Re: Alkaline water??? Kills my bloating within 15 minutes........

[Guest guest]

>

> Anyway... to my amazement, within 15 minutes of drinking a big glass of

alkaline water, my bloat is GONE!

That's amazing, I still get insanely bloated.

> By the way, Marina's menstrual cramping was so bad last month that an

ambulance came to the house

> THIS month, [....] no pain whatsoever.

This is like music to my ears. For the last ten years my periods (every month)

have been so bad that I have often considered going to the ER. The only reason

I never went, is cause I know they'll just give me morphine in the ER and if I

wanted to take morphine I could do it at home. I just refuse pain meds cause

they are so hard on the liver and they don't lead forward but only to

stagnation.

Will be interresting to hear what Bee has to say about alkaline water.

[Guest guest]

What kind of Alkaline Water did you drink?  I use to get very bloated, I mean

for years and pain.  I found from a friend, a site on Schultz and his

botanical pharmacy.  I took his Intestinal Formula 1 tablets for about 1 1/2

months and my stomach problem went away.  I could go on and on, but I will make

this short.  Now I drink Alkaline, Antioxidant Water that I purchased a machine,

from a company.

________________________________

From: elisabeteriksson <elisabeteriksson@...>

Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 5:04:24 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Alkaline water??? Kills my bloating within 15

minutes........

>

> Anyway... to my amazement, within 15 minutes of drinking a big glass of

alkaline water, my bloat is GONE!

That's amazing, I still get insanely bloated.

> By the way, Marina's menstrual cramping was so bad last month that an

ambulance came to the house

> THIS month, [....] no pain whatsoever.

This is like music to my ears. For the last ten years my periods (every month)

have been so bad that I have often considered going to the ER. The only reason I

never went, is cause I know they'll just give me morphine in the ER and if I

wanted to take morphine I could do it at home. I just refuse pain meds cause

they are so hard on the liver and they don't lead forward but only to

stagnation.

Will be interresting to hear what Bee has to say about alkaline water.

[Guest guest]

>

> I stopped by a health food store near my house to get some Tea Tree Oil for

Marina, and they guy offered to let us have 3 weeks free of alkaline water (ph

8.5 - 9.5) to see how we felt, and then they'll try to get me to buy some

pyrmamid scheme water system.

>

> I looked on the information sheet, and of course, it claims to cure many of

the same symptoms we all have with candida. I've been cheating a lot lately...

and with that entails bloat in the evening after a cheat. (See my picture in

Bee's picture files to see what I'm talking about!)

>

> Anyway... to my amazement, within 15 minutes of drinking a big glass of

alkaline water, my bloat is GONE! I go from being able to stick my belly way

out, as in the picture on Bee's site, to not being able to AT ALL! (Actually,

my bloat isn't as pronounced now as it was in the picture taken pre-diet... but

it is still pretty bad sometimes).

Dear Doug,

Even though that alkaline water appeared to handle your bloating, I don't

believe it is good for you, for these reasons:

1) " Ionized water " is nothing more than sales fiction; the term is meaningless

to chemists.

2) Pure water (that is, water containing no dissolved ions) is too unconductive

to undergo signficant electrolysis by " water ionizer " devices.

3) Pure water can never be alkaline or acidic, nor can it be made so by

electrolysis. Alkaline water must contain metallic ions of some kind — most

commonly, sodium, calcium or magnesium, which can throw off mineral balances and

cause problems with taking the correct amounts of calcium and magnesium. the

sodium will act like a diuretic which makes the body get rid of water and also

washes out minerals (electrolytes).

4) The idea that one must consume alkaline water to neutralize the effects of

acidic foods is ridiculous; we get rid of excess acid by exhaling carbon

dioxide, and there are many functions that regulate acidity/alkalinity levels in

the body, i.e. the kidneys.

5) If you do drink alkaline water, its alkalinity is quickly removed by the

highly acidic gastric fluid in the stomach.

