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a, Kate made some good points. Mandy uses the c-pap

machine, and so do I.

I cannot believe the difference it has made in both of our

lifes.

Having a stroke and also a heart attack is a reality. I

sadly know from personal experience.

Please have your sleep test(s) and see what the specialist

suggests. If I or Mandy would not have made the steps to

using the c-pap, there is no doubt neither one of us would

not be here today. Some of the advantages is: thinking

more clearly, no extra tired moments at mid-morning and

again in the afternoon. Not having to excuse yourself from

yarns that are not your fault, and finding yourself waking

up when you had no idea that you had fallen asleep.

Also, apnea causes several other health issues, such as

seizures. I have recently found out that my seizures are

more induced from the lack of sleep, 'because' of the lack

of oxygen! The medications were not helping me. My brain

was so starved for oxygen, that a seizure-like moment would

over-take me, and cause several problems. My life is so

much more in order now.

We do hope things will fall into place for you now, and you

can get the help you need.

Love Debi & Mandy Hoggan

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Let today be the beginning of

a new experience in your life,

and treasure it with a~smile~!

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Tired

> Hi a. Sorry that I'm replying to a post from so long

ago but I've been

> away. Pardon me if your problem has been addressed. I'm

assuming that you

> are an LP...so am I. I had a problem of being tired all

the the time and

> talked to my doctor about it. He suggested a sleep study

to determine if I

> had any problems. Low and behold I have SLeep Apnea BIG

TIME. That's when

> you litterally stop breathing for many seconds, several

time during the

> night. It deprives your brain of oxygen and essentially

wakes you up. You

> never get into a deep sleep. Apena is very common for

people of short

> stature, as well as people who are overweight. I am both.

One I can fix

> (and am...have lost 25 pounds), the other I can't.

>

> There are a number of solutions. One is surgical, but can

be tricky for us

> and usually doesn't work. One is to wear a mask at night

that essentially

> blows air into your nostrils so that this " thingie " in the

back of your

> throat doesn't close. This is really the most reliable

treatment, and the

> most difficult to get used to. I couldn't. I started do

research and found

> another alternative which is a mouthpiece that I wear at

night that moves my

> bottom jaw forward. I was so skeptical that it wouldn't

work...even though

> my husband reported an immediate difference, that I had

another study with

> the thing in. Well, it worked!! I am no longer sleepy.

I don't take naps

> and I feel lots better.

>

> Unfortunately this Apnea problem is quite serious and can

lead to serious

> heart problems or stroke, so you should get it checked

out.

>

> Good luck.

>

> Kate Wolters

> Michigan

>

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I will be going to the doctor's on Thrusday...while I'm there I will

talk to my doctor about my sleep problems. Hopefully something will

come of this.

Thank you.

a

> a, Kate made some good points. Mandy uses the c-pap

> machine, and so do I.

> I cannot believe the difference it has made in both of our

> lifes.

> Having a stroke and also a heart attack is a reality. I

> sadly know from personal experience.

> Please have your sleep test(s) and see what the specialist

> suggests. If I or Mandy would not have made the steps to

> using the c-pap, there is no doubt neither one of us would

> not be here today. Some of the advantages is: thinking

> more clearly, no extra tired moments at mid-morning and

> again in the afternoon. Not having to excuse yourself from

> yarns that are not your fault, and finding yourself waking

> up when you had no idea that you had fallen asleep.

> Also, apnea causes several other health issues, such as

> seizures. I have recently found out that my seizures are

> more induced from the lack of sleep, 'because' of the lack

> of oxygen! The medications were not helping me. My brain

> was so starved for oxygen, that a seizure-like moment would

> over-take me, and cause several problems. My life is so

> much more in order now.

> We do hope things will fall into place for you now, and you

> can get the help you need.

> Love Debi & Mandy Hoggan

> ***********************************

> Let today be the beginning of

> a new experience in your life,

> and treasure it with a~smile~!

