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Dear Betsy: Food and water can't get down and throwing up is so easy because

it's a " mechanical " problem. The food reaches a certain point just fine but

gets stopped by the muscles so it comes up because it has no place to go.

Elena

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Betsy, before my dilatation by the time I had swallowed a few

bite the food came right back. Very easy, no nausea, just up

it came.

Since my dilatation, the food seems to be stuck. It is like it

is half way in and will not go either way. I sometimes find

myself wishing I had not had it for that reason. Oh I swallow

a lot better than I did before and keep more down, but the

times it will not go either way is so frustrating. I have wondered

if others had the same sensations.

I thought I had answered the survey questions when it first went

around last year, but I can't find it so I will post that again.

Magg

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Betsy, I may be wrong but what I believe is this, the

esophogas " knows " that it should not be holding food,

therefore after a period of time, for me its usually

within a minute after a swallow a bite, it seems to

kick into reverse! to get it out! For me the

esophogas nerve at the top of the stomach has a mind

of its own and if it wont open when it should I have

to assume that at times it doesnt close when it should

so I get the reflux and " attacks " when I least expect

it...these are just my thoughts. Cathey

--- brgrusin <brgrusin@...> wrote:

> Does anyone know why we are able to throw UP so well

> (I regularly

> have a hard time keeping food/liquid down) yet

> getting food DOWN the

> esophagus/into the stomach is such a problem?

> -Betsy

>

>

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Magg, The sticking feeling is my worst symptom also. Liquids and

solids all stick. I am not vomiting as much now, but I still choke.

Sometimes when I am not even eating or drinking. Connie

> Betsy, before my dilatation by the time I had swallowed a few

> bite the food came right back. Very easy, no nausea, just up

> it came.

>

> Since my dilatation, the food seems to be stuck. It is like it

> is half way in and will not go either way. I sometimes find

> myself wishing I had not had it for that reason. Oh I swallow

> a lot better than I did before and keep more down, but the

> times it will not go either way is so frustrating. I have wondered

> if others had the same sensations.

>

> I thought I had answered the survey questions when it first went

> around last year, but I can't find it so I will post that again.

>

> Magg

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Hi Betsy

I always think of it like a drain with the plug at the bottom and if

the plug won't open what's going down has to go somewhere and it

comes back up. As much as I hate it it is distinctly different from

nausea when you are sick and throwing up is painful. With achalasia

it just kind of slides back out. This is hard for others to

understand. I can throw up, go back and eat some more and sometimes

if I throw up a couple of times it seems to relax things and I can

then eat comfortably for a bit. I was at a friends last night and

had to excuse myself from the table and when I came back she had

thrown out my plate and put away the rest of the food to help me by

trying not to trigger more throwing up! Liz

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, when you get the attacks as I do when you least expect it, what do you do for them to make the pain stop? I'm taking pain killers, and as soon as the liquid arginine arrives I'll try that.

Cathey Hartwig <catorjon@...> wrote: Betsy, I may be wrong but what I believe is this, theesophogas "knows" that it should not be holding food,therefore after a period of time, for me its usuallywithin a minute after a swallow a bite, it seems tokick into reverse! to get it out! For me theesophogas nerve at the top of the stomach has a mindof its own and if it wont open when it should I haveto assume that at times it doesnt close when it shouldso I get the reflux and "attacks" when I least expectit...these are just my thoughts. Cathey--- brgrusin <brgrusin@...> wrote:> Does anyone know why we are able to throw UP so well> (I regularly> have a hard time keeping food/liquid down) yet> getting food DOWN the > esophagus/into the stomach is such a problem? > -Betsy> > __________________________________________________

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, When I am in bed and it wakes me, I chug

Mylanta. I keep it at my bed side because Ive learned

that I dont seem to make it to the bathroom before I

end up in a ball on the floor. I drink it right from

the bottle. Most times it works but not always.

Thats my problem is that I dont know for sure if Im

having a spasm or reflux. When I see commercials and

they show someone sitting there rubbing there chest in

bed or at the docs because they are uncomfortable do

to there heartburn, I think ok that isnt me cause I

cant even speak. When I dont have anything around and

I just have to go down I lay there sweating and

panting and its like a persons hand is just squeezing

as hard as they can and the burning pain is from

armpit to armpit and my chin to my waist. When it

goes away which is usually around 10 min or so, it is

as if the hand just let go...that fast...Im still wet

with sweat and I sit up and say to my husband while I

actually laugh... " wow " that was a doozie! Because of

the way it goes away so sudden Im starting to think

its a spasm. Its interesting to me how different our

symptoms are and the way we describe them. I would

never say that I feel like Im choking. Nothing

happens in my throat. It is in my chest. The food or

the bite I have just swallowed is stuck in the middle

of my chest and I can feel it move when it does go.

