Guest guest Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 My hunch is that some who are outspoken and critical of vaccines in general /MMR/thimerosal have to be careful and perhaps say that they are supportive of vaccines/the general concept of vaccines because if they don't, their research will simply be dismissed totally (they won't get published in journals) and they will be labeled as some kind of nut by the medical establishment. I am not saying that this applies to Dr. Haley, because I do not know his views. In my opinion, it takes activism at various levels, from extreme to less extreme, to make change in the world because different audiences are receptive at different levels. All levels of activism have their place because they reach different people/groups. If he supports the concept of vaccination, then his views will reach countless medical professionals who more than likely would completely dismiss the more extreme views of those on this list. I think change occurs in baby steps. Not fast enough for most people . . . .. . including me. MY COMMENTS - Boyd Haley''s Response to Article (Mercury Fillings: They're Not Risky ) > > Hi Boyd, > > That response to the Article " Mercury Fillings: They're Not Risky) was > EXCELLENT.......... > Thank you for doing it! > > BUTTTTTTTTTTTT > > .........and you know what I'm going to say............... > > You stated................... > (PLEASE NOTE THAT I AM IN FAVOR OF A STRONG VACCINE PROGRAM > ABSENT MERCURY COMPOUNDS.) > > This is NOT an OK statement > > I hope you really didn't mean this, because if you did, you just need more > information. > > Where can I start? I have thousands and thousands of documents. > > There is NOTHING safe about vaccines - NOTHING > > Besides mercury there is: > Aluminum and other adjuvants - now squalene which is implicated in GWS > Contamination - DNA/RNA, mycoplasma, other bacteria, monkey and other > viruses & retroviruses > Antigens alone are toxic - look at MMR; rubella vax and arthritis; so many > Theory is wrong - PERIOD.........so many issues - bypassing Th1, antibodies > don't mean immunity, and so much more > Disease has no where to go when injected but round and round > Not to mention conflict of interest > > Mercury is a big issue BUT ONLY ONE. People were having vaccine reactions > with smallpox vaccine when it was the only one. > See my pages about smallpox > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/smallpox.htm > whereever the vaccine went, disease followed > > They KNOW VERY LITTLE about the immune system and even less about an > infants and the manipulations they are doing are terrifying. > > > Not allowing children to get childhood illnesses which MAY BE VERY > necessary MAY be disastrous (I would say is disastrous) > > These vaccines ARE NOT needed > > You will never get health by injecting toxins and putrid matter into the > bodies of humans > > And I'll enclose to you what I sent to Dr. ...........in response to > his article. > And you may want to read his article if you haven't as you will learn lots > there > > For you (what I also sent to Dr. ) > 8. I encourage you to LOOK DEEPER into the vaccines you do recommend > > a. Diphtheria is hardly a risk at all in the US and other developed > countries and again alternative treatment modalities need to be > acknowledged and honored such as homeopathy (which had great success > treating people in times past with diphtheria). > b. Pertussis - Yes infants are more at risk, but I know many unvaccinated > infants who have come thru it just fine. And there is a homeopathic nosode > (You probably aren't a fan of homeopathy or even know much about it, but it > has a reputation for assisting greatly in pertussis in infants and children > and adults). Also Vitamin C. The recovery time for a child with pertussis > is greatly decreased with homeopathic treatment. > c. Tetanus - another can of worms. Please read my webpage on tetanus vaccine > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/tetanus.htm > Much propaganda about tetanus. Did you know there is NO diagnostic test > for tetanus? So how do we know a person actually has tetanus. Symptoms of > tetanus are similar to symptoms of some other toxic poisonings. We have no > test to prove the person has tetanus. And good wound care is far and away > your best treatment for dirty injuries. And the risk for tetanus is not > the same in every area of the country. And tetanus vaccine is one vaccine > that I get many many emails on from people telling me of damage to > themselves or their children that doesn't go away - tetanus like symptoms. > The vaccine is so extremely toxic its been diluted and diluted.........and > still causing problems in some. And does it even work? Questionable. > d. Polio - also another can of worms - a MAJOR sacred cow. The vaccine > upon which they build the propaganda for all the other vaccines (along > with smallpox). See my webpages and links to polio > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/polio.htm > Much of what was coming out about the cause for the 'epidemics' of polio > was quashed or never investigated? > Is it the result of other toxins weakening the person