Guest guest Posted July 9, 2001 Report Share Posted July 9, 2001 prayers that you get to move in your house soon! Quick Update > Well, it's been almost 3 and a half months. I'm still living in my MIL's house. We were going to rent the house that my husband grew up in, but the renter's have refused to get out. It's been 2 months and a week since we gave 30 days notice. We finally got the keys from the son, who moved all he wanted into the garage and left what he didn't want. Now we gave him 2 weeks to get his stuff out of the garage or it's going in the alley. We have the keys, so it's considered abandoned after that (well, at least we're trying to bluff him that it is). So as soon as we get power we can at least go in and clean and repair damage. > > 's test results came back. The GI said he definately has something going on in there, but he thinks it might just be a wheat allergy. He wants us to put him on the diet (which we did the very next day) going totally gluten free, and then in 6 months challenge with one of the grains, like oats, to see if he tolerates it well. That would open up many more options. Grandma has a pool, and he's learning how to swim. He loves the water. He finally decided using a mask is better for his eyes and less painful over the day. He can only swim underwater, but he can make the whole width and we're working on teaching him how to come up for a breath so he can swim the length. He can do 6 somersaults under water without stopping. No problem with his lungs! His little brother has decided he likes the water too, but he still needs a life jacket. He paddles all over that pool in his little jacket. Jumps off the diving board and slides down the slide, too. At least we're having fun while we're cooped up here. > > Well, like I said, this is a quick update. I have to run to the health food store that's a 30 minute drive away because the house somehow ate a whole (unopened) jar of guar gum and wants bagels (found a great recipe for them!) and banana bread. I really miss you guys, but I lost my password for groups. It SHOULD be only a couple more weeks and we'll be in our house....I'm already decorating in my head.... > > > Loriann > > Wife to Dewight > Mom to , 11 years, Down Syndrome, PDD-NOS, and wheat allergy > And , 2 years and strong-willed > Both homeschooled > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Sign up for ICQmail at http://www.icq.com/icqmail/signup.html > > -------------------------------------------------- > Checkout our homepage for information, bookmarks, and photos of our kids. Share favorite bookmarks, ideas, and other information by including them. Don't forget, messages are a permanent record of the archives for our list. > -------------------------------------------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2001 Report Share Posted July 9, 2001 That's good that their liking the pool while your still there. Good luck on moving to the house. Hope all settles down once you move there. From, __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 In a message dated 7/9/01 6:27:06 AM Pacific Daylight Time, hsmyangels@... writes: << Well, like I said, this is a quick update. I have to run to the health food store that's a 30 minute drive away because the house somehow ate a whole (unopened) jar of guar gum and wants bagels (found a great recipe for them!) and banana bread. I really miss you guys, but I lost my password for groups. It SHOULD be only a couple more weeks and we'll be in our house....I'm already decorating in my head.... Loriann >> Loriann, So good to hear from you! Sounds like things are going well, other than the house. Did you start teaching at Sunday school yet? I can't remember what you said about that. Glad you're back with us! Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 The closings and move went fine on Friday and we had a lot of help unpacking on Saturday, so I was able to take it pretty easy and not risk going into labor at 32 weeks! Not feeling great, but so far holding steady. The house is quite organized all ready thanks to family members. 's got a low-grade temp and I'm thinking that secondary sinus infection is brewing as I predicted from that cold ten days ago. Under her left eye (I don't know the names of the sinuses " yet " ) feels a little bulky, so I figure it's just a matter of days until the meanie greenies come down. Last summer, while we were out of our condo with the mold remediation, caught every germ in every new hotel. So I figure she'll probably have to " acclimate " to the germs in this house as well -- I'm not expecting perfect health for the first couple weeks, you know? I have 302 emails so I guess I'll do the dreaded delete and say I'm sorry I don't know what's going on with all of you. I hope you're all well and the pumpkins are good, too. Take care! (mom to , age 3-1/2. Currently has polysaccharide antibody def, previously had transient IgG, IgA, t-cell & other defs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2002 