Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Immediately after breathing the nebulized ozonated olive oil salve (ooos) I experienced nothing and now this morning, nothing. RE: ozonated Olive oil Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:08:10 -0700 Saul, I used in the original question... " Since you can breathe ozoned Olive oil vapor. " What I really wanted to say was, since " ozone vapor is breathed when " bubbled/nebulized " thru water " . So I'll ask this question again, because so far the only things I am aware of that are nebulized are " water based " , ie:albuterol, ozone. Is it OK for the Olive " oil " to be the carrier of the ozone " into the lungs. " I assuming the lungs will assimilate/absorb the olive oil? Thanks, Ron OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Dear Ron, People have been doing this 100 years without incident. Best of health! Dr. Saul Pressman ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----Original Message Follows---- From: " Ron Petruccione " <petruccione@...> Reply-oxyplus <oxyplus > Subject: RE: ozonated Olive oil Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 20:07:02 -0700 Saul, OK I'm going to go try it now. It still seems to me the nebulizer/mist that I'm going to be inhaling is " olive oil " droplet's with ozone in them and everything I know and feel says, " water-based OK, oil-based not OK " when it comes to what can go in the lungs. Ron Last chance for comments from ya'll. Will return with results. Ron RE: ozonated Olive oil Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:08:10 -0700 Saul, I used in the original question... " Since you can breathe ozoned Olive oil vapor. " What I really wanted to say was, since " ozone vapor is breathed when " bubbled/nebulized " thru water " . So I'll ask this question again, because so far the only things I am aware of that are nebulized are " water based " , ie:albuterol, ozone. Is it OK for the Olive " oil " to be the carrier of the ozone " into the lungs. " I assuming the lungs will assimilate/absorb the olive oil? Thanks, Ron _________________________________________________________________ MSN® Calendar keeps you organized and takes the effort out of scheduling get-togethers. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca & page=byoa/prem & xAPID=1994 & DI=1034 & SU=http://\ hotmail.com/enca & HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 MAKE VERY SURE YOU DON'T ALLOW YOUR OIL TO BACK UP INTO YOUR OZONE GENERATOR. This will happen if you leave everything connected but shut off the o3 generator and turn off the o2 feed. Oil will back flow into your EXPENSIVE o3 machine. You can rig up a second glass jar so this cannot happen. Breathing ozone bubbled through tea tree oil is even more interesting. Same for Eucalyptus. Trying both now. But breathing ozone through olive oil is very useful. More mild than through oils such as Tea Tree and Eucalyptus which to me are first cousins. I have overdone breathing through tea tree but it took some doing You can make a better test of olive/ozone breathing by sucking it in right through your mouth (forget that canula) and holding it in for 10 seconds and more. I have an oxygen concentrator coming from eBay and will give a real test with olive/ozone breathing. My theory is 30-60 minutes per day is not harmful Dan RE: ozonated Olive oil > Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:08:10 -0700 > > Saul, > I used in the original question... " Since you can breathe ozoned Olive oil > vapor. " What I really wanted to say was, since " ozone vapor is breathed when > " bubbled/nebulized " thru water " . > > So I'll ask this question again, because so far the only things I am aware > of that are nebulized are " water based " , ie:albuterol, ozone. Is it OK for > the Olive " oil " to be the carrier of the ozone " into the lungs. " I assuming > the lungs will assimilate/absorb the olive oil? Thanks, Ron > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN® Calendar keeps you organized and takes the effort out of scheduling > get-togethers. > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca & page=byoa/prem & xAPID=1994 & DI=1034 & SU=htt p://hotmail.com/enca & HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the > first two months FREE*. > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2004 Report Share Posted October 8, 2004 Is it possible you two are talking about two different things? Saul, I don't think Ron is talking about using *your* breathing setup. He seems to be talking about using a *nebulizer*, which will, indeed, result in a fine mist of whatever substance is used in it going into the lungs. So, if he is indeed using Olive Oil in the nebulizer, and somehow introducing Ozone into the mix, it seems to me that this is very different from what your setup does. Or am I completely off base here? > Message: 10 > Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 16:23:05 +0000 > From: " Saul Pressman " <spressman@...