Tired

August 14, 2004

If you want to cut up, instead of restricting your calories, stop drinking

carbonated sodas (read some of 's stuff if you haven't already:

http://www.skwigg.com/id24.html) and do more cardio. Restricting calories is

usually not a good way to go. Are you following BFL?

" Nothing is more powerful for your future than being a gatherer of good

ideas and information. That's called doing your homework. " -- Jim Rohn

Re: RE: Tired

>

> > From: " Lydia " <groups@s...>

> >That could be it, but it could also be the amount of rest you're

getting,

> >and even whether or not you're getting enough iron. Especially

if " Aunt

> Flo "

> >is on her way or already there.

>

> That's interesting you say that. Since my menses about 2-3 weeks

ago I've

> been feeling a bit rundown and such. I had no idea that would be

such a big

> factor.

>

August 14, 2004

I think you're cutting calories back too far. Remember, too, on BFL you can

eat ALL the green veggies you want... so if you're getting hungry sooner

than you should be, eat more green veggies.

" Nothing is more powerful for your future than being a gatherer of good

ideas and information. That's called doing your homework. " -- Jim Rohn

Re: RE: Tired

> >

> > > From: " Lydia " <groups@s...>

> > >That could be it, but it could also be the amount of rest

you're

> getting,

> > >and even whether or not you're getting enough iron. Especially

> if " Aunt

> > Flo "

> > >is on her way or already there.

> >

> > That's interesting you say that. Since my menses about 2-3 weeks

> ago I've

> > been feeling a bit rundown and such. I had no idea that would be

> such a big

> > factor.

> >

August 14, 2004

You could try posting a couple of your typical menus to see if anything stands

out. You may be right if your gut feeling is that you're not eating enough.

Generally, a BFL meal should hold you for 2-3 hours if the portion was right for

you. If you're starving an hour later, it was too small. If you're still stuffed

4 hours later it was too big.

Try using some more filling and calorie-dense meal choices. A steak and potato,

or a sandwich on whole wheat bread will stay with you a lot longer than a

protein shake, for example.

You don't have to give up your goal of cutting up. There's a healthy balance

where you're gradually losing but still eating enough to feel good. You can also

deliberately vary your calorie intake (zig-zag). On days where you're really

hitting it hard (weight days for me), have slightly bigger portions or an extra

meal. On days when you're not quite as active, keep it lean and allow a decent

calorie deficit.

Hope that gives you some ideas.

Re: Tired

Also I forgot to add...I do also sometimes feel the hunger coming on

even if its not even close to my next meal...I 'm lost!!!HELP!

August 15, 2004

That is so right Lydia. When I attempted BFL a couple of years

ago I was eating chicken, chicken and more chicken and I

ended up anemic. This time I'll make sure I take a good multi-

vitamin.

I found I was getting splitting headaches when lifting heavy and

I would be tired all the time.

If you are not taking a multi, make sure you are also getting

enough vitamin C. That helps the body absorb iron.

Bel

---- Original message ----

>Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 14:19:17 -0400

>From: " Lydia " <groups@...>

>Subject: RE: RE: Tired

>< >

>

> Oh yeah. Iron deficiency will make you very tired.

> Have you been to the doc

> for a checkup and gotten lab work done lately?

>

> " Nothing is more powerful for your future than being

> a gatherer of good

> ideas and information. That's called doing your

> homework. " -- Jim Rohn

>

> Re: RE: Tired

>

> > From: " Lydia " <groups@...>

> >That could be it, but it could also be the amount

> of rest you're getting,

> >and even whether or not you're getting enough iron.

> Especially if " Aunt

> Flo "

> >is on her way or already there.

>

> That's interesting you say that. Since my menses

> about 2-3 weeks ago I've

> been feeling a bit rundown and such. I had no idea

> that would be such a big

> factor.

>

August 15, 2004

That's true. It does no good to take an iron supplement if it's all going to

go in the toilet!

; )

" Nothing is more powerful for your future than being a gatherer of good

ideas and information. That's called doing your homework. " -- Jim Rohn

Re: RE: Tired

>

> > From: " Lydia " <groups@...>

> >That could be it, but it could also be the amount

> of rest you're getting,

> >and even whether or not you're getting enough iron.

> Especially if " Aunt

> Flo "

> >is on her way or already there.