Report Share Posted November 10, 2002 > OH YA if there was a contest for WORST brides dress she would win. Sounds like it's a wedding that will be remembered and talked about for ages to come! LOL Like you said, at least it's now OVER! Sue in NJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2003 Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 Stacie, Are you seeing a therapist? If not get thee to a therapist soon please. I never thought it was worthwhile, but I realized when I started talking to my son's therapist I was more able to accept this crap and see the good things around me. And it really sounds to me like you may need something to control your fear. That's not weakness, it's not a sin and recognizing it is the first step toward fixing it. My son takes Risperdal for many reasons but fear is one of the big ones. It has really helped him a lot. Perhaps there is a drug that will help you over this bad time too. And in the meantime, you know we are all here to talk to if you need us. You know you can e-mail me privately too if you want. And most of all, you know we are all hoping you feel better soon. Bridget > hi all well this is update tommorow is my dad's one year scd thang and mom > just had another stroke as far as my heart goes echo was not good heart > beats out of controll i cant deal with this life anymore any sujestions? i > have tried and tried i turned to support group after support group i've > tryied to exept it and i cant i cant deal with it i dont want to i'm to > young to i cant sleep i'm scared out of mind i fear everyday and night > the what i called SHOCKING FEAR is overwhelming every second of everyday > i thank about it i cant handle this why fight for pain hurtign and > sufferign why is it really worth it ???? or am i just fightign for nothing > i hurt have sugerys have shocks and fear everythang i used to be able to > controll it somewhat but i cant i dont know what to do > > stacie,19 dont want this life no more is there a return to sender????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2003 Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 Stacie, this Scds is a hell of a horrific animal to deal with. Mentally more so than physically. The fact that you're just 19 makes no difference to SDS, as it does not discriminate when it comes to choosing its victims. They've even linked a gene found in SDS to a similar gene found in SIDS. It is genetic, that has also been evaluated and the findings found to be true. Fear, anxiety, panic and depression are all intertwined with SDS. But just as in the case with the physical side which while incurable is readily treatable so then is the mental issues which seem to be bothering you far more than the physical issue. You most assuredly need mental health counseling and probably they will suggest you go on some form of medication to assist you in dealing with it. I've had SDS since 1991, am on my third ICD, have gone through numerous moderate to high risk procedures in the hope of ridding myself of it and trust me no such procedure exists. Virtually all newcomers and many veterans are afraid of shocks for different reasons. Naturally a newcomer like yourself is afraid it will be a monstrous thing to deal with when it really isn't. The higher the anxiety level you reach only tends to increase your heart rate to the level where you're most likely to get a shock therapy, so chill. They are totally unpredictable and strike without any warning what so ever, but they do strike in response to irregular electric impulses from within the heart that should you not have that ICD might very well take your life. I don't like it all, but I certainly have come to befriend it as it beats the alternative. I have a tremendous zest for life and if an ICD is going to play a major role in my living out that zestful life style bring it on. We can't rid ourselves of the cause but we can adapt and overcome all the mental issues and live a good quality of life. We just have to be strong enough and take advantage of mental health counseling and in time it will become easier. I promise you that. That's a start. I'm sure you have a million questions and you can find a lot of answers to those questions just by joining in some of the support group chat sites. Griff quick update hi all well this is update tommorow is my dad's one year scd thang and momjust had another stroke as far as my heart goes echo was not good heartbeats out of controll i cant deal with this life anymore any sujestions? ihave tried and tried i turned to support group after support group i'vetryied to exept it and i cant i cant deal with it i dont want to i'm toyoung to i cant sleep i'm scared out of mind i fear everyday and nightthe what i called SHOCKING FEAR is overwhelming every second of everydayi thank about it i cant handle this why fight for pain hurtign andsufferign why is it really worth it ???? or am i just fightign for nothingi hurt have sugerys have shocks and