New Treatment

December 17, 2001

You will be in my prayers. I hope that your

treatment this time goes easier. I applaud you that you are

willing to give science another try. I just started the

new treatment 6 weeks ago. now I won't say that it is

a breeze, but my Dr has been able to manage the

side effects rather well with anti-depressants and

phenergan. I hope that you do well. God bless and have a

Peaceful and painfree holiday. email me

anytime

December 17, 2001

You will be in my prayers. I hope that your

treatment this time goes easier. I applaud you that you are

willing to give science another try. I just started the

new treatment 6 weeks ago. now I won't say that it is

a breeze, but my Dr has been able to manage the

side effects rather well with anti-depressants and

phenergan. I hope that you do well. God bless and have a

Peaceful and painfree holiday. email me

anytime

December 19, 2001

Thanks , I'll write a message here while going through the treatment.

Happy Holiday to you and your family. Kurt

December 19, 2001

Thanks , I'll write a message here while going through the treatment.

Happy Holiday to you and your family. Kurt

December 20, 2001

That will be great. I'd be glad to be of any support to you and your family that

I can be. Happy Holidays to you too.

December 20, 2001

That will be great. I'd be glad to be of any support to you and your family that

I can be. Happy Holidays to you too.

January 10, 2002

I was under the impression that the CDC criteria were originally written for

research purposes only, and not for diagnostic purposes. In research, it is

necessary to weed out other disorders if you intend to specifically study

one particular disorder. Other similar disorders (such as Fibromyalgia) do

not disclude having other disorders that may cause similar symptoms.

(Fibromyalgia, for example, does not disclude having Multiple Sclerosis, for

example, or Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.) I have Fibromyalgia, and also have

CFS. I started with CFS. I also have RA, but have had CFS for 25 years, and

FM and RA for only three years. RA also causes fatigue problems. Having had

CFS for a much longer time than RA, just because I developed RA doesn't mean

I automatically no longer have CFS. Many people with CFS develop depression

related to their disorder. Depression can cause fatigue. Does that mean if

you suffer from depression that you therefore can't have CFS? Does that mean

that all people who have CFS are bright and cheerful people all the time,

and can't develop depression? Does that mean that a depressed individual is

incapable of developing CFS?

Using the criteria for ME as an example, it does not disclude you from

having ME just because you also have some other disorder that may cause

fatigue, because the criteria for Me are focused more on the neurological

aspects. Yet ME and CFS are often used synonymously.

It would be possible to have CFS and then develop Graves disease. In fact,

the mere fact that CFS causes immune shifting makes PWC's more vulnerable to

developing other autoimmune disorders, Graves disease being an autoimmune

disorder and therefore more likely for a PWC to develop. And Graves disease

and CFS may not have all overlapping symptoms. It's important to be able to

distinguish between the overlapping symptoms and symptoms that are not in

common. In the case of the CDC criteria, the listed criteria are not

adequate for doing so, and fail to be adequate diagnostic critera.

lindaj@...

New treatment

> I think that grave disease would rule out CFS so you should go to WEB MD

and

> find more about that and your other conditions. You cannot be considered

to

> have CFS if you have other diseases that would explain your fatigue. Go to

> the CDC site and you can read about the qualifications for have CFS. And I

> can assure you that anything that promise that much is a lie.

>

> Steve

>

June 23, 2002

THANK YOU FOR THE NEW INFO. I WILL PASS IT ON TO MY PRIMARY DR. THERE IS STILL

HOPE OUT THERE. ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE WITH GOD.

LOVE IN HIS LIGHT

SANDY

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June 23, 2002

THANK YOU FOR THE NEW INFO. I WILL PASS IT ON TO MY PRIMARY DR. THERE IS STILL

HOPE OUT THERE. ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE WITH GOD.

LOVE IN HIS LIGHT

SANDY

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October 31, 2004

In a message dated 10/31/2004 5:10:08 AM Pacific Standard Time,

lnsmrn@... writes:

There is a new treatment that is called IMAT THERAPY it has shown to

reduce viral loads, increase energy levels,increase CD4 cell count.

I have seen it and it works.

-----------------------------------

Who gives a rat's ass? Is anyone in this group concerned with t-cell

counting or so-called " viral loads? "

I'm sure there are simpler and safer ways to increase energy levels, if

you're having an energy problem. Check out So... Be Healthy!

Ed

October 31, 2004

I agree with Eliot, and I am sure that there are many others out there that

feel the same way.

THanks for sharing insmrn.

October 31, 2004

Actually, I am . I would like to know what it is and how it is supposed

to work. I think we should allow other paradigms to speak. Insmrn would

you mind elaborating?

Thanks

Eliot

Re: New treatment

In a message dated 10/31/2004 5:10:08 AM Pacific Standard Time,

lnsmrn@... writes:

There is a new treatment that is called IMAT THERAPY it has shown to

reduce viral loads, increase energy levels,increase CD4 cell count.

