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Lynda,

Fingers and toes are crossed that you don't lose the hair. MIL

hasn't weighed this much (or less) in so many years that my husband

doesn't ever remember seeing her that skinny - my husband will be 36

this month.

I hope the mouth sores go away too. They hurt I am sure! I still

have the issues where my tounge feels swollen and it bugs the heck

out of me, so I can't imagine what the sores would be like.

I'll pray it subsides in time for your trip. I hope you have a

restful, peaceful, healing and happy time.

Love, Lynn

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> > > > > >Lynda,

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> > > > > >Wow! . . . I can't imagine going through this! . . . You

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> > > > > >strong, and stay strong to make it!

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> > > > > >You are one of the strongest women I've met in the implant

mess

> > > > > >though! . . . You're going to get through it -but with more

> > > >anguish

> > > > > >than a soul should deal with.

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> > > > > >Would the patches they use for motion sickness help with

> >nausea?

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> > > > > >Hugs and prayers,

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> > > > > >Rogene

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Lynn,

I might gain a bit back when I can eat. My stomach has shrunk so

much this last 5 months I eat very small meals.

My feet are a bit better, and my mouth is not too bad. I think the

symptoms may ease up soon. I think I just had them early. For most

people they don't start until after 5 days or so after treatment, and

mine started within 2 days.

I hope this goes away very soon. I am already sooooooooo tired of

this and it is only the first treatment.

Lynda

At 04:17 PM 2/5/2008, you wrote:

>Lynda,

>

>Fingers and toes are crossed that you don't lose the hair. MIL

>hasn't weighed this much (or less) in so many years that my husband

>doesn't ever remember seeing her that skinny - my husband will be 36

>this month.

>

>I hope the mouth sores go away too. They hurt I am sure! I still

>have the issues where my tounge feels swollen and it bugs the heck

>out of me, so I can't imagine what the sores would be like.

>

>I'll pray it subsides in time for your trip. I hope you have a

>restful, peaceful, healing and happy time.

>

>Love, Lynn

>

>

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> > > > > > >Lynda,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Wow! . . . I can't imagine going through this! . . . You

>have

> > >to

> > > > >be

> > > > > > >strong, and stay strong to make it!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >You are one of the strongest women I've met in the implant

>mess

> > > > > > >though! . . . You're going to get through it -but with more

> > > > >anguish

> > > > > > >than a soul should deal with.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Would the patches they use for motion sickness help with

> > >nausea?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Hugs and prayers,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Rogene

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

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[Guest guest]

i only want to say that breast cancer can sit there 10 years before they find

it.dr mercola says that mamography can cause cancer(he is not the only one).to

control it is better thermogarphy.

i wish you a lot of wisdom in this difficult times.

>

> Hi all,

> Haven't talked to you in a while.  Been busy with the holidays and now have my

daughter and 3 year old grand daughter living with me.  Crazy around here!!

> Just an update.  I've been on LDN since last May working up to full dose in

August.  My MS has been pretty steady with no major setbacks.  So that's the

good news.

> The bad news is, I went for my yearly mamo and they spotted something.  That

led to ultrasound and a biopsy.  I got a call yesterday telling me I have Ductal

Carcinoma.  I meet with a surgeon later today to see if it's invasive or not and

what the next step is. 

> I'm not quite sure what to think.  Is the LDN not working (I thought it helped

to prevent this) or did this cancer start before I started the LDN and maybe the

LDN has kept it controlled.

> Any thoughts on the LDN issue and I sure could use some good thoughts in

general.  I'm pretty freaked out.

>

> Take Care,

> Tonette

> SPMS

> Beautiful Rocky Mountains, Colorado

>

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>

> Hi all,

> Haven't talked to you in a while.  Been busy with the holidays and now have my

daughter and 3 year old grand daughter living with me.  Crazy around here!!

> Just an update.  I've been on LDN since last May working up to full dose in

August.  My MS has been pretty steady with no major setbacks.  So that's the

good news.

> The bad news is, I went for my yearly mamo and they spotted something.  That

led to ultrasound and a biopsy.  I got a call yesterday telling me I have Ductal

Carcinoma.  I meet with a surgeon later today to see if it's invasive or not and

what the next step is. 

> I'm not quite sure what to think.  Is the LDN not working (I thought it helped

to prevent this) or did this cancer start before I started the LDN and maybe the

LDN has kept it controlled.

