Liver flushes

[Guest guest]

I have heard of the remedy of harvesting the root of a in the fall and

soaking a handfull of it in 1 pint of vodka for three months. You should use

the highest quality vodka you can find.

Has anyone had any experience with this?

[Guest guest]

a good coffee enema is a good relief of toxic burden to liver. i always feel

much better.... better sense of well being, optimism, energy. i have noticed

the same with my daughter's mother.

jd

p.s. i like to take NAC daily (every home should have some for emergencies...

it's used as the antidote to many poisons in the E.R..... mandated for tylenol

poisoning... i always take it if i take tylenol)

ALA (alpha lipoic acid) is another liver protector ... both NAC and

ALA increase GSH (glutathione... the liver's number one antioxidant)

silymarin, Picroliv , astragalus, skullcap, phyllanthus,

artichoke, [polygonum cuspidata (knotweed) A.K.A Protykin... a source of emodin

and resveratrol] dandelion (taraxacum) roots, licorice root

curcumin extract (turmeric) ginger root, and plenty of magnesium

..... i use most of these products daily... also lecithin.... selenium (GSH

and selenium form glutathione peroxidase... scavenges

lipid peroxides (rancid fats), MSM , ascorbates all of these

products are beneficial to keep the liver healthy and like i said, i take most

of them daily

Re: liver flushes

A rule of thumb is that you can often feel the discomfort in the

liver/gallbladder if you tune into your body's feedback mechanisms. Also,

you can sense the toxin levels rising, which often results in brain fog.

Drinking a large amout of water will flush toxins noticeably, and this is

genarally a good idea anyway (1 oz/kg/day or 100 oz for a 200 lbs person).

Also NAC and SAMe have powerful effects on liver function and in taking them

and feeling better, one can intuit the liver might be implicated.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/3/00 8:53:59 PM, dio7g@... writes:

<<

Re: liver flushes

> I have heard of the remedy of harvesting the root of a in the fall and

> soaking a handfull of it in 1 pint of vodka for three months. You should

use

> the highest quality vodka you can find.

>

> Has anyone had any experience with this?

ROOT OF WHAT??

>>

Oh, sorry about that - a glitch in my email: harvest the root of yellowdock.

[Guest guest]

Thanks,

Perhaps I'll try Hulda's Flush again. Since the toxic load on the body and

mind is sumulative, the simple answer is that all the toxins combined = the

overall load, keeping in mind that different toxins are more potent than

others. This is why the quacksalvers can keep misdirecting people with their

phony " studies " the mercury is safe.

A rule of thumb is that you can often feel the discomfort in the

liver/gallbladder if you tune into your body's feedback mechanisms. Also,

you can sense the toxin levels rising, which often results in brain fog.

Drinking a large amout of water will flush toxins noticeably, and this is

genarally a good idea anyway (1 oz/kg/day or 100 oz for a 200 lbs person).

Also NAC and SAMe have powerful effects on liver function and in taking them

and feeling better, one can intuit the liver might be implicated.

Candida is suspect if you are having cravings for coffee, sugar (incl

alcohol), & wheat. Candida usually begins in the colon and eventually can

become systemic. Yeast infections, knarly toenails, and allergies are

symptomic of Candida. The toxins produced by various strains are ethanol,

acetaldehyde, and candidatoxin. Men get this too.

You can also have your physician run a tox panel which can detect the level

and type of toxins in bloodstream. They end up in blood, urine, sweat, etc.

even though the pathogen is not found there. The toxin can often help

determine which pathogens are present. Electrodermal screening and/or

kinesology can also pinpoint the type and source of toxins quickly. Finally,

an elimination diet can be vital in determining what is making you not feel

well. I imagine there are other options that I'm not aware of.

Hope this works for you.

Matt

|Hi Matt,

|

|There are a number of liver flush protocols/methods

|around. I find it a bit confusing at times.

|

|I have not done Hulda's, although I am considering it

|[and printed out the directions so I can talk to my

|acupunturist about it].

|

|I recently did the Dr. Schulze liver flush.

|You can get all the info on this by calling 800-HERBDOC

|and asking them to send you the literature [patient

|handbook, etc.]. [The phone # is American Botanical

|Pharmacy, they sell his herbal formulas.]

|

|Years ago I did a liver flush from the book Foundations

|of Health by Hobbs. [This book is about

|digestion; Hobbs is an herbalist.]

|

|If you want some more options, you might try subscribing

|to bowel cleanse [also on egroups] and asking there.

