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Hi Ivan. Welcome to our group. Even if you do not have candida this

program will help improve your health. That's why I set up my

website and called it Healing Naturally by Bee. After 4 years of

owning this group I found people were curing many problems

miraculously!

My own ulcers, acid reflux, hiatal hernia were healed on this program

too, and many others have experienced the same. Here's a Success

Story that might encourage you:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/ss2a.php

The best to you, Bee

>

> Hi Bee/All,

>

> I am relatively new to the group but not new to the topic of Candida

> and systemic yeast. I have followed a Candida diet for over a year

but

> it wasn't as strict as this one and ended up here like many others

> looking for help.

>

> Here is my story in brief:

>

> Never had any stomach problems or sensitivites to foods growing up.

> Was never a sickly person. About 2 1/2 years ago I was diagnosed

with

> Helicobacter Pylori and stomach ulcers. Treatment was heavy

> antibiotics for 7 days (Nexium HP7) followed by 3 months of Somac

> (protein pump inhibitor). At this time I also stopped smoking and

ate

> a healthy diet and didn't drink any alcohol.

>

> After being given the all clear for ulcers following a follow up

> endoscopy I stoopped all medications and all was well. 6 weeks

later I

> started getting terrible bloating, facial numbness, severe heartburn

> (never had this before in my life). Gastroenterologist presribed

more

> ppi's Somac, Pariet, Nexium but nothing helped.

>

> After 9 months of agony and waking with acid in my mouth and

feeling a

> sick all over I finally got frustrated with Doctors and sought

> alternative information on the web and stumbled upon Candida. I

bought

> some Oil of Oregano oil and was a bit better, no dieting. This

seemed

> to be the answer but of course without dieting it didn't work for

long.

>

> About June last year I decided to follow a Candida diet and use Pau

> Darco Tea, Oil of oregano, caprilyic acid and many other things like

> probiotics through trial and error.

>

> A year on I am still unable to get better for long (I may have

pushed

> my luck a bit trying foods I had craved once I thought I was well).

> Also the diet I followed was not as strict as the one here (I ate

nuts

> and pumkin seeds) and I wasn't taking supplements as recommended

here.

>

> Now here is my dilemma, the candida dieting seems to work for me

> (after a short period of Herxheimer reactions) but even when I take

> massive amounts of anti fungals I don't feel significanly terrible

as

> would be expected. I also have a very strong immune system and have

> had maybe 1 minor flu in the last two years. My score on the Dr

Crooks

> test is only 10 or so points above the cut off.

>

> I've basically tried so many things but can't seem to get well. I've

> recently seen a Allergy Specialist who confirmed I had no food

> allergies (from his testing) but I did react to Grasses, moulds, and

> slightly to milk (which I haven't had for two years).He like all

> doctors I have visited (8) does not believe in this Candida concept

> and wants to get me to try slowly introducing things like fruit to

my

> diet.

>

> Hope that all makes sense, I'm basically hoping someone has some

ideas

> out there.

>

>

> Ivan

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> Hi Ivan. Welcome to our group. Even if you do not have candida this

> program will help improve your health. That's why I set up my

> website and called it Healing Naturally by Bee. After 4 years of

> owning this group I found people were curing many problems

> miraculously!

>

> My own ulcers, acid reflux, hiatal hernia were healed on this program

> too, and many others have experienced the same. Here's a Success

> Story that might encourage you:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/ss2a.php

>

> The best to you, Bee

Hi Bee,

Thanks for your response. I do intend on following your system as I

have read a lot of success stories which are encouraging.

Just a couple of questions.

Is it unlikely to have a systemic yeast problem without a weakened

immune system?

I work full time and because I can't bring leftovers to work or

microwave food it's difficult to follow the system strictly.

Everything seems to be asian or sandwich shops wherever you go. I

mostly eat some form of roast meat and steamed veges (broccoli) from a

carvery. Do you or anyone have any ideas on how to combine full time

work with the diet?

Thanks

Ivan

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> Hi Bee,

>

> Thanks for your response. I do intend on following your system as I

> have read a lot of success stories which are encouraging.

>

> Just a couple of questions.

>

> Is it unlikely to have a systemic yeast problem without a weakened

> immune system?

+++Hi Ivan. That would be impossible, because a healthy immune

system keeps candida " in check, " i.e. in its normal state, which is

round and not growing hypae (long feet) and which is a friendly

inhabitant in the mucus membranes. That's why candida isn't cured

by " killing it off. " It is only cured by building up the immune

system so it becomes strong enough to " make " candida " change back " to

the friendly organism it is supposed to be in the body.

