Test results

[Guest guest]

Hi Rupa

Been to my GP, (my Endo doesn't want to see me

until April and wants me to see my GP in the meantime) I've kindly asked GP to

up my T3 and he agreed on the basis I have blood test in 6 weeks. Fair enough.

So, I'm now on 20mcgs T3 split twice daily and 50mcgs T4. Previously I was on

10mcgs T3 and 75mcgs T4. Feeling a bit spaced out today, is that because I'm

getting used to the extra T3 and storing less inactive T4??

If you are still feeling 'spaced-out', then I would try to decrease

your dose by 5mcgs. Sometimes, we have to increase T3 very slowly, because it

is the ACTIVE thyroid hormone, and peaks in the blood a couple of hours after

taking it. You could try taking it three times daily, instead of twice - that

might help Do remember that when you next have your blood drawn for your

thyroid function test, do NOT take any T3 for at least 24 hours before the

blood draw. If you take your 3 on the day of your blood draw, this will give a

false reading, and your T3 will probably show very high in the reference range,

and your endo. would probably tell you that you are taking too much and to cut

it down. Many have done this to the patient's detriment.

Luv - Sheila

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your response. I printed it out and will look up how to give ldn.

Thank you!

>

> hashimoto is auto-immune and can be very nasty when the thyroid is

> attacked.when you have one auto-immune ,you have a big chance to develop

> the second and the third auto-immune.look at low dose naltrexone to get the

> auto-immune under control.they use it with small children,autists and crohn

> with transdermal ldn

>

[Guest guest]

Tg Ab is an antibody against the thyroglobulin process.

Here are the inactive ingredients in Synthroid:

Inactive Ingredients: acacia, confectioner's sugar (contains corn starch), lactose monohydrate, magnesium stearate, povidone, and talc

Does he have a food allergy? It has some common issues - corn, lactose.

Steph

Test Results

Hi All,I just got the test results in the mail from my 2.5 yr old son's neurologist.His Thyroglobulin was 13.4 range--- 0.6 to 40.0Thyroglobin AB (antibodies) 20.4 range---0.0 to 14.4So his AB was high. He was on Synthroid during testing. We have taken him off as of last Saturday to see if some of his regression subsides. BTW, he is signing more and seems more social. Plus, oddly he has more energy. What does high TgAB mean? I read on a site Grave's disease or hashimoto, but with Hashi, does it really matter since he already hypo?The neuro is waiting to hear from the endo.Beth

[Guest guest]

TH1 is Hashimotos (low thyroid- normally high TSH value)

TH2 is Graves Disease (hyperthyroid - with suppressed TSH value)

TPO Ab's generally come with Hashimotos. Yes it would be good to see a TSH, Free T3, and Free T4 as well as checking Tg Ab if you haven't already. But you are positive for hashi's it appears. It isn't too high so you may be able to treat it with the iodine protocol only. I have it listed under iodine supplementation on my website. www.naturalthyroidchoices.com

Where are you located? I may have a doctor reference for you. I drive 2 1/2 hours to see my doctor.

Test Results

Could someone please tell me what tests I need to request to establish whether I am TH1 or TH2 dominate for Hashimoto's please? (I think they are the correct terms). I managed to get a medical practitioner to test for TPO Ab which came back positive with a number of 58, so I am assuming that I have Hashimoto's. She had not heard of Hashimoto's but is going to read up about it.

Unfortunately the lab overlooked the requested for the thyroid function tests, so they will have to be re-done, but are they still relevant?

I know ideally I should be seeing a practitioner who deals holistically with Hashimoto's but I can't find one, so the best I could do was to find someone willing to do the tests I asked for.

Also, this practitioner had never heard of saliva tests for cortisol and didn't know how to go about it. The lab who took the blood didn't either. Can someone please tell me more about the saliva tests and why they are better than plasma?

Thanks very much,

[Guest guest]

Thanks .   I " m going to try following the iodine protocol and will get the Brownstein book.   I was a little worried about what I'd read about iodine and Hashis, but feel more okay now about trying it after the recent emails on the subject.   I'll get the TSH, Free T3 and Free T4 done, and try to find a way of getting the adrenals tested.   The TG Ab was apparently normal.   I " m overseas and haven't been able to find a doctor for treatment - the doctor who did the testing wanted to either prescribe a synthetic hormone which of course I " m not going to take.