6) The environment of the entire intestines is alkaline anyway, since the

pancreas produces high amount of bicarbonate of soda (baking soda) to alkalize

the stomach contents before it produces digestive enzymes. Those digestive

enzymes only work on alkalized food.

7) If you alkalize the stomach contents there won't be enough hydrochloric acid

in it to trigger the pancreas to produce baking soda and then its enzymes.

8) There is nothing wrong with drinking slightly acidic waters such as

rainwater.

9) " Body pH " is a meaningless concept; different parts of the body (and even of

individual cells) can have widely different pH values. The pH of drinking water

has zero effect on that of the blood or of the body's cells.

The best in health, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> What kind of Alkaline Water did you drink?  I use to get very bloated, I mean

for years and pain.  I found from a friend, a site on Schultz and his

botanical pharmacy.  I took his Intestinal Formula 1 tablets for about 1 1/2

months and my stomach problem went away.  I could go on and on, but I will make

this short.  Now I drink Alkaline, Antioxidant Water that I purchased a machine,

from a company.

+++Hi there. What is your name please? Bloating is caused by candida and/or

other bacteria being killed off, which creates carbon dioxide (gas).

Also please see my reply to Doug's message this morning which explains why you

don't want to take alkaline water.

Bee

[Guest guest]

I have a water ionizer machine and know that if drink to much water I will get a

headache and soar neck - dieoff.

I dont understand Bee's repsonse to alkaline water:

Even though that alkaline water appeared to handle your bloating, I don't

believe it is good for you, for these reasons:

1) " Ionized water " is nothing more than sales fiction; the term is meaningless

to chemists. (MAYBE SO, BUT CHEMISTS WERE TRAINED AT UNIVERSITIES THAT

RECOMMEND PHARMACEUTICALS / DRUGS)

2) Pure water (that is, water containing no dissolved ions) is too unconductive

to undergo signficant electrolysis by " water ionizer " devices. (I DONT KNOW

ABOUT THIS, ALL WATER GONE THROUGH THE MACHINE CAN COME OUT WITH A HIGHER PH)

3) Pure water can never be alkaline or acidic, nor can it be made so by

electrolysis. (PH BELOW 7.0 IS ACIDIC - TEST THE WATER YOURSELF AND WILL SEE

THAT 90% OF ALL TAP WATER IS ACIDIC 6 - 6.5) Alkaline water must contain

metallic ions of some kind — most commonly, sodium, calcium or magnesium, which

can throw off mineral balances and cause problems with taking the correct

amounts of calcium and magnesium. the sodium will act like a diuretic which

makes the body get rid of water and also washes out minerals (electrolytes).

(THIS COULD BE TRUE, I DONT KNOW WHICH MINERALS THE IONIZER MACHINE " SAVES " -

I THOUGHT IT WAS A COMBINATION OF ALL MINERALS..........I WILL ASK AROUND -- AS

FAR AS HEAVY METAL IONS, I HAVE AN EXTRA FILTER TO TAKE OUT THE HEAVY

METALS.........)

4) The idea that one must consume alkaline water to neutralize the effects of

acidic foods is ridiculous; we get rid of excess acid by exhaling carbon

dioxide, and there are many functions that regulate acidity/alkalinity levels in

the body, i.e. the kidneys. ( I DONT KNOW IF ITS JUST THAT EASY........WHEN YOU

ARE SICK, THOSE SYSTEMS MAY NOT BE WORKING CORRECTLY.....)

5) If you do drink alkaline water, its alkalinity is quickly removed by the

highly acidic gastric fluid in the stomach. (HUH... THEN WHY TAKE CALCIUM

MAGNESIUM SUPPLEMENTS OR ANY MINERAL SUPPLEMENT -- THEN WHY DO DIGESTIVE ENZYMES

WORK TO BREAK DOWN FOOD YOU WOULD THINK THE ACID WOULD KILL IT, BUT IT DOES

NOT)

6) The environment of the entire intestines is alkaline anyway, since the

pancreas produces high amount of bicarbonate of soda (baking soda) to alkalize

the stomach contents before it produces digestive enzymes. Those digestive

enzymes only work on alkalized food. (WHAT IF YOUR PANCREASE IS NOT WORKING

CORRECTLY....IF YOU ARE SICK / HORMONAL IMBALANCES ETC)

7) If you alkalize the stomach contents there won't be enough hydrochloric acid

in it to trigger the pancreas to produce baking soda and then its enzymes.

