Re: Sorta OT

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Hi Kate,

I also want to give you encouragement for quitting smoking and to let you know that you can tell us about your health issues here all you want. I know my friends and husband absolutely DO NOT UNDERSTAND anything about this disease, because I sure didn't before I had it. My sister had it 25 years ago, and I don't think I was at all supportive until now!

As far as quitting smoking: YOU CAN DO IT! I quit when I was 26, cold turkey, after smoking for 13 years (yes, such a fool I was at age 13!) I didn't have any problems, because I was in the beginnings of pregnancy and wanted the baby to be healthy almost 30 years ago. I am so glad I quit. However, the story I really want to share is about my older sister, not the one with Graves'. She smoked for over 40 years, and was having a terrible time giving up cigarettes, even with heart problems. Well, what cured her was that she had such a severe heart attack that she was declared " dead " until a sweet nurse kept working on her to get a pulse back again. She recovered, but had two stints put in around her heart, and has now just had 3 more stints put in. But what the doctor said was that if she had NOT smoked, this wouldn't have happened. She had a tough time giving it up, particularly since her husband still smokes, but she had hypnosis and the patch and did give it up. I think the scare was more important than anything, though. Good luck to you and I hope you find an alternative. Exercise and bubblebaths? Something special for yourself?

Arlene

Sorta OTHi Peta - Thanks for the encouragement. Don't think I haven't had the odd one since quitting. About six months ago I went back to smoking for a whole week and had to do the withdrawal thing again. I live in such a 'small' town that my doctor saw me smoke somewhere and refused to treat my heart anymore! It is still a constant battle. I have had 2 doctors in the past on 2 separate occasions tell me that some people just shouldn't quit and I might be one of them. A third one recently started to and I just tuned it out. I can't smoke no matter how much I want it. I thought the craving would go away but it hasn't so far. I still 'need' one every so often. I used them as a reward and I haven't found anything else suitable as a reward for me. Oh well! Thanks for the encouraging words. Today I am really finding it hard not to go out and get a pack and smoke them all! I just finished making a second batch of fudge. The first one was too hard to beat and stuck to the pot terribly. This one is runny - I guess it wasn't meant to be. I love that stuff! I was making it for a baby shower for my daughter. I have been really vulnerable emotionally lately and am having a really hard time with my daughters. One is pregnant for the first time. It is so hard to just not say anything and walk away sometimes. I just hope her baby is okay. She has a high risk pregnancy and her doctor is ignoring her. She has been hospitalized twice in the past month. I don't even know where my other daughter is at the moment. She is somewhere in Long Island or New York. I haven't heard from her in a couple of months. I'm thinking I need to get my thyroid levels checked. Would love to give up the stress but how is another question. Think the FRT also affect my TSH etc. but would like a good reference for that. Thank God we can at least vent here and not hurt the ones we love. I know my husband is tired of hearing anything to do with my chronic diseases.... Kate PParkegail@... wrote: Kate, all I can say is..well done for giving up smoking!!! That is one hell of a hard thing to do! Hang on in there !! ) Love, Peta xx

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Hi Arlene

Your message didn't come through completely. I can't get the

rest of it and suspect it might be the point of your note! Could

you please send it again - perhaps to my personal email address - fraserk@...

Thanks,

Kate

Arlene Houghton wrote:

Hi Kate,

I also want to give you encouragement for quitting smoking and to let

you know that you can tell us about your health issues here all you

want. I know my friends and husband absolutely DO NOT UNDERSTAND

anything about this disease, because I sure didn't before I had it.

My sister had it 25 years ago, and I don't think I was at all supportive

until now!

As far as quitting smoking: YOU CAN DO IT! I quit when I

was 26, cold turkey, after smoking for 13 years (yes, such a fool I was

at age 13!) I didn't have any problems, because I was in the beginnings

of pregnancy and wanted the baby to be healthy almost 30 years ago.

I am so glad I quit. However, the story I really want to share

is about my older sister, not the one with Graves'. She smoked for

over 40 years, and was having a terrible time giving up cigarettes, even

with heart problems. Well, what cured her was that she had such a

severe heart attack that she was declared "dead" until

[Guest guest]

Yes, but just wait till he gets something wrong with HIM!!! Ha!