Even milk being cold when I swallow and it sits there

I wait and you can feel the cold leave. This is why

pop brings me to my knees, when you were a kid did you

ever sit with your siblings and see who could keep the

burning pop like vernors WOW in there mouth the

longest and not swallow it? We maybe my sisters and I

needed to get a life, but hey my mother was working

and we only had each other to entertain! (Oops thats

an issue for another group lol) Well anyway, thats

what it feels like in my esophogas! I only have the

" attacks " maybe 2 times a month and I dont take

anything to help it but the over the counter stuff. I

am in Michigan and I had all of my work done at the U

of M but I am interested in the man that went to

Harper Hospital because that is alot more local and if

he had his surgery done there I would like to hear all

about it. Makes it alot more tempting! Thank you for

asking me about the pain and Im sorry if you got way

more info then you were asking for..I talk alot even

in print! Chatty Cathey!

--- Dahlquist <sageaboo@...> wrote:

>

> , when you get the attacks as I do when you

> least expect it, what do you do for them to make the

> pain stop? I'm taking pain killers, and as soon as

> the liquid arginine arrives I'll try that.

> Cathey Hartwig <catorjon@...> wrote: Betsy,

> I may be wrong but what I believe is this, the

> esophogas " knows " that it should not be holding

> food,

> therefore after a period of time, for me its usually

> within a minute after a swallow a bite, it seems to

> kick into reverse! to get it out! For me the

> esophogas nerve at the top of the stomach has a mind

> of its own and if it wont open when it should I have

> to assume that at times it doesnt close when it

> should

> so I get the reflux and " attacks " when I least

> expect

> it...these are just my thoughts. Cathey

> --- brgrusin <brgrusin@...> wrote:

> > Does anyone know why we are able to throw UP so

> well

> > (I regularly

> > have a hard time keeping food/liquid down) yet

> > getting food DOWN the

> > esophagus/into the stomach is such a problem?

> > -Betsy

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Cathey,

Bravo! Bravo! Excellent description of a spasm!!! Cudos! I love

how some of us can describe what we all go through over and over with

fresh words....your description of sitting up in bed laughing at the end

of your spasm telling your husband, " WOW, that was a DOOZIE! " ties for

me with the Beatle chord spasm description. Armpit to armpit, chin to

waist is NOT reflux...that's a spasm!!! I know the feeling of relief

when it's over. I don't think I've ever laughed, but I'll try it!

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Thank you very much for letting me know, its so

difficult to get it across to some docs what it feels

like! I've learned to be very discriptive, out of

need! I made the mistake once of saying " I have pain

in my chest " , and I went home with the bottle of pills

I was given only to find that I wasnt really tired,

but I couldnt keep my eyes open... I took my pulse and

it was in the 50's...I called my regular doc and he

said stop right away. I already take something for my

BP and this " other doc " being, well should we say,

umm, not having been born in America ;) ASSUMED I was

having heart pain....Needless to say Ive gotten to the

point of saying things like " curled up " " panting "

and you would have to " drag me across the driveway "

to get me to the hospital! Well, " if I didnt laugh

I'd cry " , " the glass is half full " blah, blah, blah!

LOL! Cathey

--- lindwood@... wrote:

> Cathey,

> Bravo! Bravo! Excellent description of a

> spasm!!! Cudos! I love

> how some of us can describe what we all go through

> over and over with

> fresh words....your description of sitting up in bed

> laughing at the end

> of your spasm telling your husband, " WOW, that was a

> DOOZIE! " ties for

> me with the Beatle chord spasm description. Armpit

> to armpit, chin to

> waist is NOT reflux...that's a spasm!!! I know the

> feeling of relief

> when it's over. I don't think I've ever laughed,

> but I'll try it!

>

>

>

>

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To whomever asked about the ease of throwing up with Achalasia, see

's response below. For me, it was exactly as states. It may

not be the same for others.

However, if I were sick with the stomach flu (feeling ill), for example,

it wasn't a pretty sight (coming from the stomach.) I would definately

throw up from the stomach. A lot of wretching to get it up! Oh Yuck! So

gross! Makes me sick to think about it!