so susceptible? DDT, > other vaccines given - provocation polio - polio following DPT vaccination. > Polio following tonsilectomies. Sugar. Why didn't we try to find out the > cause instead of going for the romantic, lucrative vaccine. And did the > vaccine cause the decline? Not sure............already on the decline > somewhat BEFORE the vaccine. > > Sheri > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 My first sentence is confusing. I should have said -- those who are outspoken about and critical of a vaccine component such as thimerosal or a particular vaccine such as MMR have to be careful and perhaps say that they are in agreement with the general concept of vaccination (and maybe they really are in agreement with vaccination) because if they don't . . . . . . MY COMMENTS - Boyd Haley''s Response to Article > (Mercury Fillings: They're Not Risky ) > > > > > > Hi Boyd, > > > > That response to the Article " Mercury Fillings: They're Not Risky) was > > EXCELLENT.......... > > Thank you for doing it! > > > > BUTTTTTTTTTTTT > > > > .........and you know what I'm going to say............... > > > > You stated................... > > (PLEASE NOTE THAT I AM IN FAVOR OF A STRONG VACCINE PROGRAM > > ABSENT MERCURY COMPOUNDS.) > > > > This is NOT an OK statement > > > > I hope you really didn't mean this, because if you did, you just need more > > information. > > > > Where can I start? I have thousands and thousands of documents. > > > > There is NOTHING safe about vaccines - NOTHING > > > > Besides mercury there is: > > Aluminum and other adjuvants - now squalene which is implicated in GWS > > Contamination - DNA/RNA, mycoplasma, other bacteria, monkey and other > > viruses & retroviruses > > Antigens alone are toxic - look at MMR; rubella vax and arthritis; so many > > Theory is wrong - PERIOD.........so many issues - bypassing Th1, > antibodies > > don't mean immunity, and so much more > > Disease has no where to go when injected but round and round > > Not to mention conflict of interest > > > > Mercury is a big issue BUT ONLY ONE. People were having vaccine reactions > > with smallpox vaccine when it was the only one. > > See my pages about smallpox > > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/smallpox.htm > > whereever the vaccine went, disease followed > > > > They KNOW VERY LITTLE about the immune system and even less about an > > infants and the manipulations they are doing are terrifying. > > > > > > Not allowing children to get childhood illnesses which MAY BE VERY > > necessary MAY be disastrous (I would say is disastrous) > > > > These vaccines ARE NOT needed > > > > You will never get health by injecting toxins and putrid matter into the > > bodies of humans > > > > And I'll enclose to you what I sent to Dr. ...........in response to > > his article. > > And you may want to read his article if you haven't as you will learn lots > > there > > > > For you (what I also sent to Dr. ) > > 8. I encourage you to LOOK DEEPER into the vaccines you do recommend > > > > a. Diphtheria is hardly a risk at all in the US and other developed > > countries and again alternative treatment modalities need to be > > acknowledged and honored such as homeopathy (which had great success > > treating people in times past with diphtheria). > > b. Pertussis - Yes infants are more at risk, but I know many unvaccinated > > infants who have come thru it just fine. And there is a homeopathic > nosode > > (You probably aren't a fan of homeopathy or even know much about it, but > it > > has a reputation for assisting greatly in pertussis in infants and > children > > and adults). Also Vitamin C. The recovery time for a child with > pertussis > > is greatly decreased with homeopathic treatment. > > c. Tetanus - another can of worms. Please read my webpage on tetanus > vaccine > > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/tetanus.htm > > Much propaganda about tetanus. Did you know there is NO diagnostic test > > for tetanus? So how do we know a person actually has tetanus. Symptoms > of > > tetanus are similar to symptoms of some other toxic poisonings. We have > no > > test to prove the person has tetanus. And good wound care is far and away > > your best treatment for dirty injuries. And the risk for tetanus is not > > the same in every area of the country. And tetanus vaccine is one vaccine > > that I get many many emails on from people telling me of damage to > > themselves or their children that doesn't go away - tetanus like symptoms. > > The vaccine is so extremely toxic its been diluted and diluted.........and > > still causing problems in some. And does it even work? Questionable. > > d. Polio - also another can of worms - a MAJOR sacred cow. The vaccine > > upon which they build the propaganda for all the other vaccines (along > > with smallpox). See my webpages and links to polio > > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/polio.htm > > Much of what was coming out about the cause for the 'epidemics' of polio > > was quashed or never investigated? > > Is it the result of other toxins weakening the person so susceptible? > DDT, > > other vaccines given - provocation polio - polio following