Guest guest Posted November 24, 2001 Report Share Posted November 24, 2001 I have one that I ordered on the Internet. It is wonderful! I've had many health problems since I received it, and other means of exercise are pretty much out right now. But the rebounder can be used by almost anyone in any condition. It can also challenge the most fit person, depending on how it is used. Be careful what you buy. Many rebounders are made with hard mat materials and weak springs so that they are not as useful. Here's the link to Needak, the company I purchased a rebounder from. There are also videos and books available to help you get the most from your rebounder. They are available for people at all fitness levels. I have " Carol's Health Bounce " , a good beginning video. http://www.needakmfg.com/company.htm My best to you! Sherri Rebounders I have been thinking about and looking at some inexpensive methods of attaining the required exercise goals over our snowy winter here in northern Central Ontario Canada. Not a skier and the icy conditions often makes walking very hazardous. Does anyone have any experience, or imput they would like to share on Rebounders? These are the mini, as in garbage can lid sized, small trampolines you can put up in a small area and bounce away. Exercize bikes are not only expensive and take up a lot of space, I also find them extremely boring, and soon have lots of excuses why I can't ride it!! Rebounders are on special at CTC this week, so it would be a good Xmas present to my self, or maybe hubby would get it for me!! Take care. Toni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2001 Report Share Posted November 24, 2001 Sherri: Thanks sooo much for the info. I've been looking at rebounders for a while. I bought tons of books and videos from Al (the man who wrote the book on rebounding), but my physical therapist told me not to get one because of my back. By ANY CHANCE, do you have back problems? If so, did rebounding help? Best Wishes, karen Rebounders > > > I have been thinking about and looking at some inexpensive methods of > attaining the required exercise goals over our snowy winter here in > northern Central Ontario Canada. Not a skier and the icy conditions > often makes walking very hazardous. > Does anyone have any experience, or imput they would like to share on > Rebounders? These are the mini, as in garbage can lid sized, small > trampolines you can put up in a small area and bounce away. > Exercize bikes are not only expensive and take up a lot of space, I > also find them extremely boring, and soon have lots of excuses why I > can't ride it!! > Rebounders are on special at CTC this week, so it would be a good > Xmas present to my self, or maybe hubby would get it for me!! > Take care. > Toni > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2001 Report Share Posted November 24, 2001 No, I don't have back problems except for normal aches and pains, but I think a proper rebounder would even be useful for that. You don't have to jump athletically to receive benefits. You can do a " health bounce " where you don't even lift your feet from the mat. That is good for all parts of your body and I'm sure would not stress your back. If you are truly suffering right now, you could even sit on the mat and bounce by using your feet on the floor or having someone else provide the bounce for you. I hope you find something that will help. I don't like not being able to exercise like I want to do! Perhaps you could call or email the people at Needak to see what they say about back problems and rebounders. I think they know their stuff. My best to you. Sherri Rebounders > > > I have been thinking about and looking at some inexpensive methods of > attaining the required exercise goals over our snowy winter here in > northern Central Ontario Canada. Not a skier and the icy conditions > often makes walking very hazardous. > Does anyone have any experience, or imput they would like to share on > Rebounders? These are the mini, as in garbage can lid sized, small > trampolines you can put up in a small area and bounce away. > Exercize bikes are not only expensive and take up a lot of space, I > also find them extremely boring, and soon have lots of excuses why I > can't ride it!! > Rebounders are on special at CTC this week, so it would be a good > Xmas present to my self, or maybe hubby would get it for me!! > Take care. > Toni > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2001 Report Share Posted November 24, 2001 Ahh yes, rebounders. Part of the benefit of rebounding is the circulation, especially of the lymphatic system. Did you know we have more lymph fluid than blood? Or that we have more " mileage " in our lymphatic system than for our blood? And that we have no " pump " system (like that beating heart) for the lymphatic system? We must get it through physical activity, and rebounding is very good for this. Also Yoga, but I guess most Os aren't very much into that... If you don't have a rebounder, don't worry, you can get plenty of lymphatic stimulation from jogging and running... very O-ish activities! Also, in my Chi video there is an exercise that is basically standing with knees slightly bent, bouncing up and down, this is much like rebounding. You