Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 I think this is a wonderful idea. I don't know how I could help, but if you would like actual parental imput as to changes they have seen with their kids,I would be happy to relate our experience. Hugs Tammy & Nate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2002 Report Share Posted September 8, 2002 I don't really understand the problem with your professor's problem with #2 re: OT in the control group. What about the timing of patient improvements in addition of HBOT with OT vs OT alone. Betsy Tyler RN BSN CCRN MOMMIE [ ] HBOT research > Hi everyone, > Sunny told me about this group. I just started going for my masters of OT > two weeks ago. I have a lot of experience working with brain-injured > children, especially those who have nearly drowned. I belong to a group on > called parentsofneardrowns and have also started a nonprofit called > HUGS (www.hugsfoundation.org). So many of the kids on the group have done > HBOT and have shown a lot of improvements. Next year, I have to do a > research project. I'd like to help the kids on the site somehow, and I > thought of HBOT. Now, I have a few months before I have to have a topic > chosen, but I thought I'd come up with a hypothesis and run it by my > professor: > > Children with Cerebral Palsy will become more aware and will develop > > more control of their muscles when they are able to have Hyperbaric > > Oxygen Treatments (HBOT) in connection with Occupational THerapy rather > > than just Occupational Therapy alone. > My professor had three problems with this: > 1. He says OT's probably don't do the actual HBO treatments. > 2. The way I worded my hypothesis, I'm putting OT in the control group. I > should be studying something more OT related. > 3. He said the main problem would be getting research subjects. ( I really > wouldn't think that would be a problem.) > > My professor admitted he really doesn't know anything about HBOT and has no > experience with it. > Any thoughts? If I came up with the right research topic, I could prove the > HBOT works. Any suggestions would be appreciated. > Thank you, > God bless, > Hipsher > <A HREF= " http://www.hugsfoundation.org " >Hope & Understanding for God's Special Children, Inc.</A> > Please sign the <A HREF= " http://www.petitionpetition.com/cgi/petition.cgi?id=4197 " >Harley's Law petition</A> for pool safety > E-Mail: <A HREF= " mailto:Chris@... " >Chris@...</A> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2002 Report Share Posted September 8, 2002 Dear I would love to be some how involved with your plan, Near drown children are very close to my heart and we have treated 7 dear children. We are just starting a 19 month old N.D. Child this week. Please let me know how I can be of some sort of help or be involved in some way. You can call my office, 909-889-0517 or alternatively you can write me: hyperbaric1@... and please visit our website: www.hbot4u.com God bless you and Pat CHT Parents of Susie, Dee and ' ( Recovered) [ ] HBOT research Hi everyone, Sunny told me about this group. I just started going for my masters of OT two weeks ago. I have a lot of experience working with brain-injured children, especially those who have nearly drowned. I belong to a group on called parentsofneardrowns and have also started a nonprofit called HUGS (www.hugsfoundation.org). So many of the kids on the group have done HBOT and have shown a lot of improvements. Next year, I have to do a research project. I'd like to help the kids on the site somehow, and I thought of HBOT. Now, I have a few months before I have to have a topic chosen, but I thought I'd come up with a hypothesis and run it by my professor: > Children with Cerebral Palsy will become more aware and will develop > more control of their muscles when they are able to have Hyperbaric > Oxygen Treatments (HBOT) in connection with Occupational THerapy rather > than just Occupational Therapy alone. My professor had three problems with this: 1. He says OT's probably don't do the actual HBO treatments. 2. The way I worded my hypothesis, I'm putting OT in the control group. I should be studying something more OT related. 3. He said the main problem would be getting research subjects. ( I really wouldn't think that would be a problem.) My professor admitted he really doesn't know anything about HBOT and has no experience with it. Any thoughts? If I came up with the right research topic, I could prove the HBOT works. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you, God bless, Hipsher <A HREF= " http://www.hugsfoundation.org " >Hope & Understanding for God's Special Children, Inc.</A> Please sign the <A HREF= " http://www.petitionpetition.com/cgi/petition.cgi?id=4197 " >Harley's Law petition</A> for pool safety E-Mail: <A HREF= " mailto:Chris@... " >Chris@...</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 & Pat, Thank you for your interest. I really feel strongly about doing this research. My professor told me to find a different project, like I said, but if there's anyway I could do this, I sure would like to. Thank you for offering to help -- I'll keep you in mind and will let you know if I need you. First of course, I need to get my professor's approval on the project... I need a plan :-) If you could, please direct the parents of the 7 children who have nearly drowned to our <A HREF= " http://www.hugsfoundation.org/ " >HUGS</A> site, especially the 19 month old child. We would like to offer them support. Its very encouraging that the 19 month old is getting HBOT so soon (I'm assuming the accident was recently). Thank you to everyone else who replied and showed support for my project. At this point, it's a no-go, but if I can find a way to convince my professor that this is a worthwhile project (while incorporating OT) it may work. Please keep in touch. God bless, Hipsher <A HREF= " http://www.hugsfoundation.org " >Hope & Understanding for God's Special Children, Inc.</A> Please sign the <A HREF= " http://www.petitionpetition.com/cgi/petition.cgi?id=4197 " >Harley's Law petition</A> for pool safety E-Mail: <A HREF= " mailto:Chris@... " >Chris@...</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 Dear it is a real pity that your professor cannot see the importance of putting OTs to work in a field where they are really needed. It is known that patients often regain motor habilities while in the chamber. You OTs are well equiped to evaluate eventual change and to train for solid and established gains. The fact that chambers do evoke unusual control and movements is seldom properly registered, let alone researched. At the same time, variable amounts of work under hyperbaric conditions may enhance hypersensitivity to oxygen, -some people wrongly call it oxygen toxicity-, specially in brain injured patients. All these factors are known, but not yet thoroughly researched, or even properly hypothesized upon. OTs could be instrumental in gearing a graded training protocol under pressure, while preventing these side-effects through a set of suitable measures. Post-chamber training protocols should also be studied and established. Do not abandon the boat. Best regards. Ignacio Fojgel, M.D. Buenos Aires, Argentina Pray4@... wrote: > & Pat, > Thank you for your interest. > I really feel strongly about doing this research. My professor told me to > find a different project, like I said, but if there's anyway I could do this, > I sure would like to. > Thank you for offering to help -- I'll keep you in mind and will let you know > if I need you. First of course, I need to get my professor's approval on the > project... I need a plan :-) > If you could, please direct the parents of the 7 children who have nearly > drowned to our <A HREF= " http://www.hugsfoundation.org/ " >HUGS</A> site, especially the 19 month old child. We would like > to offer them support. Its very encouraging that the 19 month old is getting > HBOT so soon (I'm assuming the accident was recently). > > Thank you to everyone else who replied and showed support for my project. At > this point, it's a no-go, but if I can find a way to convince my professor > that this is a worthwhile project (while incorporating OT) it may work. > Please keep in touch. > God bless, > > Hipsher > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 Yes, lets stay in touch, we start the 19th month old this week. I will let you know how she does, Pray for her. [ ] HBOT research & Pat, Thank you for your interest. I really feel strongly about doing this research. My professor told me to find a different project, like I said, but if there's anyway I could do this, I sure would like to. Thank you for offering to help -- I'll keep you in mind and will let you know if I need you. First of course, I need to get my professor's approval on the project... I need a plan :-) If you could, please direct the parents of the 7 children who have nearly drowned to our <A HREF= " http://www.hugsfoundation.org/ " >HUGS</A> site, especially the 19 month old child. We would like to offer them support. Its very encouraging that the 19 month old is getting HBOT so soon (I'm assuming the accident was recently). Thank you to everyone else who replied and showed support for my project. At this point, it's a no-go, but if I can find a way to convince my professor that this is a worthwhile project (while incorporating OT) it may work. Please keep in touch. God bless, Hipsher <A HREF= " http://www.hugsfoundation.org " >Hope & Understanding for God's Special Children, Inc.