Hair

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Kayla, yes i saw your emails after your Surgery... I am glad to hear that you are doing better... and i giggled at your "hero" comment and told my roomate about it. I have seen pic's of little kids after surgery and it looks pretty dramatic.... i am thinking i can really play this one up with friends.... though in seriousness i have very scared about the surgery... the last time i "went under' i was 5 and stoped breathing... so my mom has always said NO SURGERY unless its not optional!.... so i am pretty freaked... though i know that things in the OR have gotten better over the last 22 years. How many days was it until you could shower and wash your hair? this is going to freak me out...b/c i have to wash my hair every morning... it drives me nuts if i dont! Kayla <kayscatwillow12000@...> wrote: Hi Naomi. I just had my surgery this past Thursday on the 11th. My hair isn't too long, but it's long enough to have gotten in the way. I didn't think about wearing it up so I left mine down. I just got to take the big "Hero" bandage off from my head yesterday and was allowed to wash my hair. I would think that you should keep it up because my hair was all kinds of nasty. Not to gross you out or anything, but there was all kinds of dried blood and stuff in it. So to answer your question, I would personally say to leave it up. ~Kayla~> > nornal activities back into my life. Driving. Returning to work. > > Returning to my normal exercise routine. Listening to music. > > Reading.> > Unless you have unusual complications, you shouldn't have to wait

too > long for most of those. Probably won't want to do any of them the day > of. The next day you will probably be up to reading, music, that sort of > thing. Might be a few days for exercise and driving.> > > And how I'll occupy myself during my waking hours before I return to > > work/routine.> > Reading, TV, Internet. The usual stuff I guess, unless you're a very > active person.> > > I'm sort of in a holding pattern right now, until I get the surgery > > over with and know what I have to deal with.> > I'd say go out and do your normal things until then. Don't let it hold > your life back.> > > Pre-op food: What's a good healthy pre-op meal (for dinner the > > night before the surgery)? Anything to avoid?> > Whatever makes you feel good. There's no real food implications

with > this surgery, so if a good steak will make you feel good, go for it.> > > Post-op food: What type of foods do you like to have around after > > the surgery? I want to plan now, so I don't have to be a pest about > > running to the grocery after.> > Things that are easy to eat. Depending on the length of your surgery, > you may have a bit of a sore throat, so warm liquids, jello, that kind > of thing will probably be pretty good. The first day you probably won't > feel much like eating anyway, so just something that's real easy to eat > that gets calories into you.> > > On a much lighter note: I'm looking forward to my post-op haircut. > > Not sure how soon it will come, but I'm more than ready for a summer > > cut. My hair is WAY too long now. Just wanted to wait and see

how > > my "head" will look after surgery. I'm kind of curious what > > hairstyle strategies others have used before and after their surgery.> > If you like a buzz cut, it will fit right in. > they'll probably shave about an inch behind your ear.> > > My name is Sandy, I'm 48 years of age, and I live in Louisiana. > > Hi Sandy, welcome to the group.> > > > >

[Guest guest]

A word of advice, though I'm not medico... ask the anaesthetist to check your record, see what meds, etc., you were given back then, and they will just avoid them this time... technology and medicines have come on in leaps and bounds since then; you are unlikely to have any problems.

All the best

Kazzy :-)

Re: Hair

Kayla, yes i saw your emails after your Surgery... I am glad to hear that you are doing better... and i giggled at your "hero" comment and told my roomate about it. I have seen pic's of little kids after surgery and it looks pretty dramatic.... i am thinking i can really play this one up with friends.... though in seriousness i have very scared about the surgery... the last time i "went under' i was 5 and stoped breathing... so my mom has always said NO SURGERY unless its not optional!.... so i am pretty freaked... though i know that things in the OR have gotten better over the last 22 years.

How many days was it until you could shower and wash your hair? this is going to freak me out...b/c i have to wash my hair every morning... it drives me nuts if i dont!

Kayla <kayscatwillow12000@...> wrote:

Hi Naomi. I just had my surgery this past Thursday on the 11th. My hair isn't too long, but it's long enough to have gotten in the way. I didn't think about wearing it up so I left mine down. I just got to take the big "Hero" bandage off from my head yesterday and was allowed to wash my hair. I would think that you should keep it up because my hair was all kinds of nasty. Not to gross you out or anything, but there was all kinds of dried blood and stuff in it. So to answer your question, I would personally say to leave it up. ~Kayla~> > nornal activities back into my life. Driving. Returning to work. > > Returning to my normal exercise routine. Listening to music. > > Reading.> > Unless you have unusual complications, you shouldn't have to wait too > long for most of those. Probably won't want to do any of them the day > of. The next day you will probably be up to reading, music, that sort of > thing. Might be a few days for exercise and driving.> > > And how I'll occupy myself during my waking hours before I return to > > work/routine.> > Reading, TV, Internet. The usual stuff I guess, unless you're a very > active person.> > > I'm sort of in a holding pattern right now, until I get the surgery > > over with and know what I have to deal with.> > I'd say go out and do your normal things until then. Don't let it hold > your life back.> > > Pre-op food: What's a good healthy pre-op meal (for dinner the > > night before the surgery)? Anything to avoid?> > Whatever makes you feel good. There's no real food implications with > this surgery, so if a good steak will make you feel good, go for it.> > > Post-op food: What type of foods do you like to have around after > > the surgery? I want to plan now, so I don't have to be a pest about > > running to the grocery after.> > Things that are easy to eat. Depending on the length of your surgery, > you may have a bit of a sore throat, so warm liquids, jello, that kind > of thing will probably be pretty good. The first day you probably won't > feel much like eating anyway, so just something that's real easy to eat > that gets calories into you.> > > On a much lighter note: I'm looking forward to my post-op haircut. > > Not sure how soon it will come, but I'm more than ready for a summer > > cut. My hair is WAY too long now. Just wanted to wait and see how > > my "head" will look after surgery. I'm kind of curious what > > hairstyle strategies others have used before and after their surgery.> > If you like a buzz cut, it will fit right in. > they'll probably shave about an inch behind your ear.> > > My name is Sandy, I'm 48 years of age, and I live in Louisiana. > > Hi Sandy, welcome to the group.> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi. The hair thing is always a big deal for me during

surgery. The best thing I've done is 2 french braids,

it kept my hair out of the way and I could leave them

in for a few days after surgery w/o a problem. The

surgeon even appreciated it. Just make sure that

whatever you do, you won't be laying on anything (part

of the braid or a rubber band. If you do you will

have a horrible headache!!

--- Kayla <kayscatwillow12000@...> wrote:

> Hi Naomi. I just had my surgery this past Thursday

> on the 11th. My

> hair isn't too long, but it's long enough to have

> gotten in the

> way. I didn't think about wearing it up so I left

> mine down. I

> just got to take the big " Hero " bandage off from my

> head yesterday

> and was allowed to wash my hair. I would think that

> you should keep

> it up because my hair was all kinds of nasty. Not

> to gross you out

> or anything, but there was all kinds of dried blood

> and stuff in

> it. So to answer your question, I would personally

> say to leave it

> up.

>

> ~Kayla~

>

>

>

> > > nornal activities back into my life. Driving.

> Returning to

> work.

> > > Returning to my normal exercise routine.

> Listening to music.

> > > Reading.

> >

> > Unless you have unusual complications, you

> shouldn't have to wait

> too

> > long for most of those. Probably won't want to do

> any of them the

> day

> > of. The next day you will probably be up to

> reading, music, that

> sort of

> > thing. Might be a few days for exercise and

> driving.

> >

> > > And how I'll occupy myself during my waking

> hours before I

> return to

> > > work/routine.

> >

> > Reading, TV, Internet. The usual stuff I guess,

> unless you're a

> very

> > active person.

> >

> > > I'm sort of in a holding pattern right now,

> until I get the

> surgery

> > > over with and know what I have to deal with.

> >

> > I'd say go out and do your normal things until

> then. Don't let it

> hold

> > your life back.

> >

> > > Pre-op food: What's a good healthy pre-op meal

> (for dinner the

> > > night before the surgery)? Anything to avoid?

> >

> > Whatever makes you feel good. There's no real food

> implications

> with

> > this surgery, so if a good steak will make you

> feel good, go for

> it.

> >

> > > Post-op food: What type of foods do you like to

> have around

> after

> > > the surgery? I want to plan now, so I don't

> have to be a pest

> about

> > > running to the grocery after.

> >

> > Things that are easy to eat. Depending on the

> length of your

> surgery,

> > you may have a bit of a sore throat, so warm

> liquids, jello, that

> kind

> > of thing will probably be pretty good. The first

> day you probably

> won't

> > feel much like eating anyway, so just something

> that's real easy

> to eat

> > that gets calories into you.

> >

> > > On a much lighter note: I'm looking forward to

> my post-op

> haircut.

> > > Not sure how soon it will come, but I'm more

> than ready for a

> summer

> > > cut. My hair is WAY too long now. Just wanted

> to wait and see

> how

> > > my " head " will look after surgery. I'm kind of

> curious what

> > > hairstyle strategies others have used before and

> after their

> surgery.

> >

> > If you like a buzz cut, it will fit right in.

> > they'll probably shave about an inch behind your

> ear.

> >

> > > My name is Sandy, I'm 48 years of age, and I

> live in

> Louisiana.