|

|I found the part about " counting stones " [in the directions

|for Hulda's cleanse] pretty intriguing. Interesting that

|you didn't see any.... I wonder how many people do/don't.

|[i've not seen any on other cleanses I notes above, either.

|Which is okay with me.]

|

|Gee, while I'm on the subject, I have a liver question that

|I'm extrememly curious about.... Maybe someone here can

|shed some light on this:

|

|SO, I did this 5-day liver cleanse [raw food on day 1 & 5,

|and juice only on day 2/3/4; morning drink of citrus juice

|with olive oil, ginger, and garlic; 3 cups a day of detox

|tea; doses of 2 herbal tincture combinations for liver

|cleansing and general detox.] While not the most

|difficult thing I can think up, this took effort,

|time and planning.

|

|About a week later, I found myself drinking small amounts

|of coffee [something I don't usually do]. I also do a

|number of other things that I think tax the liver [breathe

|smog, eat non-organic food, eat sugar, etc.]

|

|My question is: just how easy is it to impair the liver?

|How much coffee [or pesticides/drugs/alcohol/etc] does

|it take to erase the " good " one does in cleansing?

|Or, conversely, how much cleansing does it take to get

|a really clean liver?

|

|I realize this would depend on how much work the liver

|has to do a regular basis [e.g. how toxic one's environment

|and food are]. Still, there must be some kind of a

|general rule-of-thumb?

|

|Any insight or experiences on that?

|Is there, perhaps, someone reading this who has done

|30 liver flushes and can comment on whether they stop

|having any effect?

|

|Thanks!

|Moria

|

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[Guest guest]

Re: liver flushes

> I have heard of the remedy of harvesting the root of a in the fall and

> soaking a handfull of it in 1 pint of vodka for three months. You should

use

> the highest quality vodka you can find.

>

> Has anyone had any experience with this?

ROOT OF WHAT??

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/3/00 7:47:46 PM Central Daylight Time, zoewho@...

writes:

<< I have heard of the remedy of harvesting the root of a in the fall and

soaking a handfull of it in 1 pint of vodka for three months. You should use

the highest quality vodka you can find.

Has anyone had any experience with this? >>

I have made a number of tinctures myself and have had some success in using

them. I have made them from dried herbs and some ground to powder herbs from

a good supplier. I leave them in the 100 proof alcohol for a few months at a

time. Then strain it and bottle it.

Gene Downey

[Guest guest]

does any one know whether using just olive oil and lemon juice as salad

dressing on a regular basis is effective as a milder liver flushing action??

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[Guest guest]

I would like to know what you mean when you say you don't " feel " that what came

out was olive oil. How would you " feel " any different if it was olive oil or

stones or chocolate? Personally I don't see how you would know unless you had

it tested.

Somebody must know what color gallstones are when you have them surgically

removed... Anyone?

Thanks,

Doris

----- Original Message -----

At no time did I feel that what came

out was undigested olive oil. I got many greenish

stones from the gb and then when I did Hulda 's

program, I got big (some up to 1/2 inch) from the

liver (if she is to be believed).

[Guest guest]

Liver flushes can be helpful in getting rid of toxins as well as

expelling gallstones from your body. The key is that you don't want

to do too many in a row as they can be draining on your body.

(Especially those weak with CFIDS.) I found a good idea is to have a

colonic (or at least do an enema) afterwards to get rid if any stones

or toxins that may not have come out on their own. It may take a few

days for all to come out, especially if you are " clogged up " . Also a

sauna afterwards is a good idea.

Hope that helps. Good luck.

[Guest guest]

The more I read this, the more it sounds like BS. This is not to say

's stuff doesn't work for people in some instances, for whatever

reason. But if she had the " Cure for AIDS, " I really don't think it would

be such a secret. This lady is probably half-sense, half-snake-oil.

As far as thse stones go, its interesting that some folks here are actually

postulating that the olive oil and whatever stuff she has one ingest

actually form the " stones. " I'll say this much: I doubt anyone's ever

tested these things, for one, and for another, you'd see them on a sonogram.

I've been told my many a semi-holistic doc that I have a " weak " liver, and

wouldn't be surprised if I have neurotoxins or other toxins building up.

But I've had at least three abdominal sonograms by " real " doctors, and I

think if I had stones in the liver or gall bladder, I'd know by now.

- in CA

Re: Liver Flushes

> I would like to know what you mean when you say you don't " feel " that what

came out was olive oil. How would you " feel " any different if it was olive

oil or stones or chocolate? Personally I don't see how you would know

unless you had it tested.

