Supplements-costs-and credibility

[Guest guest]

Hi List,

As we have seen the fight over a supplement which has built in a financial

incentive for some of its distributors to promote its use, even when a highly

regarded scientific researcher such as Mark Schauss,PhD who operates a testing

laboratory and is steeped in the alternative medical perspective and that of a

parent-consumer has raised a very serious and legitimate objection to the

formula promoted. When the defenders of an economic interest begin to get

hysterical and abusive in their condemnation of theur critics, it is a good sign

that

there is very little support for their position and claims. I am all for

supplements, but please don't rely on them as your only source of the good

nutrients.And if cost becomes a factor as it is for many of you, buy the right

foods-hopefully organic, first then the supplement.

arnold

[Guest guest]

Arnold,

Thanks for the post. I found out a little bit more about the product in

question. It seems that part of its source for the minerals is none

other than the Rockland Corporation, a group out of Utah that sells

ground up clay (collodial's) that they say comes from an ancient sea

vegetable source. My brother , did a paper for the NIH that tested

products like theirs and found levels of heavy metals up to 100 times

the label claim and that many of the essential trace elements they had

on their label weren't there.

What bothers me the most is when you peel off the outer layers of the

organizations like Life Force, you find people who make a living out of

recycling products that have been removed from the market by the FDA

only to be renamed, slightly reformulated and resold using the same

drivel that got them into trouble in the first place. People like Don

are down line distributors who genuinely think they are doing the right

thing but don't have the knowledge base in which to make an informed

decision about a product.

The saddest thing to me is that children are taking this product.

Adults have the ability to make decisions, right or wrong. Children

don't have that luxury and I sincerely believe that this product can

hurt them in both the short and especially the long term.

In health,

Mark Schauss

P.S. My doctorate is not a Ph.D. Arnold it is a Doctorate in Business.

I am a bit sensitive about this as I have seen too many people out there

lie about their degrees (2 of whom did it to me) so I want to make sure

that my educational background is honestly portrayed.

[ ] Supplements-costs-and credibility

Hi List,

As we have seen the fight over a supplement which has built in a

financial

incentive for some of its distributors to promote its use, even when a

highly

regarded scientific researcher such as Mark Schauss,PhD who operates a

testing

laboratory and is steeped in the alternative medical perspective and

that of a

parent-consumer has raised a very serious and legitimate objection to

the

formula promoted. When the defenders of an economic interest begin to

get

hysterical and abusive in their condemnation of theur critics, it is a

good sign that

there is very little support for their position and claims. I am all for

supplements, but please don't rely on them as your only source of the

good

nutrients.And if cost becomes a factor as it is for many of you, buy the

right

foods-hopefully organic, first then the supplement.

arnold

[Guest guest]

Arnold,

Thanks for the sound and supportive comments.

Mark,

Thank you for the update. I keeping this product out of the bodies of

children is a responsibiltity for us all.

As to your degree I am glad you take the time to point this out to

people. There is a certain esteemed radio talk show host is is quite

fond of giving the her listeners the impression that she is a Ph.D

regarding psycholgy which she is not. It seems rather a deceptive way

to give credence to your own opinions.

Despite your degree being in buisness your knowledge regarding

seizures was I believe instrumental in my son becoming seizure free.

If it had not been for analysis of his Organic Urine Acid Test

findings it would never have been discovered by the doctors that he

had a cystiene defeciency. I believe correcting that problem has

greatly helped to make him successful on the Atkins Program at s

Hopkins - where he continues to remain seizure free since September

(down from 100 + absence seizures everyday.)

M

[Guest guest]

Whew - what an awful lot of typos I made in that last message. I assure you I

was not drinking, my five year old was climbing on me and screaming he wanted to

go out to dinner. ... Just wanted now to clarify the point I was trying to make

- that Mark's analysis of my sons Organic Urine Acids Test was probably one of

the top most helpful things in getting him on the road to being seizure-free.

On a separate note...

asked about Flax Seed Oil - 1 Tablespoon contains Zero Grams of Carbs..so

go for it.

CORRRECTED VERSION

Arnold,

Thanks for the sound and supportive comments.

Mark,

Thank you for the update. I think keeping this product out of the bodies of

children is a responsibility for us all.

As to your degree I am glad you take the time to point this out to

people. There is a certain esteemed radio talk show host who is quite

fond of giving her listeners the impression that she has a Ph.D in psychology,

she does not. It seems rather a deceptive way

to give credence to your own opinions.

Despite your degree being in business, your knowledge regarding

seizures was I believe instrumental in my son becoming seizure free.

If it had not been for your analysis of his Organic Urine Acid Test

findings it would never have been discovered by the doctors that he

had a cystiene deficiency. I believe correcting that problem has

greatly helped to make him successful on the Atkins Program at s

Hopkins - where he continues to remain seizure free since September

(down from 100 + absence seizures everyday.)

M