don't need a trampoline to bounce! But I'm sure rebounders are more effective and less aggravating to existing injuries... just m2c Re: Rebounders > No, I don't have back problems except for normal aches and pains, but I think a proper rebounder would even be useful for that. > > You don't have to jump athletically to receive benefits. You can do a " health bounce " where you don't even lift your feet from the mat. That is good for all parts of your body and I'm sure would not stress your back. > > If you are truly suffering right now, you could even sit on the mat and bounce by using your feet on the floor or having someone else provide the bounce for you. > > I hope you find something that will help. I don't like not being able to exercise like I want to do! > > Perhaps you could call or email the people at Needak to see what they say about back problems and rebounders. I think they know their stuff. > > My best to you. > > Sherri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2001 Report Share Posted November 24, 2001 Great thing to do - it also greatly improves your sense of balance - skaters use and older people should...great risk is in falling for the elderly and now is the time to work on balance not when you are 80 or 90.. I used to do it for 1/2 hr while watching Oprah but don't have time for tv at the moment - - last time I used it I could only do 5 minutes! Boy, those muscles soon forget if you don't keep using them. Ann Will dig it out today...a few minutes her and a few there all help...esp with the lymphatic system Re: Rebounders Ahh yes, rebounders. Part of the benefit of rebounding is the circulation, especially of the lymphatic system. Did you know we have more lymph fluid than blood? Or that we have more " mileage " in our lymphatic system than for our blood? And that we have no " pump " system (like that beating heart) for the lymphatic system? We must get it through physical activity, and rebounding is very good for this. Also Yoga, but I guess most Os aren't very much into that... If you don't have a rebounder, don't worry, you can get plenty of lymphatic stimulation from jogging and running... very O-ish activities! Also, in my Chi video there is an exercise that is basically standing with knees slightly bent, bouncing up and down, this is much like rebounding. You don't need a trampoline to bounce! But I'm sure rebounders are more effective and less aggravating to existing injuries... just m2c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2001 Report Share Posted November 24, 2001 I recall reading, just recently, that a few minutes of rebounding before eating was good for you - good for digestion I believe. I wish I could recall where I read it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2001 Report Share Posted November 24, 2001 --- Toni wrote: --------------------------------- Does anyone have any experience, or imput they would like to share on Rebounders? Well...... Women whose pelvic floor muscles are less than perfect (as a result of childbirth, surgery or whatever), might want to avoid rebounders until they can get the muscles in better condition! Just a thought! Regards to all, __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2001 Report Share Posted November 24, 2001 Just empty your bladder before using it, consciously contract those muscles and gradually build up the time you can keep them contracted. Do Kegel exercises everytime you are at a stop light or waiting in line. Later, do the rebounder with a little in the bladder. For those with back problems, if the cause is weak core musculature then also do the Pilates idea of putting belly button to the spine and hold it - do intercostal breathing ie expand your lower rib cage. m2c Ann - mother of 4 Re: Rebounders --- Toni wrote: --------------------------------- Does anyone have any experience, or imput they would like to share on Rebounders? Well...... Women whose pelvic floor muscles are less than perfect (as a result of childbirth, surgery or whatever), might want to avoid rebounders until they can get the muscles in better condition! Just a thought! Regards to all, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 I would like to get one, but over$200 seems rediculous. A full-sized trampoline costs that much ( in Australia). Does anyone know of a good deal?? Virginia > Hi, > > I bought a rebounder when I first was dxd with Advanced Prostate Cancer > about this time twelve years ago. > > It was a caddilac of rebounders. The same thing now is over $200.00. > > I used it about 5 years virtually every day and then neglected it. I am > using it again. I believe it is the best exercise for health that there is. > > At the time I bought it if felt that if it gave me even five extra days of > living my extra retirement pay would pay for it and therefore in the long > run it was free. If it gave me ten extra days I was way ahead. > > I am well sold on its value as a way to keep the lymph system going and > flushed. > > More on that particular rebounder can be learned at > > www.healthbounce.com > > There are other good rebounders I am sure. > > Cliff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 I would like to get one, but over$200 seems rediculous. A full-sized trampoline