Re: Vit c flush/Baking soda overdose?

[Guest guest]

Thanks , that makes sense. I was incredibly thirsty afterwards

and have been drinking water all day. I'm starting to feel better now.

I think i'll give these a miss from now on; while they can be

beneficial I don't want to go through this again!

>

> Matt I would say they are symptoms of Vit C overdose not bicarb. This

> happened to me and i didn't even use bicarb at all. When you take

> megadoses of ascorbic it draws water to the intestines to flush the

> excess acid. As a result one becomes extremely dehydrated, i mean

> CHRONIC dehydration. You definitely took more than your fair share,

> sounds like well over 20,000mgs to me, that's heaps. The ascorbic acid

> would have depleted your body (including muscles, hence the muscle

> aches) of water. Dehydration can indeed bring about chronic headaches.

> It is also incredibly difficult to quench the dehydration because your

> body will keep flushing any water you drink in order to remove the

> excess acid. My headache lasted 24 hours, instead of drinking large

> glasses of water, just keep sipping all day till you feel better. I

> would also take some bioflavonoids because straight ascorbic/bicarb

> depletes your body of these important free-radical-scavengers (rutin,

> hesperidin etc).

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

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Do you recommend this flush with straight ascorbic or can you do this

with capsules containing the hesperdin, rutin etc.?

-- In , " nathan_kellett "

<nathan_kellett@...> wrote:

>

> Haha, that's EXACTLY what i said when it happened to me. But honestly

> they can be very rewarding. I would suggest giving it a break for a

> few weeks. Next time start slow and steady, finding your exact bowel

> tolerance is a must. Take 1000mg every hour till you pass some fluid,

> it 's a slow process but stress free do it on a day when you don't

> have any commitments). Then, next time you can just take the

> established value in one hit, it is a much more pleasant experience

> then. I was rough with my numbers and just called it 4 heaped

> teaspoons, works like clockwork every time now!

>

[Guest guest]

This helps shed some light. I try not to take anything in tablets as I

don't think they digest well.

I noticed when I was taking Vit C and bicarb my eyes would be puffy in

the morning and I was thinking maybe this was a sodium imbalance but I

was only taking about 2 tsp a day, total. How much bicarb does it take

to throw off mineral balance? Does anyone know? Also, can we still do

sea salt when doing the vit c/bicarb mixture?

Thanks!

>

> This is only my personal opinion, others may want to chime in but i

> believe tablet form ascorbic acid is nearly useless. I am not sure why

> to be honest but past experience and experimentation speaks for

> itself. I took over 15,000mgs of ascorbic in tablet form once without

> even the slightest response (it was as if i didn't even take one), but

> when i used straight ascorbic acid 1 got a flush after 9,000mgs. I

> have experimented with and without bicarb and got similar results,

> however recent word is that taking such large amounts of bicarb can

> throw off mineral balances. As a result I limit my bicarb usage to

> half a level teaspoon max, regardless of how much ascorbic. The reason

> I do this is because a lot of research suggests ascorbic needs to be

> buffered for appropriate absorbtion, combine this with the fear of

> mineral imbalance and we all just wind up confused. I would suggest

> finding your bowel tolerance, adding no more than a teaspoon of bicarb

> to the solution, and getting capsule form (not tablet, open the

> capsule and dump it into the ascorbic/bicarb mix) bioflavonoids (which

> help assimilation also). Then take a little ascorbic/bioflavs with

> your next meal after the flush (to top up any bioflavs/vit c lost

> during the flush).

>

[Guest guest]

>

> This helps shed some light. I try not to take anything in tablets

as I

> don't think they digest well.

> I noticed when I was taking Vit C and bicarb my eyes would be puffy

in

> the morning and I was thinking maybe this was a sodium imbalance

but I

> was only taking about 2 tsp a day, total. How much bicarb does it

take

> to throw off mineral balance? Does anyone know? Also, can we still

do

> sea salt when doing the vit c/bicarb mixture?

==>Hi . Occasionally I take baking soda for a stomach upset,

and for me it doesn't take much to throw off mineral balances, i.e.

less than 1 teaspoon. The main sign my mineral balances are off are

muscle tightness and cramps. Of course I do not have a thyroid which

interferes with the utilization of calcium.

It is better not to mix ascorbic acid (vitamin C) with baking soda;

take ascorbic acid without it, but have it with meals because it can

be hard on the stomach and also rinse your mouth well afterward

because it can be hard on the teeth.

Since sea salt contains sodium + chloride if you take ascorbic acid

mixed with baking soda you would get too much sodium but if you cut

out sea salt you wouldn't get chloride (one of the 7 macrominerals)

nor the other minerals in it. So it is tricky to play around with

taking baking soda except for short-term treatments.

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Thanks for shedding some light, Bee!

Ps. I found out today I have a hernia which is somewhat of a relief as

I thought it was a mass in my intestines. I'm wondering if there's any

prep to building my body before surgery that anyone knows of?

I'm only a few weeks into the diet so still quite tired and worried

that they'll want to give me antibiotics or that the anesthetic will

set me back.

Any suggestions would be great!

> >

> > This helps shed some light. I try not to take anything in tablets

> as I

> > don't think they digest well.

> > I noticed when I was taking Vit C and bicarb my eyes would be puffy

> in

> > the morning and I was thinking maybe this was a sodium imbalance

> but I

> > was only taking about 2 tsp a day, total. How much bicarb does it

> take

> > to throw off mineral balance? Does anyone know? Also, can we still

> do

> > sea salt when doing the vit c/bicarb mixture?