> >

> > Hi Sandy, welcome to the group.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Had my pre-op at the hospital yesterday, and they told me nothing to

tie my hair back would be allowed.

On another note, my surgery is Wednesday. I'm supposed to " watch "

my 92-yr-old grandfather who has Alzheimer's on Th night for a few

hours, and most of the day Sat and Sun.

TH night means nothing more than making sure he doesn't wander off,

and calling for help if he falls or something. Maybe a trip down

the stairs to get something before he goes to bed.

Sat and Sun will mean preparing simple meals (sandwiches, warmed up

leftovers), giving him meds, and several trips up and down the

stairs most likely.

Should we bring in a sitter for Sat and Sun night?

Regards,

Sandy

> > > > nornal activities back into my life. Driving.

> > Returning to

> > work.

> > > > Returning to my normal exercise routine.

> > Listening to music.

> > > > Reading.

> > >

> > > Unless you have unusual complications, you

> > shouldn't have to wait

> > too

> > > long for most of those. Probably won't want to do

> > any of them the

> > day

> > > of. The next day you will probably be up to

> > reading, music, that

> > sort of

> > > thing. Might be a few days for exercise and

> > driving.

> > >

> > > > And how I'll occupy myself during my waking

> > hours before I

> > return to

> > > > work/routine.

> > >

> > > Reading, TV, Internet. The usual stuff I guess,

> > unless you're a

> > very

> > > active person.

> > >

> > > > I'm sort of in a holding pattern right now,

> > until I get the

> > surgery

> > > > over with and know what I have to deal with.

> > >

> > > I'd say go out and do your normal things until

> > then. Don't let it

> > hold

> > > your life back.

> > >

> > > > Pre-op food: What's a good healthy pre-op meal

> > (for dinner the

> > > > night before the surgery)? Anything to avoid?

> > >

> > > Whatever makes you feel good. There's no real food

> > implications

> > with

> > > this surgery, so if a good steak will make you

> > feel good, go for

> > it.

> > >

> > > > Post-op food: What type of foods do you like to

> > have around

> > after

> > > > the surgery? I want to plan now, so I don't

> > have to be a pest

> > about

> > > > running to the grocery after.

> > >

> > > Things that are easy to eat. Depending on the

> > length of your

> > surgery,

> > > you may have a bit of a sore throat, so warm

> > liquids, jello, that

> > kind

> > > of thing will probably be pretty good. The first

> > day you probably

> > won't

> > > feel much like eating anyway, so just something

> > that's real easy

> > to eat

> > > that gets calories into you.

> > >

> > > > On a much lighter note: I'm looking forward to

> > my post-op

> > haircut.

> > > > Not sure how soon it will come, but I'm more

> > than ready for a

> > summer

> > > > cut. My hair is WAY too long now. Just wanted

> > to wait and see

> > how

> > > > my " head " will look after surgery. I'm kind of

> > curious what

> > > > hairstyle strategies others have used before and

> > after their

> > surgery.

> > >

> > > If you like a buzz cut, it will fit right in.

> > > they'll probably shave about an inch behind your

> > ear.

> > >

> > > > My name is Sandy, I'm 48 years of age, and I

> > live in

> > Louisiana.

> > >

> > > Hi Sandy, welcome to the group.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

>Our hair is black and I'm curious what it does to

>other hair colors. Could you please let me know? With

>black hair, well, it remains black. But I know that

>observing from my students blonde turns to kind of

>brunette and golden in the summer. would coconut oil

>have any effect? (know this is kind of silly but im

>just curious)

>redPanda17

Well, I'm natural blonde, have been using it in my hair/scalp

regularly for some time, and I haven't noticed any colour change. I

leave it in for about an hour before washing...

[Guest guest]

LOL thanks for your time! maybe the benefit is ...

deep conditioning! kind of like the hot oil treatment?

but i will wait some more till the seasons change LOL.

im just so fascinated with my students hair sometimes

because it turns into deep gold. I tease them that we

could sell it on ebay.

--- Jasmina <list@...> wrote:

>

> >Our hair is black and I'm curious what it does to

> >other hair colors. Could you please let me know?

> With

> >black hair, well, it remains black. But I know that

> >observing from my students blonde turns to kind of

> >brunette and golden in the summer. would coconut

> oil

> >have any effect? (know this is kind of silly but im

> >just curious)

> >redPanda17

>

> Well, I'm natural blonde, have been using it in my

> hair/scalp

> regularly for some time, and I haven't noticed any

> colour change. I

> leave it in for about an hour before washing...

