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I did some research today and found the company name is Eden Foods and their

number is 1-800-248-0320- web site is www.edenfoods.com and there is supposed to

be something on the site about this product - the Bifa-15.

It is $34.99 for a box of 30 (packets, I guess) basically a month's supply with

a $5.00 shipping charge (no matter how many boxes you purchase).

I haven't yet found the number for Jarrow but my NEEDS catalog shows 2 products

Jarro-Dophilus + FOS and Bifidus Balance + FOS but no mention of a TH1 formula

through NEEDS.

Marty Z.

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Re Probiotics

From: " Moffett " <goldrun@...>

Thanks Marty for posting these links. My question is, as mentioned below

from Konlee's page, where does one find the " Vital Biotics " he highly

recommends, apparantly formulated by Dr, Hower of Voyager Group? Also, does

anyone know when Jarrow's Formula will have available the new Th1 Probiotic

product? Thanks in advance for any input.

>>I’ve written about soil-based organisms extensively in the past and

several persons with CFIDS and HIV have said that they have been helped with

Nature’s Biotics. However, with Nature’s Biotics, some persons have had to take

it 2 or 3 months before they finally had normal stools - those large diameter

floaters. Another formulation called “Vital Biotics” seems to work faster -

restoring normal stools in 2 to 3 weeks or even less.

This formulation was developed by Dr. Hower MD for Voyager Group

(Carlsbad, CA), the manufacturer. It was formulated from 10 strains that are

naturally found on organic fruits and vegetables. This includes soil-based

organisms and powerful TH1 promoting strains like L Plantarum and L Casei along

with lactic acid forming strains like L Salivarius, Acidophilus and DDS-1

Acidophilus plus Bifidus, Brevis, Rhamnosus, Bulgaricus and Lactis in a base of

FOS (from artichokes) that promotes intestinal flora growth. One billion of each

of 10 strains are reported to have been placed in the formula along with the

SBO’s.

Irrespective of what is reported to be in the formula, the anecdotal reports

tell us at the end point that matters how the product benefits the patient.

Several persons have told me who have used both Natures Biotics and Vital

Biotics that both are very beneficial in restoring normal stools but that the

Vital Biotics works faster with fewer capsules. Having tried both brands for an

extended period of time, I am convinced that the Vital Biotics formula is the

best over-the-counter (OTC) brand currently available. However, it is missing

one strain that is critical to producing acetic acid, the acid found in apple

cider vinegar that is reported to kill gram negative bacteria. Gram negative

bacteria that produce toxins are the type that like to inhabit a colon that has

a higher pH in an alkaline direction. The strain that produces both acetic acid

and lactic acid is Bifidobacterium Longum (B. Longum).

B Longum also promotes IgA, an immunoglobulin that supports mucosal

immunity. The best combination is to use both Vital Biotics along with product

called Bifa-15 or the new upcoming “Th1 Probiotics” from Jarrow Formulas that

will also contain B Longum.

Bifa-15 and Th1 Probiotics

Within the past few months, Eden Foods has introduced to health food stores

a new probiotic called Bifa 15 that contains microencapsulated B. Longum

designed to get past the stomach acids and reach the colon. This product

deserves special watching as acetic acid will produce a very hostile environment

to HIV, Candida and most other infections of the large intestines.

On 9/30/99 I spoke with Pamela D who told me of her personal experience

using Bifa-15. She had suffered badly from candida albicans, was intolerant to

wheat (gluten intolerance) and had multiple chemical sensitivity (MCS) and

numerous allergies. After using one packet of the formulation daily for 6 weeks,

she reported normal stools, more energy, better sleep and that most of her

symptoms had gone away. She said she no longer is sensitive to perfumes. Bifa-15

is expected to be very helpful for persons immune-compromised whose colon pH is

too alkaline.

TH1 Probiotics - now under development by Jarrow Formulas will contain one

billion B longum per serving along with 1/2 billion S. Boulardi and high

concentrations of L Casei and L Plantarum - both heat treated so as to be safe

to use in persons with leaky gut who are severely immune compromised.<<

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> Hi Bee

>

> I was just wondering what everyone is taking for probiotics? Can

you recommend a good one that won't cost me an arm and a leg. I've

been on this program since June and have not taken any yet. That may

be some of the problem with my bowels. dry mouth and bad breath. I

did a spit test this morning and it was scary, lots of long white

strings hanging in the water, the worst I have seen it yet. I was

eating sauerkraut, but not anymore as the last few batches I made

spolied. I've bought a few but they are so expensive.

+++Hi Madonna. Probiotics are very unimportant compared to " proper

nutrients " so you can save your money, since your body will create

the healthy bacteria it requires as your immune system is built up.

Do not rely on the spit test as it is highly inaccurate. More than

likely your bowel problems, dry mouth and bad breath are " retracing "

of previous similar problems and/or die-off symptoms. Just keep

doing the program and you will do just fine.

Luv, Bee

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> I was wondering how long should one take probiotics? I've just finished my

1st bottle of 30 and my bowel movements have greatly improved.

+++Hi Madonna. You can take them a long time; I took them 2 1/2 years during my

candida cure.

Bee

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** thanks Bee .... I found some Trophic, going to get them today ....

I've been taking 6 billion units per day and it has helped me big time, it

even took away the bad breath I was having so I'm happy :)

Happy Saturday Bee and everyone

hugs to you too Bee

Madonna

>

> +++Madonna. See if you can find Trophic Brand Non-Dairy Acidophilus.

> Ensure you do not take more than 10 billion units per day (in divided

> doses), which for most products means you dump out the capsule since they

> contain too much. That also lowers the costs.

>

> Luv & Hugs, Bee

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