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 8:37 PM, ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...> wrote:

 

TH1 is Hashimotos  (low thyroid- normally high TSH value)

TH2 is Graves Disease (hyperthyroid - with suppressed TSH value)

 

TPO Ab's generally come with Hashimotos.  Yes it would be good to see a TSH, Free T3, and Free T4 as well as checking Tg Ab if you haven't already.  But you are positive for hashi's it appears.  It isn't too high so you may be able to treat it with the iodine protocol only.  I have it listed under iodine supplementation on my website.  www.naturalthyroidchoices.com

 

Where are you located?  I may have a doctor reference for you.  I drive 2 1/2 hours to see my doctor.

 

 

 

 

Test Results

 

Could someone please tell me what tests I need to request to establish whether I am TH1 or TH2 dominate for Hashimoto's please?   (I think they are the correct terms).   I managed to get a medical practitioner to test for TPO Ab which came back positive with a number of 58, so I am assuming that I have Hashimoto's.   She had not heard of Hashimoto's but is going to read up about it.   

Unfortunately the lab overlooked the requested for the thyroid function tests, so they will have to be re-done, but are they still relevant?

I know ideally I should be seeing a practitioner who deals holistically with Hashimoto's but I can't find one, so the best I could do was to find someone willing to do the tests I asked for.

Also, this practitioner had never heard of saliva tests for cortisol and didn't know how to go about it.   The lab who took the blood didn't either.   Can someone please tell me more about the saliva tests and why they are better than plasma?

Thanks very much,

[Guest guest]

There is a group called NTH Europe or something like that where European members can share info.

Steph

Test Results

Could someone please tell me what tests I need to request to establish whether I am TH1 or TH2 dominate for Hashimoto's please? (I think they are the correct terms). I managed to get a medical practitioner to test for TPO Ab which came back positive with a number of 58, so I am assuming that I have Hashimoto's. She had not heard of Hashimoto's but is going to read up about it.

Unfortunately the lab overlooked the requested for the thyroid function tests, so they will have to be re-done, but are they still relevant?

I know ideally I should be seeing a practitioner who deals holistically with Hashimoto's but I can't find one, so the best I could do was to find someone willing to do the tests I asked for.

Also, this practitioner had never heard of saliva tests for cortisol and didn't know how to go about it. The lab who took the blood didn't either. Can someone please tell me more about the saliva tests and why they are better than plasma?

Thanks very much,

[Guest guest]

Do you know of anything for Australia, Steph?On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:15 PM, ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...> wrote:

 

There is a group called NTH Europe or something like that where European members can share info.

 

Steph

[Guest guest]

Hi Babs, I wouldn't worry about yout T4 result- doc is quite right there, but I would be concerned that with a high T4 you have a low T3- which does indicate that you are not converting sufficiently. Note also that this is total T3 which includes RT3, not the more accurate free T3- so your position may be worse even than it looks. thyroid treatment From: yahso1@...Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:40:17 +0000Subject: Test Results

Hi

I would be grateful if someone with more knowledge than myself would cast an eye over these recent results and give me an opinion. The test from the private clinic has two numbers marked with an *, one number is under range the other above, my GP said that all was well and not to worry about the high Free T4 as NHS range is up to 21 so its acceptable, the NHS Labs refuse to test T3 even when asked by GP.

Many Thanks

Babs

TSH

Free T4

Total T3

NHS- Ref Range

0.35 - 5.00

9.0 - 21.0

0.9 - 2.5

16/03/10

0.39

20.9

-

Private Clinic

0.2 -5.0

8 -14

1.3 -3.1

16/4/10

*0.19

*17.0

1.6

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[Guest guest]

Thank you for taking the time to reply, I plan to do an adrenal saliva

test soon so we will see what that comes up with. Meantime Sheila advised me to

do the Candida Questionaire which I duly did and scored 110 so looks like I have

a detox programme and a strict diet to be getting on with. With the brain-fog

and the fatigue I am experiencing at the moment the information is a little hard

to get my head around.

Thanks again

Babs

Hi Babs,

I wouldn't worry about yout T4 result- doc is quite right there, but

I would be concerned that with a high T4 you have a low T3- which does indicate

that you are not converting sufficiently. Note also that this is total T3 which

includes RT3, not the more accurate free T3-so your position may be worse even

than it looks.

