Guest guest Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 I agree!! Just thought i would post www.hypertc.com as an alernative to OH. This is mHBOT in GA (Atlanta area). Sharon moscarello8 <moscarello8@...> wrote: Hi everyone, First of all, Merry Christmas! Second of all, how about the real truth about hyperbaric oxygen?- at least pertaining to " my " knowledge. This is per my opinion and my 4 year old daughter's HBOT experiences in the past 2.5 years. Thought I would share since I am very active in the state of Ohio in trying to get HBOT Medicaid approved. I see so many posts full of hope and questions, but so few with any answers or guidance. I was in that situation myself in 2003. Did hyperbaric work for my daughter? Yes. Is it an absolute cure? No. Will it be a cure in the long term? I don't know. Is this therapy promising? Yes! Am I hopeful? Yes. Has she had measureable improvement? Yes! Yes! Yes! Can this improvement be explained by traditional PT, OT, Speech " therapy " . No!!!! and another resounding NO!!!! Absolutely not, No!! Do I have proof of this??? Yes!! What is this proof??? GMFM tests. Therapy reports. Physician reports, even physicians who know nothing about HBOT, but only saw the before/after clnical " evidence " . Bella has improved with HBOT that cannot be explained by traditional therapy. Period. Will your child need more than 40 treatments? More than probably, yes! Should that discourage you? No. Will it discourage you? Of course it will. We all want 40 to be the magical number. How many of us want to be gone for a month from our families paying $4,000 - $8,000 for treatments, plus hotels, food, gas, and the most priceless cost of being away from our husbands, our wives, our other children, our family??? Zero, none of us. How do you put a price on that? You can't. I have done this 5 times now. It is heartbreakingly difficult on me and my hubby and other children (5 of them) that I had to leave behind while getting treatment. What have I seen in Bella that can't be explained away by bogus traditional 30 minute per week therapy that is useless? In my humble opinion, 30 minutes per day is useless too. Go through the motions, write your treatment plan, bill the insurance company, order the special equipment, strap the child down, use the special exercises, and oh my gosh, your 30 minutes is up (more like 22 minutes after you get their coat off and spend 8 minutes complaining about life with your disabled child). Time to schedule next week's appointment. Yep, your child is making progress. She can hold a toy now in her hand for 1 billionth of a second compared to one billioth quadrillonth gazillionth of a second last month. Yeh!!! Oh, and she can kinda roll over maybe, kinda, a little, sorta, I think. And if we order some of this special million dollar equipment that your insurance might pay for if we send in 200 prior authorizations for, that might help too. How about reality and truth? Uh, how about hyperbaric???? Oh, no Mrs. Moscarello, don't waste your money!!! It is useless!!! Don't stress out your other kids. They will resent you. Blah, blah, blah.... Show me your statistics to back up what you say. Oh, gee, you can't. Show me your " proof " . Oh, that's right no other child you " treated " had hyperbaric, BARIATRIC, hypo bari, bari??? What was it called?? My response??? How can you tell me this hypo, hyper, bariatric, treatment is not helpful????? Especially when you cannot even pronounce it, or spell it and you think this treatment is somehow related to bariatric lipsuction fat reduction. How do we know this treatment isn't helpful?? Well, it just isn't. How do you know????? Have you ever clinically treated a child before/after HBOT??? What is the answer??? NO!! Then my response is. Then how do you know???? Uh..... Conversation ended. Goodbye. Moving on.......... How has Bella been helped????? Stridor - almost completely gone (laryngomalacia) Drooling - gone Fine motor improvement - yes Gross motor improvement - yes - and measureable. Taking many steps with help. Trying to walk in her gait trainer. Rolling everywhere and out of her bed. Getting out of her bed independently. Making improvements every week now. Little ones in most people's eyes, but huge ones for her. Cognitive improvement - yes - in mommy's measure amounts, not therapist because they don't interact with my daughter like I do. Like choosing and demanding and temper tantrums. And she can be bribed to do things that help get her moving. Like bribing her with coke if she gets out of her own bed or takes a step or two. Better quality of life improvement - yes! And better quality of life for me and her family. Is the heartache gone? No. Is it lessened? Yes, because now I have more hope that she can get better no matter what any M.D. or whatever their intials are. How about mine? M.0.6 - Mother of 6. Does that earn a degree? Yep, maybe in reproductive science. Will I give up?? No! Have doctors who know NOTHING about hyperbaric been amazed? YES!!! Have they become believers?? Yes. Will they admit it? The records speak for themselves so the answer is yes. Okay, now what???? You call Freels and tell him you want to help with Medicaid for HBOT. You write to me. You write to Judy Burkholder. You tell