>

> Somebody must know what color gallstones are when you have them surgically

removed... Anyone?

> Thanks,

> Doris

> ----- Original Message -----

> At no time did I feel that what came

> out was undigested olive oil. I got many greenish

> stones from the gb and then when I did Hulda 's

> program, I got big (some up to 1/2 inch) from the

> liver (if she is to be believed).

>

>

[Guest guest]

Don't foget parasite cleanse beforehand ...

Dan

-- In oxyplus , " Larkin and Hillary " <mcdillis@b...>

wrote:

> Dear Listmates,

>

> I (47, f) have done 6 liver flushes. They are very easy to do,

take less than 24 hours and result in, at least to me, a wonderful

feeling of wellbeing that one might vaguely remember from childhood.

>

> I did my first flush after fasting on lemon juice, maple syrup

and cayenne pepper for 5 days. I got out maybe 300-600 stones

varying from lentil- to marble-sized. I felt really dehydrated

afterwards and made sure to drink more water in advance now that I

know better. I didn't prepare for the next five flushes, and had

varying but fewer " stones, " none huge.

>

> I crushed a " stone " to see what it was made of. I was kind of

yellow/brown on the inside (green on the outside), soft and

definitely not made of congealed olive oil. It smelled bad, like a

kind of bad breath. I think it is a certain kind of bacteria that

smells like this. I am guessing that it is clostridia. I noticed

that my mouth stays much cleaner after I have done these flushes.

Maybe the bacteria migrates (or resonates) between the

liver/gallbladder and the mouth.

>

> Next time I plan to add maybe a dozen apples to my diet during the

3 days before the flush. I understand that the malic acid in the

apples helps loosen and break up the " stones. " Malic acid can also

be purchased at Presque Isle wine supplies in a powdered form. I

have some of that too, but haven't used it. It's sour.

>

> s Moritz wrote a book called " The Amazing Liver Cleanse. "

He also answers questions about it on his forum on The Cure Zone.

Regards, Hillary

>

>

[Guest guest]

Don't foget parasite cleanse beforehand ...

Dan

-- In oxyplus , " Larkin and Hillary " <mcdillis@b...>

wrote:

> Dear Listmates,

>

> I (47, f) have done 6 liver flushes. They are very easy to do,

take less than 24 hours and result in, at least to me, a wonderful

feeling of wellbeing that one might vaguely remember from childhood.

>

> I did my first flush after fasting on lemon juice, maple syrup

and cayenne pepper for 5 days. I got out maybe 300-600 stones

varying from lentil- to marble-sized. I felt really dehydrated

afterwards and made sure to drink more water in advance now that I

know better. I didn't prepare for the next five flushes, and had

varying but fewer " stones, " none huge.

>

> I crushed a " stone " to see what it was made of. I was kind of

yellow/brown on the inside (green on the outside), soft and

definitely not made of congealed olive oil. It smelled bad, like a

kind of bad breath. I think it is a certain kind of bacteria that

smells like this. I am guessing that it is clostridia. I noticed

that my mouth stays much cleaner after I have done these flushes.

Maybe the bacteria migrates (or resonates) between the

liver/gallbladder and the mouth.

>

> Next time I plan to add maybe a dozen apples to my diet during the

3 days before the flush. I understand that the malic acid in the

apples helps loosen and break up the " stones. " Malic acid can also

be purchased at Presque Isle wine supplies in a powdered form. I

have some of that too, but haven't used it. It's sour.

>

> s Moritz wrote a book called " The Amazing Liver Cleanse. "

He also answers questions about it on his forum on The Cure Zone.

Regards, Hillary

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sharon Most flushes might be safe for people who are well, but I would never attempt any of them without being under a health care professional since you have hep c. Please check with your doc about it before you do anything as some herbs are very toxic for a sick liver.. be safe hon jaxsharon <csharonxoxo@...> wrote: Are any of the recommended flushes effective? By recommended, I guess any of the ones so commonly read about. I don't know anything about them, just curious.Shaaron Jackie

[Guest guest]