> Any thoughts on the LDN issue and I sure could use some good thoughts in

general.  I'm pretty freaked out.

>

> Take Care,

> Tonette

> SPMS

> Beautiful Rocky Mountains, Colorado

>==============

Have your yeast load checked, a yeast problem would need to be addressed

immediately. Also, sugar fuels yeast and cancer.

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Hi Tonette,

You may be iodine deficient, most of us are. Check out this site for loads of info on successfully treating breast cancer with iodine. http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/iodineindex.html Also there is a very good group on iodine. iodine/

All the best to you.

in Albuquerque

>> Hi all,> Haven't talked to you in a while. Been busy with the holidays and now have my daughter and 3 year old grand daughter living with me. Crazy around here!!> Just an update. I've been on LDN since last May working up to full dose in August. My MS has been pretty steady with no major setbacks. So that's the good news.> The bad news is, I went for my yearly mamo and they spotted something. That led to ultrasound and a biopsy. I got a call yesterday telling me I have Ductal Carcinoma. I meet with a surgeon later today to see if it's invasive or not and what the next step is. > I'm not quite sure what to think. Is the LDN not working (I thought it helped to prevent this) or did this cancer start before I started the LDN and maybe the LDN has kept it controlled.> Any thoughts on the LDN issue and I sure could use some good thoughts in general. I'm pretty freaked out.> > Take Care,> Tonette> SPMS> Beautiful Rocky Mountains, Colorado>

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That's the problem with one drug thats said to cure so many different

things. There is not evidence

for all of it and little for some of it. You take you chances until

blind studies are made. People getting

the placebos often due better even tests.

I have to take all this with a grain of salt until there is some

evidence, and that goes for coconut oil too.

Jeanette

Bren wrote:

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>> Hi all,

>> Haven't talked to you in a while. Been busy with the holidays and now have

my daughter and 3 year old grand daughter living with me. Crazy around here!!

>> Just an update. I've been on LDN since last May working up to full dose in

August. My MS has been pretty steady with no major setbacks. So that's the

good news.

>> The bad news is, I went for my yearly mamo and they spotted something. That

led to ultrasound and a biopsy. I got a call yesterday telling me I have Ductal

Carcinoma. I meet with a surgeon later today to see if it's invasive or not and

what the next step is.

>> I'm not quite sure what to think. Is the LDN not working (I thought it

helped to prevent this) or did this cancer start before I started the LDN and

maybe the LDN has kept it controlled.

>> Any thoughts on the LDN issue and I sure could use some good thoughts in

general. I'm pretty freaked out.

>>

>> Take Care,

>> Tonette

>> SPMS

>> Beautiful Rocky Mountains, Colorado

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>

> Have your yeast load checked, a yeast problem would need to be addressed

immediately. Also, sugar fuels yeast and cancer.

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Jeanette has some valid points. We must all be realistic in that LDN is not a cure-all for everything. Boosting the imune system certainly should have its benefits, but one should not put all their eggs in this basket, especially in cancer. There are so many types that it has been stated many times there will be many cures for cancer, not one or two. LDN in addition to some modalities may be very beneficial, it depends on if there are any specific meds or chemo involved that might cancel each other out.

The real issue here is if this is invasive. Non-invasive ductal CA is one of the easiest to cure before it spreads. Invasive requires a bit more treatment. The good potential here is that it was spotted on a routine screening mammo - BEFORE a lump was discovered. Traditional medicine at work - even if it is invasive the earlier the stage the better chance for full cure.

Lets hope for some good news and our best thoughts are with you.

Bob C> > >> Hi all,>> Haven't talked to you in a while. Been busy with the holidays and now have my daughter and 3 year old grand daughter living with me. Crazy around here!!>> Just an update. I've been on LDN since last May working up to full dose in August. My MS has been pretty steady with no major setbacks. So that's the good

news.>> The bad news is, I went for my yearly mamo and they spotted something. That led to ultrasound and a biopsy. I got a call yesterday telling me I have Ductal Carcinoma. I meet with a surgeon later today to see if it's invasive or not and what the next step is. >> I'm not quite sure what to think. Is the LDN not working (I thought it helped to prevent this) or did this cancer start before I started the LDN and maybe the LDN has kept it controlled.>> Any thoughts on the LDN issue and I sure could use some good thoughts in general. I'm pretty freaked out.>>>> Take Care,>> Tonette>> SPMS>> Beautiful Rocky Mountains, Colorado>> ============ ==>> >> Have your yeast load checked, a yeast problem would need to be addressed immediately. Also, sugar fuels yeast and cancer.>>>>> ------------ --------- ---------