(DOES THIS MEAN I SHOULD NOT PUT SEA SALT ON MY FOOD, BECAUSE I USE A LOT ???)

8) There is nothing wrong with drinking slightly acidic waters such as

rainwater.

9) " Body pH " is a meaningless concept; different parts of the body (and even of

individual cells) can have widely different pH values. The pH of drinking water

has zero effect on that of the blood or of the body's cells. (IF YOU EVER GET

CANCER, I BET THE FIRST THING YOU WILL DO IS HYPER ALKALIZE ITS ALMOST A

NATURAL INSTINCT......THE HIGH PH SMOKES OUT CANCER - SOME SAY CANCER IS A

FUNGUS AND OTHERS ACID - EITHER WAY ALKALIZING WILL WORK - THE PROOF REALLY IS

IN THE PUDDING)

>

> I stopped by a health food store near my house to get some Tea Tree Oil for

Marina, and they guy offered to let us have 3 weeks free of alkaline water (ph

8.5 - 9.5) to see how we felt, and then they'll try to get me to buy some

pyrmamid scheme water system.

>

> I looked on the information sheet, and of course, it claims to cure many of

the same symptoms we all have with candida. I've been cheating a lot lately...

and with that entails bloat in the evening after a cheat. (See my picture in

Bee's picture files to see what I'm talking about!)

>

> Anyway... to my amazement, within 15 minutes of drinking a big glass of

alkaline water, my bloat is GONE! I go from being able to stick my belly way

out, as in the picture on Bee's site, to not being able to AT ALL! (Actually,

my bloat isn't as pronounced now as it was in the picture taken pre-diet... but

it is still pretty bad sometimes).

>

> After doing some research, I think there is something to this... some sort of

Holy Grail we've been looking for. It makes sense... we all know baking soda

makes candida unable to thrive, but we can't do too much of it because it messes

up our sodium balance. But this water changes the ph in your gut so candida

simply cannot live there, according to what I've read. No baking soda... it

uses platinum filters or something.

>

> By the way, Marina's menstrual cramping was so bad last month that an

ambulance came to the house at 2:00 am because she was screaming like her

appendix ruptured or something... which will cost me more than $600 in

deductables!!! THIS month, I don't know if it was the water or the diet, she

had a lot more bleeding than normal for her, but no pain whatsoever. Probably

like a normal period is supposed to be like! Coincedence??

>

> I'm going to continue to use it for another week, and then perhaps try to find

an alkaline water system that I won't have to take a second mortgage on the

house to afford.

>

> A quick google search of " candida alkaline water " pulls up plenty of info.

I've read your articles on ph, Bee... but haven't seen anything on alkaline

water.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Doug

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

>

> I have a water ionizer machine and know that if drink to much water I will get

a headache and soar neck - dieoff.

>

> I dont understand Bee's repsonse to alkaline water:

>

> Even though that alkaline water appeared to handle your bloating, I don't

believe it is good for you, for these reasons:

+++Hi Steve. In future please do not type in all capital letters. Not only are

they harder to read, but on the internet it also means you are shouting.

>

> 1) " Ionized water " is nothing more than sales fiction; the term is meaningless

to chemists. (MAYBE SO, BUT CHEMISTS WERE TRAINED AT UNIVERSITIES THAT

RECOMMEND PHARMACEUTICALS / DRUGS)

+++You've got to be kidding that chemists are any kind of authority since they

are creating drugs, toxins, chemicals, etc. that are making us all sick.