>

> That's interesting you say that. Since my menses

> about 2-3 weeks ago I've

> been feeling a bit rundown and such. I had no idea

> that would be such a big

> factor.

>

August 15, 2004

What time is it over there Lydia?

It's 8.10am, Sunday morning here.

Bel

August 15, 2004

It's 7:37 pm at the moment. I just got back from being out though... so I

don't know how long ago you posted that, LOL

; )

" Nothing is more powerful for your future than being a gatherer of good

ideas and information. That's called doing your homework. " -- Jim Rohn

RE: RE: Tired

What time is it over there Lydia?

It's 8.10am, Sunday morning here.

Bel

August 15, 2004

I was feeling tired too. I started tracking what I eat recently and when i did

the

nutrient breakdown, I saw that I wasn't getting enough iron... So I decided to

add a

little more red meat in there. I wasn't having ANY except free day, so now I

have a

little roast beef mid-week.... (yum!) but all in the name of nutrition

> Oh yeah. Iron deficiency will make you very tired. Have you been to the doc

> for a checkup and gotten lab work done lately?

>

> " Nothing is more powerful for your future than being a gatherer of good

> ideas and information. That's called doing your homework. " -- Jim Rohn

>

> Re: RE: Tired

>

> > From: " Lydia " <groups@s...>

> >That could be it, but it could also be the amount of rest you're getting,

> >and even whether or not you're getting enough iron. Especially if " Aunt

> Flo "

> >is on her way or already there.

>

> That's interesting you say that. Since my menses about 2-3 weeks ago I've

> been feeling a bit rundown and such. I had no idea that would be such a big

> factor.

>

August 15, 2004

Maybe I missed this in the book, but did you say you can eat all the green

veggies you want? Do you not have to count the carbs from the green veggies

to your meals? I have been limiting myself of veggies with meals because

they add so many carbs. Please clarify this for me. Thanks!

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Re: RE: Tired

> >

> > > From: " Lydia " <groups@s...>

> > >That could be it, but it could also be the amount of rest

you're

> getting,

> > >and even whether or not you're getting enough iron. Especially

> if " Aunt

> > Flo "

> > >is on her way or already there.

> >

> > That's interesting you say that. Since my menses about 2-3 weeks

> ago I've

> > been feeling a bit rundown and such. I had no idea that would be

> such a big

> > factor.

> >

August 15, 2004

You can eat all the peas, broccoli, green beans, etc. that you like. You can

eat them with all six meals if you like... and you can eat ANY size portion

of them that you like. You don't count the calories, and they're not

considered as " carbs " on BFL. Due to their high fiber content, they will

keep your digestion moving along well, and you can never go wrong to get a

lot of them.

" Nothing is more powerful for your future than being a gatherer of good

ideas and information. That's called doing your homework. " -- Jim Rohn

Re: RE: Tired

> >

> > > From: " Lydia " <groups@s...>

> > >That could be it, but it could also be the amount of rest

you're

> getting,

> > >and even whether or not you're getting enough iron. Especially

> if " Aunt

> > Flo "

> > >is on her way or already there.

> >

> > That's interesting you say that. Since my menses about 2-3 weeks

> ago I've

> > been feeling a bit rundown and such. I had no idea that would be

> such a big

> > factor.

> >

August 15, 2004

Here is a typical day menu for me: I space my meals of 2-3 hours

NEVER more than 4 hours or the fatigue kicks into play.

1st- 1/2 cup of non instant oatmeal

1 scoop of Designer Whey Protein Powder

2nd- 1/2cup of cottage cheese w/ 6oz of low fat yogurt or fruit

0r

Myoplex Shake

3rd- 3oz-3.5oz of Turkey or Chicken on whole wheat tortilla w/

lettuce tomato

4th- Most days its the same as the 2nd meal

5th- 3oz-3.5oz or 6oz of a piece of fish

1 yam or piece of fruit

Sometimes I 'll have some salad and half a tomato

6th- Protein Pudding or Myoplex Shake

> You could try posting a couple of your typical menus to see if

anything stands out. You may be right if your gut feeling is that

you're not eating enough. Generally, a BFL meal should hold you for

2-3 hours if the portion was right for you. If you're starving an

hour later, it was too small. If you're still stuffed 4 hours later

it was too big.

>

> Try using some more filling and calorie-dense meal choices. A

steak and potato, or a sandwich on whole wheat bread will stay with

you a lot longer than a protein shake, for example.

