Re: Mark Schauss help--chlorine toxicity

[Guest guest]

Mike,

Actually the answers are remarkably simple.

Chlorine is well known to increase the likelihood of having a seizure in

susceptible individuals, especially children. My daughter Tasya has

always had this problem but there are things to do to possibly

(important term as id does not help everyone) alleviate the reaction.

First off, 500-1000mg of taurine is needed before going into a pool with

chlorine. Not only is it a neuroinhibitory amino acid but it is a

sulfur containing amino acid. This is important as sulfur is an

important antagonist (for lack of a better term) to chlorine. This is

why, epsom salts, aka magnesium sulfate is helpful after being in a pool

as part of a bath.

Another important addition are bicarbonates, as potassium and sodium

bicarbonate. These are also important in buffering reactions caused by

excessive chlorine and/or chlorides. Epileptics are notoriously low in

bicarbonates as are autistic children which may in part explain why

autistic children have a higher incidence of epilepsy than does the

general population. Now most neurologists would dismiss this as being

unimportant or inconsequential but my research says otherwise.

Increasing the levels of bicarbonates does seem to increase the seizure

threshold which is what we all strive for. A caveat, one needs to make

sure that CO2 levels are low before trying this (simple blood test).

In health,

Mark Schauss

www.carbonbased.com

[ ] Mark Schauss help--chlorine toxicity

Hi Mark,

I am new to the board and a fellow member, Barb Hunte, told me you might

provide some insight. My 11 year old son, who has autism also, had a

seizure Sunday. Actually due to his condition in the aftermath, the Dr

suspects multiple seizures.

It started about 4 months ago Mikey was in the tub and when I went to

get him out he was limp and seemingly unconscious. We called 911 and

the ER Dr. said due to fatique, he may have fallen asleep in the tub.

My wife and I actually suspected a small seizure. We had never seen

anything in his 11 years like it before.

Well Sunday it was really bad. The thing that nags at me is the

conditions prior to the event.

We had just put up our new pool. I know Mikey was drinking the pool

water and although I did not see him go near the chlorine float, it is

possible he may have ever lifted from the water and ingested some. That

afternoon after coming into the home Mikey went up to his to take a nap.

When I went upstairs to check on him, that's when I got one of the worst

scares of my life. My wife took him to the ER. All blood tests came

back normal and the CAT scan they did was normal. TOtday he goes in for

an EEG. To get back to the thing that is nagging me, water & chemicals.

My memory is fague, but I sear my wife had cleaned out the bathtub with

a bleach related product or even Lysol just prior to my son's first

episode. Now the full blown seizure after being in the pool. We have

only seen this type of thig two times and both times Mikey was in or had

been in the water; and most likely drinking it too.

I know this is long winded and you are busy, but could this be a factor?

I am crazy looking for a simple answer to a complicated problem? I

can't remember exactly, but isn't there an " old saying " that says, the

answer to a situation is usually the simplest one? Any suggestions,

advice etc. would be a Godsend. Thanks again in advance, Mike

[Guest guest]

Mike,

Can I add to what Mark has said that there is likely chlorine in your regular

water supply as well. Most Doctors would tell you it is not enough to cause any

problem for people however there are some people who are so sensitive to

chlorine that being the room when someone else is showering with chlorinated

water is enough to cause them to have a reaction.

Additionally the information about your wife having cleaned the tub could hold a

key. If she used any ammonia type cleaner (such as Windex) it could react with

the chlorine in the drinking water to create a chemical reaction that could have

caused the problem you observed. I believe a reverse osmosis unit for your home

water supply would be helpful in removing the traces of chlorine in the water

supply.

Hope this is helpful.

[Guest guest]

Leaving water out to allow for outgasing will also disipate chlorine.

This is why they recommend you let water stand for a few hours before

putting it in a fish tank. Isn't it a shame that this type of info is

available and well known to protect fish but not humans?

Re: [ ] Mark Schauss help--chlorine toxicity

Mike,

Can I add to what Mark has said that there is likely chlorine in your

regular water supply as well. Most Doctors would tell you it is not

enough to cause any problem for people however there are some people who

are so sensitive to chlorine that being the room when someone else is

showering with chlorinated water is enough to cause them to have a

reaction.

Additionally the information about your wife having cleaned the tub

could hold a key. If she used any ammonia type cleaner (such as Windex)

it could react with the chlorine in the drinking water to create a

chemical reaction that could have caused the problem you observed. I

believe a reverse osmosis unit for your home water supply would be

helpful in removing the traces of chlorine in the water supply.

Hope this is helpful.

[Guest guest]

Mark,

I have a question, I usually give tap water that has been

filtered by one of those Purr filters, also I use some of that water and

put it in the refrigerator and give it to her whenever she needs it, my

question is, is this good enough or should I do like Mike said and get

one of those reverse osmosis filters. I am also concerned about

chlorinated water.

When was little, we had a pool and I eventually stopped her from

going in the pool because she would just drink so much of the pool water

until her stomach was so blown up or I'd notice that she was doing that,

but she didn't have seizures then.

In your previous post you mentioned bicarbonates and you mentioned sodium

and potassium, are you saying that those two will increase the seizure

threshold for anyone with seizures or just if you have a problem with

seizures due to chlorinated water?

As always, thanks Mark for your help!

Grace

On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 14:19:19 -0700 " Mark Schauss "

<schauss@...> writes:

> Leaving water out to allow for outgasing will also disipate

> chlorine.

> This is why they recommend you let water stand for a few hours

> before

> putting it in a fish tank. Isn't it a shame that this type of info

> is

> available and well known to protect fish but not humans?

>

>

>

> Re: [ ] Mark Schauss help--chlorine toxicity

>

>

> Mike,

> Can I add to what Mark has said that there is likely chlorine in

> your

> regular water supply as well. Most Doctors would tell you it is not

> enough to cause any problem for people however there are some people

> who

> are so sensitive to chlorine that being the room when someone else

> is

> showering with chlorinated water is enough to cause them to have a

> reaction.

>

> Additionally the information about your wife having cleaned the tub

> could hold a key. If she used any ammonia type cleaner (such as

> Windex)

> it could react with the chlorine in the drinking water to create a

> chemical reaction that could have caused the problem you observed.

> I

> believe a reverse osmosis unit for your home water supply would be

> helpful in removing the traces of chlorine in the water supply.

>

> Hope this is helpful.

>

>

>

>