I have seen it and it works.

-----------------------------------

Who gives a rat's ass? Is anyone in this group concerned with t-cell

counting or so-called " viral loads? "

I'm sure there are simpler and safer ways to increase energy levels, if

you're having an energy problem. Check out So... Be Healthy!

Ed

November 2, 2004

The only IMAT I'm aware of is simply a methodology for

delivering radiation therapy in certain cases such as

cancer cases. It does not necessarily reduce viral

loads, increase energy levels or increase CD4 count.

On the other hand, eating more raw foods, exercising

more, particularly rebounding, and drinking more water

all tend to improve one's immune response and increase

energy levels which should be the goals of any person

with an immune disorder.

--- lnsmrn <lnsmrn@...> wrote:

>

> There is a new treatment that is called IMAT THERAPY

> it has shown to

> reduce viral loads, increase energy levels,increase

> CD4 cell count.

> I have seen it and it works.

>

March 25, 2005

Donna,

The website is still under construction. Can you help me understand, He believes that ALL autism is caused by Herpes? Would that mean that one of the parents are a carrier? How would we know if there are no Herpe symptoms could we still carry it? Is this the sexual disease Herpes or the cold sore around the mouth Herpes? Does the metals cause Herpes virus? How? What is the treatment that is working so well?

thanks,

JaneDonna <donnamabes@...> wrote:

We are currently trying a new treatment on my son's AS. We are seeing a doctor in Austin, TX that thinks that all forms of Autism is linked to heavy metals in the blood and that it causes the herpes virus to attack the nerves in the brain. This is what causes them to become so sensitive to light, sound, etc. We have been trying this new treatment for the past three monthes and have seen remarkable results. My son has began trying new foods, he would never touch a hamburger before. He has became more social, more especially towards adults.The doctor's name is Kendal and here is his website if anyone is interested: www.neca.us Thanks & God Bless, Donna

March 25, 2005

Re: New treatment

Donna,

The website is still under construction. Can you help me understand, He

believes that ALL autism is caused by Herpes? Would that mean that one of

the parents are a carrier? How would we know if there are no Herpe symptoms

could we still carry it? Is this the sexual disease Herpes or the cold

sore around the mouth Herpes? Does the metals cause Herpes virus?

How? What is the treatment that is working so well?

thanks,

Jane

*****************Jane, the web site didn’t

come up and this all sounds absurd to me. Now a days there are con’s

everywhere you turn. This one takes the cake…..Gail

March 26, 2005

I am curious to hear more about this treatment. What it involves and everything. Donna <donnamabes@...> wrote:

We are currently trying a new treatment on my son's AS. We are seeing a doctor in Austin, TX that thinks that all forms of Autism is linked to heavy metals in the blood and that it causes the herpes virus to attack the nerves in the brain. This is what causes them to become so sensitive to light, sound, etc. We have been trying this new treatment for the past three monthes and have seen remarkable results. My son has began trying new foods, he would never touch a hamburger before. He has became more social, more especially towards adults.The doctor's name is Kendal and here is his website if anyone is interested: www.neca.us Thanks & God Bless, Donna

March 27, 2005

Donna Its great

to hear that you’ve found something that is helping J I tried to google the web addy but keep getting “the web page

cannot be found “

http://www.neca.us/contact.html

http://www.neca.us/disorders.html

Do you have

a current link ? I searched but cannot locate one .

TIA ,

I am curious

to hear more about this treatment. What it involves and everything.

Donna

<donnamabes@...> wrote:

We are currently trying a new treatment on my son's AS. We are seeing

a doctor in Austin, TX that thinks that all forms of Autism is linked

to heavy metals in the blood and that it causes the herpes virus to

attack the nerves in the brain. This is what causes them to become so

sensitive to light, sound, etc.

We have been trying this new treatment for the past three monthes and

have seen remarkable results. My son has began trying new foods, he

would never touch a hamburger before. He has became more social, more

especially towards adults.

The doctor's name is Kendal and here is his website if anyone

is interested: www.neca.us

Thanks & God Bless, Donna

March 30, 2005

Here is some of the information from the paperwork that I received from Dr. 's office.

NECA's clinical methods are based on a clinical model that assumes that elevated heavy metal titers or viral overload initially interrupted sensory organ development or sensory nerve myelination. Following the inital interruption in sensory development, continued high heavy metal concentrations, infectious overgrowth and/or poor sleep patterns create an environment of IGF-1 depletion. Decreased IGF-1 activity appears to trigger continual activations of neurotropic (nerve infecting) viral agents cause fluctuating and frequent inflammation in the sensory organs or their nerves. This inflammation creates a fluctuating function or delivery or sensory information and relative conflict for the brain. The variability in the sensory system function does not allow the brain to integrate the different sensory systems and leads to a dynamic and confusing clinical state.