[Guest guest]

Hi Jacki

The turnaround time for the urine test is 10 days but I got mine a bit quicker

than that. They post them to you directly. They do give you a 'commentary' on

the results on the results page but mine didn't mean much to me so I posted them

on here and someone who knows can advise.

I'm not sure if the TPA pack you mention is the info pack - but if it is it's

sent by post so takes a couple of days.

Bunny

>

> Hi again need help,

> I had urine test with Geneva Diagnostics last week and was just wondering how

long it took for results.Next how do I get them as this internet thing (forums

included)is new to me,although I am gradually getting the hang of it I hope.Also

how will I understand them or will someone help me.And last I sent for an

information pack from pta and have not yet recieved it so Ihope I have done it

right .

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi again need help,

> I had urine test with Geneva Diagnostics last week and was just wondering how

long it took for results.

>

Hi Jacki

I had mine tested a few weeks ago and got the results back within a week. If you

post them on here everyone is very helpful

Sam

[Guest guest]

Hu Jacki, Interesting result this- T3 in range, but T4 over range- which therefore shows that you are not converting T4 to T3 very efficiently - are you taking thyroid replacement? > thyroid treatment > From: jacki.dunkley@...> Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 11:31:20 +0000> Subject: test results> > Sorry try to get it rught this time.> It was a 24 hour urine test and results are triiodothyronine(t3)642 ref range592-1850> thyroxine(t4)2376 ref range 347-1994> t3;t4 ratio 0.3 ratio 0.50-2.00 thanks once again Jacki> > > > ------------------------------------> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> >

[Guest guest]

Hi

Yes I am taking levothyroxine at 125 a day and have been for a few years but

lumped four stone on four years ago and cannot shift any of it despite loads of

exercise and diet and have very poor concentration and joint pains which lead me

to this test, but dont understand what the results mean ,thats why I need help

Many thanks Jacki

>

>

> Hu Jacki,

> Interesting result this- T3 in range, but T4 over range- which

therefore shows that you are not converting T4 to T3 very efficiently - are you

taking thyroid replacement?

>

>

> > thyroid treatment

> > From: jacki.dunkley@...

> > Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 11:31:20 +0000

> > Subject: test results

> >

> > Sorry try to get it rught this time.

> > It was a 24 hour urine test and results are triiodothyronine(t3)642 ref

range592-1850

> > thyroxine(t4)2376 ref range 347-1994

> > t3;t4 ratio 0.3 ratio 0.50-2.00 thanks once again Jacki

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical

practitioner before changing medication.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

You might not be converting the mainly inactive hormone

thyroxine (T4) into the active hormone triiodothyronine (T3). There are many

reasons why you are unable to do this, mainly, you could be suffering with

adrenal fatigue, systemic candidiasis, mercury poisoning because of amalgam

fillings, low levels of ferritin, vitamin B12, vitamin D3, magnesium, folate,

copper and zinc. Ask your GP to test your blood for the last 6 mentioned. If

any of these are low in the reference range, the thyroid hormone cannot be

utilised by the cells. You can get a 24 hour salivary adrenal profile done through

Genova Diagnostics (see the FILES section under 'Discounts' to get the

information about these.

To learn about 'associated conditions' that go along with

hypothyroid, go to our web site, click on 'Hypothyroidism' and then click on

'Associated Conditions' in the drop down Menu. Any of these will stop your

thyroid hormone from working efficiently.

Luv - Sheila

> >

> > Sorry try to get it rught this time.

> > It was a 24 hour urine test and results are triiodothyronine(t3)642

ref range592-1850

> > thyroxine(t4)2376 ref range 347-1994

> > t3;t4 ratio 0.3 ratio 0.50-2.00 thanks once again Jacki

> >

> >

> >

> > > >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Hi Jacki, On that result you would most probably do much better with meds containing T3, but you can do quite a lot to help your self by making sure you have sufficient selenium and zinc- both are low in UK soils and are needed for T4 to T3 conversion. Low iron can also be a problem, low thyroid states tend to mean that digestion and absorption may not be a good as it should be. rproblems can be caused by systemic candida and low adrenal function- there's lots of info in the Files on the website to help you there. Get a new e-mail account with Hotmail - Free. Sign-up now.

