Guest guest Posted September 19, 2000 Report Share Posted September 19, 2000 this is what i know the PT said to ice the joints before excercise ice will numb the pain also the reason for the warm packs is to relief stiffness with arthritis its a combonation of ice and heat because of the joint then you think of the muscles connecting melissa will use the ice pack for headaches also warm bath in the mornings will get the kids moveing better basically it a do what does best Robbin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2000 Report Share Posted September 19, 2000 , My chiropractor told me to do the same thing with the ice packs. My daughter's therapist said we could use either one on her, so some days she gets a warm soak and them some days she gets a cold soak. So I get either hot/cold is fine depending on how it makes the child feel.We use more hot than cold because she stiff after use most of the time and complains that she's aching afterwards, so I think you have to do what's best for the child. Ywellen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2000 Report Share Posted September 19, 2000 Hi, My son usually finds it very soothing to have a warm bath when his body is, overall, sore and achey. The warmth seems to help loosen up any stiffness and get him moving around again more quickly. When it's one particular joint that is troubling him we always use a wrapped ice pack. When he has an inflamed joint, the area around it is usually very warm. Applying ice helps reduce the pain and often, some of the swelling/inflammation. Though we seem to be beyond that stage right now, for a very long time my son had extremely high fevers that accompanied his systemic JRA. We were always trying to lower his body temperature, possibly another reason why I reach for the ice long before considering a source of heat. However, when he had costochondritis(sp?), inflammation in his rib cage/chest area that was extremely painful for him, aside from codeine the thing that helped most was applying a heat compress. I guess it just depends. Take care, Georgina Younge wrote: > <We also know that heat packs or hot showers can relax the muscles > around > the joints and relieve stiffness and pain for some. Conversely, ice > packs can ease the inflammation in the joints themselves. (bold mine)> > > [From article: Whether weather affects arthritis pain] > > Okay this may be a really strange question, but I copied this out of > one of the articles that Georgina sent out. And I've always wondered > about this. Most everyone on the loop has suggested warm wraps, water > beds, etc. for joint pain. But, my husband's chiropractor has always > said to stay away from heat- even though it feels good- because it can > worsen inflammation and therefore worsen the pain. He's always said to > use an ice pack, twenty minutes on, twenty minutes off. Have any of > you used this method for joint pains? Or is this a different issue??? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2000 Report Share Posted September 20, 2000 Hi all My daughter also finds it extremely helpfull to have a hot bath. What I was wondering is is there anything (like a homeopathic oil) that I could put in the path to help a little. My mom has a foot spar, and while it probably doesn't do that much physically, gets a real kick out of using it! It kind of distracts her completely from her pain for a while.......... I haven't been around much recently, is there any news on little Molly - the little girl who had the stem cell transplant? Thanks! Ady Ogilvie aogilvie@... > Re: Heat or ice??? > > > <1/8968/3/_/524922/_/969428400/> > > <http://adimg./img/8968/3/_/524922/_/969428400/TargetSports468x > 602F.gif> > eGroups <> My Groups > <mygroups> | Main Page > < > | Start a new group! > <1/8150/3/_/524922/_/969428400/> > > > Hi, > > My son usually finds it very soothing to have a warm bath when his body > is, overall, sore and achey. The warmth seems to help loosen up any > stiffness and get him moving around again more quickly. When it's one > particular joint that is troubling him we always use a wrapped ice pack. > When he has an inflamed joint, the area around it is usually very warm. > Applying ice helps reduce the pain and often, some of the > swelling/inflammation. > > Though we seem to be beyond that stage right now, for a very long time > my son had extremely high fevers that accompanied his systemic JRA. We > were always trying to lower his body temperature, possibly another > reason why I reach for the ice long before considering a source of heat. > However, when he had costochondritis(sp?), inflammation in his rib > cage/chest area that was extremely painful for him, aside from codeine > the thing that helped most was applying a heat compress. I guess it just > depends. > > Take care, > Georgina > > Younge wrote: > > <We also know that heat packs or hot showers can relax the muscles > > around > > the joints and relieve stiffness and pain for some. Conversely, ice > > packs can ease the inflammation in the joints themselves. (bold mine)> > > > > [From article: Whether weather affects arthritis pain] > > > > Okay this may be a really strange question, but I copied this out of > > one of the articles that Georgina sent out. And I've always wondered > > about this. Most everyone on the loop has suggested warm wraps, water > > beds, etc. for joint pain. But, my husband's chiropractor has always > > said to stay away from heat- even though it feels good- because it can > > worsen inflammation and therefore worsen the pain. He's always said to > > use an ice pack, twenty minutes on, twenty minutes off. Have any of > > you used this method for joint pains? Or is this a different issue??? > > > > > > For links to websites with JRA info visit: > <http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Village/8414/Links.html> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2000 Report Share Posted September 20, 2000 Adrienne, I think the spa is great because it circulates the blood more and kind of massages them so keep using it. As far as oils in the bath I always have lavender oil because it relaxes the body and has other properties as well and some clove or birch oil for it's anti-inflammatory properties. Just make sure that you can put it directly in water as I usually apply it to her joints directly. The health food stores have different mixes of bath therapy salts/oils for relieving muscles pain, joint pain, etc. that has the oils I mentioned in it already. Good luck! Tammy Reyes ----Original Message Follows---- From: Adrienne Ogilvie <aogilvie@...