I started smoking in my 20's when I was acting in London, and every single part seemed to call for a smoker. I set fire to my hair on stage one night, so decided to learn to do it properly! I was living with a smoker at the time (fellow actor) and that was it - 20 Marlboro a day!! I gave up shortly after when I was pregnant with my eldest - no problem. YEARS later, I played Rita (Educating Rita) who lights up all the time - so it started again. I knew that for me, smoking is suicide, so I swore on my and my childrens' lives (wrote it all down, made a ritual of it) that I wouldn't smoke again - and that was it - I've NEVER touched one since!! Nicotine is apparently 10 times more addictive than Heroin. It took those desperate lengths to get me off it. I'm one of those so-called 'addictive' personalities. )

BTW I've given up alcohol since my Thyroid - I seem to feel instinctively that I should - is that right? Christmas is coming up...wot? No chocolate and no alcohol???? OMYGOD!!

Do your daughters show any sign of thyroid problems (2 of my kids are girls - 23 and 19, and I'm kinda worried)

Lots of questions there!

Love,

Peta x

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PParkegail@... wrote:

Yes, but

just wait till he gets something wrong with HIM!!! Ha!

He had open heart surgery as a child when they were just experimenting

with it. I don't think much like that bothers him. When he

gets sick he just wants to be left alone.

I started smoking in my 20's

when I was acting in London, and every single part seemed to call for a

smoker. I set fire to my hair on stage one night, so decided

to learn to do it properly! I was living with a smoker at the time (fellow

actor) and that was it - 20 Marlboro a day!! I gave up shortly after when

I was pregnant with my eldest - no problem. YEARS later, I played

Rita (Educating Rita) who lights up all the time - so it started again.

I knew that for me, smoking is suicide, so I swore on my and my childrens'

lives (wrote it all down, made a ritual of it) that I wouldn't smoke again

- and that was it - I've NEVER touched one since!! Nicotine is apparently

10 times more addictive than Heroin. It took those desperate lengths to

get me off it. I'm one of those so-called 'addictive' personalities.

)

I had my first smoke at 4 - I can still remember how sick I was!

But that was just experimenting. I started smoking as a teenager

and was really hooked. I know I am one of those 'aps's' too.

It is hard to understand people who aren't sometimes.

Anyway, made it through my day yesterday.

BTW I've given up alcohol

since my Thyroid - I seem to feel instinctively that I should - is that

right? Christmas is coming up...wot? No chocolate and no alcohol????

OMYGOD!!

My first husband turned out to be an alcoholic so I got pretty turned off

alcohol. Now with all the meds I take, there is no way at all.

At Christmas I usually drink several portions of Tia while the tree

decorates itself (ha ha). It may be worth it this year. If

I decide so, I will just stop meds for a day. Not smart maybe, but

we're all human. I had given up chocolate completely, but have relapsed

and have small amts on occasion now. We're only human and we need

to have some pleasure in life!

Do your daughters show any

sign of thyroid problems (2 of my kids are girls - 23 and 19, and I'm kinda

worried)

My eldest daughter had a tumor on her pituitary gland. This was found

while she was in university. She had surgery and appears to be okay

now. Except now she weighs lots. She has to have her thyroid

checked annally.

My other daughter is not officially having any problems yet but they

are testing her almost monthly for TSH. I have pushed her hard to

get checked. Last summer she had so many symptoms of being hypo.

I gave her a flyer about thyroid disease and she read it and said 'that's

me'.

My son has shown no signs/symptoms yet. I haven't pushed him

yet. He's aware of the possibility and of the symptoms. Being

male, he'll probably miss it altogether.

Lots of questions there!

Love,

Peta x

Do you work, Peta?

Have a good Turkey day tomorrow,

Kate

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Hi Peta,

Seems like so many of us on this forum are artists of one kind or another. Educating Rita is one of my favorite films. I related to this, big time. (I am a potter and photographer, btw)

Good for you for quitting smoking. Again, I can relate to you being an addictive personality. I have this problem too. Sugar and coffee became my drugs of choice, rather than alcohol (which I still like, in my occasional glass of wine!) and chocolate (trying to stay away from this since I found out that it was really bad for us Graves' folks). And yes, your instincts were correct about alcohol. Another No-No for us, but I do have a glass of wine from time-to-time. I know that coffee is another no-no, but I just cannot give up my one cup a day.

I have no daughters in my own family, but since there are some men here on this forum, Graves' does not entirely leave the men out. I have told my two sons about this disease, and other autoimmunes, since they are so strongly in my family.

Happy Holidays all!

