Ozonated Olive Oil

October 6, 2004

Immediately after breathing the nebulized ozonated olive oil salve (ooos) I

experienced nothing and now this morning, nothing.

RE: ozonated Olive oil

Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:08:10 -0700

Saul,

I used in the original question... " Since you can breathe ozoned Olive oil

vapor. " What I really wanted to say was, since " ozone vapor is breathed when

" bubbled/nebulized " thru water " .

So I'll ask this question again, because so far the only things I am aware

of that are nebulized are " water based " , ie:albuterol, ozone. Is it OK for

the Olive " oil " to be the carrier of the ozone " into the lungs. " I assuming

the lungs will assimilate/absorb the olive oil? Thanks, Ron

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October 6, 2004

Dear Ron,

People have been doing this 100 years without incident.

Best of health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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Subject: RE: ozonated Olive oil

Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 20:07:02 -0700

Saul,

OK I'm going to go try it now. It still seems to me the nebulizer/mist that

I'm going to be inhaling is " olive oil " droplet's with ozone in them and

everything I know and feel says, " water-based OK, oil-based not OK " when it

comes to what can go in the lungs.

Ron

Last chance for comments from ya'll. Will return with results.

Ron

RE: ozonated Olive oil

Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:08:10 -0700

Saul,

I used in the original question... " Since you can breathe ozoned Olive oil

vapor. " What I really wanted to say was, since " ozone vapor is breathed when

" bubbled/nebulized " thru water " .

So I'll ask this question again, because so far the only things I am aware

of that are nebulized are " water based " , ie:albuterol, ozone. Is it OK for

the Olive " oil " to be the carrier of the ozone " into the lungs. " I assuming

the lungs will assimilate/absorb the olive oil? Thanks, Ron

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October 6, 2004

MAKE VERY SURE YOU DON'T ALLOW YOUR OIL TO BACK UP INTO YOUR OZONE

GENERATOR. This will happen if you leave everything connected but shut off

the o3 generator and turn off the o2 feed. Oil will back flow into your

EXPENSIVE o3 machine. You can rig up a second glass jar so this cannot

happen.

Breathing ozone bubbled through tea tree oil is even more interesting. Same

for Eucalyptus. Trying both now. But breathing ozone through olive oil is

very useful. More mild than through oils such as Tea Tree and Eucalyptus

which to me are first cousins. I have overdone breathing through tea tree

but it took some doing

You can make a better test of olive/ozone breathing by sucking it in right

through your mouth (forget that canula) and holding it in for 10 seconds and

more. I have an oxygen concentrator coming from eBay and will give a real

test with olive/ozone breathing. My theory is 30-60 minutes per day is not

harmful

Dan

RE: ozonated Olive oil

> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:08:10 -0700

>

> Saul,

> I used in the original question... " Since you can breathe ozoned Olive oil

> vapor. " What I really wanted to say was, since " ozone vapor is breathed

when

> " bubbled/nebulized " thru water " .

>

> So I'll ask this question again, because so far the only things I am aware

> of that are nebulized are " water based " , ie:albuterol, ozone. Is it OK for

> the Olive " oil " to be the carrier of the ozone " into the lungs. " I

assuming

> the lungs will assimilate/absorb the olive oil? Thanks, Ron

>

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October 8, 2004

Is it possible you two are talking about two different things?

Saul, I don't think Ron is talking about using *your* breathing setup.

He seems to be talking about using a *nebulizer*, which will, indeed,

result in a fine mist of whatever substance is used in it going into the

lungs. So, if he is indeed using Olive Oil in the nebulizer, and somehow

introducing Ozone into the mix, it seems to me that this is very

different from what your setup does.

Or am I completely off base here?

> Message: 10

> Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 16:23:05 +0000

> From: " Saul Pressman " <spressman@...>

> Subject: RE: ozonated Olive oil

>

> Dear Ron,

>

> People have been doing this 100 years without incident.

>

> Best of health!

> Dr. Saul Pressman

>

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> From: " Ron Petruccione " <petruccione@...>

> Reply-oxyplus

> <oxyplus >

> Subject: RE: ozonated Olive oil

> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 20:07:02 -0700

>

> Saul,

> OK I'm going to go try it now. It still seems to me the nebulizer/mist that

> I'm going to be inhaling is " olive oil " droplet's with ozone in them and

> everything I know and feel says, " water-based OK, oil-based not OK " when it

> comes to what can go in the lungs.

> Ron

> Last chance for comments from ya'll. Will return with results.

> Ron

October 9, 2004

and Robb Thank you very much for paying attention!

SAUL! JESUS FUCKING CHRIST WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!!!!!

I ASK THE SAME QUESTION NO LESS THAN THREE TIMES AND GOT THE SAME GOD DAMN

ANSWER!!!!!