With achalasia, I threw up partial meals and liquids frequently and

easily without feeling ill, but it was esophagus contents not stomach

contents. It was food that couldn't make it to my stomach that came up.

(Not that much prettier than flu vomiting, but not as traumatizing. I

think!)

PAM

lindwood@... wrote:

>

> you can throw up well because you are throwing up what is above the

> sphincter, not from the stomach.

>

>

>

>

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I also ,find I throw up food easier then if having the flu.it is always food

that never made it to stomach also.I guess what I would have to say is the

food is not at all digested when it comes back up, it is as it is when I eat

it.

what a gross thing to be talking about eh ?

Diane

To whomever asked about the ease of throwing up with Achalasia, see

's response below. For me, it was exactly as states. It may

not be the same for others.

However, if I were sick with the stomach flu (feeling ill), for example,

it wasn't a pretty sight (coming from the stomach.) I would definately

throw up from the stomach. A lot of wretching to get it up! Oh Yuck! So

gross! Makes me sick to think about it!

With achalasia, I threw up partial meals and liquids frequently and

easily without feeling ill, but it was esophagus contents not stomach

contents. It was food that couldn't make it to my stomach that came up.

(Not that much prettier than flu vomiting, but not as traumatizing. I

think!)

PAM

lindwood@... wrote:

>

> you can throw up well because you are throwing up what is above the

> sphincter, not from the stomach.

>

>

>

>

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Pam,

My name is Cheryl Cini and I haven't written in quite

some time, I'm think I am one of early newcomers to

the group. After reading this post I had to respond.

I agree, and I think I may have already posted about

throwing up. I have found through experience that

throwing up is virtually impossible for me. that is,

if the food has pasted into the stomach. I had a bad

experience after eating out, when returning home I

found myself in the bathroom trying to vomit, I

couldn't and what an ugly site. Very painful and

scary too. And, I will ask this question again. Has

anyone else experienced this? Also, during my

C-section in 1999, before my myotomy, the doc gave me

compazine to relieve the nausea feelings, I was so

afraid the episode would recur while I was on the

table, I panicked and they quickly understood my

dilemma, so, if anyone has these experiences mention

compazine and it will settle your stomach.

Well, for not writing in a long long time, I have alot

to say don't I!! Welcome to everyone who has joined

in the past year. And, for some history on myself, I

had my mytomy in Octobr 1999 and went through a

pregnacy with achalasia untreated. I am doing

wonderful and sometimes get spasms which are painful.

I am from outside Phila. Had my surgery and

Pensylvania Hosp. and my GI Doc is from Temple Univ.

Hosp.

Nice to be back. I am raising 2 and 4 year old boys,

so, I do get very sidetracked.

Cheryl

--- Thresher <kpdthresher@...> wrote:

> To whomever asked about the ease of throwing up with

> Achalasia, see

> 's response below. For me, it was exactly as

> states. It may

> not be the same for others.

>

> However, if I were sick with the stomach flu

> (feeling ill), for example,

> it wasn't a pretty sight (coming from the stomach.)

> I would definately

> throw up from the stomach. A lot of wretching to get

> it up! Oh Yuck! So

> gross! Makes me sick to think about it!

>

> With achalasia, I threw up partial meals and liquids

> frequently and

> easily without feeling ill, but it was esophagus

> contents not stomach

> contents. It was food that couldn't make it to my

> stomach that came up.

> (Not that much prettier than flu vomiting, but not

> as traumatizing. I

> think!)

> PAM

>

>

>

>

> lindwood@... wrote:

> >

> > you can throw up well because you are throwing up

> what is above the

> > sphincter, not from the stomach.

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Cheryl,

I think what you describe about not being able to throw up from the stomach

is pretty typical with Achalasians.

It was certainly my experience. I recall having what used to be referred to

as the stomach flu where you vomited several times, I was never able to, but

at least I didn't have to get out of bed when the urge came.

I also found that when I went through the and the terrible retching the

nausea subsided, even though nothing came up.

Ed

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> Pam,

>

> My name is Cheryl Cini and I haven't written in quite

> some time, I'm think I am one of early newcomers to

> the group. After reading this post I had to respond.