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Hi Sheila

Thanks for the advice.Ihave been to my doctor today and asked to be tested for

the things you said,and I showed him the test results from my 24 urine sample.He

said he is willing to do blood tests himself as he cannot take those into

account.As for ferritin vit levels etc he said there was no need to extensivly

test as his test would show anything out of the norm. As for the weight issue

and joint pain he said some people are made to be big but can still be healthy

as he see's all sorts in his surgery. I have to go back tomorrow for blood test

sand see doctor next week.I will have to go through with it but wont hold my

breath that I will get any real help.He added as I was leaving, instead of

paying for private test I should have just asked(like I haven't several times in

the last four years).

you could be suffering with adrenal fatigue,

> systemic candidiasis, mercury poisoning because of amalgam fillings, low

> levels of ferritin, vitamin B12, vitamin D3, magnesium, folate, copper and

> zinc. Ask your GP to test your blood for the last 6 mentioned. If any of

> these are low in the reference range, the thyroid hormone cannot be utilised

> by the cells.

[Guest guest]

Thanks I have been to see doctor today and he will do new blood test wont

accept genova ones but says he wont prescribe t3. So it looks as though I will

have to buy my own so I am on files now trying to read up on everything I need

to know dosage etc beforehand.Would the saliva test show candida or be worth

having first do you think .thanks for your help Jacki

>

>

> Hi Jacki,

> On that result you would most probably do much better with meds

containing T3, but you can do quite a lot to help your self by making sure you

have sufficient selenium and zinc- both are low in UK soils and are needed for

T4 to T3 conversion. Low iron can also be a problem, low thyroid states tend to

mean that digestion and absorption may not be a good as it should be. rproblems

can be caused by systemic candida and low adrenal function- there's lots of info

in the Files on the website to help you there.

>

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/197222280/direct/01/

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[Guest guest]

I would like to know what *his* particular test is that

" would show anything out of the norm " . Can you ask him to explain to

you exactly what it DOES test. It does sound as if this particular doctor is

not going to be of very much help to you, in which case, insist on seeing an

endocrinologist of your choice, but first, we will see what his *test* shows

and take it from there.

Luv - Sheila

Thanks for the advice.Ihave been to my doctor today and asked to be tested for

the things you said,and I showed him the test results from my 24 urine

sample.He said he is willing to do blood tests himself as he cannot take those

into account.As for ferritin vit levels etc he said there was no need to

extensivly test as his test would show anything out of the norm. As for the

weight issue and joint pain he said some people are made to be big but can

still be healthy as he see's all sorts in his surgery. I have to go back

tomorrow for blood test sand see doctor next week.I will have to go through

with it but wont hold my breath that I will get any real help.He added as I was

leaving, instead of paying for private test I should have just asked(like I

haven't several times in the last four years).

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheila

Went for blood tests this morning and the nurse greeted me with (are you the

lady who paid for private tests)the word has gone round.After confirming I was

she said dr wanted a large amount as he had ordered extensive tests to be done

and I have to go back and see him on friday to discuss them. no idea whats

bought this on so will keep you posted. thanks again Jacki

>

> I would like to know what *his* particular test is that " would show anything

> out of the norm " . Can you ask him to explain to you exactly what it DOES

> test. It does sound as if this particular doctor is not going to be of very

> much help to you, in which case, insist on seeing an endocrinologist of your

> choice, but first, we will see what his *test* shows and take it from there.

[Guest guest]

Hi Jacki, Your doc may be unwilling but may change his mind if you can get him to refer you to an endo- depending on your new test results. note that all endos are not equal and you need to find one who is an thyroid expert, not diabetes only. yes do lots of reading- one informed you canthen ask the right questions.> thyroid treatment > From: jacki.dunkley@...> Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 14:23:38 +0000> Subject: Re: test results> > Thanks I have been to see doctor today and he will do new blood test wont accept genova ones but says he wont prescribe t3. So it looks as though I will have to buy my own so I am on files now trying to read up on everything I need to know dosage etc beforehand.Would the saliva test show candida or be worth having first do you think .thanks for your help Jacki> > > >> > > > Hi Jacki,> > On that result you would most probably do much better with meds containing T3, but you can do quite a lot to help your self by making sure you have sufficient selenium and zinc- both are low in UK soils and are needed for T4 to T3 conversion. Low iron can also be a problem, low thyroid states tend to mean that digestion and absorption may not be a good as it should be. rproblems can be caused by systemic candida and low adrenal function- there's lots of info in the Files on the website to help you there.> > > > > > _________________________________________________________________> > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/197222280/direct/01/> > Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? Tell us now> >> > > > > ------------------------------------> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> >

[Guest guest]

Wonderful - I would be tempted to take a little notepad so that

you can write down exactly what he has decided to test.