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The good thing about LDN is that; it a very low dose drug and thus, practically has very little, if any, side effects, and despite the many anecdotal cases where people with different illnesses get a substantial benefit, there are practically no anecdotes about people actually being worse off by taking LDN (unless they take it outside of the instructions at their own risk).

That means if you are lucky it may work for you, so I see no "problem" in this, you can get better, but you will not get worse. Of course we would be much better off, if we had the relevant trials to see its effectiveness in a more statistical and scientific manner, but we all know why the trials are not being held (politics and conflict of interest for pharma industry). For the time being we have to live with this as it is.

Regarding Tonette's case there are different possibilities. She mentions to have been taking proper dose LDN since August, so as she already says the cancer may have arrived before starting LDN and the LDN may or may not have kept it under control (we can not know, we can only know whether LDN has an effect on your cancer if you stay on LDN alone - which is probably not advisable in this situation- and the tumor regresses in the next scan).

Another possibility is that although the MS seems stable after LDN, this would have been no different without the LDN, i.e for some reason the LDN does not help you with MS and/or cancer (candida issues, the proper dosing of LDN etc. have to addressed in this case).

The third possibility is that LDN works with the MS, but for some reason did not have an effect on the cancer yet. This could be for different reasons, maybe your tumor doesn't have enough opioid receptors,maybe said opioid receptors develop only after the tumor gets larger or maybe LDN simply needs more time to work.

My advice as a person having gone through this with my wife would be : Try to take it as positive as possible and find a visionary doctor that can address all treatment options (including LDN) in an integrated manner.

> > >> Hi all,>> Haven't talked to you in a while. Been busy with the holidays and now have my daughter and 3 year old grand daughter living with me. Crazy around here!!>> Just an update. I've been on LDN since last May working up to full

dose in August. My MS has been pretty steady with no major setbacks. So that's the good news.>> The bad news is, I went for my yearly mamo and they spotted something. That led to ultrasound and a biopsy. I got a call yesterday telling me I have Ductal Carcinoma. I meet with a surgeon later today to see if it's invasive or not and what the next step is. >> I'm not quite sure what to think. Is the LDN not working (I thought it helped to prevent this) or did this cancer start before I started the LDN and maybe the LDN has kept it controlled.>> Any thoughts on the LDN issue and I sure could use some good thoughts in general. I'm pretty freaked out.>>>> Take Care,>> Tonette>> SPMS>> Beautiful Rocky Mountains, Colorado>> ============ ==>> >> Have your yeast load checked, a yeast problem would need to be addressed immediately. Also, sugar fuels

yeast and cancer.>>>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------>>

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I don't recall ever having heard LDN " cures " anything.

On the contrary, we use LDN so as to still be alive to

benefit from the " cure " that will be in the future.

Jaco

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> >   

> >> Hi all,

> >> Haven't talked to you in a while.  Been busy

> with the holidays and now have my daughter and 3 year old

> grand daughter living with me.  Crazy around here!!

> >> Just an update.  I've been on LDN since last

> May working up to full dose in August.  My MS has been

> pretty steady with no major setbacks.  So that's the

> good news.

> >> The bad news is, I went for my yearly mamo and

> they spotted something.  That led to ultrasound and a

> biopsy.  I got a call yesterday telling me I have

> Ductal Carcinoma.  I meet with a surgeon later today to

> see if it's invasive or not and what the next step is. 

>

> >> I'm not quite sure what to think.  Is the LDN

> not working (I thought it helped to prevent this) or did

> this cancer start before I started the LDN and maybe the LDN

> has kept it controlled.

> >> Any thoughts on the LDN issue and I sure could use

> some good thoughts in general.  I'm pretty freaked

> out.

> >>

> >> Take Care,

> >> Tonette

> >> SPMS

> >> Beautiful Rocky Mountains, Colorado

> >> ==============

> >>     

> >

> > Have your yeast load checked, a yeast problem would

> need to be addressed immediately.  Also, sugar fuels

> yeast and cancer.