>

> I agree, and I think I may have already posted about

> throwing up. I have found through experience that

> throwing up is virtually impossible for me. that is,

> if the food has pasted into the stomach. I had a bad

> experience after eating out, when returning home I

> found myself in the bathroom trying to vomit, I

> couldn't and what an ugly site. Very painful and

> scary too. And, I will ask this question again. Has

> anyone else experienced this? Also, during my

> C-section in 1999, before my myotomy, the doc gave me

> compazine to relieve the nausea feelings, I was so

> afraid the episode would recur while I was on the

> table, I panicked and they quickly understood my

> dilemma, so, if anyone has these experiences mention

> compazine and it will settle your stomach.

>

> Well, for not writing in a long long time, I have alot

> to say don't I!! Welcome to everyone who has joined

> in the past year. And, for some history on myself, I

> had my mytomy in Octobr 1999 and went through a

> pregnacy with achalasia untreated. I am doing

> wonderful and sometimes get spasms which are painful.

> I am from outside Phila. Had my surgery and

> Pensylvania Hosp. and my GI Doc is from Temple Univ.

> Hosp.

>

> Nice to be back. I am raising 2 and 4 year old boys,

> so, I do get very sidetracked.

>

> Cheryl

>

> --- Thresher <kpdthresher@...> wrote:

> > To whomever asked about the ease of throwing up with

> > Achalasia, see

> > 's response below. For me, it was exactly as

> > states. It may

> > not be the same for others.

> >

> > However, if I were sick with the stomach flu

> > (feeling ill), for example,

> > it wasn't a pretty sight (coming from the stomach.)

> > I would definately

> > throw up from the stomach. A lot of wretching to get

> > it up! Oh Yuck! So

> > gross! Makes me sick to think about it!

> >

> > With achalasia, I threw up partial meals and liquids

> > frequently and

> > easily without feeling ill, but it was esophagus

> > contents not stomach

> > contents. It was food that couldn't make it to my

> > stomach that came up.

> > (Not that much prettier than flu vomiting, but not

> > as traumatizing. I

> > think!)

> > PAM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > lindwood@... wrote:

> > >

> > > you can throw up well because you are throwing up

> > what is above the

> > > sphincter, not from the stomach.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> >

>

> > Hi Lori

> My name is Sherry from Ohio.I am nurse also.I've had " A " for

15

> yrs dx right after nursing school.I throw up everyday.Solids are

the

> worst but I have trouble with liquids at times.Lately I've been

> having more problems so I've been using a food processer for alot

of

> my food which helps most of the time.It's hard to eat when you are

> working because it takes so long to swallow.I have thrown up stuff

> that I ate 1-2 days before.I know sounds gross.

> >

Hi Sherry, Do you work on a floor of the hospital? It seems nurses

usually end up eating whenever they can--I eat too fast sometimes

anyway. I don't have to worry about throwing up and food staying

around so long. Do some things go around what's sitting there? I

can't imagine taking care of patients and having food sitting in my

esophagus or doing anything for that matter. I don't seem to have as

many problems as so many do, but I cannot function until everything

goes down, especially when " stuck " -causing tightness/SOB. Do you

have pain also? Lori

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I don't have it as bad as others in here. I don't throw up

easily...now things get stuck and I have to wait for it to go down or

I'll start coughing and it comes back up...reminds me of the movie

The Exorcist. This isn't an everyday thing either...some meals I

don't have a problem. I know that if I eat something or snack before

a meal I have a harder time. I do burp alot...liquids are kind to

me. Guess that's why I can't seem to eat watermelon. I do get the

pain that goes up to my jaw. But if I drink or gulp water fast it

stops. Almost feels more like terrible gas pains in my chest. It

seems this disease does its own thing with it wants and it controls

me more than I control it.

Jan in KY

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Hi - I had my gallbladder removed many years ago at the age of

24. I suffered pain and spasms all through my first pregnancy and the

doctor said it was probably gas. But the spasms continued after the birth of

the baby... Long story short - six months later I had to have my

gallbladder removed - open surgery. Fast forward over 40 years and I

started having spasms again. I thought very similiar to the gall bladder

attacks. I was soon diagnosed with achalasia and had the myotomy and the

dor funduplication six years ago. Now my spasms are very light if I do have

one..... and few and far between.

My doctor told me I would not be able to vomit also as the sphincster

pushing food down as well as up has been cut. Our food goes down by gravity

now. However I did have one incident a couple of years ago where I did have

a horrible stomach ache and all of a sudden I did vomit! That was a shock!