them you want help to get help for your child. Don't expect an easy answer to getting hyperbaric for your child. It takes work, more work, lots of heartache, headache, fight, more fight, and you know what PERSISTENCE. Your child needs you to be an advocate. Don't expect anyone in your county or state to do it for you because it is " their job " . That is the biggest joke I have ever heard, and I have a sense of humor and don't think that is funny. The more parents that rock the boat and rock it hard the better. We need to knock the people that are in charge of these boats out. Not only out, but in the water and don't let them back in. Let me tell you a few other facts. is a friend of mine. Judy is a friend of mine. I have met both in person. Why? Because I was in the right place at the right time and met both of them. Coincidence? No way. Judy was in Cleveland the same time I was in January 2005. I met her in the Mc House library. We were there to get Bella a feeding tube that she no longer needs. I met in Florida in July, 2006 at Dr. Neubauer's HBOT symposium. He was talking about reimbursement. I was there to help Dr. Morley promote prevention of brain damage. www.cordclamp.com (another email) I had talked to numerous times about medicaid reimbursement before. I have talked to many wonderful people on the phone and on the internet. The one thing I can tell all of you is to keep trying for reimbursement for HBOT.. It will NOT happen without your help. At least it won't happen for a long time. Other parents will fight, but if it is only one, by one, by one, and it will take a long, long, time..... How long do you want to wait for your child? Both and Judy (and many others)only care about helping our children heal the best way they can. The purest of motives (in my opinion) is no personal motive for monetary gain, fortune, or fame. That is the motive for those who seek HBOT for our children. Also your motive and mine. We all know how much horror brain damage has caused our families. has worked tirelessly for us. I have now joined in the fight. Judy has worked tirelessly for those of us in Ohio and for those in other states who have reached out asking for help. We need more parents to help fight this fight. It is easy to read an email and sigh.... oh this is nice..... But it takes a lot more work to call, write, complain, complain some more, and even complain more for a cause that is worthwhile. HBOT will not just happen for our children just because. It will be just because only if parents like us make it so. I am fighting the fight no matter how tired I am. It is my anger that keeps me going. And fighting. Thank you for all your hard work! And thank you Judy for all of yours. And most importantly, thank you Bella for helping me to believe not only for your recovery and the chance to have a life that doctors told me you could not, but for helping me to believe that miracles do happen, but only if you believe (and part of believing is helping to make a miracle happen with your own efforts and those of others who believe in miracles too.) Yes, God does heal, and miracles do happen, but just remember that God uses YOUR hands to help those miracles to be reality. 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Guest guest Posted December 25, 2006 Report Share Posted December 25, 2006 Sharon there is also Prohbot in the Marietta area. We have gone there twice for 40 dives. Sue sharon lang <flipperlang@...> wrote: I agree!! Just thought i would post www.hypertc.com as an alernative to OH. This is mHBOT in GA (Atlanta area). Sharon moscarello8 <moscarello8@...> wrote: Hi everyone, First of all, Merry Christmas! Second of all, how about the real truth about hyperbaric oxygen?- at least pertaining to " my " knowledge. This is per my opinion and my 4 year old daughter's HBOT experiences in the past 2.5 years. Thought I would share since I am very active in the state of Ohio in trying to get HBOT Medicaid approved. I see so many posts full of hope and questions, but so few with any answers or guidance. I was in that situation myself in 2003. Did hyperbaric work for my daughter? Yes. Is it an absolute cure? No. Will it be a cure in the long term? I don't know. Is this therapy promising? Yes! Am I hopeful? Yes. Has she had measureable improvement? Yes! Yes! Yes! Can this improvement be explained by traditional PT, OT, Speech " therapy " . No!!!! and another resounding NO!!!! Absolutely not, No!! Do I have proof of this??? Yes!! What is this proof??? GMFM tests. Therapy reports. Physician reports, even physicians who know nothing about HBOT, but only saw the before/after clnical " evidence " . Bella has improved with HBOT that cannot be explained by traditional therapy. Period. Will your child need more than 40 treatments? More than probably, yes! Should that discourage you? No. Will it discourage you? Of course it will. We all want 40 to be the magical number. How many of us want to be gone for a month from our families paying $4,000 - $8,000 for treatments, plus hotels, food, gas, and the most priceless cost of being away from our husbands, our wives, our other children, our family??? Zero, none of us. How do you put a price on that? You can't. I have done this 5 times now. It is heartbreakingly