</A> Please sign the <A HREF= " http://www.petitionpetition.com/cgi/petition.cgi?id=4197 " >Harley's Law petition</A> for pool safety E-Mail: <A HREF= " mailto:Chris@... " >Chris@...</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 Dear Dr. Fojgel, Thank you for the encouragement. What you wrote is very interesting, and I'm going to save your e-mail. I appreciate you taking the time to write! Please keep in touch. God bless, Hipsher <A HREF= " http://www.hugsfoundation.org " >Hope & Understanding for God's Special Children, Inc.</A> Please sign the <A HREF= " http://www.petitionpetition.com/cgi/petition.cgi?id=4197 " >Harley's Law petition</A> for pool safety E-Mail: <A HREF= " mailto:Chris@... " >Chris@...</A> Dear it is a real pity that your professor cannot see the importance of putting OTs to work in a field where they are really needed. It is known that patients often regain motor habilities while in the chamber. You OTs are well equiped to evaluate eventual change and to train for solid and established gains. The fact that chambers do evoke unusual control and movements is seldom properly registered, let alone researched. At the same time, variable amounts of work under hyperbaric conditions may enhance hypersensitivity to oxygen, -some people wrongly call it oxygen toxicity-, specially in brain injured patients. All these factors are known, but not yet thoroughly researched, or even properly hypothesized upon. OTs could be instrumental in gearing a graded training protocol under pressure, while preventing these side-effects through a set of suitable measures. Post-chamber training protocols should also be studied and established. Do not abandon the boat. Best regards. Ignacio Fojgel, M.D. Buenos Aires, Argentina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 Hi , Can I ask the little girls first name? I will definitely keep her in my prayers. Please let me know how she does. How long ago did her accident happen? If you could, tell her parents about our support group. :-) Thanks! God bless, Hipsher <A HREF= " http://www.hugsfoundation.org " >Hope & Understanding for God's Special Children, Inc.</A> Please sign the <A HREF= " http://www.petitionpetition.com/cgi/petition.cgi?id=4197 " >Harley's Law petition</A> for pool safety E-Mail: <A HREF= " mailto:Chris@... " >Chris@...</A> > Yes, lets stay in touch, we start the 19th month old this week. I will let > you know how she does, Pray for her. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 In a message dated 9/7/2002 7:03:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, tylermbk@... writes: > I don't really understand the problem with your professor's problem with #2 > re: OT in the control group. What about the timing of patient improvements > in addition of HBOT with OT vs OT alone. > Betsy Tyler RN BSN CCRN MOMMIE > Ditto! This should not be a confounding factor if OT is involved with both groups. Dr. Cheryl Bruce, MD The Center For Exceptional Children and Families, Inc. " Where growth begins! " P.O. Box 732 Belmont, CA 94002-0732 http://www.gregorycenter.org cheryl@... 1-650-591-1181 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 Cool, thank you.. I didn't really understand the reasoning either. I'm building an argument and will try real hard to do this research Thank you everyone who's offered advice. > I don't really understand the problem with your professor's problem with #2 > re: OT in the control group. What about the timing of patient improvements > in addition of HBOT with OT vs OT alone. > Betsy Tyler RN BSN CCRN MOMMIE > Ditto! This should not be a confounding factor if OT is involved with both groups. Hipsher <A HREF= " http://www.hugsfoundation.org " >Hope & Understanding for God's Special Children, Inc.</A> Please sign the <A HREF= " http://www.petitionpetition.com/cgi/petition.cgi?id=4197 " >Harley's Law petition</A> for pool safety E-Mail: <A HREF= " mailto:Chris@... " >Chris@...</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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