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Tonette,

Hey, I live in the "Beautiful Rocky Mountains " as well. I read your entry and sympathize with your diagnosis. I am a breast cancer survivor (diagnosed in 1996 at a young age for this kind of cancer), had three local recurrences within the first 3 years, but have been doing just fine since then. I am just starting on LDN (it's in the mail to strengthen my immune system to prevent reurrence in the future and for some mild symptoms of Fibromyalgia and I am seeing a Neurologist for MS symptoms, but have not been diagnosed through testing at this point (it maybe something else).

I approched my cancer with Alternative Treatment only, no chemo (but radiation at one point, which I regret now). I did a lot of research and tried different approaches until something worked. I am a strong believer in Alternative Medicine, but every individual is different and a good health care provider with a holistic view is best. If you feel like talking you can email me at regina777@....

Take care

Regina

Regina

5825 Road

Colorado Springs, CO

719-640-1635

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Cancer

I don't recall ever having heard LDN "cures" anything.

On the contrary, we use LDN so as to still be alive to

benefit from the "cure" that will be in the future.

Jaco

> >

> >

> >> Hi all,

> >> Haven't talked to you in a while. Been busy

> with the holidays and now have my daughter and 3 year old

> grand daughter living with me. Crazy around here!!

> >> Just an update. I've been on LDN since last

> May working up to full dose in August. My MS has been

> pretty steady with no major setbacks. So that's the

> good news.

> >> The bad news is, I went for my yearly mamo and

> they spotted something. That led to ultrasound and a

> biopsy. I got a call yesterday telling me I have

> Ductal Carcinoma. I meet with a surgeon later today to

> see if it's invasive or not and what the next step is.

>

> >> I'm not quite sure what to think. Is the LDN

> not working (I thought it helped to prevent this) or did

> this cancer start before I started the LDN and maybe the LDN

> has kept it controlled.

> >> Any thoughts on the LDN issue and I sure could use

> some good thoughts in general. I'm pretty freaked

> out.

> >>

> >> Take Care,

> >> Tonette

> >> SPMS

> >> Beautiful Rocky Mountains, Colorado

> >> ==============

> >>

> >

> > Have your yeast load checked, a yeast problem would

> need to be addressed immediately. Also, sugar fuels

> yeast and cancer.

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>> had three local recurrences within the first 3 years, but have been doing just fine since then.<<

Regina, this is interesting. Did you have the recurrences surgically excised?

Bob C> > > > > >> Hi all,> >> Haven't talked to you in a while. Been busy> with the holidays and now have my daughter and 3 year old> grand daughter living with me. Crazy around here!!> >> Just an update. I've been on LDN since last> May working up to full dose in August. My MS has been> pretty steady with no major setbacks. So that's the> good news.> >> The bad news is, I went for my yearly

mamo and> they spotted something. That led to ultrasound and a> biopsy. I got a call yesterday telling me I have> Ductal Carcinoma. I meet with a surgeon later today to> see if it's invasive or not and what the next step is. > > >> I'm not quite sure what to think. Is the LDN> not working (I thought it helped to prevent this) or did> this cancer start before I started the LDN and maybe the LDN> has kept it controlled.> >> Any thoughts on the LDN issue and I sure could use> some good thoughts in general. I'm pretty freaked> out.> >>> >> Take Care,> >> Tonette> >> SPMS> >> Beautiful Rocky Mountains, Colorado> >> ============ ==> >> > >> > Have your yeast load checked, a yeast problem

would> need to be addressed immediately. Also, sugar fuels> yeast and cancer.> >> >> >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >> >

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Hi,

Thanks for your reply.

I wasn't saying that LDN was a cure. I'm not sure about that at all.............YET.

I was asking what everyone thought about if he LDN isn't working as a preventative in my case or if possibly this cancer started before I started the LDN and maybe the LDN has kept it controlled. Just wondering if the cancer beast may have grown a lot without the LDN.Just a topic for discussion.

Take Care,TonetteSPMSBeautiful Rocky Mountains, Colorado> > >> >>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------>>

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Jeannette,

My Dr who prescribes LDN for me and has worked with Dr Bihari

was diagnosed with stomach or colon cancer (can’t remember which) and he

started taking LDN and the cancer was eliminated. He puts it down to LDN and I

think you’ll find a number of people who suffer from cancer LDN has helped halt

the progression. Perhaps join the LDN_4_Cancer??