Re: Sorta OTYes, but just wait till he gets something wrong with HIM!!! Ha! I started smoking in my 20's when I was acting in London, and every single part seemed to call for a smoker. I set fire to my hair on stage one night, so decided to learn to do it properly! I was living with a smoker at the time (fellow actor) and that was it - 20 Marlboro a day!! I gave up shortly after when I was pregnant with my eldest - no problem. YEARS later, I played Rita (Educating Rita) who lights up all the time - so it started again. I knew that for me, smoking is suicide, so I swore on my and my childrens' lives (wrote it all down, made a ritual of it) that I wouldn't smoke again - and that was it - I've NEVER touched one since!! Nicotine is apparently 10 times more addictive than Heroin. It took those desperate lengths to get me off it. I'm one of those so-called 'addictive' personalities. ) BTW I've given up alcohol since my Thyroid - I seem to feel instinctively that I should - is that right? Christmas is coming up...wot? No chocolate and no alcohol???? OMYGOD!! Do your daughters show any sign of thyroid problems (2 of my kids are girls - 23 and 19, and I'm kinda worried) Lots of questions there! Love, Peta x

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I guess I'm more comfortable referring to myself as a ' dependent personality!'

LOL! I haven't been able to give up the smokes yet, but the chocolate

thing (which I NEVER thought I'd let go of) has just sort of naturally

ebbed away for me these past two years. I might have a bite now and

then, but I never think of it on my own anymore. It's usually offered

to me by someone else. And then I'm happy with just a little rather

than 'keep your distance; this is mine!' I've never had a problem

with alcohol (my father and older brother are undiagnosed alcoholics and

my younger older brother realizes he has a problem). I'll have a

wine cooler now and then or a Buttery Nipple, but that's about it.

And I miss the creative things that I used to do. I'm just too

darned busy these days to fit anything fun like that in for myself.

I've never been a potter nor a photographer, but give me a sewing machine

that works and look out!

Donna

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Arlene Houghton wrote:

Hi Peta,Seems

like so many of us on this forum are artists of one kind or another.

Educating Rita is one of my favorite films. I related to this, big

time. (I am a potter and photographer, btw)Good

for you for quitting smoking. Again, I can relate to you being an

addictive personality. I have this problem too. Sugar and coffee

became my drugs of choice, rather than alcohol (which I still like, in

my occasional glass of wine!) and chocolate (trying to stay away from this

since I found out that it was really bad for us Graves' folks). And

yes, your instincts were correct about alcohol. Another No-No for

us, but I do have a glass of wine from time-to-time. I know that

coffee is another no-no, but I just cannot give up my one cup a day. I

have no daughters in my own family, but since there are some men

here on this forum, Graves' does not entirely leave the men out.

I have told my two sons about this disease, and other autoimmunes, since

they are so strongly in my family. Happy Holidays

all! Re:

Sorta OT

Yes, but just wait till

he gets something wrong with HIM!!! Ha!

I started smoking in my 20's

when I was acting in London, and every single part seemed to call for a

smoker. I set fire to my hair on stage one night, so decided

to learn to do it properly! I was living with a smoker at the time (fellow

actor) and that was it - 20 Marlboro a day!! I gave up shortly after when

I was pregnant with my eldest - no problem. YEARS later, I played

Rita (Educating Rita) who lights up all the time - so it started again.

I knew that for me, smoking is suicide, so I swore on my and my childrens'

lives (wrote it all down, made a ritual of it) that I wouldn't smoke again

- and that was it - I've NEVER touched one since!! Nicotine is apparently

10 times more addictive than Heroin. It took those desperate lengths to

get me off it. I'm one of those so-called 'addictive' personalities.

)

BTW I've given up alcohol

since my Thyroid - I seem to feel instinctively that I should - is that

right? Christmas is coming up...wot? No chocolate and no alcohol????

OMYGOD!!

Do your daughters show any

sign of thyroid problems (2 of my kids are girls - 23 and 19, and I'm kinda

worried)

Lots of questions there!

Love,

Peta x

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Hi Everyone!

All this talk about smoking is making me crave them! I started posting to this list back in August I think it was, perhaps July, after I was diagnosed with hyperthyroidism. I've always been a closet smoker so to speak and I even posted about it here as well. I didn't start until I was 18 after living with a chainsmoker mother. I said I never would smoke but when I was out on my own, it happened. But the thing is for me, a pack of 25 smokes has always lasted me a week and if I happen to run out earlier than a week, oh well. I just don't buy them again until the week is up. I've made packs last two weeks or more too. I can go for weeks at a time without smoking and then just decide to buy some out of the blue. I hate this! I am happy to say I have not bought a pack of smokes in almost two months! It's been over a month since I've had a cigarette. Each time I was pregnant I did manage to stop during the pregnancy, but have the odd one. I read that the physical cravings go away after a week and after than the rest is all in your head. I think for me, the head is worse! With winter approaching I hope I've quit for good because I don't smoke in my house and I don't like going out when it's too cold just to light up! Luckily I don't find myself in situations too often when there are people around smoking, but when I am with a friend who is, boy is that hard!!! I just wanted to say 'hats off' to those of you who have successfully quit! You can be an inspiration to those of us who should quit with all the medical problems in our lives!