difficult on me and my hubby and other children (5 of them) that I had to leave behind while getting treatment. What have I seen in Bella that can't be explained away by bogus traditional 30 minute per week therapy that is useless? In my humble opinion, 30 minutes per day is useless too. Go through the motions, write your treatment plan, bill the insurance company, order the special equipment, strap the child down, use the special exercises, and oh my gosh, your 30 minutes is up (more like 22 minutes after you get their coat off and spend 8 minutes complaining about life with your disabled child). Time to schedule next week's appointment. Yep, your child is making progress. She can hold a toy now in her hand for 1 billionth of a second compared to one billioth quadrillonth gazillionth of a second last month. Yeh!!! Oh, and she can kinda roll over maybe, kinda, a little, sorta, I think. And if we order some of this special million dollar equipment that your insurance might pay for if we send in 200 prior authorizations for, that might help too. How about reality and truth? Uh, how about hyperbaric???? Oh, no Mrs. Moscarello, don't waste your money!!! It is useless!!! Don't stress out your other kids. They will resent you. Blah, blah, blah.... Show me your statistics to back up what you say. Oh, gee, you can't. Show me your " proof " . Oh, that's right no other child you " treated " had hyperbaric, BARIATRIC, hypo bari, bari??? What was it called?? My response??? How can you tell me this hypo, hyper, bariatric, treatment is not helpful????? Especially when you cannot even pronounce it, or spell it and you think this treatment is somehow related to bariatric lipsuction fat reduction. How do we know this treatment isn't helpful?? Well, it just isn't. How do you know????? Have you ever clinically treated a child before/after HBOT??? What is the answer??? NO!! Then my response is. Then how do you know???? Uh..... Conversation ended. Goodbye. Moving on.......... How has Bella been helped????? Stridor - almost completely gone (laryngomalacia) Drooling - gone Fine motor improvement - yes Gross motor improvement - yes - and measureable. Taking many steps with help. Trying to walk in her gait trainer. Rolling everywhere and out of her bed. Getting out of her bed independently. Making improvements every week now. Little ones in most people's eyes, but huge ones for her. Cognitive improvement - yes - in mommy's measure amounts, not therapist because they don't interact with my daughter like I do. Like choosing and demanding and temper tantrums. And she can be bribed to do things that help get her moving. Like bribing her with coke if she gets out of her own bed or takes a step or two. Better quality of life improvement - yes! And better quality of life for me and her family. Is the heartache gone? No. Is it lessened? Yes, because now I have more hope that she can get better no matter what any M.D. or whatever their intials are. How about mine? M.0.6 - Mother of 6. Does that earn a degree? Yep, maybe in reproductive science. Will I give up?? No! Have doctors who know NOTHING about hyperbaric been amazed? YES!!! Have they become believers?? Yes. Will they admit it? The records speak for themselves so the answer is yes. Okay, now what???? You call Freels and tell him you want to help with Medicaid for HBOT. You write to me. You write to Judy Burkholder. You tell them you want help to get help for your child. Don't expect an easy answer to getting hyperbaric for your child. It takes work, more work, lots of heartache, headache, fight, more fight, and you know what PERSISTENCE. Your child needs you to be an advocate. Don't expect anyone in your county or state to do it for you because it is " their job " . That is the biggest joke I have ever heard, and I have a sense of humor and don't think that is funny. The more parents that rock the boat and rock it hard the better. We need to knock the people that are in charge of these boats out. Not only out, but in the water and don't let them back in. Let me tell you a few other facts. is a friend of mine. Judy is a friend of mine. I have met both in person. Why? Because I was in the right place at the right time and met both of them. Coincidence? No way. Judy was in Cleveland the same time I was in January 2005. I met her in the Mc House library. We were there to get Bella a feeding tube that she no longer needs. I met in Florida in July, 2006 at Dr. Neubauer's HBOT symposium. He was talking about reimbursement. I was there to help Dr. Morley promote prevention of brain damage. www.cordclamp.com (another email) I had talked to numerous times about medicaid reimbursement before. I have talked to many wonderful people on the phone and on the internet. The one thing I can tell all of you is to keep trying for reimbursement for HBOT.. It will NOT happen without your help. At least it won't happen for a long time. Other parents will fight, but if it is only one, by one, by one, and it will take a long, long, time..... How long do you want to wait for your child? Both and Judy (and many others)only care about helping our children heal the best way they can. The purest of motives (in my opinion) is no personal motive for monetary gain, fortune, or fame. That is the