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Hi Jane,

From memory as I have been taking armour at night for years now, it

was a few days, I know that I had lovely dreams first and others

mentioned this also, so dont be suprised if this happens. I would

allow 2 weeks and review if it is better for you or not.

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I take the meds as I am on my way to bed about 10.30/11ish.

jennyfreeman

> evening everyone; jenny with regards to taking armour at night, how

> long before a benefit was felt ? regards jane

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I take it en route to bed at about 10.30/11pm ish. I look forward to

reading about everyones experiences. If the reports are the same as

those on the about.com forum it will be positive.

I think that by taking it at bedtime the stomach is empty and during

the night also doesn't have any interference in getting into the system.

If I am recalling correctly, Dr Blanchard starting recommending it as

an alternative dosing time about a year after had reported on

her home experiment.

freeman

> Oh Wow - then I will give it a go. I often forget my afternoon

dose until around 6.00p.m. so tomorrow, I will go without and take it

at night. Do you take it when you go to bed or in the evening.

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The first 4-week phase of bicarb treatment for me ends in a couple of

days. I've noticed no difference other than a possible slightly

improved skin condition (troubled by small chalky patches, like a

localised psoriasis -- I suspect these relate to candida). Reports

will follow on my daughters' experiences.

Rgds

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> I started bicarb about 10 days ago, the first week, yes, I was

running to the loo - almost getting 'taken short' but this week, I

seem to have got used to it because I am now having normal bowel

action. However, I will stop it for a couple of weeks after four

weeks. I don't have Candida Albicans either, at least, I am almost

sure I don't, but I want to keep my inside clear of the possibility.

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> Luv - Sheila

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I can't say for others but mine is tired all the time! Especially the week

of her treatment. My daughter is now 20 but she could not even do a full

day of school, We found when her levels were low she would be really tired.

We just except it and take lots of breaks and she sleeps lots, wait until

she started her cycle, mine is down in bed that week she is so run down.

Lorri (rachelCVID 20yrs old)

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lulabells_mom

Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 7:41 PM

Subject: Tired

I havent posted in a long time but i do read all the post and I have learned

so much from everyone.. so here is my question, my girl 7 has hypogamma, and

other issues, she has been getting very tired over the last few months, dr.

is doing blood works so far all is good, he wants me to send her to cardio

dr. to just rule out somethings, do your kids tire easy and how do you deal

with it,, I honestly think it is her diease,, and how do you take your kids

out like the zoo.. do you have a stroller or how do you get around??? Thanks

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Tristen is 5, but she tires easily and pretty fast. I still have a stroller for

her for when we go to the mall or for outings like the zoo. The day of her

infusion she seems to be extra tired and usually takes a nap. I'm worried how

she will handle all day kindergarten next year. I am doing a 504 for her that

will say she can rest in the nurses office if needed or come home if she's too

tired. It's hard to see her not be able to keep up with her older sister when

running around outside or riding her bike, but I think for Tristen, it's just

part of who she is and she's ok with it. She knows when she has to slow down or

take a rest and it doesn't seem to bother her at all.

le

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From: lulabells_mom <dscism06242002@...>

Sent: Sun, May 2, 2010 7:41:29 PM

Subject: Tired

I havent posted in a long time but i do read all the post and I have learned so

much from everyone.. so here is my question, my girl 7 has hypogamma, and other

issues, she has been getting very tired over the last few months, dr. is doing

blood works so far all is good, he wants me to send her to cardio dr. to just

rule out somethings, do your kids tire easy and how do you deal with it,, I

honestly think it is her diease,, and how do you take your kids out like the

zoo.. do you have a stroller or how do you get around??? Thanks ..

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Thanks for the replys,, Allie has a 504 too.. but she is homebound right now,

she to gets very tired the week of infusion and sleeps and rest for the next

couple of days.. ok I think this is all due to her hypogamma, so thanks again

for the replys!!

