Guest guest Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 I meant that these two times are good to exercise. I haven't exercised since 12.23.02 ABO Specifics Inc. - http://www.foodforyourblood.com exercise Thansk, , Do you exercise twice a day? Is there a specific reason to exercise in the afternoon? I've heard that exercising in the afternoon will help you sleep better. I have more time to exercise in the morning usually. I try to exercise for 1 hour every day.... though I skip a day here and there... - T > Times to exercise > > 1 - to burn fat, do it first thing in the morning. You will burn 3 times > as much fat > > 2 - 5pm to 8pm > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 I have found my soul mate in November of 2002, although that is not exactly the right word. " " My equal " " is more appropriate. ABO Specifics Inc. - http://www.foodforyourblood.com exercise Thansk, , Do you exercise twice a day? Is there a specific reason to exercise in the afternoon? I've heard that exercising in the afternoon will help you sleep better. I have more time to exercise in the morning usually. I try to exercise for 1 hour every day.... though I skip a day here and there... - T > Times to exercise > > 1 - to burn fat, do it first thing in the morning. You will burn 3 times > as much fat > > 2 - 5pm to 8pm > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 Hmmm. I am missing the connection between finding your soul mate and not exercising for a little over a year and a half. I thought exercise greatly enhanced nutrient absorption among many other benefits. Do you have a secret way to not need exercise or have you just not wanted to any longer now that you have a soul mate you have found? If I'm asking too much there's no need to reply, but understand, I'm just curious. _____ From: THOMAS DEKANY [mailto:tdekany@...] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 8:57 PM Subject: RE: exercise I have found my soul mate in November of 2002, although that is not exactly the right word. " " My equal " " is more appropriate. ABO Specifics Inc. - http://www.foodforyourblood.com exercise Thansk, , Do you exercise twice a day? Is there a specific reason to exercise in the afternoon? I've heard that exercising in the afternoon will help you sleep better. I have more time to exercise in the morning usually. I try to exercise for 1 hour every day.... though I skip a day here and there... - T > Times to exercise > > 1 - to burn fat, do it first thing in the morning. You will burn 3 times > as much fat > > 2 - 5pm to 8pm > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2004 Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 Another thought on exercise. WATER!! Some of the problems people experience are because of dehydration. And drinking some water right before or during exercise will not fix dehydration. Remember: your body needs new water every hour! every day! Tamara <tamaratornado@...> wrote: Thansk, , Do you exercise twice a day? Is there a specific reason to exercise in the afternoon? I've heard that exercising in the afternoon will help you sleep better. I have more time to exercise in the morning usually. I try to exercise for 1 hour every day.... though I skip a day here and there... - T > Times to exercise > > 1 - to burn fat, do it first thing in the morning. You will burn 3 times > as much fat > > 2 - 5pm to 8pm > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 So what did he do on the other 4 days? > A guy was terribly overweight, so his doctor put him on a diet. > > " I want you to eat regularly for 2 days, then skip a day, and repeat this > procedure for 2 weeks. The next time I see you, you'll have lost at > least 5 pounds. " > > When the guy returned, he shocked the doctor by losing nearly 20 POUNDS! > > " Why, that's amazing! " the doctor said, " Did you follow my instructions? " > > He nodded... " I'll tell you though, I thought I was going to drop > dead that 3rd day. " > > " From hunger, you mean? " > > " No, from skipping !!! " > > > This guy may not have been a bandster, but he got the idea on > exercise....though I wouldn't recommend that much the first day > or two....but it does make a difference, a big one. > > dan > > Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@g... www.mylapband.tk > Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03 > 323/209/199 Age 61 Fair is whatever God decides to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 Oops sorry, should have read the message properly. > > A guy was terribly overweight, so his doctor put him on a diet. > > > > " I want you to eat regularly for 2 days, then skip a day, and > repeat this > > procedure for 2 weeks. The next time I see you, you'll have lost at > > least 5 pounds. " > > > > When the guy returned, he shocked the doctor by losing nearly 20 > POUNDS! > > > > " Why, that's amazing! " the doctor said, " Did you follow my > instructions? " > > > > He nodded... " I'll tell you though, I thought I was going to drop > > dead that 3rd day. " > > > > " From hunger, you mean? " > > > > " No, from skipping !!! " > > > > > > This guy may not have been a bandster, but he got the idea on > > exercise....though I wouldn't recommend that much the first day > > or two....but it does make a difference, a big one. > > > > dan > > > > Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@g... www.mylapband.tk > > Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03 > > 323/209/199 Age 61 Fair is whatever God decides to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 > repeat this procedure for 2 weeks > > A guy was terribly overweight, so his doctor put him on a diet. > > > > " I want you to eat regularly for 2 days, then skip a day, and > repeat this > > procedure for 2 weeks. The next time I see you, you'll have lost at > > least 5 pounds. " > > > > When the guy returned, he shocked the doctor by losing nearly 20 > POUNDS! > > > > " Why, that's amazing! " the doctor said, " Did you follow my > instructions? " > > > > He nodded... " I'll tell you though, I thought I was going to drop > > dead that 3rd day. " > > > > " From hunger, you mean? " > > > > " No, from skipping !!! " > > > > > > This guy may not have been a bandster, but he got the idea on > > exercise....though I wouldn't recommend that much the first day > > or two....but it does make a difference, a big one. > > > > dan > > > > Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@g... www.mylapband.tk > > Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03 > > 323/209/199 Age 61 Fair is whatever God decides to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 I Like This! It is my mantra also. Just getting out the door is sometimes the hardest part. Darla judedarrow@... wrote: > ....Mandatory Rule #1 -- Exercise 6 days a week for the rest of your > life. The big thing is TO GO. Just keep showing up, no matter what, > just keep showing up. So now every morning when my alarm goes off at > 5:30 a.m (vs my old 7:00 a.m.), I tell myself to get up and GO, to > just show up. .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 Save your pennies for a VCR. OR ask ex hubby to buy one for the kids of course. LOL Luckily they are cheap. Then you can always rent. If you have on demand check out if you have fittv. They have many 1/2 hr exercise segments. Different people doing them. Buy a $4 pedometer at walmart and walk. I know depending on where you live the weather BUT that will be changing soon to. Use soup cans for your arms do so many on each arm. If I think of anything else I will holler. NHMom to Abby Liz 10/25/94 Anne 7/1/99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2005 Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 Hi Amy! I'm WAY WAY behind in my email, but thought I'd read a few of the more recent posts... Welcome to the group by the way A quick suggestion for getting a vcr or dvd player.. go to Freecycle.org and search for a group in your area, sign up and watch for one to be offered. I know there have been several VCR's lately on the groups I'm on a few DVD players here and there... best of luck! a > I do not have a vcr and i don't have a DVD player yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 I brought up the topic because Curves seems to have a few good things going for it. 1) It is good for socializing. 2) My daughter, looking over my shoulder, mentioned that " its fun! " 3) Low impact 4) Circuit training (a machine (hydraulic cylinders give you resistance, similar to exercising in water) followed by a recovery station, then another machine, etc.) You basically go from station to station, for 30 minutes, about 30 seconds per station. If you can't use the machine at a station, just skip that station. 5) No pressure as far as speed, number of repetitions, etc. 6) No social pressure. You come in your sweats, jeans, whatever. (They do encourage you to have something besides your street shoes, though.) Males are very rarely present. (Legally, if a male wants to sign up, he has to be allowed, although the " For Women " in the store name probably takes care of that issue. 7) I've been using one for a couple of months now. I've been feeling good (so far). I haven't had any of the problems that I got when I, err, forget to do my exercises at home. There is one machine that I skip and another that I use in a modified form. I've been using the club because... 8) (Disclosure time)...my wife bought a franchise. I go in during the off-hours. But, since I have some of the same back issues as you, I thought I'd give it a try. (My wife also uses me as the token " person with back issues " .) 9) Don't you hate when people number each item in a list? :-) I know that this isn't for everybody. But with your doctor's permission, it might be for some of you. P.S. I've just been told that the franchise is now " Curves " because some states don't allow the " For Women " part. Sigh > > " I don't know about a Curves For Women. " > > I am quite behind here but wanted to comment on this issue. I joined Curves for Women about 4 weeks ago, after canceling my appt. with Dr. Farcy and deciding I wasn't in shape for surgery anyway so I might as well get in shape, then get the good news. Anyhow, I love it. There is very little I cannot do and I am fused T5 to sacrum, 2 H Rods. I never have any discomfort while I am working out and the one and only thing I just don't do there is one of their stretches where you lay on your back and lift your legs up. Only because i know my back and that would keep me on the floor for a good hour. I actually have much more self esteem too. I can't explain the problem that I have. It is like my one rod will lock and I am stuck almost in a leaning back position. Can't walk, can't sit, nothing. But within 10-15 minutes, it loosens up and I am fine again. That happens almost everyone day up to 2 times a day. Since I started at Curves, it never happened at all, until I was home with strep > throat this week. So, I think it is a good program, after all that babbling! You work at your own level. The ladies at my particular Curves are wonderful, know my situation and help out as best they can. One of them is a massage therapist also and she has gone as far as looking flatback up and trying to understand my body more so she can help me. So, I hope this will answer any questions or make good reading for someone! Thanks. > > Health to all, > > Colleen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 , My sister tried one in PA and really liked it. About 10 years ago I went to a Bally's for awhile. The only part I liked besides the treadmills were the machines where almost nothing moved. This is good to know about Curves. If I ever come into some money (ha ha) I'll have to look into it. And no, I don't hate your numbers, I rather like it! Txbluebelle > > I brought up the topic because Curves seems to have a few good > things going for it. > > 1) It is good for socializing. > > 2) My daughter, looking over my shoulder, mentioned that " its fun! " > > 3) Low impact > > 4) Circuit training (a machine (hydraulic cylinders give you > resistance, similar to exercising in water) followed by a recovery > station, then another machine, etc.) You basically go from station > to station, for 30 minutes, about 30 seconds per station. If you > can't use the machine at a station, just skip that station. > > 5) No pressure as far as speed, number of repetitions, etc. > > 6) No social pressure. You come in your sweats, jeans, whatever. > (They do encourage you to have something besides your street shoes, > though.) Males are very rarely present. (Legally, if a male wants > to sign up, he has to be allowed, although the " For Women " in the > store name probably takes care of that issue. > > 7) I've been using one for a couple of months now. I've been > feeling good (so far). I haven't had any of the problems that I got > when I, err, forget to do my exercises at home. There is one > machine that I skip and another that I use in a modified form. > > I've been using the club because... > > 8) (Disclosure time)...my wife bought a franchise. I go in during > the off-hours. But, since I have some of the same back issues as > you, I thought I'd give it a try. (My wife also uses me as the > token " person with back issues " .) > > 9) Don't you hate when people number each item in a list? :-) > > I know that this isn't for everybody. But with your doctor's > permission, it might be for some of you. > > > > P.S. I've just been told that the franchise is now " Curves " because > some states don't allow the " For Women " part. Sigh > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 I have a great physical therapist, who not only makes house calls, but also goes to the gym with me to show me which machines I can safely use, and then to progress me in different free weights... Not only is it great to make sure I'm going because I know she'll expect to see progress, but I also feel safer doing exercises that have been PT approved! Carolyn Re: Exercise I brought up the topic because Curves seems to have a few good things going for it. 1) It is good for socializing. 2) My daughter, looking over my shoulder, mentioned that " its fun! " 3) Low impact 4) Circuit training (a machine (hydraulic cylinders give you resistance, similar to exercising in water) followed by a recovery station, then another machine, etc.) You basically go from station to station, for 30 minutes, about 30 seconds per station. If you can't use the machine at a station, just skip that station. 5) No pressure as far as speed, number of repetitions, etc. 6) No social pressure. You come in your sweats, jeans, whatever. (They do encourage you to have something besides your street shoes, though.) Males are very rarely present. (Legally, if a male wants to sign up, he has to be allowed, although the " For Women " in the store name probably takes care of that issue. 7) I've been using one for a couple of months now. I've been feeling good (so far). I haven't had any of the problems that I got when I, err, forget to do my exercises at home. There is one machine that I skip and another that I use in a modified form. I've been using the club because... 8) (Disclosure time)...my wife bought a franchise. I go in during the off-hours. But, since I have some of the same back issues as you, I thought I'd give it a try. (My wife also uses me as the token " person with back issues " .) 9) Don't you hate when people number each item in a list? :-) I know that this isn't for everybody. But with your doctor's permission, it might be for some of you. P.S. I've just been told that the franchise is now " Curves " because some states don't allow the " For Women " part. Sigh > > " I don't know about a Curves For Women. " > > I am quite behind here but wanted to comment on this issue. I joined Curves for Women about 4 weeks ago, after canceling my appt. with Dr. Farcy and deciding I wasn't in shape for surgery anyway so I might as well get in shape, then get the good news. Anyhow, I love it. There is very little I cannot do and I am fused T5 to sacrum, 2 H Rods. I never have any discomfort while I am working out and the one and only thing I just don't do there is one of their stretches where you lay on your back and lift your legs up. Only because i know my back and that would keep me on the floor for a good hour. I actually have much more self esteem too. I can't explain the problem that I have. It is like my one rod will lock and I am stuck almost in a leaning back position. Can't walk, can't sit, nothing. But within 10-15 minutes, it loosens up and I am fine again. That happens almost everyone day up to 2 times a day. Since I started at Curves, it never happened at all, until I was home with strep > throat this week. So, I think it is a good program, after all that babbling! You work at your own level. The ladies at my particular Curves are wonderful, know my situation and help out as best they can. One of them is a massage therapist also and she has gone as far as looking flatback up and trying to understand my body more so she can help me. So, I hope this will answer any questions or make good reading for someone! Thanks. > > Health to all, > > Colleen Support for scoliosis-surgery veterans with Harrington Rod Malalignment Syndrome. Not medical advice. Group does not control ads or endorse any advertised products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 I've heard really good things about the curves here in Brighton, MA (Boston). As you know Boston is a college town, so for us gals that are getting a bit older, many health clubs can be intimidating-not to mention costly! I wish your wife well with her new opportunity! Ann --------------------------------- Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 It won't work as well as HIIT simply because of the hours later afterburn that HIIT provides. By all means enjoy those activities. They burn calories. The HIIT is what will melt the fat like butter though. Stasia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Thank you for your reply. Is HIIT what he talks about in the book? It's been a while since I read it, I guess I need to read it again. Do you think walking/jogging on the treadmill would be better? I'm sorry to sound so dumb but I've never really been on an exercise program before but I sure am looking forward to the benefits/changes. Kayla > > It won't work as well as HIIT simply because of the hours later > afterburn that HIIT provides. By all means enjoy those activities. > They burn calories. The HIIT is what will melt the fat like butter > though. > > Stasia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 In a message dated 1/11/06 7:48:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mama7122003@... writes: plus i had to clean house this morning for insepction Who inspects your house? That would be to much pressure for me to know someone was inspecting my house. Well, I know the in laws do. LOL NH... Mom to Abby Liz 10/94 Anne 7/99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 the housing authority over the place i live in. when they come to spray for pests, one of the girls from the office some through and look through our house to make sure it isnt a mess or dirty if it is then you are called on for a full house inspection and if they do not like what they see then you'll have three days to clean it up or you'll be evicted. soo every month when it is time for them to come around i have to scrub the entire house spotless so they wont find something to do an inspection for. i hate it and my gfamily will be moving out soon thank goodness. tammyJase4567@... wrote: In a message dated 1/11/06 7:48:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mama7122003@... writes: plus i had to clean house this morning for insepction Who inspects your house? That would be to much pressure for me to know someone was inspecting my house. Well, I know the in laws do. LOL NH... Mom to Abby Liz 10/94 Anne 7/99 Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 I like the good old leg lifts, and I do them every which way, straight up, and laying on each side. Plus I do them sitting up and just lifting about an inch off the floor. I think I am up to about 4 pounds with the ankle weights. Thanks to someone on the list, I also think squeezing a ball between my knees has been very helpful. I avoid anything that hurts. The wall squats I always dreaded at therapy, and never did them at home. I loved the leg press at the therapists because they had a nice one. The one I have at home I was concerned was hurting me so I quit for a while and have just recently started back to doing that and it's going great. I feel a lot stronger now, but still have a ways to go. I do the treadmill for 30 minutes a day about 5 times a week. With all the things I am doing, I wonder why I don't have thighs of steel. Instead all I have is flab, and it just doesn't seem right! Oh well, maybe I really need to do more, but at this point I already spend a lot of time with my exercises. I do them on my good leg too. Exercise Just to get some ideas........what are some of people's favorite exercises? Which ones make your knee(s) feel better, which ones make you run for the advil bottle?? To start - I like to swim, and find that static weight machines (except for the knee extension one) make me feel pretty good. The elliptical is ok, the rowing machine works well to keep flexion in my knee. I use the tread mill for very short periods and then do sideways walking and backwards walking....both seem to keep the knee " loose " . While road cycling seems to be ok, stationary biking hurts like the dickens and my knee always feels " out of whack " afterwards (this, one different types of bikes.....) nne -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.4/375 - Release Date: 6/25/2006 __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Hello Sydney, I improved mine with swimming (which I ain't doing right now), but got mine up to 70% when going to the pool 3 times a week. Feels great. Does not hurt and you don't sweat. Muscles improve greatly. Best of luck! Becca Sydney <autumnmoon.one@...