> ***********************************

>

>

> Tired

>

>

> > Hi a. Sorry that I'm replying to a post from so long

> ago but I've been

> > away. Pardon me if your problem has been addressed. I'm

> assuming that you

> > are an LP...so am I. I had a problem of being tired all

> the the time and

> > talked to my doctor about it. He suggested a sleep study

> to determine if I

> > had any problems. Low and behold I have SLeep Apnea BIG

> TIME. That's when

> > you litterally stop breathing for many seconds, several

> time during the

> > night. It deprives your brain of oxygen and essentially

> wakes you up. You

> > never get into a deep sleep. Apena is very common for

> people of short

> > stature, as well as people who are overweight. I am both.

> One I can fix

> > (and am...have lost 25 pounds), the other I can't.

> >

> > There are a number of solutions. One is surgical, but can

> be tricky for us

> > and usually doesn't work. One is to wear a mask at night

> that essentially

> > blows air into your nostrils so that this " thingie " in the

> back of your

> > throat doesn't close. This is really the most reliable

> treatment, and the

> > most difficult to get used to. I couldn't. I started do

> research and found

> > another alternative which is a mouthpiece that I wear at

> night that moves my

> > bottom jaw forward. I was so skeptical that it wouldn't

> work...even though

> > my husband reported an immediate difference, that I had

> another study with

> > the thing in. Well, it worked!! I am no longer sleepy.

> I don't take naps

> > and I feel lots better.

> >

> > Unfortunately this Apnea problem is quite serious and can

> lead to serious

> > heart problems or stroke, so you should get it checked

> out.

> >

> > Good luck.

> >

> > Kate Wolters

> > Michigan

> >

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> >

> >

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> >

> >

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In a message dated 7/2/2000 3:33:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

kwolters@... writes:

<< I had a problem of being tired all the the time and

talked to my doctor about it. He suggested a sleep study to determine if I

had any problems. Low and behold I have SLeep Apnea BIG TIME. >>

I didnt know that Diastrophic's can have Sleep Apnea. A doctor asked if I

had it and I replied no. Because I was told that Sleep Apnea was a

characteristic of Achondroplasia. Can you tell me if have a cleft palate can

have a cause and efect on this? All I know is that I snore because of my

cleft palate.

wiggles

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Sleep apnea can occur with anyone, regardless of race,

creed, religion, etc.

It doesn't matter of the size of a person. Sleep apnea is

caused by several problems. The most common is have a

'blockage' in the nasal area, or further down in the palette

area.

Both my daughter and myself have serious sleep apnea.

Mandy's is caused by structure and central nervous system.

Mine is caused by structure and also my weight.

I do hope this info is helpful.

Here is a great and informative URL

http://health./health/Diseases_and_Conditions/Disea

se_Feed_Data/Obstructive_sleep_apnea/

And another

http://www.ask.com/main/metaanswer.asp?metaEngine=directhit &

origin=0 & MetaURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Esleepapnea%2Eorg%2F & qCat

egory=jeeves & metaTopic=American+Sleep+Apnea+Association+%2D+

ASAA & ItemOrdinal=0 & logQID=E55069A78952D411A3930090278D1981

This is the actual American Sleep Apnea Association

For info on just the sleep apnea itself, here is that site

http://www.ask.com/main/metaanswer.asp?metaEngine=directhit &

origin=0 & MetaURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Esleepapnea%2Eorg%2F & qCat

egory=jeeves & metaTopic=American+Sleep+Apnea+Association+%2D+

ASAA & ItemOrdinal=0 & logQID=E55069A78952D411A3930090278D1981

These are excellent sites, although very long. I did a

search for you to find anything on sleep apnea, and this is

the one that came up first. I use it on my own support

group for fibromyalgia, since it is so common with that

disease.

I hope this has helped.

Debi Hoggan of Utah

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been a matter of choice.

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Re: Tired

> In a message dated 7/2/2000 3:33:20 PM Pacific Daylight

Time,

> kwolters@... writes:

>

> << I had a problem of being tired all the the time and

> talked to my doctor about it. He suggested a sleep study

to determine if I

> had any problems. Low and behold I have SLeep Apnea BIG

TIME. >>

>

> I didnt know that Diastrophic's can have Sleep Apnea. A

doctor asked if I

> had it and I replied no. Because I was told that Sleep

Apnea was a

> characteristic of Achondroplasia. Can you tell me if have

a cleft palate can

> have a cause and efect on this? All I know is that I

snore because of my

> cleft palate.