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> Tristen is 5, but she tires easily and pretty fast. I still have a stroller

for her for when we go to the mall or for outings like the zoo. The day of her

infusion she seems to be extra tired and usually takes a nap. I'm worried how

she will handle all day kindergarten next year. I am doing a 504 for her that

will say she can rest in the nurses office if needed or come home if she's too

tired. It's hard to see her not be able to keep up with her older sister when

running around outside or riding her bike, but I think for Tristen, it's just

part of who she is and she's ok with it. She knows when she has to slow down or

take a rest and it doesn't seem to bother her at all.

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> le

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> Sent: Sun, May 2, 2010 7:41:29 PM

> Subject: Tired

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> I havent posted in a long time but i do read all the post and I have learned

so much from everyone.. so here is my question, my girl 7 has hypogamma, and

other issues, she has been getting very tired over the last few months, dr. is

doing blood works so far all is good, he wants me to send her to cardio dr. to

just rule out somethings, do your kids tire easy and how do you deal with it,, I

honestly think it is her diease,, and how do you take your kids out like the

zoo.. do you have a stroller or how do you get around??? Thanks ..

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Macey is on subq but still tires easily. She had a stroller for years past the

recommended weight but now has a transport chair. She also has had a reduced

schedule at school but hih school has been alittle harder to do that with.

Ursula

Mom to Macey -15 (CVID)

On May 2, 2010, at 10:41 PM, " lulabells_mom " <dscism06242002@...> wrote:

I havent posted in a long time but i do read all the post and I have learned so

much from everyone.. so here is my question, my girl 7 has hypogamma, and other

issues, she has been getting very tired over the last few months, dr. is doing

blood works so far all is good, he wants me to send her to cardio dr. to just

rule out somethings, do your kids tire easy and how do you deal with it,, I

honestly think it is her diease,, and how do you take your kids out like the

zoo.. do you have a stroller or how do you get around??? Thanks ..

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Just a thought but with my son who is now 14 he tired much more in the

beginning of treatment and when he was on IV. Now that he is on Sub Q and it

has been 10 years his energy level seems to be about average for his age. Maybe

he has just learned to push a bit more I do not know.

BARBIE

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From: le Mina <daniellemina@...>

Sent: Sun, May 2, 2010 8:12:44 PM

Subject: Re: Tired

Tristen is 5, but she tires easily and pretty fast. I still have a stroller for

her for when we go to the mall or for outings like the zoo. The day of her

infusion she seems to be extra tired and usually takes a nap. I'm worried how

she will handle all day kindergarten next year. I am doing a 504 for her that

will say she can rest in the nurses office if needed or come home if she's too

tired. It's hard to see her not be able to keep up with her older sister when

running around outside or riding her bike, but I think for Tristen, it's just

part of who she is and she's ok with it. She knows when she has to slow down or

take a rest and it doesn't seem to bother her at all.

le

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From: lulabells_mom <dscism06242002>

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Sent: Sun, May 2, 2010 7:41:29 PM

Subject: Tired

I havent posted in a long time but i do read all the post and I have learned so

much from everyone.. so here is my question, my girl 7 has hypogamma, and other

issues, she has been getting very tired over the last few months, dr. is doing

blood works so far all is good, he wants me to send her to cardio dr. to just

rule out somethings, do your kids tire easy and how do you deal with it,, I

honestly think it is her diease,, and how do you take your kids out like the

zoo.. do you have a stroller or how do you get around??? Thanks ..

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Ursula, do you know if they make some kind of stroller for big kiddos, Allie is

70 pounds, I just really need something to help us out when we go places where

there is a lot of walking, do ins help pay for anything?? thanks Dovie

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> I havent posted in a long time but i do read all the post and I have learned

so much from everyone.. so here is my question, my girl 7 has hypogamma, and

other issues, she has been getting very tired over the last few months, dr. is

doing blood works so far all is good, he wants me to send her to cardio dr. to

just rule out somethings, do your kids tire easy and how do you deal with it,, I

honestly think it is her diease,, and how do you take your kids out like the

zoo.. do you have a stroller or how do you get around??? Thanks ..