motive for those who seek HBOT for our children. Also your motive and mine. We all know how much horror brain damage has caused our families. has worked tirelessly for us. I have now joined in the fight. Judy has worked tirelessly for those of us in Ohio and for those in other states who have reached out asking for help. We need more parents to help fight this fight. It is easy to read an email and sigh.... oh this is nice..... But it takes a lot more work to call, write, complain, complain some more, and even complain more for a cause that is worthwhile. HBOT will not just happen for our children just because. It will be just because only if parents like us make it so. I am fighting the fight no matter how tired I am. It is my anger that keeps me going. And fighting. Thank you for all your hard work! And thank you Judy for all of yours. And most importantly, thank you Bella for helping me to believe not only for your recovery and the chance to have a life that doctors told me you could not, but for helping me to believe that miracles do happen, but only if you believe (and part of believing is helping to make a miracle happen with your own efforts and those of others who believe in miracles too.) Yes, God does heal, and miracles do happen, but just remember that God uses YOUR hands to help those miracles to be reality. 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Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Yes the hypertc.com people are great. They are actually in Cumming, GA about 45 minutes outside of GA. They were priced reasonably and if you have a friend with a child you can put both kids in the chamber with you and pay one price. They would have to share the oxygen but without a hood my son would hardly wear it anyway unless he fell asleep. > Hi everyone, > > First of all, Merry Christmas! Second of all, how about the real > truth about hyperbaric oxygen?- at least pertaining to " my " > knowledge. > > This is per my opinion and my 4 year old daughter's HBOT experiences > in the past 2.5 years. Thought I would share since I am very active > in the state of Ohio in trying to get HBOT Medicaid approved. I see > so many posts full of hope and questions, but so few with any > answers or guidance. I was in that situation myself in 2003. > > Did hyperbaric work for my daughter? Yes. Is it an absolute cure? > No. Will it be a cure in the long term? I don't know. Is this > therapy promising? Yes! Am I hopeful? Yes. Has she had measureable > improvement? Yes! Yes! Yes! Can this improvement be explained by > traditional PT, OT, Speech " therapy " . No!!!! and another resounding > NO!!!! Absolutely not, No!! Do I have proof of this??? Yes!! What > is this proof??? GMFM tests. Therapy reports. Physician reports, > even physicians who know nothing about HBOT, but only saw the > before/after clnical " evidence " . Bella has improved with HBOT that > cannot be explained by traditional therapy. Period. > > Will your child need more than 40 treatments? More than probably, > yes! Should that discourage you? No. Will it discourage you? Of > course it will. We all want 40 to be the magical number. How many > of us want to be gone for a month from our families paying $4,000 - > $8,000 for treatments, plus hotels, food, gas, and the most > priceless cost of being away from our husbands, our wives, our other > children, our family??? Zero, none of us. How do you put a price > on that? You can't. I have done this 5 times now. It is > heartbreakingly difficult on me and my hubby and other children (5 > of them) that I had to leave behind while getting treatment. > > What have I seen in Bella that can't be explained away by bogus > traditional 30 minute per week therapy that is useless? In my > humble opinion, 30 minutes per day is useless too. Go through the > motions, write your treatment plan, bill the insurance company, > order the special equipment, strap the child down, use the special > exercises, and oh my gosh, your 30 minutes is up (more like 22 > minutes after you get their coat off and spend 8 minutes complaining > about life with your disabled child). Time to schedule next week's > appointment. Yep, your child is making progress. She can hold a > toy now in her hand for 1 billionth of a second compared to one > billioth quadrillonth gazillionth of a second last month. Yeh!!! > Oh, and she can kinda roll over maybe, kinda, a little, sorta, I > think. And if we order some of this special million dollar > equipment that your insurance might pay for if we send in 200 prior > authorizations for, that might help too. > > How about reality and truth? Uh, how about hyperbaric???? > > Oh, no Mrs. Moscarello, don't waste your money!!! It is useless!!! > Don't stress out your other kids. They will resent you. Blah, > blah, blah.... > > Show me your statistics to back up what you say. Oh, gee, you > can't. Show me your " proof " . Oh, that's right no other child > you " treated " had hyperbaric, > > BARIATRIC, hypo bari, bari??? What was it called?? > > My response??? How can you tell me this hypo, hyper, bariatric, > treatment is not helpful????? Especially when you cannot even > pronounce it, or spell it and you think this treatment is somehow > related to bariatric lipsuction fat