AFTER I USED THE OZONATED OLIVE OIL SALVE IN THE NEBULIZER ON MYSELF AND

FELT NO ILL EFFECTS, I DID IT ONCE TO MY 9.5 YR. DAUGHTER WHO IS CONSTANTLY

CONGESTED AND WAS POSSIBLY COMING DOWN WITH A LITTLE BRONCHITIS. SHE

STARTED BARKING LIKE A SEAL THE NEXT DAY. 3 DAYS LATER I GET HER TO THE DOC

BECAUSE SHE IS GETTING WORSE AND HE SAYS FUCKING " PNEUMONIA " !!!!

DO WHATEVER YOU LIKE TO MY SUBSCRIPTION TO THIS GROUP!!!

and Robb, if you have any suggestions as to what I can do you for my

and my daughters oil coated lungs please feel free to email privately.

Ron

one seriously pissed off dad.

Re: Re: nebulized olive oil

Inhaling the mist of any oil can cause pneumonia.........that's why people

were told to stop giving castor oil to children.......it tasted so bad and

then would make the child cough......this would aspirate the oil into the

lungs and then the child would get pneumonia......don't do it.........Robb

ozonated Olive oil

Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 00:36:46 -0700

Saul,

Still don't have the money for a generator yet, but everyone in the family

has sinusitis issues. I have a nebulizer and was wondering.... Since you can

breathe ozoned Olive oil vapor. Can I get some benefit by nebulizing the

ozonated olive oil slave, after it has liquified? Ron

October 9, 2004

>

and Robb, if you have any suggestions as to what I can do

you for my

> and my daughters oil coated lungs please feel free to email

privately.

> Ron

> one seriously pissed off dad.

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HI Ron,

There have been many (including myself and husband) who have had

really good results using a nebulizer with a mixture of CS and MSM.

1 oz. CS with 1/4 to 1/2 tsp. of MSM. Do a 20 to 30 minute treatment

three times daily. Some people who have several lung problems have

stayed on the nebulizer, CS/MSM mixture for as long as an hour at a

time. Make sure tho she has used both products before so that you

know she will not have any adverse reaction to the mixture.

I do not know if this will help with oil coated lungs but it does

work very well with viral puenomia.

Gail

]

October 9, 2004

Dear Ron, First I am very sorry for the girl winding up with pneumonia!

Second,

It is sad that you curse God who holds your life and breath and health in

His hand.

I would hope that you would not allow the tirade against such a loving and

kind

Heavenly Father who was not willing that any should perish but that all

should

come to repentance. If upon reflection of the contents of your post you

should

see the folly of your statements, I would urge you to repent and ask God for

forgiveness for such a sin(s) and then ask the list for the same.

Respectfully and love to you and yours as we pray.

K. Hessler, N.M.D.

HC 1 Box 175

Centerville, MO 63633

573-924-2254 (usually home after 8 pm)

October 12, 2004

I must say, I'm severely disappointed in the support I received from this

group, except for " Wanda " /Gail.

When I needed help most I received 1 response and a request to repent for my

language.

Thankfully other members from other groups responded, as did Tom Harrelson

when I emailed him.

Mea culpa indeed.

Ron

Re: Re: nebulized olive oil

Inhaling the mist of any oil can cause pneumonia.........that's why people

were told to stop giving castor oil to children.......it tasted so bad and

then would make the child cough......this would aspirate the oil into the

lungs and then the child would get pneumonia......don't do it.........Robb

ozonated Olive oil

Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 00:36:46 -0700

Saul,

Still don't have the money for a generator yet, but everyone in the family

has sinusitis issues. I have a nebulizer and was wondering.... Since you can

breathe ozoned Olive oil vapor. Can I get some benefit by nebulizing the

ozonated olive oil slave, after it has liquified? Ron

October 12, 2004

> and Robb Thank you very much for paying attention! SAUL!

<snip> profanity

> and Robb, if you have any suggestions as to what I can do you

> for my and my daughters oil coated lungs please feel free to email

> privately. Ron one seriously pissed off dad.

Hi Ron,

It appears that Saul definitely missed this one, and it only goes to

show that when we are discussing matters of health, sometimes serious

matters, we should always be very careful to read everything that

someone says.

I, for one, know without a doubt that the last thing Saul would ever do

is want to cause someone any pain. In fact, he gives more of his time

and energy that anyone I know. That said, people do make mistakes. In

spite of your daughters situation - and I sincerely hope she is ok by

now - please don't write Saul off just because he was in a hurry and

tried to help you without reading everything you said carefully.

Anyway, just my two clad coins worth...

And Ron - believe it or not... breathing ozone bubbled through olive oil

(*not* - repeat, *not* through a nebulizer) the way Saul describes is

the best thing you could do for her *now*.

Sometimes it doesn't pay to try to reinvent the wheel or change things

that simply work.

October 12, 2004

Hi Ron,

Did you find a means to remove the oil from your daughter's lungs?

If so, can you pass that info on?

I'm sorry you didn't receive more support. I don't know why that

is. Perhaps people thought other responded privately.