>

> ==>Hi . Occasionally I take baking soda for a stomach upset,

> and for me it doesn't take much to throw off mineral balances, i.e.

> less than 1 teaspoon. The main sign my mineral balances are off are

> muscle tightness and cramps. Of course I do not have a thyroid which

> interferes with the utilization of calcium.

>

> It is better not to mix ascorbic acid (vitamin C) with baking soda;

> take ascorbic acid without it, but have it with meals because it can

> be hard on the stomach and also rinse your mouth well afterward

> because it can be hard on the teeth.

>

> Since sea salt contains sodium + chloride if you take ascorbic acid

> mixed with baking soda you would get too much sodium but if you cut

> out sea salt you wouldn't get chloride (one of the 7 macrominerals)

> nor the other minerals in it. So it is tricky to play around with

> taking baking soda except for short-term treatments.

>

> The best, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

> Thanks for shedding some light, Bee!

>

> Ps. I found out today I have a hernia which is somewhat of a relief

as I thought it was a mass in my intestines. I'm wondering if

there's any prep to building my body before surgery that anyone knows

of?> I'm only a few weeks into the diet so still quite tired and

worried that they'll want to give me antibiotics or that the

anesthetic will set me back. Any suggestions would be great!

==>, where in your intestines is the hernia located? In any

case you might not have to resort to surgery, depending upon whether

it is protruding through the abdominal wall to the outside.

Nutrients will eventually strengthen and normalize the area so the

hernia will subside. In the meantime you can wear a type of girdle

or brace to support the area.

I don't suggest you rush into surgery unless your condition is life

threatening or extremely painful.

Bee

[Guest guest]

> >

> >

> > Thanks for shedding some light, Bee!

> >

> > Ps. I found out today I have a hernia which is somewhat of a relief

> as I thought it was a mass in my intestines. I'm wondering if

> there's any prep to building my body before surgery that anyone knows

> of?> I'm only a few weeks into the diet so still quite tired and

> worried that they'll want to give me antibiotics or that the

> anesthetic will set me back. Any suggestions would be great!

>

> ==>, where in your intestines is the hernia located? In any

> case you might not have to resort to surgery, depending upon whether

> it is protruding through the abdominal wall to the outside.

> Nutrients will eventually strengthen and normalize the area so the

> hernia will subside. In the meantime you can wear a type of girdle

> or brace to support the area.

>

> I don't suggest you rush into surgery unless your condition is life

> threatening or extremely painful.

>

> Bee

>

The hernia is on my far right side, mid-torso. I will take your

suggestion to heart and not rush into surgery. However, my bowels are

quite broken and not full and sometimes the bulging of it puts

pressure on my liver which causes discomfort. I did not realize that

this could normalize itself. That is definitely not what they lead you

to believe!

[Guest guest]

--- In , " bbaldwin_30 " <bbaldwin_@...>

> >

> The hernia is on my far right side, mid-torso. I will take your

> suggestion to heart and not rush into surgery. However, my bowels are

> quite broken and not full and sometimes the bulging of it puts

> pressure on my liver which causes discomfort. I did not realize that

> this could normalize itself. That is definitely not what they lead you

> to believe!

==>Hi . I suggest you do wear a girdle or brace to support the

area in the meantime. Our bodies can heal miraculously when we provide

it with the nutrients it needs and eliminate toxins so it can do its

job. Proper nutrients will even correct/change DNA/genes - they don't

want us to believe that either! That would cut down their profits too

much. LOL!

It's back to nature for us my friend!

Luv & Hugs, Bee

[Guest guest]

FWIW I had a hernia opp about 3 months back...it was pretty easy.

I asked the Doc if I could avoid antibiotics & he said that wasnt a prob...as

for the anaesthetic , there was no drama's there & I am a person who has had a

history of serious chemical allergies in the past.

I entered the hospital in the afternoon ...had the opp that night at about

6.30pm ...(I was on the opp table & anaethesized for less than 1 Hour)...I slept

that night in the hospital ... & went home the next morn.

It was easier than I expected but I did feel pretty fragile for almost a week

following the opp...(If you are not careful when walking etc it is fairly tender

for the first week)...

Depending on your hernia , some can keep protruding (very slowly)more every

time you do some heavy work (if you dont get the tear repaired) ... & since I am

always engaged in heavy work ..in maintaining the property where I live ..I

chose to have an operation.

Posted by: " bbaldwin_30 " bbaldwin_@... bbaldwin_30

Mon Jun 2, 2008 7:15 am (PDT)

> >

> >

> > Thanks for shedding some light, Bee!

> >

> > Ps. I found out today I have a hernia which is somewhat of a relief

> as I thought it was a mass in my intestines. I'm wondering if

> there's any prep to building my body before surgery that anyone knows

> of?> I'm only a few weeks into the diet so still quite tired and

> worried that they'll want to give me antibiotics or that the

> anesthetic will set me back. Any suggestions would be great!

>

> ==>, where in your intestines is the hernia located? In any

> case you might not have to resort to surgery, depending upon whether

> it is protruding through the abdominal wall to the outside.

> Nutrients will eventually strengthen and normalize the area so the

> hernia will subside. In the meantime you can wear a type of girdle

> or brace to support the area.

>

> I don't suggest you rush into surgery unless your condition is life

> threatening or extremely painful.

>

> Bee

>

The hernia is on my far right side, mid-torso. I will take your

suggestion to heart and not rush into surgery. However, my bowels are

quite broken and not full and sometimes the bulging of it puts

pressure on my liver which causes discomfort. I did not realize that

this could normalize itself. That is definitely not what they lead you

to believe!