In August at my first visit with my endo, I told him I smoked about five cigarettes a day on average. I am sure that must have sounded silly to him. I told him that when I would come back in three months to see him I'll likely will have quit because it will be winter and I tend to not smoke in the winter. Well I saw him last week and he didn't even ask. He's not good for much as I've stated in previous posts!

You know, after writing this, I'm not craving one as much!

Jen in Canada

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Hello Kate

If you're having problems with not smoking try the newsgroup AS3 - alt.support.stop-smoking - they're a great bunch in there and I stopped smoking two years ago with their help and support - and the use of patches.

Even if you're already stopped but just need moral support you can go along there and rant and share experiences etc etc.

Re: Sorta OT

Hi Kate,

I also want to give you encouragement for quitting smoking and to let you know that you can tell us about your health issues here all you want. I know my friends and husband absolutely DO NOT UNDERSTAND anything about this disease, because I sure didn't before I had it. My sister had it 25 years ago, and I don't think I was at all supportive until now!

As far as quitting smoking: YOU CAN DO IT! I quit when I was 26, cold turkey, after smoking for 13 years (yes, such a fool I was at age 13!) I didn't have any problems, because I was in the beginnings of pregnancy and wanted the baby to be healthy almost 30 years ago. I am so glad I quit. However, the story I really want to share is about my older sister, not the one with Graves'. She smoked for over 40 years, and was having a terrible time giving up cigarettes, even with heart problems. Well, what cured her was that she had such a severe heart attack that she was declared "dead" until a sweet nurse kept working on her to get a pulse back again. She recovered, but had two stints put in around her heart, and has now just had 3 more stints put in. But what the doctor said was that if she had NOT smoked, this wouldn't have happened. She had a tough time giving it up, particularly since her husband still smokes, but she had hypnosis and the patch and did give it up. I think the scare was more important than anything, though. Good luck to you and I hope you find an alternative. Exercise and bubblebaths? Something special for yourself?

Arlene

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Hi

Thank you very much for the link for stopping smoking. I'm just

catching up now with my mail. Tis the season to be busy in my home.

I'm almost done my shopping but we are redoing the front hall floor - someone

had laid down linoleum over oak hardwood and stuck it down with a tar like

glue. What a mess to remove. When I get it done it will be

great. My goal is to have it ready to sand by this weekend but my

blisters may stop me today. Problem is, my husband wants to

sell the house. And I wouldn't mind. So lots of stuff like

that being done. Fun to finish jobs. We tend to start all sorts

of projects and not finish them!

I have been keeping busy or sleeping so the craving is down a bit at

the moment. Am also trying to finish a quilt by Christmas - keeps

my hands busy in the evening. My skin is really dry and thin right

now so I am adding the odd drop of red to the material :-).

But if I don't keep my hands busy I have a worse time desiring/needing

a smoke.

Thanks again to all for kind words on a filthy subject!

Kate

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Thanks. I think its funny. Screaming also is like it won't shut up. I remember

as a kid I use to call myself a tin [wo]man; I read someone use that last week I

couldn't stop grinning all night. But everytime I get up and I feel/hear

something pop I say to myself (aloud ususally), " My own island in the

caribbean. " I guess I think that going just a bit further southern than I

already am I'll be in a place that I won't have to worry about the rice krispies

in my knees and others. We've got our own language. Oh, and I don't eat rice

krispies anymore. ; )

: )

I'm gonna smile and not get worried.

I try but it shows. - 'Pain'

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I do not know about proper English useage for personification, but I will

give a shot at the common usage. Besides, I think the answer lies more in

ettiquette than mechanics. Now, perfect grammar is great, and necessary for

professional commentary and business communications, but not practical for

casual use because it kills creativity.

Many times when communicating to entertain an audience it is more

important to use common grammar than proper grammar. So I would say that

although a body part is part of the body, it is not the body and should not

define a person. Also, years ago comedians frequently personified body parts.

(ie. " My dogs are barking, " was used on Bewitched with a visual of a person's

feet barking at them.) Therefore I would think it is not only appropriate to

personify body parts, if it is accomplished in a humorous manner, it would be a

much more acceptable way to communicate you have pain than simply stating

something hurts.

BTW- you said you found an Old English notebook. How long ago did you

attend high school anyway? Did you know Shakespeare?