Somehow nature did take care of it after all. Generally speaking though I am

not able to vomit.

I do agree the spasms related to achalasia and gall-bladder are very

similiar and most often it is diagnosed as gall-bladder - because achalasia

is such an oddity. I think there are several people on this site who have

had both surgeries..Is that coincidental and are they somehow related?

I hope now that you have had your gall-bladder out you will soon be

feeling better. All the best................., Vancouver BC Canada

Throwing up

> OK - here's my 2 cents and experience for what it's worth.

> I had a hellers in 1989 (phew- the dark ages!!) for the first year or

> two, I couldn't vomit at all. Now I can - I don't know if it's time,

> maybe it changed after my one post-op dilation or what. It's not at

> all easy - hurts like hell actually. But I can.

>

> On another note, for any who may be interested...

> I had my gallbladder removed back in July, so it's been about 4

> months now and wow!! What I thought were spasms for many years were

> really gallbladder attacks.

> I used to read about people who were going to work and functioning

> through their spasms and I couldn't believe it. Mine were so terribly

> painful and very often accompanied by vomiting. Well, that was wrong

> too apparently. I've had a few spasms since surgery but for the most

> part have been able to function through them. Still not fun but -

> mother of god!- so very different. And now with the NuLev, I can get

> through my day (cue angels singing!)

> I guess my point here is that this is a type of pain that could so be

> mis-interpreted. I'm sorry I can't further define the difference in

> attacks for you all so that you'd know which was which. I even

> theorize that maybe my gall attacks were triggering spasms or vice

> versa. Even getting an ultrasound for stones is not difinitive

> because something like (Notan -help us out here) 30-40% of all adults

> have stones with no symptoms. The surgeon wasn't convinced that my GB

> needed to be removed - other than my very extensive family hx of GB

> disease- but then found that it showed signs of chronic inflammation

> (little bugger definately needed to go)

> So here's a question - anyone else here have their GB removed AFTER

> surgery and/or the onset of A - and - what were the changes in your

> sypmtoms??

> Not sure how much that will help but always looking to all the

> different angles.

>

> happy Swallowing!

> in Va.

>

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wrote:

.... What I thought were spasms for many years were really gallbladder attacks. ...

You bring up a good point. Just because we have spasms does not mean

that all our pains are achalasia related. One problem with finding

stones is that, as you pointed out, people can have them and not have

pain or other complications from them. The incident rates depend a lot

on the country and culture you live in. The people I know that have had

their gallbladders removed felt much better after it. More so than just

not having the pain.

notan

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throwing up

> I had my banding on June 22, 2006. I have lost 92 lbs.

Wow. Did you start out very high in weight, maybe 400 pounds or something?

What did you start at? That is MUCH faster than recommended or normal.

I'm very

> happy, but I am still throwing up very often. One day I'm fine and

> the next I will throw up the same thing that I ate yesterday.

If you're throwing up you're either eating too much, eating too fast, or not

chewing enough. Also, if you're like many of us, you'll be tighter in the

morning and looser at night.

Another

> day, may throw up every meal that I eat. Sometimes, i just spit up

> slimey stuff, but there are times when I throw it all up.

This is BAD for your band and your stomach. CUT IT OUT. Yeah, know it isn't

that easy, but....

1. Take VERY small bites.

2. Chew each bite AT LEAST twenty times.

3. When you have the very slightest feeling of something stuck, or of starting

to slime (runny nose, lots of saliva in mouth, sneezing, etc.) QUIT EATING.

4. If you barf or slime, YOU'RE DONE FOR THAT MEAL. EVEN IF IT WAS FIRST BITE.

After well over 3 years I still struggle with those things once in a while.

But...I had sixty years to practice bad habits, too. No, not making excuses, it

is still UP TO ME as to what I put in my mouth.

I never

> taste or see any bile from my stomach. I talked to the doctor's office

> a couple months ago and we decided that it was the way was eating

> (still a fat person wanting to eat.)

No, won't see bile from stomach since all of it is coming from your pouch and

esophagus. Doing this repeatedly can cause the band to slip, can stretch the

pouch, or even the esophagus.

My problem is that I live in

> Tulsa and my doctor is in Dallas. Is this just normal for some

> people?

It isn't normal, other than the fact that many of us struggle with decades of

bad habits. And they're VERY hard to overcome, but you can do it. Just

remember that the band is a tool and to make it work right you have to follow

the directions. Not following the directions is as dangerous as using a power

tool without eye protection.

