Re: biopsy and liver enzymes -

[Guest guest]

Just a little input here. ALT/AST can also be

raised because of other reasons such as

gallbladder issues or Pancreatitis. Best to get a

full work up on all before coming to the automatic conclusion of liver damage.

At 10:23 AM 12/11/2010, you wrote:

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>Hi

>I am not a medical professional, but some things

>sound very wrong with this picture.

>Your diet [alternative] protocal sounds fine,

>but we all know that there is no alt way to cure HCV.

>All we can really do with a alt protocal is hope

>to slow down the HCV, and liver damage.

>The - 'time' thing wont cure the HCV, either.

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>Your new specialist recommended treatment - your

>reasons for declining dont make sence to me.

>If you dont trust Kaiser, go outside the system and get an independent DX.

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>Your ALT/AST/enzymes show that liver damage 'is' occuring.

>You know that it is anyways because HCV causes liver damage.

>The longer you let it go on, the more damage is being done. - common sence -

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>No one can decide for you what you should do.

>But if I were in your shoes - I would get

>another biopsy, new labs, and listen to what my

>doctor recommended from the results.

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>FEAR should not be a factor when deciding ones pathway to healing.

>Treatment isnt fun, but neither is a liver transplant or worse.

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>love

>don in ks

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>From: Gach <gary.gach@...>

>Subject: [ ] biopsy and liver enzymes and ... ?

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>Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 8:01 AM

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>I've been following a routine of exercise,

>meditation, Dr. Buhner's herbal protocol,

>chinese herbs (which i decoct), diet (no red

>meat, no fried foods, only whole grains, etc), no alcohol, etc., quite happily

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>Now I have been assigned a new specialist (at

>Kaiser). My previous specialist was of a mind

>that due to my stable low enzymes & good biopsy

>results, the " tincture of time " was best (no

>treatment). My viral load has been high, and

>I've had Hep-C for about 40 years; am a male. 1a or 1b genotype.

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>New specialist recommended treatment. I declined, for reasons above.

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>Now (after 10 years of testing, 2ce a year) my

>enzymes are elevated. ALT had been 40-50; last

>year shot up to 149, then 117 in summer, now 187

>(that's 3 times the highest normal limit). AST

>had been in 40s, then 93, 87, now 150 (3 or 4 times highest normal).

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>This doesn't reveal what a biopsy (the gold

>standard) would. Normally I'm due for a biopsy

>(every five years). The new specialist says

>every 8 years would be better (and feels they're

>risky, so don't know if he's experienced at them or not)

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>The two questions that come to mind:

>should I have a biopsy from a doctor now, outside the Kaiser system?

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>how do I respond to the enzyme results?

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