> wiggles

>

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Hi !

*hugs* to you! So glad that you're dose increase is done with!!

I'll tell you what I do on days that I feel like that...it really helps me. I

don't know if it will help you or not, but here's my suggestion...

On days that I feel really bad, I write down all of my feelings, fears,

frustrations, etc. on little scraps of paper...roll them up...

I go to the local flower shop, and buy helium balloons. Put the papers in the

balloons before they blow them up...

Then I can send the worries away just by letting go of the balloons. I also do

this on days that I'm really missing my little man, I write letters to him and

send them to heaven for him. :)

*hugs*

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>

> I want to know how you people out there handle days like the one I've

> had.

>

> Coming out of a a bad night's sleep , very restless, full of ominous

> doomy dreams, I've been almost completely negative today, the fear of

> the future was back with enough force to make me physically sick, my

> sense of humour had deserted me (always a bad sign my wife says)and I

> even found I was feeling sorry for myself, the most futile of all

> emotions

>

> All I could do was repeat to myself 'this will pass' and it has and

> I'm now back in balance again but how do you cope with days like this

> when you have, as yet, much more distressing physical symptoms than

> me - how do you cope with days when your just so plain tired of

> fighting (I'm tired of side effects and feeling ill all the time -

> you must get that way from time to time).

>

> Answers, ah if only there were answers to problems like today (and if

> anyone sends me the lyrics of 'There are more questions than answers'

> I'll track them down and remonstrate with them personally and with a

> big stick).

>

> Feeling better for moaning on at all you good people - I think I'll

> sleep better tonight.

>

> Every ship must have a helmsman

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Hi !

Actually, it's really hard to write the letters, but it feels so good to say

everything that I want to say, if that makes any sense. Because I knew that

Matty had a life-ending disease (isn't that funny?? they don't say " terminal "

anymore, now it's " life-ending " ), I

was lucky in the sense that I never put off saying anything to him. Anything

that I wanted him to know, I said it loud and I said it often, and I know that

he knew. He knew that I love him, how very proud I was to be his momma, how

proud I was of him and his strength

and courage. But sometimes it does help to say it all again, in a letter or

whatever, and send it off to him. Matty loved balloons, so I know that he

eagerly waits for the next balloon to come. As much as he loved them, he never

could keep them for long :-)

*hugs*

K wrote:

> I also do this on days that I'm really missing my little man, I

> write letters to him and send them to heaven for him. :)

>

> Oh ,

> I am sitting here in tears thinking of you doing this, what a

> beautiful thing to do :-)

> *huge hugs*

> :-)

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I know this sounds funny, but what is the name of your font that you are

using here? I find it very pleasing.

Re: Re: Tired

Hi !

Actually, it's really hard to write the letters, but it feels so good to say

everything that I want to say, if that makes any sense. Because I knew that

Matty had a life-ending disease (isn't that funny?? they don't say

" terminal " anymore, now it's " life-ending " ), I

was lucky in the sense that I never put off saying anything to him. Anything

that I wanted him to know, I said it loud and I said it often, and I know

that he knew. He knew that I love him, how very proud I was to be his momma,

how proud I was of him and his strength

and courage. But sometimes it does help to say it all again, in a letter or

whatever, and send it off to him. Matty loved balloons, so I know that he

eagerly waits for the next balloon to come. As much as he loved them, he

never could keep them for long :-)

*hugs*

K wrote:

> I also do this on days that I'm really missing my little man, I

> write letters to him and send them to heaven for him. :)

>

> Oh ,

> I am sitting here in tears thinking of you doing this, what a

> beautiful thing to do :-)

> *huge hugs*

> :-)

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you believe, even if it's a tree that stands by itself. Hold on to what you

must do even, if it's a long way from here. Hold on to your life, even if

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Hi .

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I don't know which font you are

seeing, it's either Western, Times New Roman, or Courier New. LOL

Don & wrote:

> ,

>

> I know this sounds funny, but what is the name of your font that you are

> using here? I find it very pleasing.