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Good info to know, Allie has been doing this for 2 yrs now, so mabe it will get

better, Thanks Dovie

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> Just a thought but with my son who is now 14 he tired much more in the

beginning of treatment and when he was on IV. Now that he is on Sub Q and it

has been 10 years his energy level seems to be about average for his age. Maybe

he has just learned to push a bit more I do not know.

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> BARBIE

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> Sent: Sun, May 2, 2010 8:12:44 PM

> Subject: Re: Tired

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> Tristen is 5, but she tires easily and pretty fast. I still have a stroller

for her for when we go to the mall or for outings like the zoo. The day of her

infusion she seems to be extra tired and usually takes a nap. I'm worried how

she will handle all day kindergarten next year. I am doing a 504 for her that

will say she can rest in the nurses office if needed or come home if she's too

tired. It's hard to see her not be able to keep up with her older sister when

running around outside or riding her bike, but I think for Tristen, it's just

part of who she is and she's ok with it. She knows when she has to slow down or

take a rest and it doesn't seem to bother her at all.

>

> le

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> From: lulabells_mom <dscism06242002>

> groups (DOT) com

> Sent: Sun, May 2, 2010 7:41:29 PM

> Subject: Tired

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> I havent posted in a long time but i do read all the post and I have learned

so much from everyone.. so here is my question, my girl 7 has hypogamma, and

other issues, she has been getting very tired over the last few months, dr. is

doing blood works so far all is good, he wants me to send her to cardio dr. to

just rule out somethings, do your kids tire easy and how do you deal with it,, I

honestly think it is her diease,, and how do you take your kids out like the

zoo.. do you have a stroller or how do you get around??? Thanks ..

>

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You know I do know that now that my son is out of school and is home schooled

that he sleeps LOTS but I figured that was a part of being a teen and that he

likes to stay up late. It may be that his new schedule has REALLY helped him

function better overall. I know for him he had LOADS more anxiety and depression

when he was running trying to get up for school and do extra activities. It all

makes more sense as I think about it. He does not complain for being tired but

does refuse to do a great deal of extra activities.

BARBIE

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From: Lorri Kraft <llkraft@...>

Sent: Sun, May 2, 2010 7:46:56 PM

Subject: RE: Tired

I can't say for others but mine is tired all the time! Especially the week

of her treatment. My daughter is now 20 but she could not even do a full

day of school, We found when her levels were low she would be really tired.

We just except it and take lots of breaks and she sleeps lots, wait until

she started her cycle, mine is down in bed that week she is so run down.

Lorri (rachelCVID 20yrs old)

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lulabells_mom

Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 7:41 PM

groups (DOT) com

Subject: Tired

I havent posted in a long time but i do read all the post and I have learned

so much from everyone.. so here is my question, my girl 7 has hypogamma, and

other issues, she has been getting very tired over the last few months, dr.

is doing blood works so far all is good, he wants me to send her to cardio

dr. to just rule out somethings, do your kids tire easy and how do you deal

with it,, I honestly think it is her diease,, and how do you take your kids

out like the zoo.. do you have a stroller or how do you get around??? Thanks

...

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Thx Gloria. I kinda figure it will take 4-6 weeks till there is a

noticable improvement.

Oncologist was concerned about WBC & RBC being so low. Ya think??

Because my WBC so low now at the last minuite, so many sides are

rearing up. Every kinda virus, fungus, etc.

Tomorrow I have two Drs appt, but four hrs apart added to the 5 hr

round trip. Give me stregnth...

Im just sooo tired( weak). Yesterday I spent 21 hrs in bed. And

wish I could crawl back in now.....sigh... It's almost over...

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Viv,

I am sorry to hear about the emotional rollercoaster you have been on.  I think

going out for walk in the sunshine will help.  I know this is easier said than

done but please try to remain positive. 

Hugs,

________________________________

From: Vivienne <ruffed.lemur@...>

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Sent: Mon, March 21, 2011 9:25:06 AM

Subject: Tired

 

Hi

I often don't post when I am down (hence why I haven't posted for all of last

week). I am surviving, but it is bloomin hard work. I'm keeping food in balance,

so that isn't the problem. It would be nice to be losing, but that is probably

expecting too much at the moment.