Where the doc is doesn't matter, as HE isn't putting the stuff in your mouth.

Many of us have docs that are a thousand or more miles away, in Mexico or

Europe.

> Or is it still just a fat person's eating habits?

Yes. And you HAVE TO get past this, really, or you'll lose your band, still

have bad habits, and then be right back where you started, or worse.

I feel

> great. My primary care physician keeps a close watch on my blood work

> and everything is OK except my thyroid, but I've had a low thyroid for

> 26 years.

Have you found things you just can't eat? If so, don't eat them. After a

couple of tries, following the rules of bites and chewing, then don't try again.

Remember, insanity is trying the same thing over and over and expecting

different results each time. I can assure you that I'll NEVER have another

Mickeydees biscuit. Took me three times to finally accept that they will always

get stuck. Of course what some can eat, others can't.

Hang in there....you can make it.

dan

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I was banded on December 27, 2006, and have lost 60 lbs. I still do exactly

what you describe, except that most of what I throw up is the slimey stuff. I

even had sinus surgery to try to eliminate the drainage, but it's still there

(also there's less of it now). Anyway, I've just about decided that I must be

one of those people who will always have this problem, and am trying to learn to

live with it. It's a problem, however, when trying to have meals out with

friends, and especially new guys I may be dating. It's embarrassing to make

several trips to the ladies' room during a meal.

I'm not going to ask Dr. Spiegel, because I know he would say I'm too tight or

that it's somehow my fault. I had my fill removed when I had the surgery, and

it's taken several fills to get it back to being restricted, so I don't want to

have any removed. I gained a few pounds during that time, and have lost it

again, so I'm not going there - every again!

keefepa2 <keefepa2@...> wrote:

I had my banding on June 22, 2006. I have lost 92 lbs. I'm very

happy, but I am still throwing up very often. One day I'm fine and

the next I will throw up the same thing that I ate yesterday. Another

day, may throw up every meal that I eat. Sometimes, i just spit up

slimey stuff, but there are times when I throw it all up. I never

taste or see any bile from my stomach. I talked to the doctor's office

a couple months ago and we decided that it was the way was eating

(still a fat person wanting to eat.) My problem is that I live in

Tulsa and my doctor is in Dallas. Is this just normal for some

people? Or is it still just a fat person's eating habits? I feel

great. My primary care physician keeps a close watch on my blood work

and everything is OK except my thyroid, but I've had a low thyroid for

26 years.

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I have to agree. It isnt normal to throw up every meal. You are eating too

fast..not chewing enough and taking too big bites. Its also not normal to lose

an average of 5 lbs a week without bypass surgery. I hope that you are taking

a lot of vitamins and supplements for your nutrition because I cant imagine how

you can be getting enough nutrition in if you are throwing up everything. Think

about it..its basically the same as being bulimic and if it continues for too

long you will damage your body the same as an anorexic or bulimic does. From

what you said you are losing weight through starvation and that is not what the

band is designed for.

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From: " keefepa2 " <keefepa2@...>

> I had my banding on June 22, 2006. I have lost 92 lbs. I'm very

> happy, but I am still throwing up very often. One day I'm fine and

> the next I will throw up the same thing that I ate yesterday. Another

> day, may throw up every meal that I eat. Sometimes, i just spit up

> slimey stuff, but there are times when I throw it all up. I never

> taste or see any bile from my stomach. I talked to the doctor's office

> a couple months ago and we decided that it was the way was eating

> (still a fat person wanting to eat.) My problem is that I live in

> Tulsa and my doctor is in Dallas. Is this just normal for some

> people? Or is it still just a fat person's eating habits? I feel

> great. My primary care physician keeps a close watch on my blood work

> and everything is OK except my thyroid, but I've had a low thyroid for

> 26 years.

>

>

>

>

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> I was banded on December 27, 2006, I'm very

> happy, but I am still throwing up

lol Dont you mean 2005?

What you discribe sounds more like a PB, Its awfull isnt it if you try

and stop your self throwing up the saliva just builds up and up untill

eventually its too heavy to stay down. I had just eaten ones and was

feeling the weight build up and i was driving on the motorway it was

impossable for me to stop infact dangerus. I tried to get to a service

station but i didnt make it and the food and saliva just pumped out of

while i was doing my best to keep control of the car.

I have never heard of any one having surgery to fix it. My problem

right now is constant unbareable heartburn.

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