>

> I work full time and because I can't bring leftovers to work or

> microwave food it's difficult to follow the system strictly.

> Everything seems to be asian or sandwich shops wherever you go. I

> mostly eat some form of roast meat and steamed veges (broccoli)

from a carvery. Do you or anyone have any ideas on how to combine

full time work with the diet?

+++Try doing a Message Archive Search (on the group's website at the

top of the messages) since this has been discussed many times

before. Try " lunches " " lunch. "

You can buy an inexpensive one burner hot plate to keep at work, or

take hot foods in a good thermos. A toaster oven is good too; they

can be picked up at garage sales.

Bee

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I work am away from home from 7:30am until usually 10pm. I got used to eating my

home cooked meals at room temp. Why does quinoa and veggies or chicken and....

have to be warm? It's nice indeed but I think it's also a comfort thing that can

be overcome just like us having to give up sugars. I bring at least 2 meals to

work daily when I have to be strictly on the diet....

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> +++Try doing a Message Archive Search (on the group's website at the

> top of the messages) since this has been discussed many times

> before. Try " lunches " " lunch. "

>

> You can buy an inexpensive one burner hot plate to keep at work, or

> take hot foods in a good thermos. A toaster oven is good too; they

> can be picked up at garage sales.

>

> Bee

>

Thanks. I kept searching for 'work' and there were just too many

messages to search through.

Ivan

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> I work full time and because I can't bring leftovers to work or

> microwave food it's difficult to follow the system strictly.

> Thanks

> Ivan

>

+++ Why can't you bring your own lunch to work?

Marissa

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> +++ Why can't you bring your own lunch to work?

>

> Marissa

>

Hi Marissa,

I never knew what I could bring it because I assumed everything I had

to eat had to be fresh cooked. I bought a Thermos yesterday and will

start to bring things in that. Any good suggestions of things to bring

would be appreciated. Also I had been drinking the whole egg drink in

the morning in one go (I never realised people had it over the day haha).

Ivan

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> I never knew what I could bring it because I assumed everything I

had to eat had to be fresh cooked. I bought a Thermos yesterday and

will start to bring things in that. Any good suggestions of things to

bring would be appreciated. Also I had been drinking the whole egg

drink in the morning in one go (I never realised people had it over

the day haha). Ivan

Ivan, you could stew or fry a whole pkg of chicken, breasts or

legs, whatever pieces you like. Then wrap each piece individually &

freeze. Grab a couple pieces each morning & take to work. They'll

defrost maybe by lunchtime. Take a whole tomato too. Susie

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> Ivan, you could stew or fry a whole pkg of chicken, breasts or

> legs, whatever pieces you like. Then wrap each piece individually &

> freeze. Grab a couple pieces each morning & take to work. They'll

> defrost maybe by lunchtime. Take a whole tomato too. Susie

>

Thanks. I just assumed eating cold food that was pre-prepared was a no

-no. Thanks for the advice.

Ivan

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.. Any good suggestions of things to bring

> would be appreciated. Also I had been drinking the whole egg drink in

> the morning in one go (I never realised people had it over the day haha).

>

> Ivan

>

I also have to bring one to two meals with me daily for work. I usually bring

one egg drink

with extra butter in it in a thermos (I also use only one cup of hot water, this

makes it extra

thick and creamy). I also bring sea salt and a lemon to make my electrolyte

drink. Then I

bring one to two containers of beef chili/chicken breasts with red pepper

sauce/stuffed bell

peppers/etc..... also some veggies sauteed in butter. An avocado or a tomato

with sea salt

and lemon juice is a good quick snack, as are hard boiled eggs with sea salt and

fresh

pepper.

I eat my food at room temp, I don't use a microwave ever.

All the recipes are on Bee's site.

Best!

Marissa

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> >

> > Ivan, you could stew or fry a whole pkg of chicken, breasts or

> > legs, whatever pieces you like. Then wrap each piece individually &

> > freeze. Grab a couple pieces each morning & take to work. They'll

> > defrost maybe by lunchtime. Take a whole tomato too. Susie

> >

>

>

> Thanks. I just assumed eating cold food that was pre-prepared was a no

> -no. Thanks for the advice.

>

Hi Ivan. The caution is related to leftovers, which can grow mold.

But some candida sufferers are not as sensitive to mold, while others

are extremely sensitive. Leftovers even for mold sensitive people are

okay in the fridge for 2 days.