Luv - Sheila

Hi Sheila

Went for blood tests this morning and the nurse greeted me with (are you the

lady who paid for private tests)the word has gone round.After confirming I was

she said dr wanted a large amount as he had ordered extensive tests to be done

and I have to go back and see him on friday to discuss them. no idea whats

bought this on so will keep you posted. thanks again Jacki

[Guest guest]

Donna Vitamin A helps you to absorb D3 but it doesn't take much like 10 or 20% of D3 level you are taking. PamOn Fri, May 28, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Donna Iler <Donna@...> wrote:

 

My family got testing done after about 1 ½ years on the iodine

protocol. I can tell how it has helped all of us. Here are our results:

 

Donna

Test                       Result                   Reference

TSH                        9.93                        0.45 –

4.5

Free T3                 2.8                          2.0 –

4.4

Free T4                 1.03                        0.82 –

1.77

 

I have been off Armour for the past 4 months since I ran out and

haven’t been back to the doctor. I can tell that I still need it, as I

again have the following symptoms:

Thinning hair, thin eyebrows, low libido, finger nails more

fragil, can’t remember things, like my symptoms. I know there are more,

just can’t think of them. But I feel worse not taking the iodine than

when I don’t have the Armour.

 

   18 yrs old

Test                       Result                   Reference

TSH                        3.18                        0.45 –

4.5

Free T3                 3.4                          2.3 –

5.0

Free T4                 1.4                          0.93 –

1.60

 

I was thinking she might be the one with a low thyroid because

she is always cold and tired, but even her frees seem fine. What do you think?

 

na  14 yrs old

Test                       Result                   Reference

TSH                        2.49                        0.45 –

4.5

Free T3                 2.8                          2.3 –

5.0

Free T4                 1.23                        0.93 –

1.60

 

I think na’s frees are too low, but not sure I can

convince the doctor. This is my always hot daughter! But she has chronic

stuffiness that we have been unable to solve with sinus rinses, NAET treatment,

liver cleanse, natural allergy treatment. Making me crazy!

 

Caleb  16 yrs old

Test                       Result                   Reference

TSH                        5.06                        0.45 –

4.5

Free T3                 3.7                          2.3 –

5.0

Free T4                 1.32                        0.93 –

1.60

Ferritin                 54                           30 –

400

Iron                        110                         40 –

155

Hemoglobin       15.2                        11.7 – 15.0

Hematocrit         44.0                        34.8 – 43.5

Neutrophils        27                           40 – 70

Lymphs                51                           20 – 47

Eos                         0.5                          0.0 -

..04

 

I did a CBC panel on him, because we are going to the doctor to

work on bed wetting. I am somewhat hopeful that now seeing his thyroid is low,

that Armour would help, since it has other’s children. I was surprised by

the low ferritin and low neutrophils. The low neutrophils can indicate a B12/folic

acid deficiency, so will work on that, and have to review what to do for

ferritin, iron seems ok.

 

My husbands tests were very good, did the CBC and thyroid. His

thyroid is great only concerns are:

 

 low neutrophils – 1.7 reference 1.8 – 7.

 low vitamin D – 29.5, reference 32.0 – 100.0

 

He has had cellulitis twice in his left foot, and we want to

prevent another round. He has been taking 4000 – 5000 iu most everyday

for the past year+, so this low level concerns me. Will up his magnesium, and

can’t remember what the other thing to help absorbtion of vit D is. I

will have to work on B12/folic adic for him also.

 

We all did month long liver cleanses in March also.

 

Any thoughts, ideas?

 

Thanks!

Donna in IL

[Guest guest]

My comments are below.

Steph

Test results

My family got testing done after about 1 ½ years on the iodine protocol. I can tell how it has helped all of us. Here are our results:

Donna

Test Result Reference

TSH 9.93 0.45 – 4.5

Free T3 2.8 2.0 – 4.4 (I feel best at a level of around 4.0 so you probably need some thyroid meds)

Free T4 1.03 0.82 – 1.77 (This is low too. Mine is around 1.4)

I have been off Armour for the past 4 months since I ran out and haven’t been back to the doctor. I can tell that I still need it, as I again have the following symptoms:

Thinning hair, thin eyebrows, low libido, finger nails more fragil, can’t remember things, like my symptoms. I know there are more, just can’t think of them. But I feel worse not taking the iodine than when I don’t have the Armour.