Bereavement is just the weirdest emotional thing I have ever been through. " Mood

swings " just don't describe it and the downs are the most down I have ever been.

It takes so much self correcting and being kind to myself, that by the time I

get back into balance, I'm exhausted with all the effort. I'm tempted to eat

just to get the energy back, but I know that is not the solution.

I wish it could be enough to just be happy that I am alive and I have a life to

live and should make the most of every day, as my mum would have, had she been

here, but the effort is severe. I have days of happiness and I think, that's it

you are getting there, but then a few days later I'm back into the pit again.

I know I just have to get through this and you can't help, but my poor husband

has shouldered enough roller coaster mood swings for a lifetime!

Going out for a walk in the Spring sunshine now, for a break from my computer,

if not from myself.

Viv

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Viv,

I am sorry to hear about the emotional rollercoaster you have been on.  I think

going out for walk in the sunshine will help.  I know this is easier said than

done but please try to remain positive. 

Hugs,

________________________________

From: Vivienne <ruffed.lemur@...>

weightloss

Sent: Mon, March 21, 2011 9:25:06 AM

Subject: Tired

 

Hi

I often don't post when I am down (hence why I haven't posted for all of last

week). I am surviving, but it is bloomin hard work. I'm keeping food in balance,

so that isn't the problem. It would be nice to be losing, but that is probably

expecting too much at the moment.

Bereavement is just the weirdest emotional thing I have ever been through. " Mood

swings " just don't describe it and the downs are the most down I have ever been.

It takes so much self correcting and being kind to myself, that by the time I

get back into balance, I'm exhausted with all the effort. I'm tempted to eat

just to get the energy back, but I know that is not the solution.

I wish it could be enough to just be happy that I am alive and I have a life to

live and should make the most of every day, as my mum would have, had she been

here, but the effort is severe. I have days of happiness and I think, that's it

you are getting there, but then a few days later I'm back into the pit again.

I know I just have to get through this and you can't help, but my poor husband

has shouldered enough roller coaster mood swings for a lifetime!

Going out for a walk in the Spring sunshine now, for a break from my computer,

if not from myself.

Viv

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Hi Viv,

I'm sorry that you're feeling down. I know the mood swings very well. Some

days are okay and I go about my day. But then there are other times when I feel

so down and miserable, or very upset and angry.

I think the ups and downs are a normal part of the process, and how long it

takes for a person to heal from the loss of a loved one is different for

everyone. One of my co-workers said something to me that I use to remind myself

when I feel that I " should " be back to normal. She said, " If it takes you six

months to heal, it takes six months. If it takes six years, then it takes six

years. Don't let anybody tell you when you should be done grieving. "

You are doing the right thing by being kind to yourself. I hope that you gain

some peace and balance from your walk outside.

With love,

Yuna

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> Hi

> I often don't post when I am down (hence why I haven't posted for all of last

week). I am surviving, but it is bloomin hard work. I'm keeping food in

balance, so that isn't the problem. It would be nice to be losing, but that is

probably expecting too much at the moment.

>

> Bereavement is just the weirdest emotional thing I have ever been through.

" Mood swings " just don't describe it and the downs are the most down I have ever

been. It takes so much self correcting and being kind to myself, that by the

time I get back into balance, I'm exhausted with all the effort. I'm tempted to

eat just to get the energy back, but I know that is not the solution.

>

> I wish it could be enough to just be happy that I am alive and I have a life

to live and should make the most of every day, as my mum would have, had she

been here, but the effort is severe. I have days of happiness and I think,

that's it you are getting there, but then a few days later I'm back into the pit

again.

>

> I know I just have to get through this and you can't help, but my poor husband

has shouldered enough roller coaster mood swings for a lifetime!

>

> Going out for a walk in the Spring sunshine now, for a break from my computer,

if not from myself.

>

> Viv

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