I hope that paragraph wasn't too confusing. Here it is broke down in english. The elevated metals in the blood causes a viral infection, such as herpes family virus that lives in our body dormate until something triggers it. Much like the way we get chicken pox. The herpes virus attacks the myelin layer, which covers the nerves in our body. This causes hyperstimulation of the nerves.

We get these metals in our body from immunizations, the water we drink and from the pollution around us. The most common form is from immunizations. Children with Autism carry a gene that when affected by heavy metals in the blood triggers Autism, in theory. The most common metal that is a preservative in MMR shots is mercury. The metals in our water come from the years of oil drilling, landfills and other ground pollution.

I personally think that is how my son got the metals in his body. I drank water from a well that was polluted (sp?) from oil drilling and a landfill around the area where we lived while I was pregnant with my son. I also nursed my son while we lived there, so it went through my breast milk. On top of all of this he had all of his shots filled with mercury.My son began to change after he turned 12 months old. Most children are affected between birth to 36 months old when their senses are developing.

I hope that I haven't confused you. Here is the phone number for the Neuro-Sensory Center of Austin, (512) 338-9840. They can send you an information packet if you call and request it. Sorry that the web site wasn't up, I hadn't checked it out yet since we were going to see Dr. .

Thanks & God Bless, Donna__________________________________________________

March 30, 2005

In a message dated 3/30/2005 5:16:20 P.M. Central Standard Time, donnamabes@... writes:

Here is some of the information from the paperwork that I received from Dr. 's office.

NECA's clinical methods are based on a clinical model that assumes that elevated heavy metal titers or viral overload initially interrupted sensory organ development or sensory nerve myelination. Following the inital interruption in sensory development, continued high heavy metal concentrations, infectious overgrowth and/or poor sleep patterns create an environment of IGF-1 depletion. Decreased IGF-1 activity appears to trigger continual activations of neurotropic (nerve infecting) viral agents cause fluctuating and frequent inflammation in the sensory organs or their nerves. This inflammation creates a fluctuating function or delivery or sensory information and relative conflict for the brain. The variability in the sensory system function does not allow the brain to integrate the different sensory systems and leads to a dynamic and confusing clinical state.

I hope that paragraph wasn't too confusing. Here it is broke down in english. The elevated metals in the blood causes a viral infection, such as herpes family virus that lives in our body dormate until something triggers it. Much like the way we get chicken pox. The herpes virus attacks the myelin layer, which covers the nerves in our body. This causes hyperstimulation of the nerves.

We get these metals in our body from immunizations, the water we drink and from the pollution around us. The most common form is from immunizations. Children with Autism carry a gene that when affected by heavy metals in the blood triggers Autism, in theory. The most common metal that is a preservative in MMR shots is mercury. The metals in our water come from the years of oil drilling, landfills and other ground pollution.

I personally think that is how my son got the metals in his body. I drank water from a well that was polluted (sp?) from oil drilling and a landfill around the area where we lived while I was pregnant with my son. I also nursed my son while we lived there, so it went through my breast milk. On top of all of this he had all of his shots filled with mercury.My son began to change after he turned 12 months old. Most children are affected between birth to 36 months old when their senses are developing.

I hope that I haven't confused you. Here is the phone number for the Neuro-Sensory Center of Austin, (512) 338-9840. They can send you an information packet if you call and request it. Sorry that the web site wasn't up, I hadn't checked it out yet since we were going to see Dr. .

Thanks & God Bless, Donna

Donna, do you have the exact link? My browser can't find it. Keep getting national Electricians and some toy distributor.

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March 31, 2005

Do you think these metals also pertain to lead?? I always had an inkling about this after my son had a seizure when he was about 7. His seizures only lasted for a few years then went away, but I always remember I had caught him a few times chewing on his mini blinds in his bedroom. Those were said to have lead in them years ago, until they changed it. I never had him tested for lead poisoning at the time because it never occured to me that it could be this. Years later it came into my mind that it is possible. I know lead poisoning can cause brain and neurological disorders. Now of course he has the AS. I wonder if lead can stay in the system or if it eventually the body cleanses itself of it? Does anybody know about this? Is there also lead in immunizations?? The area we actually lived in was considered a high lead area, someone told me that, why that was I don't know, maybe the

water? Any info would help!! Donna Mabes <donnamabes@...> wrote:

Here is some of the information from the paperwork that I received from Dr. 's office.