I've done a couple of coffee enema's. I actually did feel better. It's not a big deal. Anyone can do it. Since I was diagnosed in March of this year I've tried to learn as much as possible. Since I'm only at stage 1 I really did not want to do the interferon unless I had to. I have taken the holistic approach with pretty good results. I found that most of the Dr's I have seen have no clue about hep c and all of the fun things that go along with it. So I'm taking charge of my own health. Actually I'm going to do a liver cleanse this week and after you drink the olive oil you do a coffee enema to help the liver get the bile moving. I know you guys have talked about the liver/gall stones. We all have them and need to get rid of them. My cousin has a talk show about health and interviews Dr's and health practioners. It is available on the web at patricktimpone.com There is an interview with a woman named Annie Jubb, and

she talks about the procedure. I think there are many other routes we can take besides western medicine. Why do you think they say they are "practicing medicine"? Because thats what their doing, practicing on us! Best Regards, Steve I'll let you know how everything comes out (not literally )

sharon <csharonxoxo@...> wrote: Are any of the recommended flushes effective? By recommended, I guess any of the ones so commonly read about. I don't know anything about them, just curious.Shaaron

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry, with no gall bladder drinking olive oil is just SO wrong. I would be violently ill trying to do it.

Sally

-----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis C [mailto:Hepatitis C ] On Behalf Of steve brewerSent: Monday, December 12, 2005 8:46 PMHepatitis C Subject: Re: Liver flushes

I've done a couple of coffee enema's. I actually did feel better. It's not a big deal. Anyone can do it. Since I was diagnosed in March of this year I've tried to learn as much as possible. Since I'm only at stage 1 I really did not want to do the interferon unless I had to.

I have taken the holistic approach with pretty good results. I found that most of the Dr's I have seen have no clue about hep c and all of the fun things that go along with it. So I'm taking charge of my own health.

Actually I'm going to do a liver cleanse this week and after you drink the olive oil you do a coffee enema to help the liver get the bile moving.

I know you guys have talked about the liver/gall stones. We all have them and need to get rid of them.

My cousin has a talk show about health and interviews Dr's and health practioners. It is available on the web at patricktimpone.com

There is an interview with a woman named Annie Jubb, and she talks about the procedure.

I think there are many other routes we can take besides western medicine. Why do you think they say they are "practicing medicine"? Because thats what their doing, practicing on us!

Best Regards, Steve I'll let you know how everything comes out (not literally ) sharon <csharonxoxo@...> wrote:

Are any of the recommended flushes effective? By recommended, I guess any of the ones so commonly read about. I don't know anything about them, just curious.Shaaron

[Guest guest]

I dont have a gall bladder now either,, hmmm, wonder if it would be really bad ,, I have known others who did it without one, but it doesnt sound very appetising, thats for sure,,Sally Hines <shines@...> wrote: I'm sorry, with no gall bladder drinking olive oil is just SO wrong. I would be violently ill trying to do it. Sally -----Original Message-----From:

Hepatitis C [mailto:Hepatitis C ] On Behalf Of steve brewerSent: Monday, December 12, 2005 8:46 PMHepatitis C Subject: Re: Liver flushes I've done a couple of coffee enema's. I actually did feel better. It's not a big deal. Anyone can do it. Since I was diagnosed in March of this year I've tried to learn as much as possible. Since I'm only at stage 1 I really did not want to do the interferon unless I had to. I have taken the holistic approach with pretty good results. I found that most of the Dr's I have seen have no clue about hep c and all of the fun things that go along with it. So I'm taking charge of my own health. Actually I'm going to do a liver cleanse this week and after you drink the olive oil you do a coffee enema to help the liver get the bile moving. I know you guys have

talked about the liver/gall stones. We all have them and need to get rid of them. My cousin has a talk show about health and interviews Dr's and health practioners. It is available on the web at patricktimpone.com There is an interview with a woman named Annie Jubb, and she talks about the procedure. I think there are many other routes we can take besides western medicine. Why do you think they say they are "practicing medicine"? Because thats what their doing, practicing on us! Best Regards, Steve I'll let

you know how everything comes out (not literally ) sharon <csharonxoxo@...> wrote: Are any of the recommended flushes effective? By recommended, I guess any of the ones so commonly read about. I don't know anything about them, just curious.Shaaron Jackie

[Guest guest]

Hi Tubs I have been learning about it and I DO know several ppl who HAVE done a flush, I myself have not,, so far,,Tubs46@... wrote: I've been reading a little about this and I was wondering ig any of you do this. Eddie Jackie

[Guest guest]

Hi there all - has anyone done any liver flushes as mentioned on the site. (I

read a few testimonials that sounded fairly convincing!)

Has anyone with cirrhosis done any liver flushes?

Would be interested to hear results.

Also there seems to be differing ideas as to whether the liver regenerates

itself at the cirrhosis stage.

I have Hep C induced cirrhosis, and this is why I am interested in your views /

experience in this area.

thanks guys

Ashe