in point for myself -- I've been recently

experimenting with a liquid Maca extract from " Maca Magic " .

On the bottle it says to take 40 - 80 drops per day, but

I quickly discovered that I was having bad reactions at

ONE drop per day! I had noted that I purchased a

non-alcoholic version of the supplement (using vegetable

glycerin instead of alcohol), so I then bought the version

preserved in alcohol from the same company -- my reaction

to this supplement was indeed different (and it's too

soon for me to report anything good or bad from Maca,

but I do certainly have a strong initial reaction to

it -- time will tell if I decide it's good/bad/indifferent)

Marc