NECA's clinical methods are based on a clinical model that assumes that elevated heavy metal titers or viral overload initially interrupted sensory organ development or sensory nerve myelination. Following the inital interruption in sensory development, continued high heavy metal concentrations, infectious overgrowth and/or poor sleep patterns create an environment of IGF-1 depletion. Decreased IGF-1 activity appears to trigger continual activations of neurotropic (nerve infecting) viral agents cause fluctuating and frequent inflammation in the sensory organs or their nerves. This inflammation creates a fluctuating function or delivery or sensory information and relative conflict for the brain. The variability in the sensory system function does not allow the brain to integrate the different sensory systems and leads to a dynamic and confusing clinical state.

I hope that paragraph wasn't too confusing. Here it is broke down in english. The elevated metals in the blood causes a viral infection, such as herpes family virus that lives in our body dormate until something triggers it. Much like the way we get chicken pox. The herpes virus attacks the myelin layer, which covers the nerves in our body. This causes hyperstimulation of the nerves.

We get these metals in our body from immunizations, the water we drink and from the pollution around us. The most common form is from immunizations. Children with Autism carry a gene that when affected by heavy metals in the blood triggers Autism, in theory. The most common metal that is a preservative in MMR shots is mercury. The metals in our water come from the years of oil drilling, landfills and other ground pollution.

I personally think that is how my son got the metals in his body. I drank water from a well that was polluted (sp?) from oil drilling and a landfill around the area where we lived while I was pregnant with my son. I also nursed my son while we lived there, so it went through my breast milk. On top of all of this he had all of his shots filled with mercury.My son began to change after he turned 12 months old. Most children are affected between birth to 36 months old when their senses are developing.

I hope that I haven't confused you. Here is the phone number for the Neuro-Sensory Center of Austin, (512) 338-9840. They can send you an information packet if you call and request it. Sorry that the web site wasn't up, I hadn't checked it out yet since we were going to see Dr. .

Thanks & God Bless, Donna

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March 31, 2005

I would think Lead is considered a heavy metal. I am pretty sure it stays in your system without chelating of some sort....I think it is worth getting a lead test from what you have mentioned!

-Charlotte

Re: New treatment

Do you think these metals also pertain to lead?? I always had an inkling about this after my son had a seizure when he was about 7. His seizures only lasted for a few years then went away, but I always remember I had caught him a few times chewing on his mini blinds in his bedroom. Those were said to have lead in them years ago, until they changed it. I never had him tested for lead poisoning at the time because it never occured to me that it could be this. Years later it came into my mind that it is possible. I know lead poisoning can cause brain and neurological disorders. Now of course he has the AS. I wonder if lead can stay in the system or if it eventually the body cleanses itself of it? Does anybody know about this? Is there also lead in immunizations?? The area we actually lived in was considered a high lead area, someone told me that, why that was I don't know, maybe the water? Any info would help!! Donna Mabes <donnamabes@...> wrote:

Here is some of the information from the paperwork that I received from Dr. 's office.

NECA's clinical methods are based on a clinical model that assumes that elevated heavy metal titers or viral overload initially interrupted sensory organ development or sensory nerve myelination. Following the inital interruption in sensory development, continued high heavy metal concentrations, infectious overgrowth and/or poor sleep patterns create an environment of IGF-1 depletion. Decreased IGF-1 activity appears to trigger continual activations of neurotropic (nerve infecting) viral agents cause fluctuating and frequent inflammation in the sensory organs or their nerves. This inflammation creates a fluctuating function or delivery or sensory information and relative conflict for the brain. The variability in the sensory system function does not allow the brain to integrate the different sensory systems and leads to a dynamic and confusing clinical state.

I hope that paragraph wasn't too confusing. Here it is broke down in english. The elevated metals in the blood causes a viral infection, such as herpes family virus that lives in our body dormate until something triggers it. Much like the way we get chicken pox. The herpes virus attacks the myelin layer, which covers the nerves in our body. This causes hyperstimulation of the nerves.

We get these metals in our body from immunizations, the water we drink and from the pollution around us. The most common form is from immunizations. Children with Autism carry a gene that when affected by heavy metals in the blood triggers Autism, in theory. The most common metal that is a preservative in MMR shots is mercury. The metals in our water come from the years of oil drilling, landfills and other ground pollution.

I personally think that is how my son got the metals in his body. I drank water from a well that was polluted (sp?) from oil drilling and a landfill around the area where we lived while I was pregnant with my son. I also nursed my son while we lived there, so it went through my breast milk. On top of all of this he had all of his shots filled with mercury.My son began to change after he turned 12 months old. Most children are affected between birth to 36 months old when their senses are developing.

I hope that I haven't confused you. Here is the phone number for the Neuro-Sensory Center of Austin, (512) 338-9840. They can send you an information packet if you call and request it. Sorry that the web site wasn't up, I hadn't checked it out yet since we were going to see Dr. .

Thanks & God Bless, Donna

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March 31, 2005

Thanks Charolette! I definately will! I will let everyone know what the results were. designs <scottdesigns@...> wrote: