1st shot

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olympicpl@... wrote:

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> From: olympicpl@...

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> Hi,

> My husband took his first shot 1 1/2 weeks ago. Since then he has had a

> headache, fatigue, tightness in his chest and his left arm feels weak. He

> went to Medical yesterday and was given medicine for his headaches. The

> doctor told him that if he doesn't feel better that they would run test to

> see if it is affecting his liver or kidneys. Is this normal? Can the side

> effects of the vaccine start so soon, after only 1 shot? He has to take the

> 2nd shot on Monday. He is going to refuse. He only has 9 months left in the

> Navy and is very upset that he must ruin his outstanding military record by

> refusing this vaccine, but he values his health more. Please let us know

> of any information that will help us get through this ordeal. Thank you,

>

>

>

Doesn't the Anthrax vaccine insert say something about discontinueing

further shots if there is a serious reaction to the vaccine?

From what I understand, that is usually standard procedure whenever

there is a serious reaction to a vaccine, at least in the civilian

world. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong about that.

From what I understand, the military has been violating this procedure

and forcing people to take follow-up shots despite serious reactions to

earlier Anthrax shots. Your husband should go to a civilian doctor or

maybe a public health clinic where they are experienced at vaccinating

people and get as much documentation as possible to support his case.

Unfortunatly the military's attitude to these reactions, is the typical,

" suck it up and drive on " motto that those of us in the military had

drilled into our heads in bootcamp or basic training.

In my Army Reserve unit I've been ridiculed by a few people (fortunatly

just a few) as being afraid of needles and a wimp for not re-enlisting

because of this vaccine but everyone else is just as scared about the

vaccine. I'm very fortunate to be finishing up my 6yr active reserve

obligation next month just before my unit will be getting the shots and

that I only have 2yrs inactive (god willing they won't call me up). My

unit is scheduled to go to the Middle East early next year so they'll

probably be starting the shots with my unit at the end of this year.

I'm also extremely upset at having to end my career in the reserves as I

was planning on staying with my unit until retirement and I found the

work very fullfilling and a nice break from civilian life. My reserve

unit is like a second family to me and it broke my heart having to tell

everyone I was leaving. I can only imagine the pain your husband has to

endure making such a decision if they don't grant him a waiver because

of his reactions to the shot.

I'll be praying for you and your husband that everything works out ok.

G.

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,

I personally began feeling effects after the first shot, however blamed them

on stress. I can tell you after 4 shots and many medical visits later it has

only gotten worse. I have 14 years of service and am prepared to give that

up if we are unable to somehow persuade them to put a stop to the program.

Speaking from experience, your health is far more important!

Keep the Faith

Robi

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Sherry Lynn,

I hope all goes well for you. I'll keep you in my prayers.

Marilyn

1st shot

Hello Everyone:

Well in 1 1/2 hrs. I go see my gastro nurse so she can show me how

to do my 1st shot. I am scared to death, and have a migraine for 2

days now worrying about the possible side effects. But, I guess the

pro's outweigh the cons for me on this issue. Will let you know later

how it went (hopefully,it won't knock me out).

Hope everyone is feeling pretty good today.

May God Bless you and keep you safe.

Sherry Lynn

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Jeff, my first shot was a doosy too but I got some anti nausea meds and

they really help. I think tylenol would be better than aspirin but I

don't know. Mic

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In a message dated 2/19/03 12:34:21 PM Pacific Standard Time,

phoenixmic@... writes:

> I think tylenol would be better than aspirin but I

> don't know.

The nurses told me to take Tylenol or Ibuprofin, not aspirin.

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Hi Jeff,

I usually take my shot about 8pm at night and then take a couple of Tylenol

PM to help me sleep through the night, and hopefully, sleep through the

worst side effects. I think everyone reacts differently, because I usually

don't get any side effects until 24 hours after my shot (the next night). I

hope your side effects get less as you go along. Keep drinking LOTS of water.

I don't take aspirin because they destroys my blood platelets, and the meds

do that on their own. I'm just ultra sensitive to aspirin.

Anti-inflammatory drugs aren't supposed to be good for your liver.