DPT > vaccination. > > Polio following tonsilectomies. Sugar. Why didn't we try to find out > the > > cause instead of going for the romantic, lucrative vaccine. And did the > > vaccine cause the decline? Not sure............already on the decline > > somewhat BEFORE the vaccine. > > > > Sheri > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath > > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/BoydHaleyFDAmalgamResponse.doc Hi Boyd, That response to the Article " Mercury Fillings: They're Not Risky) was EXCELLENT.......... Thank you for doing it! BUTTTTTTTTTTTT ..........and you know what I'm going to say............... You stated................... (PLEASE NOTE THAT I AM IN FAVOR OF A STRONG VACCINE PROGRAM ABSENT MERCURY COMPOUNDS.) This is NOT an OK statement I hope you really didn't mean this, because if you did, you just need more information. Where can I start? I have thousands and thousands of documents. There is NOTHING safe about vaccines - NOTHING Besides mercury there is: Aluminum and other adjuvants - now squalene which is implicated in GWS Contamination - DNA/RNA, mycoplasma, other bacteria, monkey and other viruses & retroviruses Antigens alone are toxic - look at MMR; rubella vax and arthritis; so many Theory is wrong - PERIOD.........so many issues - bypassing Th1, antibodies don't mean immunity, and so much more Disease has no where to go when injected but round and round Not to mention conflict of interest Mercury is a big issue BUT ONLY ONE. People were having vaccine reactions with smallpox vaccine when it was the only one. See my pages about smallpox http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/smallpox.htm whereever the vaccine went, disease followed They KNOW VERY LITTLE about the immune system and even less about an infants and the manipulations they are doing are terrifying. Not allowing children to get childhood illnesses which MAY BE VERY necessary MAY be disastrous (I would say is disastrous) These vaccines ARE NOT needed You will never get health by injecting toxins and putrid matter into the bodies of humans And I'll enclose to you what I sent to Dr. ...........in response to his article. And you may want to read his article if you haven't as you will learn lots there For you (what I also sent to Dr. ) 8. I encourage you to LOOK DEEPER into the vaccines you do recommend a. Diphtheria is hardly a risk at all in the US and other developed countries and again alternative treatment modalities need to be acknowledged and honored such as homeopathy (which had great success treating people in times past with diphtheria). b. Pertussis - Yes infants are more at risk, but I know many unvaccinated infants who have come thru it just fine. And there is a homeopathic nosode (You probably aren't a fan of homeopathy or even know much about it, but it has a reputation for assisting greatly in pertussis in infants and children and adults). Also Vitamin C. The recovery time for a child with pertussis is greatly decreased with homeopathic treatment. c. Tetanus - another can of worms. Please read my webpage on tetanus vaccine http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/tetanus.htm Much propaganda about tetanus. Did you know there is NO diagnostic test for tetanus? So how do we know a person actually has tetanus. Symptoms of tetanus are similar to symptoms of some other toxic poisonings. We have no test to prove the person has tetanus. And good wound care is far and away your best treatment for dirty injuries. And the risk for tetanus is not the same in every area of the country. And tetanus vaccine is one vaccine that I get many many emails on from people telling me of damage to themselves or their children that doesn't go away - tetanus like symptoms. The vaccine is so extremely toxic its been diluted and diluted.........and still causing problems in some. And does it even work? Questionable. d. Polio - also another can of worms - a MAJOR sacred cow. The vaccine upon which they build the propaganda for all the other vaccines (along with smallpox). See my webpages and links to polio http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/polio.htm Much of what was coming out about the cause for the 'epidemics' of polio was quashed or never investigated? Is it the result of other toxins weakening the person so susceptible? DDT, other vaccines given - provocation polio - polio following DPT vaccination. Polio following tonsilectomies. Sugar. Why didn't we try to find out the cause instead of going for the romantic, lucrative vaccine. And did the vaccine cause the decline? Not sure............already on the decline somewhat BEFORE the vaccine. Sheri -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm DEFINITION * TREATMENT * PREVENTION Autism is 1 in 150 children today, 1 in 68 families! TAAP (The Autism Autoimmunity Project) is a non-profit charity dedicated to obtaining funding for independent research into the cause, treatment and prevention of autism and other autoimmune disorders. Please visit our new website at http://www.TAAP.info and " TAAP into the Truth! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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