Guest guest Posted July 2, 2002 Report Share Posted July 2, 2002 In a message dated 7/2/02 8:44:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sulablue2001@... writes: > went down to 133 when My mil who is diebetic and lost a toe do to it, was told to do at least 20 min a day of walking. Not including her little walk to work. The days she does get it in her sugar is good the days she does not it is bad. So maybe there is something to the exercise thing. NH Mommy to Abby Liz 10-25-94 Mommy to Anne 7-1-99 START 6/1/02 236/232/199 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2002 Report Share Posted July 2, 2002 Way to go!!!! I have been starting to exercise again and it feels great Keep it up. Keep the Faith 220/217/120ish www.geocities.com/bloomingpansy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2002 Report Share Posted July 31, 2002 > FYI, I have been zapped and I think that > it helps alleviate the fear of the unknown > although others will surely disagree. I think I will be aprehensive until it happens to me. I do think getting zapped once will help me come to terms with this. Bridget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2002 Report Share Posted October 8, 2002 Hello and welcome. There are all kinds of suggestions we can make, but first, we need some more info. 1) Can you describe your pain? Where and when does it hurt? 2) What have the doctors / physical therapists said? Have you been diagnosed with CP? 3) Did you hurt your knee, or has the pain come on slowly? Any information you can give us will help. - Doug > Hi, > > I've just joined. Do u know of any exercises that help ease the pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2002 Report Share Posted October 9, 2002 Hi, Its a sharp pain on the left hand side of my right knee. It hurts when i walk up stairs and at the mo when i bend my knee. The doctor just said to exercise and as I've been for physiotherapy before to do the exercises that they had already given me. I have been diagnosed with CP. The pain came along slowly a few years ago but keeps coming back > > Hi, > > > > I've just joined. Do u know of any exercises that help ease the > pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2002 Report Share Posted October 9, 2002 Hi Joanne: I hesitate to make any specific recommendations regarding exercises, because I don't have enough info to know what is really " wrong " with your knees. Despite your CP diagnosis, your pain may be coming from the soft tissues (ligaments, tendons, etc.) around the knee. See the recent posts entitled " Can Cartilage 'Feel' " starting at #2934. My general advice is as follows: 1) Check out the " Chondromalacia Do's and Don'ts " in the Files section 2) For now, stick with the exercises given to you by your doctor and physio 3) Check out the recent posts on stretching starting at #2967. In general, it seems that the most important thing is that you do SOME kind of exercises. Use your head and don't do anything that hurts an awful lot. Minor pain, it appears, is alright. Whatever you can do to " keep things moving " will help. Swimming, low/no- resistance cycling and walking are often well-tolerated. Your main focus should be determining what your true problem is. CP is a usually a symptom of some other disfunction - a muscle imbalance, an alignment problem or some other defect. Spend some time going through the Group's old posts. Finding a doctor who understands the inter-connectedness of the body is key. A thorough exam should take over an hour. Look for doctors who are concerned with whole-body wellness. Orthopedic surgeons are usually pretty useless when it comes to CP. In the meantime, keep asking questions and keep learning. Hope that helps, Doug > > > Hi, > > > > > > I've just joined. Do u know of any exercises that help ease the > > pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2002 Report Share Posted October 9, 2002 One more thing Joanne... Does your pain feel like it is above/below your kneecap, or next to it, or behind it? Or is it well to the inside of it? My pain was also to the medial side of my kneecap, and (as it turns out) probably had nothing to do with the patella. More likely, my pain was at the tendon that attatches the VMO (inside thigh muscle) to the knee. - D > > > Hi, > > > > > > I've just joined. Do u know of any exercises that help ease the > > pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2002 Report Share Posted October 11, 2002 It is at the side of it. > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I've just joined. Do u know of any exercises that help ease the > > > pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2002 Report Share Posted October 11, 2002 Joanne: That is probably good news. It may mean that your problem is not in the kneecap at all, but rather some injuries to the soft tissues (ligaments, tendons, etc.) surrounding the knee. What you have to do is find a doctor who can give you a good exam. It should take at least an hour. Try to find an osteopathic doctor or a pain specialist. Anyone who specializes in " whole body " wellness. You need to figure out what is really " wrong " with you that is causing your knee pain. It may not be your knee at all - it could be your feet, ankles, hips or back. YOU have to become the expert. Learn as much as you can about anatomy and all the different types of doctors out there. This Group is probably one of the best sources of information, but it will take some time to search in the old posts. Use the " Search Archive " feature on the Home Page. You've got to put alot of effort in, but it will pay off. The members of this Group that have really done their homework are the ones who are getting better. Good luck, Doug > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > I've just joined. Do u know of any exercises that help ease > the > > > > pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2002 Report Share Posted October 11, 2002 Joanne I used to get pain in the medial area in what is called the " pes anserinus " area. This is below the joint line where the ligament attaches to the top of the shin bone. It was a horrible sharp pain... and is definitely NOT cartilage related. It is due to soft- tissue damage (stretching, twisting, scarring etc). I still get it a little though not nearly as bad as I used to. Pain in the medial area along the joint line would be a different matter. In fact I had pain there too but it has got a lot better, now virtually gone. Take your CP diagnosis with a pinch of salt. You may have a different problem! The most useful guy I saw was a sports injury specialist. You should get a thorough and competent check up from someone ofthis ilk. Don't use an OS for this - they are surgeons not pain specialists. Joe > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > I've just joined. Do u know of any exercises that help ease > > the > > > > > pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2002 Report Share Posted November 26, 2002 Katte, Annette and , Please lets stop defending ourselves :-) My understanding is that exercise intolerance is a " specific " marker for CFS but I am one of a few who can exercise since 5 years ago. Í've had ME for ll years but I have never suffered pain with this illness so maybe this makes the difference in each subset? Katte mentioned exercising during the intial onset of CFS- BIG no no. I did this only once during the beginning. I decided to get on my stairmaster one day when I felt " fairly " ok, this was the BIGGEST mistake of my life!! I had so much aching discomfort in legs that I wanted to cut them off and I do believe this little bit of exercise I did at the time prolonged this illness and made me worse for the next 6 years. Up until 5 years ago I was radually able to go for very slow short walks and then I was fortunate to be able to build up to brisk 30-40 minute walks and now I am able to run once a week (around 6km). But I have to admit that since I started running this is when my cognitive problems started. So I have to be honest with myself and not ignore this although I would like to stay in denial and keep running I have the energy to run but I really pay for it the next day when my brain can no longer concentrate. I will try to run less more often, pace myself to where I run 2km every few days. I won't get the same " high " from running but at least this a smarter solution. I 'feel very much empathy for those who can't tolerate exercise and I don't think you should have to defend yourselves to ANYONE! It's certainly not because your " not trying " or because " your used to not doing anything " , this illness effects people very differently and if you can't exercise DON'T! Your body is telling you not to. Oh and please whoever it is who is saying that it has to do with " attitude " , please stop this, it's belittling. Nat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2002 Report Share Posted November 26, 2002 I think that everyone needs to get it through their heads that we are not all the same. That even each person's symptoms can change at different times. Personally, I was not exercise intolerant for the first several years of my illness. It was odd, the one symptom that was supposed to be the " hallmark " I didn't have. I had many of the others though including lab diagnostics. But then in later years I became exercise intolerant. Some day I'm sure it will all make sense. They will figure out what makes any of us exercise intolerant, and it will be clear that it is some side effect of some bug or lack of a nutrient, or something like that. In many years I have never seen a single thing that is consistent among us. We may not have the same illness, or maybe we do. But nobody should believe that we are all the same. Thanks, Doris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2003 Report Share Posted January 1, 2003 - good for you!!!!!! I use my exercise bike regularly and have it set at zero for tension. I do about 9 miles in 30 minutes. A trainer I talked to said that as long as losing weight was my primary goal, that the best thing to do would be to skip the resistance on the bike for now....I do other toning instead and this seems to be working for me! The fat is disappearing and the leg muscles are starting to develope (slowly but thats what I want). So I think you did great!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2003 Report Share Posted January 1, 2003 In a message dated 1/1/03 8:33:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, Jase4567@... writes: Well, got off my butt and exercised. It was not until 8pm but I did it. Weight to go . It does not matter when you did it...just that you did it. Rae 260/150/150 "Obstacles are those frightful things you see when you take your eyes off your goal" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 In a message dated 1/1/03 8:41:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, karbchickadee@... writes: zero for tension I may try this today. I had it 4 clicks from zero. It hurt. Then I thought I did not type of warm up. If I started at zero I would not need a warm up. NH Mommy to Abby Liz 10-25-94 Mommy to Anne 7-1-99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 >> did 20 min on the exercise bike. I was telling hubby I did 5 miles in 21 min. That's pretty good, no matter *what* the tension was set at. > and said how do your legs feel. Probably like rubber! LOL > I have made a exercise sheet from my computer to log my exercise. I think I'm going to dig up that box of stick-on stars I bought last year and finally start using them by putting a star on the calendar on days I exercise. I've made so many charts as incentive then ignored them it's pathetic. At least I got 2 days of exercise in already this week, and as soon as I finish checking email it'll be 3. Hubby is already gone to work, I finished my asthma meds, and have no excuse not to stick my video in the machine, other than my own laziness. << Sue in NJ >> Amazing! You just hang something in your closet for a while, and it shrinks two sizes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 > I may try this today. I had it 4 clicks from zero. It hurt. Exercise should NOT hurt! Ignore Jane Fonda and No Pain, No Gain! >If I started at zero I would not need a warm up. Going at zero tension would probably be your warm-up. If you're like me, after a few minutes you'll *want* to increase the tension to work a bit harder because it feels so good. Gee, I really miss my exercycle, but there is just no room in this apartment for one, even if we did sell the treadmill. Sue in NJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 Good for you! Actually, for maximum fat burning, you should not use any resistance! you add resistance when the fat is gone and you want to add muscle... Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 > Gee, I really miss my exercycle, but there is just no room in this apartment for one, even > if we did sell the treadmill. > Sue in NJ When the podiatrist told me to ride an exercise bike for 30 minutes a day, I just didn't want to have to go to the clubhouse to ride it -- and I didn't want one sitting in the house! So I bought a "pedal exerciser" (you can find them on the web). It's a set of pedals, with tension adjustment, on a stand. You sit in a chair and pedal away. It's great because you can just put it away when you're not using it! Sue"I did the thing I feared the most -- excuse me while I cheer.Now here I stand, a stronger soul -- and all I've lost is fear.""Don't give up what you want mostfor what you want for the moment""Fate is what life hands you.Destiny is what you do with it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 > want one sitting in the house! So I bought a " pedal exerciser " (you can > find them on the web). It's a set of pedals, with tension adjustment, on a > stand. You sit in a chair and pedal away. I keep forgetting about those. I see the cheap ones in Lillian Vernon catalogs and always mean to order one, but want to see one in person first. I've been known to bend pedals on real bikes even when I was a lower weight. Next time I'm at the mall there's a Modell's sporting goods store nearby. I'll have to remember to stop in and take a look. Thanks for the reminder. Sue in NJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 In a message dated 1/2/2003 6:17:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, susang@... writes: > At least I got 2 days of exercise in already this week, and > as soon as I finish checking email it'll be 3 Good for you Sue!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 In a message dated 1/2/2003 8:03:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, Jase4567 writes: > If I started at zero I would not need a warm up. - when I do the time on my bike, I basically keep the tension at zero, then the first 3-4 minutes I start out slowly (appx 13 mph) then build to my full speed of 18 mph - at about 15 minutes into it I hit 19-20 mph and stay there until the end of my workout - when I slowly bring it back down (about 2 min). I normally do at least 30 minutes but have worked up to 45-60 minutes at times. When I go longer I aim for quick bursts of speeds of about 21-22 miles an hour. My bike has been my standard form of exercise for the past 7 months and has helped me to lose the weight. This method seems to work fine for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 In a message dated 1/2/2003 8:41:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, suer@... writes: > Actually, for maximum fat burning, you should not use any resistance! you add resistance when the fat is gone and you > want to add muscle... > That is what I am finding using the exercise bike. The thinner my tree trunk thighs get the more I can actually feel muscle underneath them. The not using any tension is working great for me..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2003 Report Share Posted April 15, 2003 In a message dated 4/15/2003 4:51:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, supermattvan@... writes: > I was wondering what kinds of > gentle exercise others on the list found useful. Adrienne is back doing ballet. She is also doing Modern and jazz, but she is feeling pretty good right now. Even when she was not feeling well... she danced. And when she stopped dancing with the dance company, she continued dancing on her own either in classes in Seattle or locally with theater groups. She just broadened her type of dancing, to swing, ball room, even country and anything else a director wanted in a show. (within reason) The dancing seems to help keep her flexible. And she just loves the movement. K Adrienne's Mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2003 Report Share Posted April 15, 2003 Matt, I would like that info too. I am very sure my lower spine is starting to fuse. I just had xrays which may help with that dx. And I want to know what kinds of exercise I can do to help with my increasing problems with weight gain. I have enough fatigue that I'm having a struggle doing daily activities a lot of the time. The dr. keeps telling me that I need to exercise more and she does not understand the level I plunge to if I don't monitor myself right--or even if I DO at times... I do know that just diet alone isn't going to help the weight. Liz ~~~~~~ " This is the day which the Lord hath made; Let us be GLAD and rejoice in it! " Psalms 118:24 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ EMAIL: juliette@... **ICQ 49746198** MSN-LizKP1952@... PERSONAL HOMEPAGE PAGE http://members.tripod.com/~LizK ADDult HOME PAGE: http://members.tripod.com/~LizK/addult.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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