fear everythang i used to be able tocontroll it somewhat but i cant i dont know what to dostacie,19 dont want this life no more is there a return to sender?????Please visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2003 Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 i dont have sds okay my dad does i have v-tach a-fib atach av-tach a-flutter i have delated and another type cardiopmypathy vsd asd transvition of great vessal duopble outlet right ventrincal transveistion cornay arteis minny holes and no pulmanary vavles i also have lung probloms brain / possibleity i may be haveing seizers and other health probloms i've been shocked BYE DEFIBRILLATOR ALONE OVER 300 TIMES there is no more they can do to treat my heart nothign this is more then just mental stacie,19 quick update hi all well this is update tommorow is my dad's one year scd thang and momjust had another stroke as far as my heart goes echo was not good heartbeats out of controll i cant deal with this life anymore any sujestions? ihave tried and tried i turned to support group after support group i'vetryied to exept it and i cant i cant deal with it i dont want to i'm toyoung to i cant sleep i'm scared out of mind i fear everyday and nightthe what i called SHOCKING FEAR is overwhelming every second of everydayi thank about it i cant handle this why fight for pain hurtign andsufferign why is it really worth it ???? or am i just fightign for nothingi hurt have sugerys have shocks and fear everythang i used to be able tocontroll it somewhat but i cant i dont know what to dostacie,19 dont want this life no more is there a return to sender?????Please visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2003 Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 oh bye the way i'm 19 had heart probloms since birth and got defibr at 12 stacie,19 quick update hi all well this is update tommorow is my dad's one year scd thang and momjust had another stroke as far as my heart goes echo was not good heartbeats out of controll i cant deal with this life anymore any sujestions? ihave tried and tried i turned to support group after support group i'vetryied to exept it and i cant i cant deal with it i dont want to i'm toyoung to i cant sleep i'm scared out of mind i fear everyday and nightthe what i called SHOCKING FEAR is overwhelming every second of everydayi thank about it i cant handle this why fight for pain hurtign andsufferign why is it really worth it ???? or am i just fightign for nothingi hurt have sugerys have shocks and fear everythang i used to be able tocontroll it somewhat but i cant i dont know what to dostacie,19 dont want this life no more is there a return to sender?????Please visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2003 Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 also i have been a member of this group for a few years sorry to write so minny emails stacie,19 quick update hi all well this is update tommorow is my dad's one year scd thang and momjust had another stroke as far as my heart goes echo was not good heartbeats out of controll i cant deal with this life anymore any sujestions? ihave tried and tried i turned to support group after support group i'vetryied to exept it and i cant i cant deal with it i dont want to i'm toyoung to i cant sleep i'm scared out of mind i fear everyday and nightthe what i called SHOCKING FEAR is overwhelming every second of everydayi thank about it i cant handle this why fight for pain hurtign andsufferign why is it really worth it ???? or am i just fightign for nothingi hurt have sugerys have shocks and fear everythang i used to be able tocontroll it somewhat but i cant i dont know what to dostacie,19 dont want this life no more is there a return to sender?????Please visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2003 Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 Stacie, thanks for responding. I know how rough it can get, regardless of age, I was just trying to help. You seemed extremely upset, and after having made it through just about every problem one can go through, I wanted to try and bolster your strength. Griff quick update hi all well this is update tommorow is my dad's one year scd thang and momjust had another stroke as far as my heart goes echo was not good heartbeats out of controll i cant deal with this life anymore any sujestions? ihave tried and tried i turned to support group after support group i'vetryied to exept it and i cant i cant deal with it i dont want to i'm toyoung to i cant sleep i'm scared out of mind i fear everyday and nightthe what i called SHOCKING FEAR is overwhelming every second of everydayi thank about it i cant handle this why fight for pain hurtign andsufferign why is it really worth it ???? or am i just fightign for nothingi hurt have sugerys have shocks and fear everythang i used to be able tocontroll it somewhat but i cant i dont know what to dostacie,19 dont want this life no more is there a return to sender?????Please visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 thanks griff and all what you said did help i just get down from time to time i used to be a active part of this group but then some people on here made me feel as if i dont belong for that reason i have not posted so i geuss i seem new to most folks here thanks ffor your help though i run a support group of my own that has now conected to my hospital !!!! stacie,19 shocking life for shocking people quick update hi all well this is update tommorow is my dad's one year scd thang and momjust had another stroke as far as my heart goes echo was not good heartbeats out of controll i cant deal with this life anymore any sujestions? ihave tried and tried i turned to support group after support group i'vetryied to exept it and i cant i cant deal with it i dont want to i'm toyoung to i cant sleep i'm scared out of mind i fear everyday and nightthe what i called SHOCKING FEAR is overwhelming every second of everydayi thank about it i cant handle this why fight for pain hurtign andsufferign why is it really worth it ???? or am i just fightign for nothingi hurt have sugerys have shocks and fear everythang i used to be able tocontroll it somewhat but i cant i dont know what to dostacie,19 dont want this life no more is there a return to sender?????Please visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 Stacie, I hope you don't think we are saying this is all mental. Whatwe are saying is that no matter how bad your situation, counselling and anti-depressants can often help you learn to survive and thrive with it. So even though there may be no more to be done physically for you, I still would encourage you to seek counselling. Bridget there is no more they can do to treat my heart nothign this is more then just mental > > stacie,19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 i can get coinsaling okay i can afford it and insurnce will not pay for it okay !!!!!!!!! i know i need it but there has to be a aswner that i can do on my own stacie,19 Re: quick update > Stacie, I hope you don't think we are saying this is all mental. > Whatwe are saying is that no matter how bad your situation, > counselling and anti-depressants can often help you learn to survive > and thrive with it. So even though there may be no more to be done > physically for you, I still would encourage you to seek counselling. > > Bridget > > > > there is no more they can do to treat my heart nothign this is more > then just mental > > > > stacie,19 > > > Please visit the Zapper homepage at > http://www.ZapLife.org > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 Stacie, Dear, we can understand what you are going through, and we are only trying to help. Don't get so defensive. Its obvious you don't like the advice people are giving you, but it is just that, advice, not answers. I hope you find what you are looking for. >From: " rcsejt " <rcsejt@...> >Reply- >< > >Subject: Re: Re: quick update >Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:20:20 -0500 > >i can get coinsaling okay i can afford it and insurnce will not pay for it >okay !!!!!!!!! i know i need it but there has to be a aswner that i can >do on my own > >stacie,19 > Re: quick update > > > > Stacie, I hope you don't think we are saying this is all mental. > > Whatwe are saying is that no matter how bad your situation, > > counselling and anti-depressants can often help you learn to survive > > and thrive with it. So even though there may be no more to be done > > physically for you, I still would encourage you to seek counselling. > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > there is no more they can do to treat my heart nothign this is more > > then just mental > > > > > > stacie,19 > > > > > > Please visit the Zapper homepage at > > http://www.ZapLife.org > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 , I don't think Stacie is as defensive as she sounds. I think it is just her writing style that does that. Stacie, There are lots of things you can do on your own. I posted a list back a piece on here. If you can't find it, let me know and I'll get it for you. In the meantime, know that we are all wishing you well. Bridget > > > there is no more they can do to treat my heart nothign this is more > > > then just mental > > > > > > > > stacie,19 > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Zapper homepage at > > > http://www.ZapLife.org > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2003 Report Share Posted February 21, 2003 Hi ! I know you are trying to help " Stacie, 19 " . But you write to her: " Don't get so defensive. " I wouldn't be " defensive " : I would be angry (not at you nor the group, of course). No. I would be very angry, starting with Stacie's HMO (or other insurance) that does not even offer her counseling! etc Stacie has been attacked medically and emotionally since her age 12! And she doesn't have a very positive outlook: apparently not much hope for healing! I really don't understand where you feel Stacie to be so defensive. (If I understood it, I wouldn't have emailed this). Riccardo (siamodiversi) On Wednesday, Feb 19, 2003, at 12:32 US/Eastern, DeCesari wrote: > Stacie, > > Dear, we can understand what you are going through, and we are only > trying > to help. Don't get so defensive. Its obvious you don't like the > advice > people are giving you, but it is just that, advice, not answers. > > I hope you find what you are looking for. > > > > > >From: " rcsejt " <rcsejt@...> > >Reply- > >< > > >Subject: Re: Re: quick update > >Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:20:20 -0500 > > > >i can get coinsaling okay i can afford it and insurnce will not pay > for it > >okay !!!!!!!!!  i know i need it but there has to be a aswner that > i can > >do on my own > > > >stacie,19 > > Re: quick update > > > > > > > Stacie, I hope you don't think we are saying this is all mental. > > > Whatwe are saying is that no matter how bad your situation, > > > counselling and anti-depressants can often help you learn to > survive > > > and thrive with it. So even though there may be no more to be done > > > physically for you, I still would encourage you to seek > counselling. > > > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > there is no more they can do to treat my heart nothign this is > more > > > then just mental > > > > > > > > stacie,19 > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Zapper homepage at > > > http://www.ZapLife.org > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2003 Report Share Posted February 21, 2003 Dear , You must be fairly new to the zapper or I have been away longer than I thought. Sorry that you feel my comments were rude they weren't intended to be. Stacie is a wonderful person who has many problem but no matter what any of us have tried to do for here she takes it and turns it around so there is never any solution. I could bend your ear forever on the tragic life I have led. I was raised by abusive parents both physically, mentally, and sexual since the age of 4. Things have happen in my life that make my shrink turn red. I have been beaten kicked stabbed poisoned please believe that I know what angry and pain are all about. My health has been in the air since I was 8 years old which only made me a candidate for more abuse. Since I am very old there was no treatment for my heart problems as I was growing up. I also married and raised a family and have dealt with many problem in my marriage and my children. I keep thinking what else can happen to me. I have given up many times and said to hell with it. But, then I think what will that prove. I have found was to help myself and to get care for myself when we were so broke we weren't sure where we live. My episodes with my heart have left clinically dead and on the floor of many various places including my own home. I have seizure and flash back from my very worse episode. Sometimes when it storms outside and I see lightening bolts I think oh here I go again and relive the whole situation People on this board have helped to mend me and put me pack together and Stacie was one of those people. I have been there for her emotionally and financially and she still refuses to except what people have to offer. We all n eed to vent but we all need to grow. Sharon in Ohio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2003 Report Share Posted February 21, 2003 Hi Riccardo - When people write in all caps - its considered SHOUTING. When people add many !!!!! at the end of a sentence, it is used to emphasize a point and can be the same as shouting. When she adds these things to her emails it gives the reader the sense that she is shouting or angry. For those of you who have used the internet for more than a few years, should know what I'm talking about, email ettiquette. I'm only a few years older than staci myself and received my ICD when I was 20. I can fully understand what she is going through. I have epilepsy (seizures), Long QT and have been shocked by my ICD over 20 times in the last 3.5 years. But.... I find other ways to look past it. Thankfully I just got married, so I had that to concentrate on. But I also do alot of volunteering, I find sharing my story really helps. I tried the whole counseling thing, but its hard to find people who understand. Its even hard to find that here - it seems like this group skims right past the hard stuff and only focus' on the 'good'. Well.... with an ICD does not come good, there is an awful lot of bad too. I can understand why staci is upset/agry - but she should try to be constructive and see what alot of us have been saying to her too. I think that Sharons comments were out of line and rude. If she doesn't want to read about the bad too (which happens to all of us) then don't read it, let alone respond to it!!! Staci never said anything to warrant her response, and I'd be mad too. Just ignore her Staci - she is not you and doesn't know what its like to be in YOUR shoes - none of us do, please keep that in mind. We can't get as emotional as you about your problems, becuase we are not you. Its like being in school, a teacher is only going to show you how to do something so many times before she tells you to do it on your own. But... I can understand what the underlying current of her message is. Staci needs to take the advice we give her and run with it - try to work it out on her own. That is ALL we can give her, advice from our own personal experiences. So far, in the advice she has gotten, I haven't seen anything constructive from her, any sign she is working it out. I only see the same emails saying the same things. I know its hard. It took 6 months of group therapy to get me out of the last funk I was in. It wasn't so much the group therapy that helped me though - it was time. My mother is bi-polar and gets free counseling. Most if not all states make provisions for free counseling. Just call ANY doctors office and they can refer you to a free counselor Staci. Trust me, all you have to do is look. Its hard to be constructive when everything has been thrown in your face. She says she's had medical problems her whole life, its just another road block I know she can get by. She is strong, as we've all seen, she just needs to pick herself up, dust off and start again. I'd recommend looking into a neuro board for epilepsy - they help me alot. Re: quick update>>> > Stacie, I hope you don't think we are saying this is all mental.> > Whatwe are saying is that no matter how bad your situation,> > counselling and anti-depressants can often help you learn to survive> > and thrive with it. So even though there may be no more to be done> > physically for you, I still would encourage you to seek counselling.> >> > Bridget> >> >> > > > there is no more they can do to treat my heart nothign this is more> > then just mental> > >> > > stacie,19> >> >> > Please visit the Zapper homepage at> > http://www.ZapLife.org> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2003 Report Share Posted February 21, 2003 Here we go again ... Sharon... I think the last part of you post says it all... you can only offer so much help and support to a person and when it's not taken then you just have to let it go ... for those of us that have been here Stacie's recent posts are rather old hat ... mind you, I wouldn't want to trade places w/Stacie for all the tea in China... but it is difficult to comprehend how Stacie manages to recieve all the medical care she does and no emotional or mental care or suport from her care givers ... Stacie... we all understand the need to vent... but you must realize, when you vent we try to support... if it seems you're not accepting that support we're at a loss... JES in NJ > > > People on this board have helped to mend me and put me pack together and > Stacie was one of those people. I have been there for her emotionally and > financially and she still refuses to except what people have to offer. > > We all n eed to vent but we all need to grow. > > Sharon in Ohio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2003 Report Share Posted February 21, 2003 Nope, old hat here - been here since Aug. 2000 when I got my ICD. I've seen all of stacie's and your posts and know both of your 'stories'. You have been some of my fav. people here, until I see each of you attack each other. Stacie just needs someone to talk to, not necessarily to listen, as is evident in her emails. She obviously takes us for granted. I find in instances like hers that a pet does really good, but she choose to use this group - possibly to find someone in a similar situation. Its not a crime to look for some well meaning souls. And its not a crime to not listen either. If a person emails about something you don't like simply ignore them. A novel concept on some boards I belong to. Keep maturity as a factor in this case, she is young and obviously doesn't do well with change. Don't insult her though, she didn't do anything to you to warrant that. I'm crazy for cross stitch! http://mai_lin.tripod.com/crossstitch/mainframes.html >From: IIPistacio@... >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Re: quick update >Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:18:57 EST > >Dear , You must be fairly new to the zapper or I have been away >longer than I thought. Sorry that you feel my comments were rude they >weren't intended to be. Stacie is a wonderful person who has many problem >but no matter what any of us have tried to do for here she takes it and >turns >it around so there is never any solution. > >I could bend your ear forever on the tragic life I have led. I was raised >by >abusive parents both physically, mentally, and sexual since the age of 4. >Things have happen in my life that make my shrink turn red. I have been >beaten kicked stabbed poisoned please believe that I know what angry and >pain >are all about. My health has been in the air since I was 8 years old which >only made me a candidate for more abuse. Since I am very old there was no >treatment for my heart problems as I was growing up. I also married and >raised a family and have dealt with many problem in my marriage and my >children. I keep thinking what else can happen to me. I have given up >many >times and said to hell with it. But, then I think what will that prove. I >have found was to help myself and to get care for myself when we were so >broke we weren't sure where we live. > >My episodes with my heart have left clinically dead and on the floor of >many >various places including my own home. I have seizure and flash back from >my >very worse episode. Sometimes when it storms outside and I see lightening >bolts I think oh here I go again and relive the whole situation > >People on this board have helped to mend me and put me pack together and >Stacie was one of those people. I have been there for her emotionally and >financially and she still refuses to except what people have to offer. > >We all n eed to vent but we all need to grow. > >Sharon in Ohio _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2003 Report Share Posted February 21, 2003 OK everyone; I am asking you gals to take a deep breath and stop this please. Weather they are insults or not some of the comments from both parties appearently hurting one another. So this has to stop. The man that created this group Jon Duffy has been busy with other things and so left me as a moderator. I would appreciate if from now on, if you gals do not point your emails to one another. Thanks. I love you gals both and you both are ol'timers here(not the age), so please do not put me or anyone in the group in a guilty position as if we're taking sides. Love TURK >From: IIPistacio@... >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Re: quick update >Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:18:57 EST > >Dear , You must be fairly new to the zapper or I have been away >longer than I thought. Sorry that you feel my comments were rude they >weren't intended to be. Stacie is a wonderful person who has many problem >but no matter what any of us have tried to do for here she takes it and >turns >it around so there is never any solution. > >I could bend your ear forever on the tragic life I have led. I was raised >by >abusive parents both physically, mentally, and sexual since the age of 4. >Things have happen in my life that make my shrink turn red. I have been >beaten kicked stabbed poisoned please believe that I know what angry and >pain >are all about. My health has been in the air since I was 8 years old which >only made me a candidate for more abuse. Since I am very old there was no >treatment for my heart problems as I was growing up. I also married and >raised a family and have dealt with many problem in my marriage and my >children. I keep thinking what else can happen to me. I have given up >many >times and said to hell with it. But, then I think what will that prove. I >have found was to help myself and to get care for myself when we were so >broke we weren't sure where we live. > >My episodes with my heart have left clinically dead and on the floor of >many >various places including my own home. I have seizure and flash back from >my >very worse episode. Sometimes when it storms outside and I see lightening >bolts I think oh here I go again and relive the whole situation > >People on this board have helped to mend me and put me pack together and >Stacie was one of those people. I have been there for her emotionally and >financially and she still refuses to except what people have to offer. > >We all n eed to vent but we all need to grow. > >Sharon in Ohio _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2003 Report Share Posted February 22, 2003 Sharon, You are right on. Congratulations for being a survivor. I admire your courage and fortitude. Jan in Wisconsin -----Original Message-----From: IIPistacio@... [mailto:IIPistacio@...]Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 10:19 AM Subject: Re: Re: quick updateDear , You must be fairly new to the zapper or I have been away longer than I thought. Sorry that you feel my comments were rude they weren't intended to be. Stacie is a wonderful person who has many problem but no matter what any of us have tried to do for here she takes it and turns it around so there is never any solution.I could bend your ear forever on the tragic life I have led. I was raised by abusive parents both physically, mentally, and sexual since the age of 4. Things have happen in my life that make my shrink turn red. I have been beaten kicked stabbed poisoned please believe that I know what angry and pain are all about. My health has been in the air since I was 8 years old which only made me a candidate for more abuse. Since I am very old there was no treatment for my heart problems as I was growing up. I also married and raised a family and have dealt with many problem in my marriage and my children. I keep thinking what else can