18 yrs old

Test Result Reference

TSH 3.18 0.45 – 4.5

Free T3 3.4 2.3 – 5.0

Free T4 1.4 0.93 – 1.60

Her levels look like my children's on thyroid meds. Have you checked iron, ferritin and b12 status on her? How about Vit D3? It could be something else making her tired. Thyroid doesn't look too bad.

I was thinking she might be the one with a low thyroid because she is always cold and tired, but even her frees seem fine. What do you think?

na 14 yrs old

Test Result Reference

TSH 2.49 0.45 – 4.5

Free T3 2.8 2.3 – 5.0

Free T4 1.23 0.93 – 1.60

She may be able to be treated with thyroid supporting nutrients like zinc, vit a, selenium, magnesium, vit c, celtic salt, iodine. Her frees are a bit low. I would try supplements first. I never want to run to thyroid meds before trying to heal the body first. Does she have amalgam fillings? That can be part of the problem if she does.

I think na’s frees are too low, but not sure I can convince the doctor. This is my always hot daughter! But she has chronic stuffiness that we have been unable to solve with sinus rinses, NAET treatment, liver cleanse, natural allergy treatment. Making me crazy!

Caleb 16 yrs old

Test Result Reference

TSH 5.06 0.45 – 4.5

Free T3 3.7 2.3 – 5.0

Free T4 1.32 0.93 – 1.60

Ferritin 54 30 – 400

Iron 110 40 – 155

Hemoglobin 15.2 11.7 – 15.0

Hematocrit 44.0 34.8 – 43.5

Neutrophils 27 40 – 70

Lymphs 51 20 – 47

Eos 0.5 0.0 - .04

I did a CBC panel on him, because we are going to the doctor to work on bed wetting. I am somewhat hopeful that now seeing his thyroid is low, that Armour would help, since it has other’s children. I was surprised by the low ferritin and low neutrophils. The low neutrophils can indicate a B12/folic acid deficiency, so will work on that, and have to review what to do for ferritin, iron seems ok.

His thyroid levels look OK - again they are like my children who are treated with thyroid hormones. Ranges for children are quite high. Not sure why. Ferritin is normally good between 50-60. Your range goes really high too. Iron is good. If you are concerned try adding a B6 complex - this helps with iron issues. B12 deficiencies are common in children / adolescents becuase thier growth utilizes more iron and b12.

My husbands tests were very good, did the CBC and thyroid. His thyroid is great only concerns are:

low neutrophils – 1.7 reference 1.8 – 7.

low vitamin D – 29.5, reference 32.0 – 100.0

His vit D does need to be boosted. 50-70 is the target. Does he spend time outside? That will help him if he does as we are coming into the summer months.

He has had cellulitis twice in his left foot, and we want to prevent another round. He has been taking 4000 – 5000 iu most everyday for the past year+, so this low level concerns me. Will up his magnesium, and can’t remember what the other thing to help absorbtion of vit D is. I will have to work on B12/folic adic for him also.

We all did month long liver cleanses in March also.

Any thoughts, ideas?

Thanks!

Donna in IL

[Guest guest]

Hi Steph!

I have some general questions in response to your answers. While

my children’s levels look llike your children’s level, mine are

full size adults, all of them bigger than me, so shouldn’t they be

measured like adults? Especially my 16 yr old, who is 5’10”,

142lbs., solid muscle from gymnastics. I am hoping to get him on Armour  very

soon to see if that is the cause of his bed wetting. Neither of his frees are

in the top 1/3 range, and his TSH is high. We have been on iodine for well over

a year, so shouldn’t our TSH levels have gone back down from the effects

of iodine? He has ADD type symptoms, poor handwriting, struggles with book

learning and the bed wetting. It was encouraging for me to hear how many people

on this loop had big improvements in those areas after their children’s

thyroid was treated. After almost 21 years of bedwetting among 4 children, and

this preventing my very active 16 year old from doing many things, I would

really like to see an end to this!