>

>

>

> Re: Re: Tired

>

> Hi !

> Actually, it's really hard to write the letters, but it feels so good to say

> everything that I want to say, if that makes any sense. Because I knew that

> Matty had a life-ending disease (isn't that funny?? they don't say

> " terminal " anymore, now it's " life-ending " ), I

> was lucky in the sense that I never put off saying anything to him. Anything

> that I wanted him to know, I said it loud and I said it often, and I know

> that he knew. He knew that I love him, how very proud I was to be his momma,

> how proud I was of him and his strength

> and courage. But sometimes it does help to say it all again, in a letter or

> whatever, and send it off to him. Matty loved balloons, so I know that he

> eagerly waits for the next balloon to come. As much as he loved them, he

> never could keep them for long :-)

>

> *hugs*

>

>

> K wrote:

>

> > I also do this on days that I'm really missing my little man, I

> > write letters to him and send them to heaven for him. :)

> >

> > Oh ,

> > I am sitting here in tears thinking of you doing this, what a

> > beautiful thing to do :-)

> > *huge hugs*

> > :-)

> >

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> you believe, even if it's a tree that stands by itself. Hold on to what you

> must do even, if it's a long way from here. Hold on to your life, even if

> it's easier to let go. " - Pueblo Prayer

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It is legal in California but federally illegal. If the feds catch you, you're in trouble but if the State police come, you're okay. Does that make sense? There are all kinds of rules and regulations. I wouldn't chance it with my boys here. I have so many people coming and going all the time. Thanks for the idea. I hope it's legally legal soon.

Lee

<wcsjohn@...> wrote:

I'm on tricky ground here but what's the legal position with regard to Marijuana where you live - is it allowed for medical usage - It's an extremely effective anti nausea drug. For the record I smoked it in Amsterdam, where it's legal, and it stopped my nausea totally - I can't use it in UK because it's still classed as a dangerous narcoticwith severe penalties.

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You can always count on a song from me. Here's an oldie but a goodie, with your theme:

WHENEVER I FEEL AFRAID, I HOLD MY HEAD ERECT

AND I WHISTLE A HAPPY TUNE, SO NO ONE WILL SUSPECT

I'M AFRAID

MAKE BELIEVE YOU'RE BRAVE AND THE TRICK WILL TAKE YOU FAR

YOU MAY BE AS BRAVE, AS YOU MAKE BELIEVE YOU ARE.

<wcsjohn@...> wrote:

LeeI can almost feel your tiredeness from your emailI've only been diagnosed 8 months but during that time I have thrown up so many times that it gets extremely boring - and yes you hit a chord in me that says "I'm tired too" - I think everyone in a group like this must feel tired at some stage. It's hard to explain to people who've never experienced it how EXHAUSTING constant nausea and vomiting are - I get tired just thinking about it!You have no choice but to believe that there will still be good days -it's either that or give up the fight - how tempting that is sometimes.But we don't give in - Not us - at least not yetFight FiercelyLOL> > I'm so tired of being sick. I'm supposed to be at a meeting for my son. Instead of lying here throwing my guts up. Why? I can barely sit up. It gets so hard sometimes.> > Of course, I should look on the bright side. A friend just called and is going to bring me some ginger ale. Thank heaven for friends.> > Lee> > > > --------------------------------->

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"and yes you hit a chord in me that says "I'm tired too" - I think everyone in a group like this must feel tired at some stage."

me me me me me me me me me me me me me meeeeeeeeeeeeeee

(I sung that by the way could you tell? lol)

I just woke up and I already feel bulldozered... hmmm dozing... snoozing...naps... *sleepy smiles*

SICK AND TIRED OF BEING SICK AND TIRED.... hands up who is?

*raises my hand*

ACK! That was tiring also *yawns*

We need an international snooze week where everyone just snoozes for a week...

I'd say to everyone that we should all rest more, but I know that REST is one of those 4 letter words. In my case resting dont help anyhow - anyone else feel like that?

*zaps everyone with lots of energy*

Love Aisha

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"I'm so tired of being sick. I'm supposed to be at a meeting for my son. Instead of lying here throwing my guts up. Why? I can barely sit up. It gets so hard sometimes."