costs that much ( in Australia). Does anyone know of a good deal?? Virginia > Hi, > > I bought a rebounder when I first was dxd with Advanced Prostate Cancer > about this time twelve years ago. > > It was a caddilac of rebounders. The same thing now is over $200.00. > > I used it about 5 years virtually every day and then neglected it. I am > using it again. I believe it is the best exercise for health that there is. > > At the time I bought it if felt that if it gave me even five extra days of > living my extra retirement pay would pay for it and therefore in the long > run it was free. If it gave me ten extra days I was way ahead. > > I am well sold on its value as a way to keep the lymph system going and > flushed. > > More on that particular rebounder can be learned at > > www.healthbounce.com > > There are other good rebounders I am sure. > > Cliff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2003 Report Share Posted June 29, 2003 Excuse the naive question Gail,- and I am sure you will forgive me because I know you are doing some great work,- but what would lymphasising have over walking a half hour a day? Gail Naranjo <lwtsl@...> wrote:Hi Folks, If any are interested, Donna Crow, a list member, is selling the Needak soft bounce mini trampoline for a distcount price of $199 plus s & h. They usually run for $249.95. Her email is ruthful@... . Any interested can contact her there. Just to let people who might not know anything about rebounding and it's effectiveness in moving the lymphatic system, it is important to know that the lymphatic system does not have a pump to move it and must be moved with excercise. Rebounding is the easiest and most effective way I know of in getting the lymph fluid moving. Quoting from " Rebounding To Better Health " by . " Lymph is moved like a hydraulic pressure system...not pumped by the heart. The lymph tubes are filled with one-way valves that only open up, or toward the center of the body. When pressure below the valve is greater than above, the valves are forced open, so the fluid can flow. The rebounder can act as your lymph pump. At the bottom of the bounce, the gravitational pull closes the valves, but at the top of the bounce the pressure is decreased and the centrifugal force of your falling allows the lymph to flow up. Because the lymph is flowing and waste is leaving, the body has a need for more white blood cells. In a few minutes of health bouncing (bouncing while feet remain on the mat), the white blood cells are increased as much as three fold. As you bounce on your rebounder, your cells experience a gentle squeezing at the bottom of the bounce, pulling toxins from the cells, while stimulating them to become stronger. A very important aspect of rebound exercise is that it efficiently removes trapped blood proteins from around the cells where they hold fluid and cause pain and disease....Rebound exercise facilitates the movement of these trapped proteins into the lymphatic veins, excess fluid is removed, and the cells can receive oxygen again. " According to Dr. West it is the trapped proteins that cause all disease, pain, and even death. Don't know if that's true or not but rebounding is suppose to get them moving out. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2003 Report Share Posted June 30, 2003 Re: Rebounders Excuse the naive question Gail,- and I am sure you will forgive me because I know you are doing some great work,- but what would lymphasising have over walking a half hour a day? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hi Tom. Gail gave a great response to this, but I want to add some more things that I am learning. This is all new to me and the more I learn the more impressed I am. One thing it does that walking doesn't do is it puts your brain waves into aplha state. In that state your ability to learn is remarkable. It is part of why kids learn so well. They live in alpha alot. In just a few minutes of bouncing it triples your white cell count, so people with cancer bounce a little each hour and it helps remove cancer. And obviously anything else that white cells address. It establishes better equalibrium. Elderly people have much better balance after using it. It improves coordination throught the transmission of nerve impulses and responsiveness of the muscle fibers. It improves eyesight noticeably. They eyes are used more in the effort to keep balance and are exercised effortlessly. It tones the endocrine system. According to Morton DPM " It chemically attains absolute potential of the cells. " I think that means it makes your cells work as good as they possibly can. Smile. It has been used to treat brain damage as well as adhd. Helps with speech difficulties. It balances the nervous systems; sympathetic, parasympathetic, autonomic, central. and on and on and on. ten minutes of rebounding gives you all the benefits of walking a half hour (except site seeing) plus a multitude of other benefits. I love walking. I even wrote an article for a newspaper on walking a few years back. It is not an either or situation. Walking and rebounding have things in common and things not in common. Donna . . . put a little love in your heart . . . http://www.excellentthings.