Best,

Jayne

Please sign the petition to the UK Govt to fund trials for LDN

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/LowDNaltrexone/

From: low dose naltrexone

[mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of Jeanette

Sent: 06 March 2009 01:06

low dose naltrexone

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Cancer

My point was I don't know you could be making

yourself worse. There is

no evidence to support LDN and Cancer.

Jeanette

Tonette wrote:

> Hi,

> Thanks for your reply.

> I wasn't saying that LDN was a cure. I'm not sure about that at

> all.............YET.

> I was asking what everyone thought about if he LDN isn't working as a

> preventative in my case or if possibly this cancer started before I

> started the LDN and maybe the LDN has kept it controlled. Just

> wondering if the cancer beast may have grown a lot without the LDN.

> Just a topic for discussion.

>

> Take Care,

> Tonette

> SPMS

> Beautiful Rocky Mountains, Colorado

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I have a family member that has cancer, not doing too well, and is going to start radiation for the 2nd time. Would it be safe to give her MMS transdermally with DSMO? Has anyone tried this? She is experiencing major migraines and would somehow like to ease her pain. Thanks for any help....Orrilia

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Aside from cancer, I would say with regard to migraines,

look at magnesium and iodine, as the lack of those covers a large amount of the

possible migraine causes.

I think MMS would be good to take at the same time as other

therapies, and may even reduce the side effects. If I had cancer I would take

MMS, but I would also run several other protocols as well. I can document

those if you like, but it will take a while, so will only do if of interest.

Take care

>>I have a family member that has cancer, not doing too well, and is

going to start radiation for the 2nd time. Would it be safe to give her

MMS transdermally with DSMO? Has anyone tried this? She is

experiencing major migraines and would somehow like to ease her pain.

Thanks for any help....Orrilia

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Hi Gloria

Heres what I think.

First thing.....your going to be ok.

Its never fun going under the knife, but the wait and worry is the worst part.

Here is some info for you to look at.

Search - radio frequency ablation liver

http://search./search?ei=utf-8 & fr=slv8-tyc7 & p=radio%20frequency%20ablation%20liver & type=

Gloria, let me tell you about doctors like this guy.

He excites me.

Their minds are on one thing - what they need to do.

This is good.

Who cares if he has a bedside manner.

What you want is the best care you can get, and this guy sounds like it.

I had a doctor who treated me for the West Niles Virus, I have spoken about.

West Nile Meningitis is all about one's brain, thats where the infection is.

He was a total asshole. And I mean TOTAL.

But you know what?

I found out that they had flown him in all the way from the Georgia CDC to care for me.

He was the best in the country on WNV.

He had a one track mind.

His focus was to be admired, although his personality sucked.

Now I understand your concern, and need for reassurance.

Thats totally human, and I truely wish he was a nicer doctor.

But this doctor sounds like he is already concentrating on the procedure.

And thats good.

The one day, in and out, possibly means that your operation is already a tried/true method.

I spoke to you before about how far Medical Science has come in cancer treatment.

They have come a long long ways, and have been working on it almost 100 years.

A lot longer than HCV.

Most cancers/tumors, even in the heart and brain are treatable, and curable.

I told you that some of my family have had cancers, and they have all been cured.

My Mom did die years after hers, but it never came back, and she died of old age/heart attack.

And she just had an old country doctor too.

Your doctor sounds top notch.

I also bet that doctor gave the nurses an ass reaming about your records not being in your folder.

He was probably gone so long so he could scan the info about you, prior to talking with you again.

Gloria, I just feel in my gut, that your going to come through this just fine.

I dont think God is done with you yet.

I am blasting you with love, peace, and good 'ol, good energy.