>

> You don't have to give up your goal of cutting up. There's a

healthy balance where you're gradually losing but still eating

enough to feel good. You can also deliberately vary your calorie

intake (zig-zag). On days where you're really hitting it hard

(weight days for me), have slightly bigger portions or an extra

meal. On days when you're not quite as active, keep it lean and

allow a decent calorie deficit.

>

> Hope that gives you some ideas.

>

> Re: Tired

>

> Also I forgot to add...I do also sometimes feel the hunger

coming on

> even if its not even close to my next meal...I 'm lost!!!HELP!

>

August 15, 2004

Ok, that helps a little. You have a lot of meal replacements and not much real

food or fiber. Four of your six meals are basically liquid. That would

definitely leave me hungry!

There are all kinds of options, but I would boost the food volume and crunch

factor like so:

1) a six egg white omelet, tons of chopped veggies, and a big piece of

cantaloupe (or wheat toast if I was really hungry).

2) 1 cup cottage cheese, 1 pint berries (same meal, bigger portion, more fiber)

3) looks fine (turkey & veggies on ww tortilla)

4) big spinach salad with grilled chicken and an orange

5) looks fine (fish, yam, salad)

6) looks fine, unless I was starving then I'd have turkey slices and a pear or

something

Also, make sure you're getting some healthy fat in there somewhere. Too little

fat will leave you hungry and tired. You can put some slivered almonds in a

spinach salad, an avocado wedge in your turkey wrap, an olive oil vinaigrette on

your dinner salad. Just a little here and there really helps.

I know that packing around a bunch of real food can be a nuisance. Bars and

shakes are a lot easier on the go. Load up a cooler with things like: tuna

pouches, oranges, apples, string cheese, turkey slices, dried apricots, hard

boiled eggs, bagged lettuce, low fat salad dressing, grapes, almonds. It's kind

of a pain but you won't be hungry anymore. :-)

Re: Tired

Here is a typical day menu for me: I space my meals of 2-3 hours

NEVER more than 4 hours or the fatigue kicks into play.

1st- 1/2 cup of non instant oatmeal

1 scoop of Designer Whey Protein Powder

2nd- 1/2cup of cottage cheese w/ 6oz of low fat yogurt or fruit

0r

Myoplex Shake

3rd- 3oz-3.5oz of Turkey or Chicken on whole wheat tortilla w/

lettuce tomato

4th- Most days its the same as the 2nd meal

5th- 3oz-3.5oz or 6oz of a piece of fish

1 yam or piece of fruit

Sometimes I 'll have some salad and half a tomato

6th- Protein Pudding or Myoplex Shake

August 15, 2004

Thanks again for the pointers, is it around the 1500 calories per

day? I 'm definitely going to try it this week!!

Barbara

> Ok, that helps a little. You have a lot of meal replacements and

not much real food or fiber. Four of your six meals are basically

liquid. That would definitely leave me hungry!

>

> There are all kinds of options, but I would boost the food volume

and crunch factor like so:

>

> 1) a six egg white omelet, tons of chopped veggies, and a big

piece of cantaloupe (or wheat toast if I was really hungry).

> 2) 1 cup cottage cheese, 1 pint berries (same meal, bigger

portion, more fiber)

> 3) looks fine (turkey & veggies on ww tortilla)

> 4) big spinach salad with grilled chicken and an orange

> 5) looks fine (fish, yam, salad)

> 6) looks fine, unless I was starving then I'd have turkey slices

and a pear or something

>

> Also, make sure you're getting some healthy fat in there

somewhere. Too little fat will leave you hungry and tired. You can

put some slivered almonds in a spinach salad, an avocado wedge in

your turkey wrap, an olive oil vinaigrette on your dinner salad.

Just a little here and there really helps.

>

> I know that packing around a bunch of real food can be a nuisance.

Bars and shakes are a lot easier on the go. Load up a cooler with

things like: tuna pouches, oranges, apples, string cheese, turkey

slices, dried apricots, hard boiled eggs, bagged lettuce, low fat

salad dressing, grapes, almonds. It's kind of a pain but you won't

be hungry anymore. :-)

>

> Re: Tired

>

> Here is a typical day menu for me: I space my meals of 2-3 hours

> NEVER more than 4 hours or the fatigue kicks into play.