*gentle hugs Lee*

Why are you throwing up?

I hope you are feeling better soon.....

*passes you back some sexy hershey kiss shaped slippers that were lying around*

Love Aisha

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Hi Celine;

It could be a multitude of things. Poor rest is definitely a

starting place, then coupled with the fact that the sun isn't shining

could be a factor. Do you ever experience the winter blues? The UV

rays of the sun react on your skin to produce vitamin D which

stimulates those good feelings. Vitamin D is a needed vitamin. So

that could be it. But if you do not have a problem with the winter

blahs like me it might be something else. What have you eaten

today? And how much actual sound sleep did you get last night?

Mechelle

> Do any of you experience a really tired day once and a while? I

have been eating right and doing my weights etc. ( not so great on

the cardio side) I have had lots of extra energy, but not today. I

feel like I can barely stay awake. I know that part of it is that I

slept on the couch because my daughter came into our bed. But, I had

0 energy today. Is this my body's way of telling me something? Maybe

it's not used to the weights and needs a rest? I got the new Energy

magazine the other day. ( which is awesome this month by the way) I

have started to use the workout plan in there. Maybe my body is in

shock? Or could it just be the weather? It is gloomy and windy here

today...I don't know what it is. I find that i am getting muscle and

losing weight. Why the off day?

> Celine:)

>

>

>

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Well it looks like the diet is in order. It has to be being

sedentary today ( I experience the exact same things) and no sun. I

really suggest (cause this helps me) that in the winter you get in

the tanning bed if possible for at least 5 to 10 minutes a day.

Especially if you live somewhere where it is really dreary in the

winter. On days there is not much going on. Go ahead and take a

walk around the neighborhood even if you have done your morning

cardio and your weight training. I'm behind on the water today also

so we both need to drink up! Do you have access to a tanning bed?

Still can't hurt to go in the summer either even if just for 10

minutes. And if you are worried about wrinkles and all of that. You

can use a sun screen and still get the effects of the UV rays

reacting on your skin to create vitamin D.

> > Do any of you experience a really tired day once and a while? I

> have been eating right and doing my weights etc. ( not so great

on

> the cardio side) I have had lots of extra energy, but not today.

I

> feel like I can barely stay awake. I know that part of it is that

I

> slept on the couch because my daughter came into our bed. But, I

had

> 0 energy today. Is this my body's way of telling me something?

Maybe

> it's not used to the weights and needs a rest? I got the new

Energy

> magazine the other day. ( which is awesome this month by the way)

I

> have started to use the workout plan in there. Maybe my body is

in

> shock? Or could it just be the weather? It is gloomy and windy

here

> today...I don't know what it is. I find that i am getting muscle

and

> losing weight. Why the off day?

> > Celine:)

> >

> >

> >

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You are most welcome! I love to help. And Canada is BEAUTIFUL! I've

visited Montreal before and it was great. I live in North Carolina

and it is hot as a fire cracker here. We do not even get snow any

more. But it still gets a little cold in the winter and it rains

like crazy from March till May which is obviously spring. Right now

we are going through a drought though. We have the craziest weather.

But good luck! I know you are going to do an awesome job. Also if

you are using supplements, which I'm sure you need to to help with

recovery (which will effect your energy levels) you can buy EAS brand

on line at www.easdiscount.com for about half of what it costs in

retail shops. I'm not sure if they ship to Canada though? You may

want to go check it out. But 3 servings of Betagen & Glutamine a day

on workout days will help you like you wouldn't believe. Your

strength will increase and you will also notice you aren't as sore

after your workouts. Also if you take a fat burner in the morning at

least 30 minutes to 1 hour before your cardio this will help get you

up and running in the morning.

> > > Do any of you experience a really tired day once and a

while? I

> > have been eating right and doing my weights etc. ( not so

great

> on

> > the cardio side) I have had lots of extra energy, but not

today.

> I

> > feel like I can barely stay awake. I know that part of it is

that

> I

> > slept on the couch because my daughter came into our bed.

But, I

> had

> > 0 energy today. Is this my body's way of telling me

something?