>

> 2) Pure water (that is, water containing no dissolved ions) is too

unconductive to undergo signficant electrolysis by " water ionizer " devices. (I

DONT KNOW ABOUT THIS, ALL WATER GONE THROUGH THE MACHINE CAN COME OUT WITH A

HIGHER PH)

+++Who cares whether it is a higher ph or not.

I DONT KNOW WHICH MINERALS THE IONIZER MACHINE " SAVES " - I THOUGHT IT WAS A

COMBINATION OF ALL MINERALS..........I WILL ASK AROUND -- AS FAR AS HEAVY METAL

IONS, I HAVE AN EXTRA FILTER TO TAKE OUT THE HEAVY METALS.........)

+++I don't think it is worth the effort to have any water other than natural

minerals from Mother Nature. Our bodies also require silver, gold and other

natural metals, so filtering out heavy metals will deplete them too.

>

> 4) The idea that one must consume alkaline water to neutralize the effects of

acidic foods is ridiculous; we get rid of excess acid by exhaling carbon

dioxide, and there are many functions that regulate acidity/alkalinity levels in

the body, i.e. the kidneys. ( I DONT KNOW IF ITS JUST THAT EASY........WHEN YOU

ARE SICK, THOSE SYSTEMS MAY NOT BE WORKING CORRECTLY.....)

+++Of course those systems may not be working correctly, but you cannot

influence pH levels in the body by ingesting anything, and what corrects those

systems is " proper nutrients " not alkalized substances, including water.

>

> 5) If you do drink alkaline water, its alkalinity is quickly removed by the

highly acidic gastric fluid in the stomach. (HUH... THEN WHY TAKE CALCIUM

MAGNESIUM SUPPLEMENTS OR ANY MINERAL SUPPLEMENT -- THEN WHY DO DIGESTIVE ENZYMES

WORK TO BREAK DOWN FOOD YOU WOULD THINK THE ACID WOULD KILL IT, BUT IT DOES

NOT)

+++Calcium, magnesium and all minerals require acid in order to break them down

in the body. That's why they are in the citrate form, which is the acid that

helps us absorb and utilize them.

+++Digestive Enzymes don't work to break down food in the stomach because they

are neutralized by stomach acid. They only work on the food after the pancreas

makes the stomach contents alkaline by pouring on lots of baking soda. That's

why I only recommend taking hydrochloric acid to help digestion, but not any

digestive enzymes that the pancreas produces.

>

> 6) The environment of the entire intestines is alkaline anyway, since the

pancreas produces high amount of bicarbonate of soda (baking soda) to alkalize

the stomach contents before it produces digestive enzymes. Those digestive

enzymes only work on alkalized food. (WHAT IF YOUR PANCREASE IS NOT WORKING

CORRECTLY....IF YOU ARE SICK / HORMONAL IMBALANCES ETC)

+++You get your pancreas to work better, doing the job it is supposed to do by

mainly cutting out sugars and high-carbs so the pancreas isn't being overworked

by producing insulin. The reason any of the organs in the body malfunction is

because of a depressed immune system, so that's why this program works. It

builds up the immune system so the body can heal itself naturally the way Nature

intended.

>

> 7) If you alkalize the stomach contents there won't be enough hydrochloric

acid in it to trigger the pancreas to produce baking soda and then its enzymes.

(DOES THIS MEAN I SHOULD NOT PUT SEA SALT ON MY FOOD, BECAUSE I USE A LOT ???)

+++Sea salt increases stomach acid.

>

> 8) There is nothing wrong with drinking slightly acidic waters such as

rainwater.

>

> 9) " Body pH " is a meaningless concept; different parts of the body (and even

of individual cells) can have widely different pH values. The pH of drinking

water has zero effect on that of the blood or of the body's cells. (IF YOU

EVER GET CANCER, I BET THE FIRST THING YOU WILL DO IS HYPER ALKALIZE ITS

ALMOST A NATURAL INSTINCT......THE HIGH PH SMOKES OUT CANCER - SOME SAY CANCER

IS A FUNGUS AND OTHERS ACID - EITHER WAY ALKALIZING WILL WORK - THE PROOF REALLY

IS IN THE PUDDING)

+++See this article " The Prime Cause & Prevention of Cancer " which was a lecture

by Otto Warburg who discovered the cause and treatment of cancer:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/cancer4.php

+++The cause is not acidity, instead it is due to a lack of oxygen. That's why

vitamin C cures cancer, because it triggers the body to produce hydrogen

peroxide which oxgenates the body.