happen to me. I have given up many times and said to hell with it. But, then I think what will that prove. I have found was to help myself and to get care for myself when we were so broke we weren't sure where we live.My episodes with my heart have left clinically dead and on the floor of many various places including my own home. I have seizure and flash back from my very worse episode. Sometimes when it storms outside and I see lightening bolts I think oh here I go again and relive the whole situationPeople on this board have helped to mend me and put me pack together and Stacie was one of those people. I have been there for her emotionally and financially and she still refuses to except what people have to offer.We all n eed to vent but we all need to grow.Sharon in Ohio Please visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2003 Report Share Posted February 22, 2003 I second this. But I also want to add, that I don't think of Stacie as immature (sorry to talk abouty ou like your not here Stacie, but I need to say this). What I think is that she is 19 or is it 20 now? and has been dealing with so much medical crap that she doesn't fit into any group anymore. She doesn't fit with people her own age because most of them don't have a clue and she doesn't really fit with us 'old folks' either because she doesn't have the same cultural base that we share. She does not remember a time before microwave ovens and cd's. Sure, we can share things, but that feeling of not fitting anywhere has to be a big issue for her. SHe does not need people her saying nasty things about how she responds to their help. So, once again, if you don't like what someone has to say, don't read their posts. And that is for EVERYONE. And if you have negative opinions of someone here, keep it to yourself. Bridget > If a person emails about something you don't like > simply ignore them. A novel concept on some boards > I belong to. Keep maturity as a factor in this > case, she is young and obviously doesn't do well > with change. Don't insult her though, she didn't > do anything to you to warrant that. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2003 Report Share Posted February 22, 2003 Thanks, Turk, My post just before this was written before I read yours. Bridget > OK everyone; > I am asking you gals to take a deep breath and stop this please. Weather > they are insults or not some of the comments from both parties appearently > hurting one another. So this has to stop. The man that created this group > Jon Duffy has been busy with other things and so left me as a moderator. I > would appreciate if from now on, if you gals do not point your emails to one > another. Thanks. I love you gals both and you both are ol'timers here(not > the age), so please do not put me or anyone in the group in a guilty > position as if we're taking sides. Love TURK > > > > > > > > >From: IIPistacio@a... > >Reply- > > > >Subject: Re: Re: quick update > >Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:18:57 EST > > > >Dear , You must be fairly new to the zapper or I have been away > >longer than I thought. Sorry that you feel my comments were rude they > >weren't intended to be. Stacie is a wonderful person who has many problem > >but no matter what any of us have tried to do for here she takes it and > >turns > >it around so there is never any solution. > > > >I could bend your ear forever on the tragic life I have led. I was raised > >by > >abusive parents both physically, mentally, and sexual since the age of 4. > >Things have happen in my life that make my shrink turn red. I have been > >beaten kicked stabbed poisoned please believe that I know what angry and > >pain > >are all about. My health has been in the air since I was 8 years old which > >only made me a candidate for more abuse. Since I am very old there was no > >treatment for my heart problems as I was growing up. I also married and > >raised a family and have dealt with many problem in my marriage and my > >children. I keep thinking what else can happen to me. I have given up > >many > >times and said to hell with it. But, then I think what will that prove. I > >have found was to help myself and to get care for myself when we were so > >broke we weren't sure where we live. > > > >My episodes with my heart have left clinically dead and on the floor of > >many > >various places including my own home. I have seizure and flash back from > >my > >very worse episode. Sometimes when it storms outside and I see lightening > >bolts I think oh here I go again and relive the whole situation > > > >People on this board have helped to mend me and put me pack together and > >Stacie was one of those people. I have been there for her emotionally and > >financially and she still refuses to except what people have to offer. > > > >We all n eed to vent but we all need to grow. > > > >Sharon in Ohio > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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