Personally, I did not get offended by the language although I am not

pron to profanity. That plus being a Christian. Still you lashing

out in anger did not cause me any personal offense. People react in

ways when angery that they wouldn't ordinarily act. I'd be more

offended if I saw a father who didn't get angry about what happened

to his daughter.

I know I was also disappointed in the lack of support from egroups

when my husband had bypass surgery. It was a time when I just lost

it emotionally, physically, too. And how I longed for any word of

encouragement, but none came. I think sometimes people just don't

realize how a little kind word here and there goes a long way. Or

perhaps they mistakenly think somebody else will do it. But what I

did get out of that is our true support comes from those in our

personal life, not those in a computer. And although the computer is

a link to very real people, it is the ones in our personal life who

care the most, support the most, & is there when the going gets

rough.

How is your daughter doing now? I sincerely hope she is improving.

Take care,

Gail

> I must say, I'm severely disappointed in the support I received

from this

> group,

>

October 12, 2004

ron

pneumonia is a detoxification of the lungs

something that brings on pneumonia is not necessarily a horrible thing.

asbestos is obviously not such a great thing, but oil however is not so bad

imo.

if you cook with oil it gets in the air and you breathe it. maybe not to the

extent of breathing in nebulized oil but i think it's the same principle,

and likely your daughter already had something going on with her lungs

before this incident, whether it was symptomatic or not.

as you know from the many experiences here in natural medicine, many of us

are intentionally bringing on detoxifications of all organs

if i were in your shoes, the first thing i would do is nothing. see if it

resolves of its own accord. children are resilient

if this doesn't work, then i would try regular or steam sauna with no ozone

to moisten the lungs. make sure she is in an environment with clean air.

then i would try to increase her intake of raw saturated fats, butter,

cream, raw coconut, avocado. i know that aajonus has had success with

pneumonia, but this is the last thing i would recommend to you at this point

since the cleansing reactions will likely make this incident seem trivial.

i fully agree with you about the sanctimonious person who ignored the issue

and chose to focus on your language.

my personal intuition regarding breathing ozone and ear insufflation is to

stay away from these. supposedly i do have a longstanding pneumonia. i did

try breathing ozone through oil a few times and felt nothing. i feel that

when my lungs are ready i will spit up whatever is in there. at this point i

dont want to force the issue.

if i had nothing wrong with me, i would never get into these types of

therapies. and stay away from doctors and drugs.

October 13, 2004

Re: ozonated Olive oil

ron

pneumonia is a detoxification of the lungs

something that brings on pneumonia is not necessarily a horrible thing.

asbestos is obviously not such a great thing,

******

thought asbestos in the lungs bought you cancer

******

but oil however is not so bad imo.

*****

Yeah, I suppose if you want to try and find the bright side.

There is nothing I would prefer more than ozonated olive oil in my lungs.

*****

if you cook with oil it gets in the air and you breathe it. maybe not to the

extent of breathing in nebulized oil but i think it's the same principle,

and likely your daughter already had something going on with her lungs

before this incident, whether it was symptomatic or not.

as you know from the many experiences here in natural medicine, many of us

are intentionally bringing on detoxifications of all organs

if i were in your shoes, the first thing i would do is nothing. see if it

resolves of its own accord. children are resilient

if this doesn't work, then i would try regular or steam sauna with no ozone

to moisten the lungs. make sure she is in an environment with clean air.

then i would try to increase her intake of raw saturated fats, butter,

cream, raw coconut, avocado. i know that aajonus has had success with

pneumonia, but this is the last thing i would recommend to you at this point

since the cleansing reactions will likely make this incident seem trivial.

i fully agree with you about the sanctimonious person who ignored the issue

and chose to focus on your language.

my personal intuition regarding breathing ozone and ear insufflation is to

stay away from these.

******

I have done both once, via an aquaintence in another city. The 5 minutes of

ear insufflation resulted in dark yellow waxy residue the next day, which I

wish I could have continued and the EVOO/ozone breathing resulted in

nothing, but feel I never had a chance to " dial it in " .

******

supposedly i do have a longstanding pneumonia. i did

try breathing ozone through oil a few times and felt nothing. i feel that

when my lungs are ready i will spit up whatever is in there. at this point i

dont want to force the issue.

if i had nothing wrong with me, i would never get into these types of

therapies. and stay away from doctors and drugs.

October 13, 2004

Re: ozonated Olive oil

Hi Ron,

Did you find a means to remove the oil from your daughter's lungs?

If so, can you pass that info on?

******

nothing has changed as of yet.

******

I'm sorry you didn't receive more support. I don't know why that

is. Perhaps people thought other responded privately.

******

I hope so

******

Personally, I did not get offended by the language although I am not

pron to profanity. That plus being a Christian. Still you lashing

out in anger did not cause me any personal offense. People react in

ways when angery that they wouldn't ordinarily act. I'd be more

offended if I saw a father who didn't get angry about what happened

to his daughter.

******

Your understanding is appreciated.