Most people make the mistake of thinking they have an acidity issue, when the

issue they really have is toxicity/toxemia.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hey Bee... what about the ability of alkaline water to oxygenate the body due to

the smaller cluster size of the oxygen molecules? The water is not only

alkalinized, but oxygenated as well.

Thanks for the detail!

Doug

[Guest guest]

Hi

Just wanted to share what I learned. Thought I'd share.

the large intestines is on the acidic side in order to harbor healthy

bacteria. These healthy bacteria also produce lactic acid. That is

where LACTO comes in. this prevents over growth of unhealthy bacteria.

I learned a lot about my GI tract because I have dysbiosis. :0(

Have a good day

correy

On May 12, 2009, at 10:36 AM, sak10rama wrote:

>

>

>

>

> I have a water ionizer machine and know that if drink to much water

> I will get a headache and soar neck - dieoff.

>

> I dont understand Bee's repsonse to alkaline water:

>

> Even though that alkaline water appeared to handle your bloating, I

> don't believe it is good for you, for these reasons:

>

> 1) " Ionized water " is nothing more than sales fiction; the term is

> meaningless to chemists. (MAYBE SO, BUT CHEMISTS WERE TRAINED AT

> UNIVERSITIES THAT RECOMMEND PHARMACEUTICALS / DRUGS)

>

> 2) Pure water (that is, water containing no dissolved ions) is too

> unconductive to undergo signficant electrolysis by " water ionizer "

> devices. (I DONT KNOW ABOUT THIS, ALL WATER GONE THROUGH THE

> MACHINE CAN COME OUT WITH A HIGHER PH)

>

> 3) Pure water can never be alkaline or acidic, nor can it be made

> so by electrolysis. (PH BELOW 7.0 IS ACIDIC - TEST THE WATER

> YOURSELF AND WILL SEE THAT 90% OF ALL TAP WATER IS ACIDIC 6 - 6.5)

> Alkaline water must contain metallic ions of some kind — most

> commonly, sodium, calcium or magnesium, which can throw off mineral

> balances and cause problems with taking the correct amounts of

> calcium and magnesium. the sodium will act like a diuretic which

> makes the body get rid of water and also washes out minerals

> (electrolytes). (THIS COULD BE TRUE, I DONT KNOW WHICH MINERALS THE

> IONIZER MACHINE " SAVES " - I THOUGHT IT WAS A COMBINATION OF ALL

> MINERALS..........I WILL ASK AROUND -- AS FAR AS HEAVY METAL IONS,

> I HAVE AN EXTRA FILTER TO TAKE OUT THE HEAVY METALS.........)

>

> 4) The idea that one must consume alkaline water to neutralize the

> effects of acidic foods is ridiculous; we get rid of excess acid by

> exhaling carbon dioxide, and there are many functions that regulate

> acidity/alkalinity levels in the body, i.e. the kidneys. ( I DONT

> KNOW IF ITS JUST THAT EASY........WHEN YOU ARE SICK, THOSE SYSTEMS

> MAY NOT BE WORKING CORRECTLY.....)

>

> 5) If you do drink alkaline water, its alkalinity is quickly

> removed by the highly acidic gastric fluid in the stomach. (HUH...