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Can get dry clean shampoo (Shiseido has) to help out during the first few days. After surgery effect is different for all of us, if you feel giddy, best to seek help for someone else to check on your grandfather. Best of luck to your surgery. haveacatch <mollyandra@...> wrote: Had my pre-op at the hospital yesterday, and they told me nothing to tie my hair back would be allowed. :(On another note, my surgery is Wednesday. I'm supposed to "watch" my 92-yr-old grandfather who has Alzheimer's on Th night for a few hours, and most of the day Sat and Sun.TH night means nothing more than making sure he doesn't wander off, and calling for help if he falls or something. Maybe a trip down the stairs to

get something before he goes to bed.Sat and Sun will mean preparing simple meals (sandwiches, warmed up leftovers), giving him meds, and several trips up and down the stairs most likely.Should we bring in a sitter for Sat and Sun night?Regards,Sandy> > > > nornal activities back into my life. Driving. > > Returning to > > work. > > > > Returning to my normal exercise routine. > > Listening to music. > > > > Reading.> > > > > > Unless you have unusual complications, you> > shouldn't have to wait > > too > > > long for most of those. Probably won't want to do> > any of them the > > day > > > of. The next day you will probably be up to> > reading, music, that > > sort of > > > thing. Might be a few days for exercise and> > driving.> > > > > > > And

how I'll occupy myself during my waking> > hours before I > > return to > > > > work/routine.> > > > > > Reading, TV, Internet. The usual stuff I guess,> > unless you're a > > very > > > active person.> > > > > > > I'm sort of in a holding pattern right now,> > until I get the > > surgery > > > > over with and know what I have to deal with.> > > > > > I'd say go out and do your normal things until> > then. Don't let it > > hold > > > your life back.> > > > > > > Pre-op food: What's a good healthy pre-op meal> > (for dinner the > > > > night before the surgery)? Anything to avoid?> > > > > > Whatever makes you feel good. There's no real food> > implications

> > with > > > this surgery, so if a good steak will make you> > feel good, go for > > it.> > > > > > > Post-op food: What type of foods do you like to> > have around > > after > > > > the surgery? I want to plan now, so I don't> > have to be a pest > > about > > > > running to the grocery after.> > > > > > Things that are easy to eat. Depending on the> > length of your > > surgery, > > > you may have a bit of a sore throat, so warm> > liquids, jello, that > > kind > > > of thing will probably be pretty good. The first> > day you probably > > won't > > > feel much like eating anyway, so just something> > that's real easy > > to eat > > > that gets calories into

you.> > > > > > > On a much lighter note: I'm looking forward to> > my post-op > > haircut. > > > > Not sure how soon it will come, but I'm more> > than ready for a > > summer > > > > cut. My hair is WAY too long now. Just wanted> > to wait and see > > how > > > > my "head" will look after surgery. I'm kind of> > curious what > > > > hairstyle strategies others have used before and> > after their > > surgery.> > > > > > If you like a buzz cut, it will fit right in. > > > they'll probably shave about an inch behind your> > ear.> > > > > > > My name is Sandy, I'm 48 years of age, and I> > live in > > Louisiana. > > > > > > Hi Sandy,

welcome to the group.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Is your hair long enough that you could have someone french braid it and leave the pony tail holders off until you get out of surgery?

It may get a bit messy looking, but would probably feel better than having blood and gunk in your hair.

my 5 year old son, Miles, had ctoma surgery earlier this year...his hair is short, but still got a little bit of crap matted in it. I think it will depend on how much your ear discharges after surgry.

Good luck.

Joycelyn

haveacatch <mollyandra@...> wrote:

Had my pre-op at the hospital yesterday, and they told me nothing to tie my hair back would be allowed.

[Guest guest]

My hair is plenty long enough for some sort of braiding. It's long

and thick. I'm just not very good at it, and neither is anyone I

know that's close enough to get to before the surgery. I might try

something, though. Braid it tight, over the crown, and sleep on it

the night before. Just take out the bands before surgery. Even if

doc didn't like it, I could take it down, and just comb it over.

And maybe having been braided would help it lay flat and out of the

way.

Thanks for the suggestion.

As for " dry clean shampoo " , I've heard of it, but never seen it.

Where would you find it?

Thanks for all your help. Spending time thinking about the little

things is helping me put the larger issues out of my mind until I

know what I'm dealing with. Post-surgery.

As for my grandfather, I think we're going to have a sitter come

next weekend for my grandfather. I'll just have to make it clear

she's not there to wait on me, and I'd rather be left alone. Maybe

she can actually take my grandfather out for a while.

Thanks all.

I hope all are well.