Keeping you in my prayers,

Crossland wrote:

I'm kinda asking but I'd like to see what everyone else thinks

also. I've always used different ways of telling someone something hurts and as

of late I've been saying [whatever] is screaming at me. I came across an old

English notebook from high school and it occured to me; if a body part is apart

of you, as a person, can it actually be considered personification?

: )

I'm gonna smile and not get worried.

I try but it shows. - 'Pain'

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I do not know about proper English useage for personification, but I will

give a shot at the common usage. Besides, I think the answer lies more in

ettiquette than mechanics. Now, perfect grammar is great, and necessary for

professional commentary and business communications, but not practical for

casual use because it kills creativity.

Many times when communicating to entertain an audience it is more

important to use common grammar than proper grammar. So I would say that

although a body part is part of the body, it is not the body and should not

define a person. Also, years ago comedians frequently personified body parts.

(ie. " My dogs are barking, " was used on Bewitched with a visual of a person's

feet barking at them.) Therefore I would think it is not only appropriate to

personify body parts, if it is accomplished in a humorous manner, it would be a

much more acceptable way to communicate you have pain than simply stating

something hurts.

BTW- you said you found an Old English notebook. How long ago did you

attend high school anyway? Did you know Shakespeare?

Keeping you in my prayers,

Crossland wrote:

I'm kinda asking but I'd like to see what everyone else thinks

also. I've always used different ways of telling someone something hurts and as

of late I've been saying [whatever] is screaming at me. I came across an old

English notebook from high school and it occured to me; if a body part is apart

of you, as a person, can it actually be considered personification?

: )

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I try but it shows. - 'Pain'

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, I've used that exact expression since I became sick, so you are not

crazy....or maybe we both are! I think it is perfectly logical to describe

pain or pains as " screaming " . It certainly is far more descriptive than

trying to pick a number between 1-10. The numerical scale is the one that

doesn't seem logical to me as pain doesn't " shout " " 7 " or " 10 " or " 3 " ! I do

find that pain can be slight or dull, pulsating or strong, wicked or

intolerable & " Screaming " or " Do something to reduce this pain before I get

out of this bed and slam your damn head through the ******* wall!!! "

That's the scale I prefer to use, and it certainly gets their attention

when the pain is so horrible that you can't really control what you're

thinking and words just come out of your mouth with no regard to the person

you are SCREAMING them at!

Hope this answers your question. Kirk.

>

> I'm kinda asking but I'd like to see what everyone else thinks

> also. I've always used different ways of telling someone something hurts and

> as of late I've been saying [whatever] is screaming at me. I came across an

> old English notebook from high school and it occured to me; if a body part

> is apart of you, as a person, can it actually be considered personification?

> I asked my Mom and Dad that and they looked at me like I was crazy. And

> , my best friend of almost eight years, doesn't remember English

> class so I thought I'd run it by you guys and see what the response was. So

> let me know if I'm clever or if I've lost my hamster and should go looking

> for the little bugger.

>

> : )

>

> I'm gonna smile and not get worried.

> I try but it shows. - 'Pain'

>

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, I've used that exact expression since I became sick, so you are not

crazy....or maybe we both are! I think it is perfectly logical to describe

pain or pains as " screaming " . It certainly is far more descriptive than

trying to pick a number between 1-10. The numerical scale is the one that

doesn't seem logical to me as pain doesn't " shout " " 7 " or " 10 " or " 3 " ! I do

find that pain can be slight or dull, pulsating or strong, wicked or

intolerable & " Screaming " or " Do something to reduce this pain before I get

out of this bed and slam your damn head through the ******* wall!!! "

That's the scale I prefer to use, and it certainly gets their attention

when the pain is so horrible that you can't really control what you're

thinking and words just come out of your mouth with no regard to the person

you are SCREAMING them at!

Hope this answers your question. Kirk.

>

> I'm kinda asking but I'd like to see what everyone else thinks

> also. I've always used different ways of telling someone something hurts and

> as of late I've been saying [whatever] is screaming at me. I came across an

> old English notebook from high school and it occured to me; if a body part

> is apart of you, as a person, can it actually be considered personification?

> I asked my Mom and Dad that and they looked at me like I was crazy. And

> , my best friend of almost eight years, doesn't remember English

> class so I thought I'd run it by you guys and see what the response was. So

> let me know if I'm clever or if I've lost my hamster and should go looking

> for the little bugger.

>

> : )

>

> I'm gonna smile and not get worried.

> I try but it shows. - 'Pain'

>

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Yeah, I remember the nurses kept askin' me between 1 and 10 how bad is it and

that was exactly what I said, " Uh, I dunno, I'm not sure my joints have learned

how to count yet. " They didn't really like that response. Everyone's pain is

different and numbers just say what its like for you but everyone can tolerate

different than another. After this long I think me saying 3 now is like me

saying 8 when I was six so it's just saying, " Hi, I went to med school to ask

you a stupid question. "

Thanks for the responses.

: )

I'm gonna smile and not get worried.

I try but it shows. - 'Pain'

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From: Kirk Bonanny kbonanny@...

, I've used that exact expression since I became sick, so you are not

crazy....or maybe we both are! I think it is perfectly logical to describe

pain or pains as " screaming " . It certainly is far more descriptive than

trying to pick a number between 1-10. The numerical scale is the one that

doesn't seem logical to me as pain doesn't " shout " " 7 " or " 10 " or " 3 " ! I do

find that pain can be slight or dull, pulsating or strong, wicked or

intolerable & " Screaming " or " Do something to reduce this pain before I get

out of this bed and slam your damn head through the ******* wall!!! "

That's the scale I prefer to use, and it certainly gets their attention

when the pain is so horrible that you can't really control what you're

thinking and words just come out of your mouth with no regard to the person

you are SCREAMING them at!

Hope this answers your question. Kirk.

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>

> I'm kinda asking but I'd like to see what everyone else thinks

> also. I've always used different ways of telling someone something hurts and

> as of late I've been saying [whatever] is screaming at me. I came across an

> old English notebook from high school and it occured to me; if a body part

> is apart of you, as a person, can it actually be considered personification?

> I asked my Mom and Dad that and they looked at me like I was crazy. And

> , my best friend of almost eight years, doesn't remember English

> class so I thought I'd run it by you guys and see what the response was. So

> let me know if I'm clever or if I've lost my hamster and should go looking

> for the little bugger.

>

> : )

>

> I'm gonna smile and not get worried.

> I try but it shows. - 'Pain'

>

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>

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Yeah, I remember the nurses kept askin' me between 1 and 10 how bad is it and

that was exactly what I said, " Uh, I dunno, I'm not sure my joints have learned

how to count yet. " They didn't really like that response. Everyone's pain is

different and numbers just say what its like for you but everyone can tolerate

different than another. After this long I think me saying 3 now is like me

saying 8 when I was six so it's just saying, " Hi, I went to med school to ask

you a stupid question. "

Thanks for the responses.

: )

I'm gonna smile and not get worried.

I try but it shows. - 'Pain'

----- Original Message ----

From: Kirk Bonanny kbonanny@...

, I've used that exact expression since I became sick, so you are not

crazy....or maybe we both are! I think it is perfectly logical to describe

pain or pains as " screaming " . It certainly is far more descriptive than

trying to pick a number between 1-10. The numerical scale is the one that

doesn't seem logical to me as pain doesn't " shout " " 7 " or " 10 " or " 3 " ! I do

find that pain can be slight or dull, pulsating or strong, wicked or

intolerable & " Screaming " or " Do something to reduce this pain before I get

out of this bed and slam your damn head through the ******* wall!!! "

That's the scale I prefer to use, and it certainly gets their attention

when the pain is so horrible that you can't really control what you're

thinking and words just come out of your mouth with no regard to the person

you are SCREAMING them at!

Hope this answers your question. Kirk.

On 14/04/2008, Crossland <disabledskater2@ yahoo.com> wrote:

>

> I'm kinda asking but I'd like to see what everyone else thinks

> also. I've always used different ways of telling someone something hurts and

> as of late I've been saying [whatever] is screaming at me. I came across an

> old English notebook from high school and it occured to me; if a body part

> is apart of you, as a person, can it actually be considered personification?

> I asked my Mom and Dad that and they looked at me like I was crazy. And

> , my best friend of almost eight years, doesn't remember English

> class so I thought I'd run it by you guys and see what the response was. So

> let me know if I'm clever or if I've lost my hamster and should go looking

> for the little bugger.

>

> : )

>

> I'm gonna smile and not get worried.

> I try but it shows. - 'Pain'

>

> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> Be a better friend, newshound, and

> know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

> http://mobile. yahoo.com/ ;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR 8HDtDypao8Wcj9tA cJ

>

>

[Guest guest]

I know I have an incredible tolerance for pain through countless past

experiences ranging from being smashed in the head with an aluminum baseball

bat (knocked me down, but I got right back up and beat the **** out of my

brother) to refusing Novocaine when I needed dental work. The only thing in

my life that I couldn't tolerate prior to meeting Stills was when I " ate " a

creek bed @ 60mph on my motorcycle. I wound up with a compound fracture to

my right tibia & fibula. I don't remember it hurting until I saw my toes on

top of my knee...but that had to be due to shock.