Bee

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> I eat my food at room temp, I don't use a microwave ever.

>

> All the recipes are on Bee's site.

>

> Best!

> Marissa

>

I had better start experimenting with cooking. Thanks. I'm going to

give this program a 100% effort. Previously before finding this place

I made the mistake of still drinking Diet Coke occasionally and eating

nuts and seeds and many bad vegetables like carrots. I've wasted a

year but even that change has helped.

Thanks all.

Ivan

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Hi everyone,

Just wanted to share some info with everybody which may be helpful. I

followed Bee's plan and got better whilst on the diet etc. A month ago

I went away and circumstances arose where I ended up breaking my diet.

To my surprise I was fine after eating pizza. For some reason I

couldn't stop there and continued on other stuff I shouldn't have had

for weeks. Then eventually small signs appeared of things going wrong

again (numb face, difficulty waking up) which usually happens before

the bloating and heartburn return.

I have been working with an allergy specialist who is very open to

things I have learnt here who suggested I try getting Vitamin B12

injections. After my first shot the following day I woke up well. The

day after that the facial numbness went away.

On new years eve I must have had 10 cakes and some alcohol (I can be

my own worst enemy when it comes to helping my self heal) but so far

I'm well. I've had some return of the facial numbness but after

another injection it goes away.

Apparently b12 can assist with

Increase energy levels

Improve sleep

Reduce stress

Enhance growth and repair of all cells

Aid in metabolism of carbohydrates and fats

Improve protein synthesis

Improve immune function

Increase mental alertness

Possibly my problem has been problems absorbing B12 (maybe a result of

PPI medication).

I've just ordered some Methylcobalamin which is the type of B12 my

doctor suggested which I'll have when he returns from Xmas holidays.

So far I've had Cyanocobalamin which cost me 15 dollars for three

shots and any GP can inject it.

I'll keep you all posted on experiences over the next few months.

Best wishes to all and happy new year.

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Could it also be that your candida is growing back and the B12 is just

masking it. I also strayed off of the diet and all of my symptoms came

back full force. It started with me eating two french fries and did

well and from there it went on.

Finally one day it just hit me like a ton of bricks.

Are you back on the diet?

Phyllis

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> Just wanted to share some info with everybody which may be helpful. I

> followed Bee's plan and got better whilst on the diet etc. A month ago

> I went away and circumstances arose where I ended up breaking my diet.

> To my surprise I was fine after eating pizza. For some reason I

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Hi Phylis

Personally I came to the conclusion that candida was not my problem. I

knew the diet was helping me but it didn't necessarily mean that

candida was the cause. As a test I decided to eat vast amounts of

garic one day to see what would happen. I ate 5 cloves of garlic and

did not experience any sever die off. This would be impossible if my

problem was candida.

My current thinking is that my liver wasn't producing sufficient bile

and enzymes which caused undigested food to ferment in my gut. Some

candida may have overgrown as a result but as I said earlier in this

thread I have a strong immune system so I never felt I was overrun by

candida.

Bee's program definitely helped my digestion and the minerals from

bone broths and eggs and the supplements etc. was very helpful but in

my case candida was not the root cause.

I'm still doing fine. I've eaten so many things I previously couldn't

so I am enjoying some success. I still don't allow myself to totally

stray from the high protein and good fat diet though.

Anyhow just some info for everyones consideration.

Ivan

>

> Could it also be that your candida is growing back and the B12 is just

> masking it. I also strayed off of the diet and all of my symptoms came

> back full force. It started with me eating two french fries and did

> well and from there it went on.

> Finally one day it just hit me like a ton of bricks.

> Are you back on the diet?

>

> Phyllis

>

>

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> > Could it also be that your candida is growing back and the B12 is just

> > masking it. I also strayed off of the diet and all of my symptoms came

> > back full force. It started with me eating two french fries and did

> > well and from there it went on.

> > Finally one day it just hit me like a ton of bricks.

> > Are you back on the diet?

> >

> > Phyllis

> >

________________________________________

Hi Phylis/Bee/All

Just wanted to update this thread letting everyone know my magical summer of

being able to eat whatever I wanted came to an end. Unfortunately the B12

probably was masking some of the candida symptoms. I'm back on Bee's system

which I'm going to keep following (I guess I was in denial and hoping there

would be an easy way out). Anyhow I feeling quite positive (the vitamins seem to

do wonders with mood - even when I'm in pain!) so hopefully some time in the

future I can happily report my success. Best of luck to all.

Ivan

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