Sandy

> >

> > Had my pre-op at the hospital yesterday, and they told me

nothing to

> > tie my hair back would be allowed.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dry clean shampoo - can try asking the shiseido counter, or any japanese pharmacy. I bought it but never used it. My doctor recomends I go to hair salon to get it washed. But I washed it myself after 4 days from surgery, with great care. I first covered the operated ear with plastic sheet, used water-proof surgical tapes to secure it, then a plastic cup, and washed hair with head tilted to one side. Must be extremely careful not to let any water get into the ear to avoid possible infection. haveacatch <mollyandra@...> wrote: My hair is plenty long enough for some sort of braiding. It's long and thick. I'm just not very good at it, and neither is anyone I know that's close enough to get to before the surgery. I might try something, though.

Braid it tight, over the crown, and sleep on it the night before. Just take out the bands before surgery. Even if doc didn't like it, I could take it down, and just comb it over. And maybe having been braided would help it lay flat and out of the way.Thanks for the suggestion.As for "dry clean shampoo", I've heard of it, but never seen it. Where would you find it?Thanks for all your help. Spending time thinking about the little things is helping me put the larger issues out of my mind until I know what I'm dealing with. Post-surgery.As for my grandfather, I think we're going to have a sitter come next weekend for my grandfather. I'll just have to make it clear she's not there to wait on me, and I'd rather be left alone. Maybe she can actually take my grandfather out for a while.Thanks all.I hope all are well.Sandy> >> > Had my pre-op at the hospital yesterday, and they told me nothing to> > tie my hair back would be allowed. > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Just be careful that whatever you do with your hair,

you will not be lying on it. I always chose 2 french

braids on the side so that my head would lie flat on

the pillow when I was on my back. I switched up for

one of my surgeries(my mom alwasy french braided it

but she had passed away)-ended up lying on a rubber

band for a 5 hour surgery..Ooooowwwww. I had a huge

knot on my head that hurt for about a week (there is

no need to add to pain!).

--- haveacatch <mollyandra@...> wrote:

> My hair is plenty long enough for some sort of

> braiding. It's long

> and thick. I'm just not very good at it, and

> neither is anyone I

> know that's close enough to get to before the

> surgery. I might try

> something, though. Braid it tight, over the crown,

> and sleep on it

> the night before. Just take out the bands before

> surgery. Even if

> doc didn't like it, I could take it down, and just

> comb it over.

> And maybe having been braided would help it lay flat

> and out of the

> way.

>

> Thanks for the suggestion.

>

> As for " dry clean shampoo " , I've heard of it, but

> never seen it.

> Where would you find it?

>

> Thanks for all your help. Spending time thinking

> about the little

> things is helping me put the larger issues out of my

> mind until I

> know what I'm dealing with. Post-surgery.

>

> As for my grandfather, I think we're going to have a

> sitter come

> next weekend for my grandfather. I'll just have to

> make it clear

> she's not there to wait on me, and I'd rather be

> left alone. Maybe

> she can actually take my grandfather out for a

> while.

>

> Thanks all.

>

> I hope all are well.

>

> Sandy

>

> > >

> > > Had my pre-op at the hospital yesterday, and

> they told me

> nothing to

> > > tie my hair back would be allowed.

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Wannette

Big thanks for this excellent article. I've booked to see my GP next

Friday as I've about had it with the lack of any effective treatment

from the NHS and am going to tell him they have one last chance or I'm

making an official complaint. This article in a way just about sums up

everything lacking in the way the NHS regards hypo especially the part

about blood tests.

My hair is the one thing no one can deny when it comes to 'visible

signs'. It is literally disappearing before my eyes. If he starts with

the 'its normal for post menopausal ya de ya .....I shall show him

this article.

Most people have no compunction making a complaint about shoddy goods

or services so why should the NHS be exempt and we be made to feel we

are hypochondriacs if we do so? If the medical professions are what

they say they are 'ie 'professionsals' - they should have nothing to

fear by allowing their patients access to their own records.

Thanks again

>

> Hi everyone,

> I don't know if we have already files about this, but I found this

> article about the thyroid and hair and I think it provides a succinct

> argument.

> They had lots of other good articles about hair too- probably all you

> will ever need to know!

>

> http://www.hairscientists.org/vitamins-minerals-and-thryoid.html

>

> best,

> Wannette

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

Good luck with your doctor and yes, that article is very informative and every doctor should read it. I have put the links into our LINKS and copied the article into our FILES so it is there for all members. Let us know what your GP says. You could try writing down all your symptoms, your signs, your basal temperature (taken before you get out of bed for 4/5 days), listing any members of your family who have a thyroid problem or autoimmune disease. You should ask him for a full thyroid function test, including a test to see if you have antibodies to your thyroid. You should also ask for your ferritin (stored iron) level to be tested, B12, Vitamin D, and your sex hormones, to see whether you have oestrogen overload. In fact, if you read through the article, you can highlight all the points you want to put over to him. If you have not been referred to an endocrinologist (one who specialises in thyroid, rather than diabetes) -then ask for a referral as quickly as possible . Ask also that both your letter and the article be put into your medical notes.