Unfortunately, I have arthritis, so things like Aleve are the only things

that help my arthritis. Oh, well, I just take my Tylenol - 6 a day is

supposed to be safe I'm told. It doesn't help the inflammation, though.

I can't tell what sides are from the Peg-Intron and which ones are from the

Rebetol. The fever and aches do get less as the week progresses, but the

fatigue seems to stay constant. My headaches come and go all week.

Well, I'm headed for my afternoon nap. I had my 5th shot Monday night, so

this isn't one of my good days.

Good luck with your treatment.

Marie in FL

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Jeff,

My husband had the same reaction you did the first shot, about 5-6 hours

later. Terrible chills, headache, et. and up all night. Now the sides are

less severe.....We stocked up on Tylenol before hand that's the only thing

our Doctor wants him to take......

Kelli

-- 1St Shot

I took my first shot of the new Peg-Intron Alfa-2b Yesterday morning

8Am 02-18-02. My dose is 120ug per .5 ml of Alfa-2b with 1000mg of

Ribavirin,divided into two 200mg pills in the morning and three

200mg pills in the evening. I was fine for 2.5 hours after the shot.

After that I got chills really bad and had to leave work. I stayed in

bed with the chills until 4Pm. At that point I got up to use the

bathroom. I had a killer headache. So I took two aspirin and went

back to bed. The aspirin helped with the chills but not the headache.

During this time I was drinking water, this is suppose to help with

the side effects. I did get up at 7pm to eat some chicken noodle

soup. I took another aspirin at 8pm Then I went to bed at 9pm. The

aspirins never helped with the headache but the chills subsided some.

I a woke a couple of times in the night covered in sweat. I slept all

night, and when I got up this morning I felt better. I still have a

headache but not as near as bad. I have not taken any aspirin yet

today. I took a shower and was feeling OK not 100% but ok. I just

took my morning Ribavirin 30mins ago with my breakfast. I took today

off from work so Im going to laydown for a while. I dont know yet how

my body reacts to the Ribavirin I'm hoping that the side effects are

not as bad as the shot. I will keep you up to date. Jeff

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I have been told that along with Alcohol, Tylonol (sp)? should not be

taken. That was one of the first things doc had told my husband and

myself.

If any pain meds are to be taken, Ibuprofen is the only one safe and

less damaging to the liver. If a stronger pain reliver is needed than

the doctor has been prescribing vicroprofen instead of vicodene.

I have noticed in a few e-mails that alot of people are still using

Tylonol. Is my doctor not giving me the right information?

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My doctor told me just tylenol.

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I was told that you can safely takeup to 6 tylenol a day without hurting

your liver. I was also told not to take anti-inflammatories like ibuprofen.

I wish I could take anti-inflammatories, but it's the only thing that used

to work for my arthritis.

I only take one tylenol at a time, if my fever or aches get too much, and I

take 2 tylenol pm on shot night. So, I stay well within the limits.

This information is just what I've gotten from people who have talked to

their doctors and done their own research. I'm no expert myself.

My doctor did prescribe Darvon for the arthritis in my back, because he said

it was better for my liver than the over-the-counter pain meds. But, I

haven't needed it yet.

Take care,

Marie

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At a conference I recently attended, it was recommended that a person

use what they are used to taking.

Tylenol is bad on the liver- but only if taken in large doses. If its

taken as recommended, its safe to use.

Aspirin and Ibuprofen are hard on the stomach, especially for some.

They also tend to thin the blood.

There may be a reason why the doctor recommended Ibuprofen. Be sure to

ask the doctor lots of questions, including why!

Re: 1St Shot

I have been told that along with Alcohol, Tylonol (sp)? should not be

taken. That was one of the first things doc had told my husband and

myself.

If any pain meds are to be taken, Ibuprofen is the only one safe and

less damaging to the liver. If a stronger pain reliver is needed than

the doctor has been prescribing vicroprofen instead of vicodene.

I have noticed in a few e-mails that alot of people are still using

Tylonol. Is my doctor not giving me the right information?