> wrote: Hi Everyone, My heart was severely damaged during chemo therapy in 2003 and I just discovered that in Dec of last year. My ICD was implanted 1/27/06. My heart pumps at 20%. I finished cardiac rehab a few weeks ago and am now trying to exercise on my own. I go to Curves for Women three days a week. I have to work very hard there to keep my target heart rate where it should be for the entire work out. I need to know if anyone with similar heart damage has improved their heart health with exercise. Thanks, Sydney How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 HI, I don't know how you get your EF up , mine is 15% ,although I am walking around 2 miles a day in the florida heat. Nothing seems to help. Maybe I should try swimming. Thanks for the thoughts, Parish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 Thank you everyone for the input on exercising. I hope I will strengthen my heart, but if not - at least it makes me feel better. Sydney Re: Exercise Hello Sydney, I improved mine with swimming (which I ain't doing right now), but got mine up to 70% when going to the pool 3 times a week. Feels great. Does not hurt and you don't sweat. Muscles improve greatly. Best of luck! Becca Sydney <autumnmoon.one@...> wrote: Hi Everyone, My heart was severely damaged during chemo therapy in 2003 and I just discovered that in Dec of last year. My ICD was implanted 1/27/06. My heart pumps at 20%. I finished cardiac rehab a few weeks ago and am now trying to exercise on my own. I go to Curves for Women three days a week. I have to work very hard there to keep my target heart rate where it should be for the entire work out. I need to know if anyone with similar heart damage has improved their heart health with exercise. Thanks, Sydney How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 Thank you everyone for the input on exercising. I hope I will strengthen my heart, but if not - at least it makes me feel better. Sydney Re: Exercise Hello Sydney, I improved mine with swimming (which I ain't doing right now), but got mine up to 70% when going to the pool 3 times a week. Feels great. Does not hurt and you don't sweat. Muscles improve greatly. Best of luck! Becca Sydney <autumnmoon.one@...> wrote: Hi Everyone, My heart was severely damaged during chemo therapy in 2003 and I just discovered that in Dec of last year. My ICD was implanted 1/27/06. My heart pumps at 20%. I finished cardiac rehab a few weeks ago and am now trying to exercise on my own. I go to Curves for Women three days a week. I have to work very hard there to keep my target heart rate where it should be for the entire work out. I need to know if anyone with similar heart damage has improved their heart health with exercise. Thanks, Sydney How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 In a message dated 8/17/2006 8:08:15 AM Pacific Standard Time, susang3@... writes: I really envy those people who love exercise..... and he still looks like he did in the 1960's, so all that exercise *must* be good for *something*. LOL and I think it was a comment aimed to me at liking exercise. "NO" comes to mind - I am still in the "hate it" stage and look for any excuse I can to get out of it... I just know it needs to be done and I *do* feel better afterward.... someone here is/was doing hypnosis - Miss got a weight loss hypnosis CD to listen to and I love it... I listen to it as I am going to bed at night and I like her voice and the talk about eating, exercise and drinking water... might have to expand my library of discs :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 > LOL and I think it was a comment aimed to me at liking exercise. Ya think? LOL >I just know it needs to be done and I *do* feel better > afterward.... It also helps that you have a nice place to go to *do* your exercise, and that you don't have those traumatic memories of gym class like I do. LOL Did you guys watch The Simpsons episode with the gym teacher who whacks everybody with the ball and yells our " Bombardment!! " ? Now *that* is close ot how our gym teachers acted. The female teachers I had in high school weren't much better. >someone here is/was doing hypnosis - Miss got a weight loss > hypnosis CD to listen to and I love it... I still have mine in the shopping cart on Amazon. One of these days I can talk Ed into spending $20 on the cd. I listen to it as I am going to bed > at night and I like her voice and the talk about eating, exercise and drinking > water... That one sounds better than the one I had/will get. Too bad I can't hear and comprehend many female voices, especially on cd's and without my hearing aids, so it would a waste of money to me. Sue in NJ who thinks closed captioning is even better than sliced bread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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