Ask also, at the same time, for copies of all your blood tests. He cannot refuse you. Then post them here so we can have a look to see if your doctor is interpreting them correctly. Good luck.

Luv - Sheila

Most people have no compunction making a complaint about shoddy goodsor services so why should the NHS be exempt and we be made to feel weare hypochondriacs if we do so? If the medical professions are whatthey say they are 'ie 'professionsals' - they should have nothing tofear by allowing their patients access to their own records.Thanks again>> Hi everyone,> I don't know if we have already files about this, but I found this > article about the thyroid and hair and I think it provides a succinct > argument.> They had lots of other good articles about hair too- probably all you > will ever need to know!> > http://www.hairscientists.org/vitamins-minerals-and-thryoid.html> > best, > Wannette>

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Hi Wannette

I have written to the doctor and asked for a copy of the references. He did not supply these with the article but you can request them if you need them. Once I get them, I will put them with the article in our files. These days, everybody need references for everything we right, well - that is everybody except the BTA (

Luv - Sheila

Hi Sheila and ,Glad you enjoyed the article. If you ever have some spare time, have a look at some of the other stuff on the trichologists homepage- it really was sooo interesting!

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Hi,

thanks so much for the suport, and response..I'm taking 50mcg LT only at mo just

started last week, as first appointment with endo was last week...Been jogging

in fits and starts but feeling energy a bit low, kids been off on easter hols so

have to admit diet not been great this past fortnight, but to try and eat

healithy when and where I can. and try to eat carbs for training therein lies

the dichotomy re candida..!!

I've not been taking vit c as had to watch on the tummy front and same re iron

but had been taking spatone on and off but did discover iron content not as high

as ferrous sulphate. Take multibionta, vitd3 1000mg, 200mg grapeseed extract,

chromium which had niacin, 100mg starflowwer oil, and 100mg coq10. maybe should

take liq for iron levles..How does selenium work..?

thanks very much for all your kind support and thoughts

Jill

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> Hi Jill,

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> I'm sorry that you're feelin' so rubbish about your hair and looks. My hair

was my crowning glory too> O.k, I haven't kept up with any of your other posts,

but once you are on the correct dose of thyroid treatment and are taking the

right supps (vit c, selenium, liquorice etc) and have treated all your

associated conditions... you will see a response in your skin and hair. Have you

checked your iron too. ? Mine was very low initially, I treated it and hair loss

stopped ( I was also taking Lysine). I stopped with the iron supps and my levels

dropped dramatically again (didn't find out 'til this month) and the old hair

started shedding again, grrrrrr

> Basically you really need to keep on the ball with your diet and supplements

and constantly keep an eye on your adrenals.

> I really sympathise with how you feel and how difficult it is to get partners

to understand.... best look for support here. . Mourning what you've lost, in

that respect can be very draining and depressing. Where are you at with your

treatment etc... and what are your temps doing ???

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> Hang in there girrl, we're all in it together,

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> julia

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Dear thank you so much for your reply.It helps so much when you have support.I am not sure what

lysine is and where to buy it,but yes I will certainly give it a go.Do I but it from Holland and Barrett.

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Margaret

From: <juliamoonrock@...>thyroid treatment Sent: Friday, 5 June, 2009 11:30:54Subject: hair

Hi Margaret,

bit of a late reply to your post but thought I'd share my hair experience.My hair was my best asset, long and really thick. My hair was falling out steadily before I started hypo t treatment 2+ years ago. It continued to fall out on thyroxine and for about two months after I started Armour.I added lysine to my sups and it stopped, just like that.

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Hi Margaret  

I actually llike Solgar products, got onto them at Sheilas recommendation.

They do the Lysine.

Any health food store which stocks Solgar can order them for you.

Try the link below;

http://www.solgar.co.uk/modules/shop/view.asp?catid=1 & Prodcode=E1680

Luv - Lynne

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Thanks

When I posted about the hair loss and l lycene connection the other day it was

just pure research and I wondered if it worked and you say you took it?

Thats cool to know it does work:)

Mine is very thin I might add some to my regime.

luv Dawnx

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Well I colored my hair. Wanna look a bit better to visit family in Texas. Losing

a bit more hair, but I have/had a LOT of hair. Thinned a lot. Looks bad at

scalp. No matter how I part it , the part is 1 1/2 wide!