I've also been hit with a thrown brick (right on the top bridge of my

nose.....), hit with a hammer (my brother again!), woken up to a 2x4 to the

head(brother) and countless other incidents. I do know that I have an

incredibly hard head!

Catch you later, Kirk.

>

> Yeah, I remember the nurses kept askin' me between 1 and 10 how bad is

> it and that was exactly what I said, " Uh, I dunno, I'm not sure my joints

> have learned how to count yet. " They didn't really like that response.

> Everyone's pain is different and numbers just say what its like for you but

> everyone can tolerate different than another. After this long I think me

> saying 3 now is like me saying 8 when I was six so it's just saying, " Hi, I

> went to med school to ask you a stupid question. "

> Thanks for the responses.

>

> : )

>

> I'm gonna smile and not get worried.

> I try but it shows. - 'Pain'

>

> ----- Original Message ----

> From: Kirk Bonanny kbonanny@... <kbonanny%40gmail.com>

>

> , I've used that exact expression since I became sick, so you are not

> crazy....or maybe we both are! I think it is perfectly logical to describe

> pain or pains as " screaming " . It certainly is far more descriptive than

> trying to pick a number between 1-10. The numerical scale is the one that

> doesn't seem logical to me as pain doesn't " shout " " 7 " or " 10 " or " 3 " ! I

> do

> find that pain can be slight or dull, pulsating or strong, wicked or

> intolerable & " Screaming " or " Do something to reduce this pain before I

> get

> out of this bed and slam your damn head through the ******* wall!!! "

> That's the scale I prefer to use, and it certainly gets their attention

> when the pain is so horrible that you can't really control what you're

> thinking and words just come out of your mouth with no regard to the

> person

> you are SCREAMING them at!

> Hope this answers your question. Kirk.

>

> On 14/04/2008, Crossland <disabledskater2@ yahoo.com> wrote:

> >

> > I'm kinda asking but I'd like to see what everyone else thinks

> > also. I've always used different ways of telling someone something hurts

> and

> > as of late I've been saying [whatever] is screaming at me. I came across

> an

> > old English notebook from high school and it occured to me; if a body

> part

> > is apart of you, as a person, can it actually be considered

> personification?

> > I asked my Mom and Dad that and they looked at me like I was crazy. And

> > , my best friend of almost eight years, doesn't remember

> English

> > class so I thought I'd run it by you guys and see what the response was.

> So

> > let me know if I'm clever or if I've lost my hamster and should go

> looking

> > for the little bugger.

> >

> > : )

> >

> > I'm gonna smile and not get worried.

> > I try but it shows. - 'Pain'

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> > Be a better friend, newshound, and

> > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

> > http://mobile. yahoo.com/ ;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR 8HDtDypao8Wcj9tA cJ

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I know I have an incredible tolerance for pain through countless past

experiences ranging from being smashed in the head with an aluminum baseball

bat (knocked me down, but I got right back up and beat the **** out of my

brother) to refusing Novocaine when I needed dental work. The only thing in

my life that I couldn't tolerate prior to meeting Stills was when I " ate " a

creek bed @ 60mph on my motorcycle. I wound up with a compound fracture to

my right tibia & fibula. I don't remember it hurting until I saw my toes on

top of my knee...but that had to be due to shock.

I've also been hit with a thrown brick (right on the top bridge of my

nose.....), hit with a hammer (my brother again!), woken up to a 2x4 to the

head(brother) and countless other incidents. I do know that I have an

incredibly hard head!

Catch you later, Kirk.

>

> Yeah, I remember the nurses kept askin' me between 1 and 10 how bad is

> it and that was exactly what I said, " Uh, I dunno, I'm not sure my joints

> have learned how to count yet. " They didn't really like that response.

> Everyone's pain is different and numbers just say what its like for you but

> everyone can tolerate different than another. After this long I think me

> saying 3 now is like me saying 8 when I was six so it's just saying, " Hi, I

> went to med school to ask you a stupid question. "

> Thanks for the responses.

>

> : )

>

> I'm gonna smile and not get worried.

> I try but it shows. - 'Pain'

>

> ----- Original Message ----

> From: Kirk Bonanny kbonanny@... <kbonanny%40gmail.com>

>

> , I've used that exact expression since I became sick, so you are not

> crazy....or maybe we both are! I think it is perfectly logical to describe

> pain or pains as " screaming " . It certainly is far more descriptive than

> trying to pick a number between 1-10. The numerical scale is the one that

> doesn't seem logical to me as pain doesn't " shout " " 7 " or " 10 " or " 3 " ! I

> do

> find that pain can be slight or dull, pulsating or strong, wicked or

> intolerable & " Screaming " or " Do something to reduce this pain before I

> get

> out of this bed and slam your damn head through the ******* wall!!! "

> That's the scale I prefer to use, and it certainly gets their attention

> when the pain is so horrible that you can't really control what you're

> thinking and words just come out of your mouth with no regard to the

> person

> you are SCREAMING them at!