We have all been on the full iodine protocol for over a year,

including vit D, vit A, lots of celtic salt, we grind our own grain for cooking,

so we have been trying to heal with nutrients first. How long would I wait

until moving to Armour or something else? I think only 1 of my children has any

fillings, and it is a white one.

The ranges are all from test I ordered from healthcheck USA. There

is a note under the ferritin info that says: “Please note reference

interval change.”

They must have just recently changed this. My husband’s

ferritin level measured at 316 in the range of 30 – 400.

Thanks for your thoughts!

Donna

My comments are below.

Steph

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Original Message -----

From: Donna Iler

iodine

Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010

2:36 PM

Subject: Test

results

My family got testing done after about 1

½ years on the iodine protocol. I can tell how it has helped all of us. Here

are our results:

Donna

Test

Result

Reference

TSH

9.93

0.45 – 4.5

Free

T3

2.8

2.0 – 4.4 (I feel best at a level of around 4.0 so you

probably need some thyroid meds)

Free

T4

1.03

0.82 – 1.77 (This

is low too. Mine is around 1.4)

I have been off Armour for the past 4

months since I ran out and haven’t been back to the doctor. I can tell

that I still need it, as I again have the following symptoms:

Thinning hair, thin eyebrows, low

libido, finger nails more fragil, can’t remember things, like my

symptoms. I know there are more, just can’t think of them. But I feel

worse not taking the iodine than when I don’t have the Armour.

18 yrs old

Test

Result

Reference

TSH

3.18

0.45 – 4.5

Free

T3

3.4

2.3 – 5.0

Free

T4

1.4

0.93 – 1.60

Her levels look like my children's on

thyroid meds. Have you checked iron, ferritin and b12 status on

her? How about Vit D3? It could be something else making her

tired. Thyroid doesn't look too bad.

I was thinking she might be the one with

a low thyroid because she is always cold and tired, but even her frees seem

fine. What do you think?

na 14 yrs old

Test

Result

Reference

TSH

2.49

0.45 – 4.5

Free

T3

2.8

2.3 – 5.0

Free

T4

1.23

0.93 – 1.60

She may be able to be treated with thyroid

supporting nutrients like zinc, vit a, selenium, magnesium, vit c, celtic salt,

iodine. Her frees are a bit low. I would try supplements

first. I never want to run to thyroid meds before trying to heal the body

first. Does she have amalgam fillings? That can be part of the

problem if she does.

I think na’s frees are too

low, but not sure I can convince the doctor. This is my always hot daughter!

But she has chronic stuffiness that we have been unable to solve with sinus

rinses, NAET treatment, liver cleanse, natural allergy treatment. Making me

crazy!

Caleb 16 yrs old

Test

Result

Reference

TSH

5.06

0.45 – 4.5

Free

T3

3.7

2.3 – 5.0

Free

T4

1.32

0.93 – 1.60

Ferritin

54

30 – 400

Iron

110

40 – 155

Hemoglobin

15.2

11.7 – 15.0

Hematocrit

44.0

34.8 – 43.5

Neutrophils

27

40 – 70

Lymphs

51

20 – 47

Eos

0.5

0.0 - .04

I did a CBC panel on him, because we are

going to the doctor to work on bed wetting. I am somewhat hopeful that now

seeing his thyroid is low, that Armour would help, since it has other’s

children. I was surprised by the low ferritin and low neutrophils. The low

neutrophils can indicate a B12/folic acid deficiency, so will work on that, and

have to review what to do for ferritin, iron seems ok.

His thyroid levels look OK - again they are

like my children who are treated with thyroid hormones. Ranges for

children are quite high. Not sure why. Ferritin is normally good

between 50-60. Your range goes really high too. Iron is good.

If you are concerned try adding a B6 complex - this helps with iron

issues. B12 deficiencies are common in children / adolescents

becuase thier growth utilizes more iron and b12.

My husbands tests were very good, did

the CBC and thyroid. His thyroid is great only concerns are:

low neutrophils – 1.7

reference 1.8 – 7.

low vitamin D – 29.5,

reference 32.0 – 100.0

His vit D does need to be boosted.

50-70 is the target. Does he spend time outside? That will help him

if he does as we are coming into the summer months.

He has had cellulitis twice in his left

foot, and we want to prevent another round. He has been taking 4000 –

5000 iu most everyday for the past year+, so this low level concerns me. Will

up his magnesium, and can’t remember what the other thing to help

absorbtion of vit D is. I will have to work on B12/folic adic for him also.