Anyway, the color acted wierd( cause of Tx) I now have 3-4 shades of brown and

3-4 shades of red. But NO gray ! Mission accomplised !!

http://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877 "

" A well- behaved woman never made history " ...Mae West

http://oktravels.wordpress.com

http://allrecipes.com/cook/TrudyK/profile.aspx

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That was also why I colored. I had hoped it wouldn't look as thin at the scalp. No such luck . But at least only had to clean my hairbrush out once today!http://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877 " "A well- behaved woman never made history"...Mae Westhttp://oktravels.wordpress.com http://allrecipes.com/cook/TrudyK/profile.aspx On Dec 23, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Gloria <gadamscan@...> wrote:

TrudyAs a rule, I colour my hair mostly because it blows up the hair shaft and makes it look like I have more hair. However, even prior to treatment, my hair was doing really weird things. I was a strawberry redhead right up till around 20. Then, it just seemed to go blond anyway. By my 30's I was able to mix a couple of colours together and get it looking a bit somewhat like it was when I was younger. But, for a few years before tx, it actually became useless to even try and colour. By hair would just not hold the colour in the shaft. Here I was trying to be a redhead, while everyone else wants to not have red in their hair; except, mine just wouldn't hold anyway.Also, mine

will never go grey or white, it will just fade to nothing!! I mean honestly, it'll end up being almost translucent and no one will no what colour it ever was. I know this because of the side of the family that I got my hair colour from. It's funny, I have an uncle here whose nickname was Red. Now, you'd never know why!!Gloria

Well I colored my hair. Wanna look a bit better to visit family in Texas. Losing a bit more hair, but I have/had a LOT of hair. Thinned a lot. Looks bad at scalp. No matter how I part it , the part is 1 1/2 wide!

Anyway, the color acted wierd( cause of Tx) I now have 3-4 shades of brown and 3-4 shades of red. But NO gray ! Mission accomplised !!

http://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877 "

"A well- behaved woman never made history"...Mae West

http://oktravels.wordpress.com

http://allrecipes.com/cook/TrudyK/profile.aspx

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Gloria.. I have always said that my hair is not gray.  It's clear!  Before treatment my hair was a mousy light brown sorta blond with a bit of clear in it...  then during treatment it all fell out and came in a different texture and mostly clear.  I colored it constantly...  now some of that clear is actually holding it's own color.. no idea how that happened but when my hair grows out, there are big patches that are not clear anymore!  I have gone with no added color to it and it looks like I've spent a lot of money on an expensive salon frosting.  BUT the hair has no luster to it and it just makes me crazy.  I also have trouble getting it to do anything I want it to..  Add color, problem fixed.  

I didn't color my hair at all during treatment.  I was afraid to since I had the falling out issue.  Hugs,TeriOn Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Gloria <gadamscan@...> wrote:

 

TrudyAs a rule, I colour my hair mostly because it blows up the hair shaft and makes it look like I have more hair.  However, even prior to treatment, my hair was doing really weird things.  I was a strawberry redhead right up till around 20.  Then, it just seemed to go blond anyway.  By my 30's I was able to mix a couple of colours together and get it looking a bit somewhat like it was when I was younger.  But, for a few years before tx, it actually became useless to even try and colour.  By hair would just not hold the colour in the shaft.  Here I was trying to be a redhead, while everyone else wants to not have red in their hair; except, mine just wouldn't hold anyway.

Also, mine

will never go grey or white, it will just fade to nothing!!  I mean honestly, it'll end up being almost translucent and no one will no what colour it ever was.  I know this because of the side of the family that I got my hair colour from.  It's funny, I have an uncle here whose nickname was Red.  Now, you'd never know why!!

Gloria

 

Well I colored my hair. Wanna look a bit better to visit family in Texas. Losing a bit more hair, but I have/had a LOT of hair. Thinned a lot. Looks bad at scalp. No matter how I part it , the part is 1 1/2 wide!

Anyway, the color acted wierd( cause of Tx) I now have 3-4 shades of brown and 3-4 shades of red. But NO gray ! Mission accomplised !!

http://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877 "

" A well- behaved woman never made history " ...Mae West

http://oktravels.wordpress.com

http://allrecipes.com/cook/TrudyK/profile.aspx

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Teri Gottlieb

MOVE ON.  It's just a chapter in the past, but don't close the book.  Just turn the page.

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Trudy, chiming in on the hair issue, I agree take it off all at once instead od dwelling over it, it may grow back thicker, curly or even a diff color. The JC Penny stores here in MD. will let u make a private appt for a total cut, I think that is so cool of them. I had time to go home and absorb it b4 anyone else saw me. Betty

: Theresa Gottlieb <theresagottlieb@...> < >Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 4:09:17 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Day three

Trudy... I do that too! The talking jibberish in my sleep... hubs keeps listening thinking I'm gonna say something that he needs to know!

Your hair... take it all off so it can grow out healthy again. It's all that nasty Ribavirin that is still in your system. WATER WATER WATER.