Hang in there my friend, your going to be ok.

love

don in ks

From: Gloria <gadamscan@...>Subject: [ ] Cancer Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 12:56 AM

Don and GangI gotta finally get off my chest what happened with my visit to a surgeon last Wednesday!! After 3 weeks of waiting and wondering and researching, I was actually a bit excited to finally get to hear the actual treatment that they might be proposing. Also, I thought I could ask questions about the reasons etc. WELL, that's not the way it happened!!!We arrive a little before the appointed time, because I always know that their will be a questionnaire that the Dr. will want filled out. As I was doing that, even my Clinician came over to talk with us, because the HepC Clinic, is the first stop on the way to this surgeon's office....So, we go into one of those little examining rooms and of course, they shut the door!!! My hubby is very uncomfortable in any medical setting at the best of times; but, I think the closed door was making it worse. Told him to open it, like I

always do - but he was shy.Finally, this surgeon comes in, followed by a young lady in a lab coat. The jackass doesn't even bother to introduce her and very quickly she became the elephant in the room. I thought that was particularly rude!!! However, he opens my file and all he finds is those two sheets that I had just filled in!!!! Now, what in the devil is that going to tell him??? Quickly he says, OH, do you mind if I just go and look you up on the computer?? What are we supposed to say - NO? So off he goes for what felt like another eternity. I simply can not understand why he had not reviewed his patients of that day, prior to our visits. Or, if it's more convenient to keep the information on the computer like a lot of Drs. do, then at least have access to it from that room!!! By this time, hubby's butt was hurting from sitting so long, so he opens the door and decides to go find

the washroom. At the same time as he gets back, so does the Dr. and "whats her name". This Dr. almost looks annoyed both times he came into the room, because my husband is there as well. Now, from all that I could gather, this demi-god had decided in that 20 - 25 mins, that he knew all he needed to about my cancer and proceeded to TELL me what he planned... TELL ME... He sure wasn't a happy camper when I started asking questions and he made that fairly plain... Then, when I described the procedure that my friend was having that day in , his mood got particularly cross.In the end, he did explain that the procedure is called Radio-frequency Ablation. However, he really figured that he would not be able to get at either tumour doing it laparscopically and would make that decision when I was in the operation. He even showed me the type of cut that he thought he'd have to make and yet, even warned me

that he might actually decide to cut the largest tumour out. I did try to impress upon him that if there was a high possibility the procedure would not be decidely successful, I was fully prepared for a resection!!!However, not that I wasn't already annoyed with the rush to get us away; but, his receptionist hands me a couple of pieces of paper. The important one is suggesting that this Ablation was done in Day Surgery!!! Well, now I'm absolutely confused!!! Did he not just tell me that he would have to cut??? Is there some kind of medical miracle that I don't know about, where they can actually cut your abdominal wall up near the liver and it's still only Day Surgery??? The small tumour is actually already pressing on the Portal Vein and the spot where that is, is up under the rib cage quite aways. Or does he think that I have nothing better to do with my life than plan to be in Vancouver for Day

Surgery and end up being there over a week or two or ????I complained via e-mail to my local HepC nurse and knew that she would pass it on to the Clinic's nurse. Turns out, she did answer me; but, they were both in Toronto for a Conference and my Gastro was due to speak the next day at the event. However, she did say one thing I could grasp. "Remember, Gloria, lots of these kinds of Drs only see the liver, not the patient around it". So, now I'm just waiting until early next week, to get some action from my Gastro!! I am even willing to go back over there for another appointment with my Gastro, if he's willing to explain this decision to me... One lady that I converse with suggested that I shouldn't need to do that; but, talk again with the Surgeon even from home.

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Gloria if you are not comfortable get another doctor or talk to him, I just went thru a nightmare with my 11yr old and his surgery. We'd been seeing this neurosurgeon for years and he was always cockey but the day of surgery he was an ass and something said don't go thru with it. I should have listened. After he screwed up my son's brain surgery he tried to send him home and told me he fix it in 2 weeks. Of course I didn't leave and got another doctor to redue surgery after my son coded out and was stabilized enough. Now my son has been having seizures, I should've listened to my heart.If you don't feel safe and like he cares look around or talk to him.The first gastro I saw admitted she didn't know alot and showed me the check list of test for tx. That I respected, her honesty and she got me into Hopkins. By all means you don't need stress you are still recouping from tx. It is YOUR life not theirs.