> THEN WHY TAKE CALCIUM MAGNESIUM SUPPLEMENTS OR ANY MINERAL

> SUPPLEMENT -- THEN WHY DO DIGESTIVE ENZYMES WORK TO BREAK DOWN FOOD

> YOU WOULD THINK THE ACID WOULD KILL IT, BUT IT DOES NOT)

>

> 6) The environment of the entire intestines is alkaline anyway,

> since the pancreas produces high amount of bicarbonate of soda

> (baking soda) to alkalize the stomach contents before it produces

> digestive enzymes. Those digestive enzymes only work on alkalized

> food. (WHAT IF YOUR PANCREASE IS NOT WORKING CORRECTLY....IF YOU

> ARE SICK / HORMONAL IMBALANCES ETC)

>

> 7) If you alkalize the stomach contents there won't be enough

> hydrochloric acid in it to trigger the pancreas to produce baking

> soda and then its enzymes. (DOES THIS MEAN I SHOULD NOT PUT SEA

> SALT ON MY FOOD, BECAUSE I USE A LOT ???)

>

> 8) There is nothing wrong with drinking slightly acidic waters such

> as rainwater.

>

> 9) " Body pH " is a meaningless concept; different parts of the body

> (and even of individual cells) can have widely different pH values.

> The pH of drinking water has zero effect on that of the blood or of

> the body's cells. (IF YOU EVER GET CANCER, I BET THE FIRST THING

> YOU WILL DO IS HYPER ALKALIZE ITS ALMOST A NATURAL

> INSTINCT......THE HIGH PH SMOKES OUT CANCER - SOME SAY CANCER IS A

> FUNGUS AND OTHERS ACID - EITHER WAY ALKALIZING WILL WORK - THE

> PROOF REALLY IS IN THE PUDDING)

>

>

> >

> > I stopped by a health food store near my house to get some Tea

> Tree Oil for Marina, and they guy offered to let us have 3 weeks

> free of alkaline water (ph 8.5 - 9.5) to see how we felt, and then

> they'll try to get me to buy some pyrmamid scheme water system.

> >

> > I looked on the information sheet, and of course, it claims to

> cure many of the same symptoms we all have with candida. I've been

> cheating a lot lately... and with that entails bloat in the evening

> after a cheat. (See my picture in Bee's picture files to see what

> I'm talking about!)

> >

> > Anyway... to my amazement, within 15 minutes of drinking a big

> glass of alkaline water, my bloat is GONE! I go from being able to

> stick my belly way out, as in the picture on Bee's site, to not

> being able to AT ALL! (Actually, my bloat isn't as pronounced now

> as it was in the picture taken pre-diet... but it is still pretty

> bad sometimes).

> >

> > After doing some research, I think there is something to this...

> some sort of Holy Grail we've been looking for. It makes sense...

> we all know baking soda makes candida unable to thrive, but we

> can't do too much of it because it messes up our sodium balance.

> But this water changes the ph in your gut so candida simply cannot

> live there, according to what I've read. No baking soda... it uses

> platinum filters or something.

> >

> > By the way, Marina's menstrual cramping was so bad last month

> that an ambulance came to the house at 2:00 am because she was

> screaming like her appendix ruptured or something... which will

> cost me more than $600 in deductables!!! THIS month, I don't know

> if it was the water or the diet, she had a lot more bleeding than

> normal for her, but no pain whatsoever. Probably like a normal

> period is supposed to be like! Coincedence??

> >

> > I'm going to continue to use it for another week, and then

> perhaps try to find an alkaline water system that I won't have to

> take a second mortgage on the house to afford.

> >

> > A quick google search of " candida alkaline water " pulls up plenty

> of info. I've read your articles on ph, Bee... but haven't seen

> anything on alkaline water.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> > Doug

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hey Bee... what about the ability of alkaline water to oxygenate the body due

to the smaller cluster size of the oxygen molecules? The water is not only

alkalinized, but oxygenated as well.

>

> Thanks for the detail!

>

+++Hi Doug. I wouldn't spend money on it since you can increase oxygenation

easily with vitamin C which makes the body produce more hydrogen peroxide

(oxygen), and also with vitamin E, niacin, B2, B5 - see the end of this article

about cancer which explains this:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/cancer4.php

But remember no nutrients work alone; they all require others in order to help.

Bee