> Hope this answers your question. Kirk.

>

> On 14/04/2008, Crossland <disabledskater2@ yahoo.com> wrote:

> >

> > I'm kinda asking but I'd like to see what everyone else thinks

> > also. I've always used different ways of telling someone something hurts

> and

> > as of late I've been saying [whatever] is screaming at me. I came across

> an

> > old English notebook from high school and it occured to me; if a body

> part

> > is apart of you, as a person, can it actually be considered

> personification?

> > I asked my Mom and Dad that and they looked at me like I was crazy. And

> > , my best friend of almost eight years, doesn't remember

> English

> > class so I thought I'd run it by you guys and see what the response was.

> So

> > let me know if I'm clever or if I've lost my hamster and should go

> looking

> > for the little bugger.

> >

> > : )

> >

> > I'm gonna smile and not get worried.

> > I try but it shows. - 'Pain'

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> > Be a better friend, newshound, and

> > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

> > http://mobile. yahoo.com/ ;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR 8HDtDypao8Wcj9tA cJ

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I know I have an incredible tolerance for pain through countless past

experiences ranging from being smashed in the head with an aluminum baseball

bat (knocked me down, but I got right back up and beat the **** out of my

brother) to refusing Novocaine when I needed dental work. The only thing in

my life that I couldn't tolerate prior to meeting Stills was when I " ate " a

creek bed @ 60mph on my motorcycle. I wound up with a compound fracture to

my right tibia & fibula. I don't remember it hurting until I saw my toes on

top of my knee...but that had to be due to shock.

I've also been hit with a thrown brick (right on the top bridge of my

nose.....), hit with a hammer (my brother again!), woken up to a 2x4 to the

head(brother) and countless other incidents. I do know that I have an

incredibly hard head!

Catch you later, Kirk.

>

> Yeah, I remember the nurses kept askin' me between 1 and 10 how bad is

> it and that was exactly what I said, " Uh, I dunno, I'm not sure my joints

> have learned how to count yet. " They didn't really like that response.

> Everyone's pain is different and numbers just say what its like for you but

> everyone can tolerate different than another. After this long I think me

> saying 3 now is like me saying 8 when I was six so it's just saying, " Hi, I

> went to med school to ask you a stupid question. "

> Thanks for the responses.

>

> : )

>

> I'm gonna smile and not get worried.

> I try but it shows. - 'Pain'

>

> ----- Original Message ----

> From: Kirk Bonanny kbonanny@... <kbonanny%40gmail.com>

>

> , I've used that exact expression since I became sick, so you are not

> crazy....or maybe we both are! I think it is perfectly logical to describe

> pain or pains as " screaming " . It certainly is far more descriptive than

> trying to pick a number between 1-10. The numerical scale is the one that

> doesn't seem logical to me as pain doesn't " shout " " 7 " or " 10 " or " 3 " ! I

> do

> find that pain can be slight or dull, pulsating or strong, wicked or

> intolerable & " Screaming " or " Do something to reduce this pain before I

> get

> out of this bed and slam your damn head through the ******* wall!!! "

> That's the scale I prefer to use, and it certainly gets their attention

> when the pain is so horrible that you can't really control what you're

> thinking and words just come out of your mouth with no regard to the

> person

> you are SCREAMING them at!

> Hope this answers your question. Kirk.

>

> On 14/04/2008, Crossland <disabledskater2@ yahoo.com> wrote:

> >

> > I'm kinda asking but I'd like to see what everyone else thinks

> > also. I've always used different ways of telling someone something hurts

> and

> > as of late I've been saying [whatever] is screaming at me. I came across

> an

> > old English notebook from high school and it occured to me; if a body

> part

> > is apart of you, as a person, can it actually be considered

> personification?

> > I asked my Mom and Dad that and they looked at me like I was crazy. And

> > , my best friend of almost eight years, doesn't remember

> English

> > class so I thought I'd run it by you guys and see what the response was.

> So

> > let me know if I'm clever or if I've lost my hamster and should go

> looking

> > for the little bugger.

> >

> > : )

> >

> > I'm gonna smile and not get worried.

> > I try but it shows. - 'Pain'

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> > Be a better friend, newshound, and

> > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

> > http://mobile. yahoo.com/ ;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR 8HDtDypao8Wcj9tA cJ

> >

> >