reduction. > > How do we know this treatment isn't helpful?? Well, it just isn't. > > How do you know????? Have you ever clinically treated a child > before/after HBOT??? > > What is the answer??? NO!! > > Then my response is. Then how do you know???? > > Uh..... Conversation ended. Goodbye. > > Moving on.......... > > How has Bella been helped????? > > Stridor - almost completely gone (laryngomalacia) > > Drooling - gone > > Fine motor improvement - yes > > Gross motor improvement - yes - and measureable. Taking many steps > with help. Trying to walk in her gait trainer. Rolling everywhere > and out of her bed. Getting out of her bed independently. Making > improvements every week now. Little ones in most people's eyes, but > huge ones for her. > > Cognitive improvement - yes - in mommy's measure amounts, not > therapist because they don't interact with my daughter like I do. > Like choosing and demanding and temper tantrums. And she can be > bribed to do things that help get her moving. Like bribing her with > coke if she gets out of her own bed or takes a step or two. > > Better quality of life improvement - yes! And better quality of > life for me and her family. > > Is the heartache gone? No. Is it lessened? Yes, because now I have > more hope that she can get better no matter what any M.D. or > whatever their intials are. How about mine? M.0.6 - Mother of 6. > Does that earn a degree? Yep, maybe in reproductive science. > > Will I give up?? No! > > Have doctors who know NOTHING about hyperbaric been amazed? YES!!! > Have they become believers?? Yes. Will they admit it? The records > speak for themselves so the answer is yes. > > Okay, now what???? > > You call Freels and tell him you want to help with Medicaid > for HBOT. You write to me. You write to Judy Burkholder. You tell > them you want help to get help for your child. Don't expect an easy > answer to getting hyperbaric for your child. It takes work, more > work, lots of heartache, headache, fight, more fight, and you know > what PERSISTENCE. Your child needs you to be an advocate. Don't > expect anyone in your county or state to do it for you because it > is " their job " . That is the biggest joke I have ever heard, and I > have a sense of humor and don't think that is funny. The more > parents that rock the boat and rock it hard the better. We need to > knock the people that are in charge of these boats out. Not only > out, but in the water and don't let them back in. > > Let me tell you a few other facts. > > is a friend of mine. Judy is a friend of mine. I have met > both in person. Why? Because I was in the right place at the right > time and met both of them. Coincidence? No way. Judy was in > Cleveland the same time I was in January 2005. I met her in the > Mc House library. We were there to get Bella a feeding > tube that she no longer needs. > > I met in Florida in July, 2006 at Dr. Neubauer's HBOT > symposium. He was talking about reimbursement. I was there to help > Dr. Morley promote prevention of brain damage. > > www.cordclamp.com (another email) > > I had talked to numerous times about medicaid reimbursement > before. > > I have talked to many wonderful people on the phone and on the > internet. The one thing I can tell all of you is to keep trying for > reimbursement for HBOT.. It will NOT happen without your help. At > least it won't happen for a long time. Other parents will fight, > but if it is only one, by one, by one, and it will take a long, > long, time..... How long do you want to wait for your child? > > Both and Judy (and many others)only care about helping our > children heal the best way they can. The purest of motives (in my > opinion) is no personal motive for monetary gain, fortune, or fame. > That is the motive for those who seek HBOT for our children. Also > your motive and mine. We all know how much horror brain damage has > caused our families. > > has worked tirelessly for us. I have now joined in the > fight. Judy has worked tirelessly for those of us in Ohio and for > those in other states who have reached out asking for help. We need > more parents to help fight this fight. It is easy to read an email > and sigh.... oh this is nice..... > > But it takes a lot more work to call, write, complain, complain some > more, and even complain more for a cause that is worthwhile. HBOT > will not just happen for our children just because. It will be just > because only if parents like us make it so. > > I am fighting the fight no matter how tired I am. It is my anger > that keeps me going. And fighting. > > Thank you for all your hard work! And thank you Judy for all > of yours. And most importantly, thank you Bella for helping me to > believe not only for your recovery and the chance to have a life > that doctors told me you could not, but for helping me to believe > that miracles do happen, but only if you believe (and part of > believing is helping to make a miracle happen with your own efforts > and those of others who believe in miracles too.) Yes, God does > heal, and miracles do happen, but just remember that God uses YOUR > hands to help those miracles to be reality. > > Ann Moscarello > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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