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2003 Report Share Posted August 28, 2003 At $18 from wallmart I wouldn't even look at it let alone try to use it. The yard sale <might> have been a good deal, then again it could be junk. Buy at least a medium price one or buy a good supply of plaster of paris for the casts you will need. On 28 Aug 2003 at 13:10, HealthiGal@... wrote: > I was told Walmart had some folding ones for only $18.00 but they were > out when I went it. Would anyone really pay $200 and up for these > things?? Saw one at a yard sale for $10 wish I had bought it!! > > Serita > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2003 Report Share Posted August 28, 2003 I'll second what Ken said. My first was a cheapie that almost killed my lower back and knees. Then a couple years ago I purchased a Needak like Donna Crow sells. Oh the difference!! Edith In a message dated 08/28/2003 11:01:53 AM Central Daylight Time, iri2@... writes: > I have tried both and it is like chalk and cheese, except neither the chalk > nor cheese bounce too well :-) Believe me, I have nothing to gain by > recommending one over the other and I don't know about the permanent damage caused > by the long term use of the cheap one versus the expensive one but the > expensive one is relaxing and fun to use and the cheap one is jarring (much like > jumping up and down on a carpeted floor) which makes me believe their may be > some truth to the damage story. Why take the chance? > Best wishes and much love, Ken > > Ken Gullan > Institute for Research Integration (IRI) > San Diego, CA 92106-2424 > IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with > developmental difficulties. > To contact me off-list use kengullan@... or call 619-222-1104 > Re: Rebounders > > > Exactly. And all for a piece of canvas and a handful of bed > springs. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2003 Report Share Posted August 28, 2003 I have a rebounder I bought 20 years ago. It has a welded frame, single rate springs and a tightly sprung synthetic woven mat. This rebounder is probably representative of the less expensive types and let me tell you that it works just fine. The combination of the springs and the mat fabric stretching when landed on, creates a landing far far softer than a carpeted floor. No back pain here. Dennis Ken Gullan - IRI wrote: >I have tried both and it is like chalk and cheese, except neither the chalk nor cheese bounce too well :-) Believe me, I have nothing to gain by recommending one over the other and I don't know about the permanent damage caused by the long term use of the cheap one versus the expensive one but the expensive one is relaxing and fun to use and the cheap one is jarring (much like jumping up and down on a carpeted floor) which makes me believe their may be some truth to the damage story. Why take the chance? >Best wishes and much love, Ken > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2003 Report Share Posted August 28, 2003 I was told Walmart had some folding ones for only $18.00 but they were out when I went it. Would anyone really pay $200 and up for these things?? Saw one at a yard sale for $10 wish I had bought it!! Serita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2003 Report Share Posted August 28, 2003 Dennis, Great, then use it. I am not trying to convince anyone to use anything, I am just saying that I wouldn't take a chance with it. My dad smoked for nearly 75 years and never died from cancer but I would not smoke, We are not all alike and many people suffered from back pain and don't own nay reboiunder. :-) Best wishes and much love, Ken Ken Gullan Institute for Research Integration (IRI) San Diego, CA 92106-2424 IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with developmental difficulties. To contact me off-list use kengullan@... or call 619-222-1104 Re: Rebounders I have a rebounder I bought 20 years ago. It has a welded frame, single rate springs and a tightly sprung synthetic woven mat. This rebounder is probably representative of the less expensive types and let me tell you that it works just fine. The combination of the springs and the mat fabric stretching when landed on, creates a landing far far softer than a carpeted floor. No back pain here. Dennis Ken Gullan - IRI wrote: >I have tried both and it is like chalk and cheese, except neither the chalk nor cheese bounce too well :-) Believe me, I have nothing to gain by recommending one over the other and I don't know about the permanent damage caused by the long term use of the cheap one versus the expensive one but the expensive one is relaxing and fun to use and the cheap one is jarring (much like jumping up and down on a carpeted floor) which makes me believe their may be some truth to the damage story. Why take the chance? >Best wishes and much love, Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2003 Report Share Posted August 28, 2003 -Hi Serita, Well, I did exactly that! I bought a cheap one from Walmart for around $20 and fell in love with rebounding. But....after a few times of jumping on it my knees really started to hurt. I'd have to wait for days before they would quit so I could jump on it again. Then when I got on it they would start to hurt all over again. So I went and did what you asked about would anybody really pay $200 for one of these things. I paid $249 plus s & h. There just isn't any comparison! However, some have reported using the cheap ones and it not bothering them. Maybe they are only doing the health bounce (feet not leaving the mat), I don't know. But I do know some don't seem to have a problem with them. However, most do. From being on these lists and using a mini trampoline for over a year now, the majority of the people report problems with the cheap one and no problems have been reported while using the better quality one. Gail -- In oxyplus , HealthiGal@w... wrote: > I was told Walmart had some folding ones for only $18.00 but they were > out when I went it. Would anyone really pay $200 and up for these > things?? Saw one at a yard sale for $10 wish I had bought it!! > > Serita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2003 Report Share Posted August 28, 2003 Mine was new at Big-5 for $19.95. Re: Rebounders > I was told Walmart had some folding ones for only $18.00 but they were > out when I went it. Would anyone really pay $200 and up for these > things?? Saw one at a yard sale for $10 wish I had bought it!! > > Serita > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2003 Report Share Posted August 28, 2003 How high do you bounce? Re: Rebounders > > > > > > Exactly. And all for a piece of canvas and a handful of bed > > springs. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2003 Report Share Posted August 28, 2003 The cheap rebounders from walmart do not have springs and that is why they hurt your knees. The springs make it easier on you all the way around. > > I was told Walmart had some folding ones for only $18.00 but they > were > > out when I went it. Would anyone really pay $200 and up for these > > things?? Saw one at a yard sale for $10 wish I had bought it!! > > > > Serita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 In a message dated 08/29/2003 5:22:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mkathryn59@... writes: << Are you sure you have this web site correct? >>www.optimallife.com The correct address is this www.4optimallife.com Christel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 > I was told Walmart had some folding ones for only $18.00 but they were > out when I went it. Would anyone really pay $200 and up for these > things?? Saw one at a yard sale for $10 wish I had bought it!! There was a fairly detailed discussion of rebounders on this list about 1.5 to 3 months ago. It included a number of people writing about better results w/more expensive models, problems with cheaper models, and speculation/info on 2 particular " good " models (needak, and some other one). Really, anyone interested in buying one, I would encourage you to go look this up and read all the comments. The whole discussion spurred me to buy a Needak right away (which I had been considering for some time). I bought a used one on Ebay, saving, I think, close to $100? I also bought the stabalizer bar. good wishes, Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 Serita, I have a Needak Softbounce that I purchased from www.optimallife.com and it was somewhere in the $200 range. I've had people over that either own or have used inferior rebounders and they do remark on the difference right away. I love mine and when researching to make my purchase I decided that I wouln't take the chance of getting bad knees or back pain from an inferior model. GypsyRose ----Original Message Follows---- From: HealthiGal@... Reply-oxyplus oxyplus Subject: Re: Rebounders Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 13:10:26 -0500 (CDT) I was told Walmart had some folding ones for only $18.00 but they were out when I went it. Would anyone really pay $200 and up for these things?? Saw one at a yard sale for $10 wish I had bought it!! Serita _________________________________________________________________ Get MSN 8 and enjoy automatic e-mail virus protection. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 Are you sure you have this web site correct? I tried it and all I got twice was porn. You might want to checkout this. I wanted to look at it but I don't want to see all of that mess. > > Serita, > I have a Needak Softbounce that I purchased from www.optimallife.com and it > was somewhere in the $200 range. I've had people over that either own or > have used inferior rebounders and they do remark on the difference right > away. I love mine and when researching to make my purchase I decided that I > wouln't take the chance of getting bad knees or back pain from an inferior > model. > GypsyRose > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: HealthiGal@w... > Reply-oxyplus > oxyplus > Subject: Re: Rebounders > Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 13:10:26 -0500 (CDT) > I was told Walmart had some folding ones for only $18.00 but they were > out when I went it. Would anyone really pay $200 and up for these > things?? Saw one at a yard sale for $10 wish I had bought it!! > Serita > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get MSN 8 and enjoy automatic e-mail virus protection. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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