[Guest guest]

my sides didnt kick in until around week3-4. I could feel the pills after about 4-5 days..You will notice that you cant walk as far and that you are trying to breath deeper. I really notice that since I have upped the riba I am struggleing for air again..besides the headache i am doing ok..hope it doesnt happend every week...I will need to make an appt with my PCP if it does...my sons shouldler has a slight tear in the rotator muscle, so he is out for a few more days, hopefully, and tues i get a esophgial dilitation..oh joy..geri

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Good luck Geri,, my brother used to have to have that done.. Just take it slower when you are short of breath,, you are probably anemic and your hemoglobin is low,, are you taking procrit yet?us4heavenbound@... wrote: my sides didnt kick in until around week3-4. I could feel the pills after about 4-5 days..You will notice that you cant walk as far and that you are trying to breath deeper. I really notice that since I have upped the riba I am struggleing for

air again..besides the headache i am doing ok..hope it doesnt happend every week...I will need to make an appt with my PCP if it does...my sons shouldler has a slight tear in the rotator muscle, so he is out for a few more days, hopefully, and tues i get a esophgial dilitation..oh joy..geri Jackie

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Hi Valarie Yes, Im sure your syringe had meds in it,, lol,, sometimes,, somepeople are just lucky and dont have severe side effects from tx,, I didnt have much other than headaches and a severe increase in body and joint aches.. I think because I had so much in pain before I was even diagnosed that the increase I had after shots just didnt seem so bad.. Im sure you will find that each shot is different too,, sometimes I had more headaches and other times my lower back and butt muscles hurt more.. but thats why my doc gave me pain meds and it was so helpful on those days.. Yes, it can be cumulative and you might find that you will feel worse as time goes along but then again, you might NOT too! From what I have heard and read, most ppl have most of the side effects during the first 6-8 weeks and then it seems to stabilize out and its just the fatigue that gets them... Make sure you get your labs drawn often enough to make sure you

dont have anemia that is not be addressed,, with procrit.. take care and congrats on that first shot! jaxValarie <flap85274@...> wrote: This group is a blessing. I have learned so much since joining. I did as sugested and took my pills with toast and peanut butter and had no problems. Drank lots of water all day long. Last night I took my 1st shot. I did not think I was going to be able to do it at first but I took a deep breath, said a prayer and before I knew it, I was

done. I got some chills a couple hours afterwards but that was it. Now I wonder if the syring really had medicine. Are the meds cummulative and build up? How does the treatment work on getting rid of the virus? I want to thank all of you for yours prayers and support...this group rocks!ValarieJackie

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> Now I wonder if the syring really had medicine. Are the meds cummulative and

> build up? How does the treatment work on getting rid of the virus? I

> want to thank all of you for yours prayers and support...this group

> rocks!

>

> Valarie

>

it's funny you should ask that-I gave myself my second injection (first one on

my own)

yesterday afternoon and as far as I can ascertain-I HAVE NO SIDE EFFECTS!!!!-I

even called

Scherring and spoke to one of the nurse counselors and she reasurred me that I

did

indeed inject myself properly. You and I must be the " lucky " ones. I hope both

of our

good track records continue. What genotype are you? how long are you to be on

the

therapy?

Take care,

Tamara

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Well my first shot went well,

I'm doing them Friday mornings so I can get the 5 kids off to school with no problems on Monday mornings. They bumped the riba up this time and hands have bumps all ready. Outside of a little achey and much less anxiety this time I'm praying things go like last time except I stay undectable!

Got a big handicap toliet for my 12 yr old so all the water drinking isnt a drag. I did learn to pace myself and eat right so my crazy schedule can be done.

Pam

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Good job!  Now, water water water water water and more water.  Take care of yourself, don't push too hard.  Eat when you can.  Rest when you can.  Let us know if you need anything or are ready to jump off a cliff..  I'm good at cliff rescues!

Hugs,Teri

On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 3:12 PM, pam miller <pammango@...> wrote:

 

Well my first shot went well,

I'm doing them Friday mornings so I can get the 5 kids off to school with no problems on Monday mornings. They bumped the riba up this time and hands have bumps all ready. Outside of a little achey and much less anxiety this time I'm praying things go like last time except I stay undectable!

Got a big handicap toliet for my 12 yr old so all the water drinking isnt a drag. I did learn to pace myself and eat right so my crazy schedule can be done.

Pam