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Thank you PamThink I'll spend the rest of this afternoon and evening, makeing notes regarding my concerns and regarding the other options etc. Then, I can ensure that both my Gastro and this Surgeon have those notes and I should get some answers then.What do you mean your 11 yr old son's "brain" surgery??? My heaven's, that would be the absolute ultimate to me!! I'd be a basket case and then some. Somehow, it's a little less intense when it's me; but, if it was my son - I'd be screaming the roof down and then some!! In fact, not that my boy ever faced anything as serious as brain surgery' but, I did learn how to make my presence known to some of these clowns, when he went through his ear and eye surgeries!!GloriaGloria if you are not comfortable get another doctor or talk to him, I just went thru a nightmare with my 11yr old and his surgery. We'd been seeing this neurosurgeon for years and he was always cockey but the day of surgery he was an ass and something said don't go thru with it. I should have listened. After he screwed up my son's brain surgery he tried to send him home and told me he fix it in 2 weeks. Of course I didn't leave and got another doctor to redue surgery after my son coded out and was stabilized enough. Now my son has been having seizures, I should've listened to my heart.If you don't feel safe and like he cares look around or talk to him.The first gastro I saw admitted she didn't know alot and showed me the check list of test for tx. That I respected, her honesty and she got me into Hopkins. By all means you don't need stress you are still recouping from tx. It is YOUR life not theirs.

Pam

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OH I screamed and then some. The first doctor was sooo cockey and actually said he performs hundreds of these a year and it was no big deal! He has a vp shunt and had the whole thing replaced from brain to belly. We think (and thank God I always get all scans for my records) he rammed the metal probe to guide the shunt to hard and it went thru his brain, I'm in the process of 2nd opinions, the jerk had a Bahama conference to go to and was going to send him home until I flipped and got another doctor.

Even a simple procedure a doctor should show respect and a caring nature. You've been thru the ringer and this doctor should be mindful of that and at the least more compasionate!

I got my 11yr old when he was 1 1/2, he was my crack head sisters and she was only 23 weeks along when he was born so I've learned doctors are probably the most screwed up bunch! I feel like I know you and I'm quite sure you'll adjust that doc's attitude or find another.

My labs got lost so I have to do them again. They didn't do a viral load but rest looks great. The stress in the ICU broke my hands out so I know the Riba's still in deep! I'm a first at Hopkins for the worst Riba Rash the doc said I should be proud for the riba rash award. That's a nice twisted bunch of doc's, they 're funny as hell and would drop on a dime if you called to even to ask stupids questions. Pam

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OMG Pam this poor boy was born at 23 weeks to a crack addict??? Lawd, it has to be your love that has kept him alive!! We have a granddaughter that is now 11 and was born to a total drug addict/alcoholic. She came into the care of my step-son and his wife when she had been weaned from the addiction at about 1 month old. Then, they adopted her a couple of years later. Unfortunately, hubby and I have never been allowed to get to know her all that well. Her mother is definitely a head-case and believes that only her and the step-son or their other sons can possibly look out for her. It's actually extremely sad!!I so agree with you about Dr's. However, it appears that it is only a pipe dream that these kind, could show any

compassion for the human being around the problem. Yes, I probably will adjust to this one's attitude because when you think about it - I saw him last Wednesday and there will be no reason to lay eyes on him again until a CAT scan in June which probably will be overseen by my Gastro.Tell those bunch of comedians that probably your extreme case of "riba rash" is a lot more due to the stresses in your life!!! It's no laughing matter at all.But, we are both fighters and will make it all the way through these dark tunnels. We'll just make a whole lot of noise as we go LOLGotta tell you, thanks very much for being in my corner!!! This past weekend has been quite depressing for some reason.. It didn't help that my step-son called here this afternoon, while his father was napping and was vey brusk with me. When I stumpled through finally spitting

out that his Dad was napping, he started the usual, "just tell him....." I'd hung up by then.... Spoke to my hubby later and he said he'll talk with him tonight... But, you know what - I think I just won't answer the phone when either of his kids call, as I already do with one of the sisters.Just talking with my son on MSN and he was saying that sometimes he almost felt guilty for not pushing harder to get closer to his steps... Told him that it would have been a waste of time on his part, obviously!!! Didn't say though, that he went through enough to find his self-esteem, so I couldn't imagine if he had put any kind of expectation to having a relationship with these two!!!! Even their half-brother wants no relationship with them.Gloria

OH I screamed and then some. The first doctor was sooo cockey and actually said he performs hundreds of these a year and it was no big deal! He has a vp shunt and had the whole thing replaced from brain to belly. We think (and thank God I always get all scans for my records) he rammed the metal probe to guide the shunt to hard and it went thru his brain, I'm in the process of 2nd opinions, the jerk had a Bahama conference to go to and was going to send him home until I flipped and got another doctor.