> Maybe

> > it's not used to the weights and needs a rest? I got the new

> Energy

> > magazine the other day. ( which is awesome this month by the

way)

> I

> > have started to use the workout plan in there. Maybe my body

is

> in

> > shock? Or could it just be the weather? It is gloomy and

windy

> here

> > today...I don't know what it is. I find that i am getting

muscle

> and

> > losing weight. Why the off day?

> > > Celine:)

> > >

> > >

> > >

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I do get the winter blues. That is why I started BFL when the sun was shining. I

find that I stay inside and do nothing in the winter. That's when i really get

fat. This could be the day that i am experiencing it. plus add on that we didn't

have anything that needed to be done today, just stay at home all day.

What I had to eat today:

Carrot corn muffin ( recipe in the Energy magazine, made with cornmeal and

carrots, thus the name)

Oatmeal with cottage cheese

Salmon with lettuce, cucumbers and dressing, and a apple

Tuna chili ( recipe from MrsBishwits site)

It's only 5:30 pm. So, I may get in one more thing to eat. I also drank maybe 3

glasses of water.

Celine:)

Re: Tired

Hi Celine;

It could be a multitude of things. Poor rest is definitely a

starting place, then coupled with the fact that the sun isn't shining

could be a factor. Do you ever experience the winter blues? The UV

rays of the sun react on your skin to produce vitamin D which

stimulates those good feelings. Vitamin D is a needed vitamin. So

that could be it. But if you do not have a problem with the winter

blahs like me it might be something else. What have you eaten

today? And how much actual sound sleep did you get last night?

Mechelle

> Do any of you experience a really tired day once and a while? I

have been eating right and doing my weights etc. ( not so great on

the cardio side) I have had lots of extra energy, but not today. I

feel like I can barely stay awake. I know that part of it is that I

slept on the couch because my daughter came into our bed. But, I had

0 energy today. Is this my body's way of telling me something? Maybe

it's not used to the weights and needs a rest? I got the new Energy

magazine the other day. ( which is awesome this month by the way) I

have started to use the workout plan in there. Maybe my body is in

shock? Or could it just be the weather? It is gloomy and windy here

today...I don't know what it is. I find that i am getting muscle and

losing weight. Why the off day?

> Celine:)

>

>

>

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I live in Alberta, Canada, so yes we get lots of yucky weather in the winter. I

never thought of a tanning bed. Maybe then I won't look so sick in the winter

either. LOL I am sure that I could go to any of the tanning places close to me.

Like I said, I am sure that today was an off day and tomorrow is another day.

Thanks for the info.

Celine:)

Re: Tired

Well it looks like the diet is in order. It has to be being

sedentary today ( I experience the exact same things) and no sun. I

really suggest (cause this helps me) that in the winter you get in

the tanning bed if possible for at least 5 to 10 minutes a day.

Especially if you live somewhere where it is really dreary in the

winter. On days there is not much going on. Go ahead and take a

walk around the neighborhood even if you have done your morning

cardio and your weight training. I'm behind on the water today also

so we both need to drink up! Do you have access to a tanning bed?

Still can't hurt to go in the summer either even if just for 10

minutes. And if you are worried about wrinkles and all of that. You

can use a sun screen and still get the effects of the UV rays

reacting on your skin to create vitamin D.

> > Do any of you experience a really tired day once and a while? I

> have been eating right and doing my weights etc. ( not so great

on

> the cardio side) I have had lots of extra energy, but not today.

I

> feel like I can barely stay awake. I know that part of it is that

I

> slept on the couch because my daughter came into our bed. But, I

had

> 0 energy today. Is this my body's way of telling me something?

Maybe

> it's not used to the weights and needs a rest? I got the new

Energy

> magazine the other day. ( which is awesome this month by the way)

I

> have started to use the workout plan in there. Maybe my body is

in

> shock? Or could it just be the weather? It is gloomy and windy

here

> today...I don't know what it is. I find that i am getting muscle

and

> losing weight. Why the off day?

> > Celine:)

> >

> >

> >

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As an alternative to the tanning booth, there are lamps which you can

buy that simulate sunlight. Many people suffering from seasonal

depression find them very helpful.