We all did month long liver cleanses in

March also.

Any thoughts, ideas?

Thanks!

Donna in IL

[Guest guest]

Have you read Dr. Mark Starr's book on Hypothyroidism Type 2? I suggest you read it. It will answer your questions. You son may benefit from some desiccated thyroid - not sure if I would go the armour route since many have issues since reformulation. Dr. Starr addresses when to treat vs looking at labs. Also issues with gluten and dairy can be a cause of nocturnal enuresis.

Steph

Test results

My family got testing done after about 1 ½ years on the iodine protocol. I can tell how it has helped all of us. Here are our results:

Donna

Test Result Reference

TSH 9.93 0.45 – 4.5

Free T3 2.8 2.0 – 4.4 (I feel best at a level of around 4.0 so you probably need some thyroid meds)

Free T4 1.03 0.82 – 1.77 (This is low too. Mine is around 1.4)

I have been off Armour for the past 4 months since I ran out and haven’t been back to the doctor. I can tell that I still need it, as I again have the following symptoms:

Thinning hair, thin eyebrows, low libido, finger nails more fragil, can’t remember things, like my symptoms. I know there are more, just can’t think of them. But I feel worse not taking the iodine than when I don’t have the Armour.

18 yrs old

Test Result Reference

TSH 3.18 0.45 – 4.5

Free T3 3.4 2.3 – 5.0

Free T4 1.4 0.93 – 1.60

Her levels look like my children's on thyroid meds. Have you checked iron, ferritin and b12 status on her? How about Vit D3? It could be something else making her tired. Thyroid doesn't look too bad.

I was thinking she might be the one with a low thyroid because she is always cold and tired, but even her frees seem fine. What do you think?

na 14 yrs old

Test Result Reference

TSH 2.49 0.45 – 4.5

Free T3 2.8 2.3 – 5.0

Free T4 1.23 0.93 – 1.60

She may be able to be treated with thyroid supporting nutrients like zinc, vit a, selenium, magnesium, vit c, celtic salt, iodine. Her frees are a bit low. I would try supplements first. I never want to run to thyroid meds before trying to heal the body first. Does she have amalgam fillings? That can be part of the problem if she does.

I think na’s frees are too low, but not sure I can convince the doctor. This is my always hot daughter! But she has chronic stuffiness that we have been unable to solve with sinus rinses, NAET treatment, liver cleanse, natural allergy treatment. Making me crazy!

Caleb 16 yrs old

Test Result Reference

TSH 5.06 0.45 – 4.5

Free T3 3.7 2.3 – 5.0

Free T4 1.32 0.93 – 1.60

Ferritin 54 30 – 400

Iron 110 40 – 155

Hemoglobin 15.2 11.7 – 15.0

Hematocrit 44.0 34.8 – 43.5

Neutrophils 27 40 – 70

Lymphs 51 20 – 47

Eos 0.5 0.0 - .04

I did a CBC panel on him, because we are going to the doctor to work on bed wetting. I am somewhat hopeful that now seeing his thyroid is low, that Armour would help, since it has other’s children. I was surprised by the low ferritin and low neutrophils. The low neutrophils can indicate a B12/folic acid deficiency, so will work on that, and have to review what to do for ferritin, iron seems ok.

His thyroid levels look OK - again they are like my children who are treated with thyroid hormones. Ranges for children are quite high. Not sure why. Ferritin is normally good between 50-60. Your range goes really high too. Iron is good. If you are concerned try adding a B6 complex - this helps with iron issues. B12 deficiencies are common in children / adolescents becuase thier growth utilizes more iron and b12.

My husbands tests were very good, did the CBC and thyroid. His thyroid is great only concerns are:

low neutrophils – 1.7 reference 1.8 – 7.

low vitamin D – 29.5, reference 32.0 – 100.0

His vit D does need to be boosted. 50-70 is the target. Does he spend time outside? That will help him if he does as we are coming into the summer months.

He has had cellulitis twice in his left foot, and we want to prevent another round. He has been taking 4000 – 5000 iu most everyday for the past year+, so this low level concerns me. Will up his magnesium, and can’t remember what the other thing to help absorbtion of vit D is. I will have to work on B12/folic adic for him also.

We all did month long liver cleanses in March also.

Any thoughts, ideas?

Thanks!

Donna in IL