> Reply- egroups " ' egroups' " < egroups> Subject: RE: Heat or ice??? Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:24:08 +0200 Hi all My daughter also finds it extremely helpfull to have a hot bath. What I was wondering is is there anything (like a homeopathic oil) that I could put in the path to help a little. My mom has a foot spar, and while it probably doesn't do that much physically, gets a real kick out of using it! It kind of distracts her completely from her pain for a while.......... I haven't been around much recently, is there any news on little Molly - the little girl who had the stem cell transplant? Thanks! Ady Ogilvie aogilvie@... > Re: Heat or ice??? > > > <1/8968/3/_/524922/_/969428400/> > > <http://adimg./img/8968/3/_/524922/_/969428400/TargetSports468x > 602F.gif> > eGroups <> My Groups > <mygroups> | Main Page > < > | Start a new group! > <1/8150/3/_/524922/_/969428400/> > > > Hi, > > My son usually finds it very soothing to have a warm bath when his body > is, overall, sore and achey. The warmth seems to help loosen up any > stiffness and get him moving around again more quickly. When it's one > particular joint that is troubling him we always use a wrapped ice pack. > When he has an inflamed joint, the area around it is usually very warm. > Applying ice helps reduce the pain and often, some of the > swelling/inflammation. > > Though we seem to be beyond that stage right now, for a very long time > my son had extremely high fevers that accompanied his systemic JRA. We > were always trying to lower his body temperature, possibly another > reason why I reach for the ice long before considering a source of heat. > However, when he had costochondritis(sp?), inflammation in his rib > cage/chest area that was extremely painful for him, aside from codeine > the thing that helped most was applying a heat compress. I guess it just > depends. > > Take care, > Georgina > > Younge wrote: > > <We also know that heat packs or hot showers can relax the muscles > > around > > the joints and relieve stiffness and pain for some. Conversely, ice > > packs can ease the inflammation in the joints themselves. (bold mine)> > > > > [From article: Whether weather affects arthritis pain] > > > > Okay this may be a really strange question, but I copied this out of > > one of the articles that Georgina sent out. And I've always wondered > > about this. Most everyone on the loop has suggested warm wraps, water > > beds, etc. for joint pain. But, my husband's chiropractor has always > > said to stay away from heat- even though it feels good- because it can > > worsen inflammation and therefore worsen the pain. He's always said to > > use an ice pack, twenty minutes on, twenty minutes off. Have any of > > you used this method for joint pains? Or is this a different issue??? > > > > > > For links to websites with JRA info visit: > <http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Village/8414/Links.html> > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2000 Report Share Posted September 20, 2000 ADY i am not sure if theres anything you can put in the water but i do know a oil that you can rub on the body and it has great results with feeling warm the sensation its called " seven golden massage oils " by natural solutions i got this from GNC well worth it for my hubby never thought about trying this on melissa maybe this will be what i do next he says it works great i have not heard anything on molly Robbin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2000 Report Share Posted September 20, 2000 I've always been told to use heat for Kelsey. Warm baths work great for her, she has a waterbed, and her pool therapy is in a heated swimming pool, about 92 degrees. The waterbed helps alot too, only we have a hard time getting her to sleep in it, although she is getting better with that. She was going to PT at the " gym " once a week and to pool therapy once a week and she was always miserable after the PT at the gym. After the pool therapy she was tired, but it really helped her pain and swelling. We usually try to get the pool therapy appts. for first thing in the morning.. makes a great start for the day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2000 Report Share Posted September 21, 2000 Thanks - I'm off to a pharmacy that deals specially with this type of thing so I'll mention it! Keep well... Ady Ogilvie tel: 011 686 6013 fax: 011 329 5471 Cell: 083 412 0174 aogilvie@... > Re: Heat or ice??? > > > <1/8974/3/_/524922/_/969470423/> > > <http://adimg./img/8974/3/_/524922/_/969470423/WarningCollectib > les468x602E.gif> > eGroups <> My Groups > <mygroups> | Main Page > < > | Start a new group! > <1/8150/3/_/524922/_/969470428/> > > > ADY > i am not sure if theres anything you can put in the water but i do know a > oil > that you can rub on the body and it has great results with feeling warm > the > sensation > its called " seven golden massage oils " by natural solutions > i got this from GNC well worth it for my hubby > never thought about trying this on melissa maybe this will be what i do > next > he says it works great > i have not heard anything on molly > Robbin > > For links to websites with JRA info visit: > <http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Village/8414/Links.html> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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