Alys

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> As an alternative to the tanning booth, there are lamps which you

can

> buy that simulate sunlight. Many people suffering from seasonal

> depression find them very helpful.

>

> Alys

Lots of people in Alaska buy these. With little sunlight in the

winter we need them. Now if only we could store some of our summer

sunlight up, today we got over 18 hours. And he was sunny yeah!!!

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I just did that yesterday, just wiped out by mid afternoon and I was

on track with all my meals and water and exercise, although I did

spend all day Sunday working hard outside, delayed recovery from hard

work I think. Were you busy all weekend?

> Do any of you experience a really tired day once and a while? I

have been eating right and doing my weights etc. ( not so great on

the cardio side) I have had lots of extra energy, but not today. I

feel like I can barely stay awake. I know that part of it is that I

slept on the couch because my daughter came into our bed. But, I had

0 energy today. Is this my body's way of telling me something? Maybe

it's not used to the weights and needs a rest? I got the new Energy

magazine the other day. ( which is awesome this month by the way) I

have started to use the workout plan in there. Maybe my body is in

shock? Or could it just be the weather? It is gloomy and windy here

today...I don't know what it is. I find that i am getting muscle and

losing weight. Why the off day?

> Celine:)

>

>

>

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When you're working out as hard as you are (esp. weigh training),

your body needs sleep to recuperate and build muscle. If you do

nothing all day, you can get away with sleeping 5-6 hrs. a night, but

you're an athlete now.

I need 7-9 hrs. of sleep a night (8 is perfect), and I make sure I

get it most of the time. If I have to, I won't go out with friends;

my body and health are more important to me than partying. Those are

the sacrifices you make. You can't build muscle and lean out without

sleep. Indeed, studies show that a lack of sleep causes your body to

release cortisol, a stress hormone, related to abdominal fat

storage. Scary, eh?

Dani

> I am half way through week 4 and I am so tired. I used to be fine

> getting between 5 and 7 hours of sleep a night. Now if I don't get

> at least 8 I can't function and even then I am still tired. Has

> anyone else had this problem?

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Hi there Elly,

So good to hear from you! Sleep is good for you, but

it can be annoying to feel so fatigued you fall asleep

sitting up. Sorry to hear of all your pain. How about

the arm? Is that pain finally better?

Hopefully we can somehow meet this summer. At

this time, I'm fighting with the mtx again. I keep

trying to tell my body this will help, and it keeps

telling me " don't like it..don't want that stuff. " I'll

take the shots for a couple of weeks yet and see

what happens. I think I'm " between a rock and a

hard place. " .....again. How many years this can

go on I just don't know.

Hugs Elly,

~~tricia~~

Wisconsin

*****************************************************************************

*******

-- Tired

Hi friends,

I just got back from my visit down-state to my Rheumy,and I have

literally been in bed since!I am sooo tired that I fall asleep

sitting up!I have to have an x-ray of my back.(I knew it was coming)

I;ve had a pretty bad back for about 2 months,my spine feels like the

bones in my shoulders,which is yucky,but I shall overcome!!!I want to

send out a prayer for all the men and women serving our country andd

their families and friends.I am so unhappy for those who are

seperated from their loved ones and for all thos people who may

suffer because of the war,but I truly believe in our great country

and our ability to bounce back.Jen is your husband deployed? Anyway,

on a personal note, God Bless America and all she stands for. " Lets

Roll " .

Love Elly

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Hey Elly, yes my husband is over there, it hasnt been an easy day, Im

here now with the kids at their house and we are all glued to the tv,

thank goodness they are intelligent kids and can grasp it all,

the youngest is 10 he is learning to play the guitar now and he's

trying to play Amazing Grace for me, he's so sweet.

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Do you listen to music while you do cardio? It really helps me. Try

making a tape or CD (if you have a burner) of your favorite upbeat

songs. They will motivate you and keep you going until the end.

> I just can seem to muster up the energy to do my cardio. Any

> suggestions? I do it first thing in the morning, but I am really

tired

> and want to quit about half way thru. I get lots of rest, and do

> great on my weight lifting days, but cardio is HELL!

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