> 1st- 1/2 cup of non instant oatmeal

> 1 scoop of Designer Whey Protein Powder

>

> 2nd- 1/2cup of cottage cheese w/ 6oz of low fat yogurt or fruit

> 0r

> Myoplex Shake

>

> 3rd- 3oz-3.5oz of Turkey or Chicken on whole wheat tortilla w/

> lettuce tomato

>

> 4th- Most days its the same as the 2nd meal

>

> 5th- 3oz-3.5oz or 6oz of a piece of fish

> 1 yam or piece of fruit

> Sometimes I 'll have some salad and half a tomato

>

> 6th- Protein Pudding or Myoplex Shake

>

August 16, 2004

I didn't add it up. It's probably about the same calories as you were eating.

Maybe a few more but you said you were hungry. :-)

Re: Tired

Thanks again for the pointers, is it around the 1500 calories per

day? I 'm definitely going to try it this week!!

Barbara

August 16, 2004

Thanks. This will help me a lot. )

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Re: RE: Tired

> >

> > > From: " Lydia " <groups@s...>

> > >That could be it, but it could also be the amount of rest

you're

> getting,

> > >and even whether or not you're getting enough iron. Especially

> if " Aunt

> > Flo "

> > >is on her way or already there.

> >

> > That's interesting you say that. Since my menses about 2-3 weeks

> ago I've

> > been feeling a bit rundown and such. I had no idea that would be

> such a big

> > factor.

> >

January 23, 2005

Christa,

How much protein are you having? Has anything changed in the last 2

weeks?

Nina

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> the last 2 weeks I have just been very tired. I am not sure why

this

> is. Is it becaues I am not getting enough Protien? I have been

> sleeping pretty good. Going to the gym 4-5 times a week about 30-45

> mins. Any help would be great..

>

> Thanks

> Christa

March 13, 2006

Hope you start to feel more better soon Bonnie! Definately don't beat yourself up if you can't make it to the Y. Take care of you! Catch up when you can. I don't know how you do the morning class... you go girl!! I hit the good ol' snoozer button as many times as I can... in a perfect world, I would like to get up early to do exercising, reading, studying, etc... then enjoy my evening with the kids.....

March 13, 2006

Bonnie you are doing fine on computer time and replying. How is the new game plan going? Sounds like you have made some good decisions to help you.

NH... Mom to Abby Liz 10/94 Anne 7/99

March 14, 2006

*laugh* New game plan? Well, I have changed everything around...I'm

doing The Biggest Loser workouts in the mornings (after doing the high

intensity one, I know why football players and boxers are so darn

fit!), but I still haven't made it to the Y this week. I've just been

so tired lately. And I'm not sure if it's related, but all of a

sudden, I'm dropping things a lot. *shrugs* Otherwise, I'm fine! If

nothing else, I will do a quick workout tomorrow morning and go to the

group aerobics tomorrow night. But thanks for asking, !

How are things going for you? I haven't read anything I like more

than Make the Connection yet, but there are bits and pieces from

several books that are helping me stay focused.

Ugh...boys are fighting, must go.

-Bonnie

>

> Bonnie you are doing fine on computer time and replying. How is the

new

> game plan going? Sounds like you have made some good decisions to

help you.

>

> NH...

> Mom to Abby Liz 10/94

> Anne 7/99

>

March 14, 2006

Hang in there, Bonnie! Things will get better. I have been out of sorts for the past 2 weeks also... slowly building back up into the exercise routines. Doing ok with my eating choices... so-so with my water... I'll get there...

September 14, 2006

Yep. With both AD's I've been on. I found that adjusting the schedual helps.

You might want to try taking the Lex a little earlier in the evening instead

of waiting for bedtime.

Barbara

Tired

>I used to take my Lex. 40 mg in the AM until I discovered that it was

>making me sleepy. I'd sit and stare into space. So, I started taking the

>Lex @ bedtime. I sleep extremely well but have a really tough time waking

>up in the morning. I missed an appointment yesterday morning because I just

>couldn't wake up. So last night I omitted the Lex and woke up early this

>morning and got up without any problems. I just took the Lex this morning

>and now I shall see if it still turns me into a drone. Has anyone else

>had this experience ? what did you do about it ? The stuff seems to make

>me tired no matter when I take it.

>

> Sue C.

>

September 14, 2006

I took the Lex this morning and I've done 2 loads of laundry and cleaned up my

kitchen. I'll try it again tomorrow to see if the same thing happens.

sc