Even a simple procedure a doctor should show respect and a caring nature. You've been thru the ringer and this doctor should be mindful of that and at the least more compasionate!

I got my 11yr old when he was 1 1/2, he was my crack head sisters and she was only 23 weeks along when he was born so I've learned doctors are probably the most screwed up bunch! I feel like I know you and I'm quite sure you'll adjust that doc's attitude or find another.

My labs got lost so I have to do them again. They didn't do a viral load but rest looks great. The stress in the ICU broke my hands out so I know the Riba's still in deep! I'm a first at Hopkins for the worst Riba Rash the doc said I should be proud for the riba rash award. That's a nice twisted bunch of doc's, they 're funny as hell and would drop on a dime if you called to even to ask stupids questions. Pam

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reg lung cancer: Dr. Mercola at mercola.com has helped someone overcome lung cancer but not with MMS, for your info.From: pappisoffi <pappisoffi@...> Sent: Thu, March 18, 2010 6:04:41 PMSubject:

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Does anyone have some suggestions to how to treat lungcancer and metastaes with the mms1 and mms2?

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Hm, does anyone have some suggestions to how to treat ANY cancer and metastaes

with the mms1 and mms2?

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There are several options--I think the best is taking it orally as in the descriptions on Jim's web site, and in the archives here, but there is also an external application called OCC--overnight cancer cure. I'm not very sure this works anywhere near as good as taking MMS1 internally, but it may very well be different for different people.

It's just that I knew a lady with uterine cancer that did the original OCC and though she felt a bit better afterwards, it did nothing to stop or even slow the tumor growth.

I have given MMS1 drops to 2 different cats that had tumors in their stomachs. Whether these tumors were cancer or not, I don't know as I didn't take them to the vet. But both cats' tumors disappeared. One cat had one tumor golf ball size and the other cat had one that size and one a bit smaller. I just put the drops in their food twice a day. One tumor disappeared in 2 weeks, the other 3 in 2 more weeks.

I have no experience with MMS2.

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, that is great about your cats. I just want to make sure about this, but the drops placed in the cats' food were activated with citric acid? I want to try this with my dog for detoxing. She will not take it in water or straight in the mouth. thanks for the great info Orrilia

From: <gaiacita@...> Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 2:46:02 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Re: cancer

There are several options--I think the best is taking it orally as in the descriptions on Jim's web site, and in the archives here, but there is also an external application called OCC--overnight cancer cure. I'm not very sure this works anywhere near as good as taking MMS1 internally, but it may very well be different for different people.

It's just that I knew a lady with uterine cancer that did the original OCC and though she felt a bit better afterwards, it did nothing to stop or even slow the tumor growth.

I have given MMS1 drops to 2 different cats that had tumors in their stomachs. Whether these tumors were cancer or not, I don't know as I didn't take them to the vet. But both cats' tumors disappeared. One cat had one tumor golf ball size and the other cat had one that size and one a bit smaller. I just put the drops in their food twice a day. One tumor disappeared in 2 weeks, the other 3 in 2 more weeks.

I have no experience with MMS2.

samala,

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Hi Orillia. (pretty name)

Yes, I just mixed 1 drop with 5 drops of 10% citric acid liquid. Let it sit 3 minutes and then mixed it into some tuna fish, because that's a big treat for them, and they would just gobble it down.

Same for my dogs. For dogs it is 3 drops for every 25 pounds of weight (any size cat is only 1 drops MMS before mixing). Just make sure it is mixed into some treat that they don't get very often, or that they love. They take it much better in food than trying to squirt it down their throats.

If you dog is sick though, don't start with a full dose. Say your dog is 50 pounds, that would be 6 drops MMS. But they can get diarrhea and vomiting too, so start lower than the 6 drops and build up.

Same for cats. Start slow and see what happens. Mine tolerated the 1 drop of MMS just fine. But my Dad, who had leukemia and diabetes, could only tolerate 1 drop, at 2 it made him sick! So just keep checking on your fur kid.

 samala,

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, that is great about your cats. I just want to make sure about this, but the drops placed in the cats' food were activated with citric acid? I want to try this with my dog for detoxing. She will not take it in water or straight in the mouth.