Hugs,Teri

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 12:54 PM, trudykinsey@... <trudykinsey@...> wrote:

Still early( for me LoL) in the day. I think maybe my hands aren't as shakey. But we will see after I've done some yard work. One thing is I suddenly have lots of energy. I think it's probably from 6 weeks off tx & half a dose of Elavil combo. Have done lots of spring yard work. Love my tractor & dump cart! I keep waiting for the " sky to fall ". Ya know, pay the price thing. Temperment good; I like being able to actually accomplish somethin! Now next week I go to one Elavil every other day.But new prob; I'm talking loud gibberish all night .Woke myself up last night wondering who the woman was in my house? B. H. Hubby exasperated. Keeps waking me up. Hell, one of us (me)needs a night's sleep. Just a passing thought: wonder if I stutter in my sleep? B. H. Hubby says not even entertaining ; just gibberish at 4:00 a.m . Oh well, I feel rested...FYI: I'm still loosing my hair big time. And what I still have is broken off at about 2-3

inches. It is actually dead looking. Today I'm gonna figure out a look with ball cap or do-rag. Possible both to tame the wispy strands that like to pop out. I didn't really start loosing my hair till at end of tx. Just another " funnin' by my body !" A well-behaved woman never made history " Mae Westhttp://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877

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Teri GottliebMOVE ON. It's just a chapter in the past, but don't close the book. Just turn the page.

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That's awesome about JC Penny.  My hair came back just as thick but the texture is sorta different...... kinda....  I used to have super curly hair, now it's more straight with a little bit of waves mixed in...  the back and bottom of my hair though...  curlier than before...  but the top and sides... straight and a little wavy...  strange...  oh, and I wound up a LOT MORE grey after treatment.... 

Hugs,Teri

On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Betty Himes <stayhungryforlife@...> wrote:

 

Trudy, chiming in on the hair issue, I agree take it off all at once instead od dwelling over it, it may grow back thicker, curly or even a diff color. The JC Penny stores here in MD. will let u make a private appt for a total cut, I think that is so cool of them. I had time to go home and absorb it b4 anyone else saw me. Betty

 

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MOVE ON.  It's just a chapter in the past, but don't close the book.  Just turn the page.

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Gloria,She HAD long thick hair..  it is now cut short and has thinned out tremendously.  She got it cut today.I got a long e-mail from Trudy just a bit ago..  Think she as gone to bed now.  She's wiped out.  Poor thing.

Hugs,TeriOn Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Gloria <gadamscan@...> wrote:

 

TrudyHave we established yet whether you have long hair or short hair??  As I've said before, I was not granted with much hair to begin with.  It's very very fine and not so much of it.  So, during my first tx, I finally had to go and get a really short cut; because, I hated seeing that much of my fragile hair in my brush.  Then, getting ready for the second tx, off I went to get that really short haircut.  Needless to say, I swear it's because I was prepared, I didn't lose hair on that round.

Gloria

 

Trudy, chiming in on the hair issue, I agree take it off all at once instead od dwelling over it, it may grow back thicker, curly or even a diff color. The JC Penny stores here in MD. will let u make a private appt for a total cut, I think that is so cool of them. I had time to go home and absorb it b4 anyone else saw me. Betty

 

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Teri Gottlieb

MOVE ON.  It's just a chapter in the past, but don't close the book.  Just turn the page.

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I've always had long or at least past the shoulder legnth and so thick as to be problematic . Last year, having come to this site, getting educated, I cut it " short ". Meaning just below the collar. In December I had it restyled still just barely below the collar. The last coupla weeks of tx it was thining just a skosh. And in a real humorless effort a month out & it was falling out and coming out in clumps when I washed. I wish I only cleaned my hairbrush twice a day! I left a pretty messy trail where ever I went. Obviously I would never get lost in the forest, right, Gretel? Then last week, I swear I woke up one day and it was dead & "fried" almost to my scalp. Didn't leave me much choice. Sooo short I will wear a ball cap always, but at least it's not flying out from under my cap looking wild. It is what it is. Would have done it sooner, but Becky kept wanting to

try just one more thing first. " A well-behaved woman never made history " Mae Westhttp://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877 On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Gloria

<gadamscan@...> wrote:

TrudyHave we established yet whether you have long hair or short hair?? As I've said before, I was not granted with much hair to begin with. It's very very fine and not so much of it. So, during my first tx, I finally had to go and get a really short cut; because, I hated seeing that much of my fragile hair in my brush. Then, getting ready for the second tx, off I went to get that really short haircut. Needless to say, I swear it's because I was prepared, I didn't lose hair on that round. Gloria

Trudy, chiming in on the hair issue, I agree take it off all at once instead od dwelling over it, it may grow back thicker, curly or even a diff color. The JC Penny stores here in MD. will let u make a private appt for a total cut, I think that is so cool of them. I had time to go home and absorb it b4 anyone else saw me. Betty