> > Subject: RE: ozonated Olive oil > > Dear Ron, > > People have been doing this 100 years without incident. > > Best of health! > Dr. Saul Pressman > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: " Ron Petruccione " <petruccione@...> > Reply-oxyplus > <oxyplus > > Subject: RE: ozonated Olive oil > Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 20:07:02 -0700 > > Saul, > OK I'm going to go try it now. It still seems to me the nebulizer/mist that > I'm going to be inhaling is " olive oil " droplet's with ozone in them and > everything I know and feel says, " water-based OK, oil-based not OK " when it > comes to what can go in the lungs. > Ron > Last chance for comments from ya'll. Will return with results. > Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2004 Report Share Posted October 9, 2004 and Robb Thank you very much for paying attention! SAUL! JESUS FUCKING CHRIST WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!!!!! I ASK THE SAME QUESTION NO LESS THAN THREE TIMES AND GOT THE SAME GOD DAMN ANSWER!!!!! AFTER I USED THE OZONATED OLIVE OIL SALVE IN THE NEBULIZER ON MYSELF AND FELT NO ILL EFFECTS, I DID IT ONCE TO MY 9.5 YR. DAUGHTER WHO IS CONSTANTLY CONGESTED AND WAS POSSIBLY COMING DOWN WITH A LITTLE BRONCHITIS. SHE STARTED BARKING LIKE A SEAL THE NEXT DAY. 3 DAYS LATER I GET HER TO THE DOC BECAUSE SHE IS GETTING WORSE AND HE SAYS FUCKING " PNEUMONIA " !!!! DO WHATEVER YOU LIKE TO MY SUBSCRIPTION TO THIS GROUP!!! and Robb, if you have any suggestions as to what I can do you for my and my daughters oil coated lungs please feel free to email privately. Ron one seriously pissed off dad. Re: Re: nebulized olive oil Inhaling the mist of any oil can cause pneumonia.........that's why people were told to stop giving castor oil to children.......it tasted so bad and then would make the child cough......this would aspirate the oil into the lungs and then the child would get pneumonia......don't do it.........Robb ozonated Olive oil Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 00:36:46 -0700 Saul, Still don't have the money for a generator yet, but everyone in the family has sinusitis issues. I have a nebulizer and was wondering.... Since you can breathe ozoned Olive oil vapor. Can I get some benefit by nebulizing the ozonated olive oil slave, after it has liquified? Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2004 Report Share Posted October 9, 2004 > and Robb, if you have any suggestions as to what I can do you for my > and my daughters oil coated lungs please feel free to email privately. > Ron > one seriously pissed off dad. ===================== HI Ron, There have been many (including myself and husband) who have had really good results using a nebulizer with a mixture of CS and MSM. 1 oz. CS with 1/4 to 1/2 tsp. of MSM. Do a 20 to 30 minute treatment three times daily. Some people who have several lung problems have stayed on the nebulizer, CS/MSM mixture for as long as an hour at a time. Make sure tho she has used both products before so that you know she will not have any adverse reaction to the mixture. I do not know if this will help with oil coated lungs but it does work very well with viral puenomia. Gail ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2004 Report Share Posted October 9, 2004 Dear Ron, First I am very sorry for the girl winding up with pneumonia! Second, It is sad that you curse God who holds your life and breath and health in His hand. I would hope that you would not allow the tirade against such a loving and kind Heavenly Father who was not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. If upon reflection of the contents of your post you should see the folly of your statements, I would urge you to repent and ask God for forgiveness for such a sin(s) and then ask the list for the same. Respectfully and love to you and yours as we pray. K. Hessler, N.M.D. HC 1 Box 175 Centerville, MO 63633 573-924-2254 (usually home after 8 pm) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 I must say, I'm severely disappointed in the support I received from this group, except for " Wanda " /Gail. When I needed help most I received 1 response and a request to repent for my language. Thankfully other members from other groups responded, as did Tom Harrelson when I emailed him. Mea culpa indeed. Ron Re: Re: nebulized olive oil Inhaling the mist of any oil can cause pneumonia.........that's why people were told to stop giving castor oil to children.......it tasted so bad and then would make the child cough......this would aspirate the oil into the lungs and then the child would get pneumonia......don't do it.........Robb ozonated Olive oil Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 00:36:46 -0700 Saul, Still don't have the money for a generator yet, but everyone in the family has sinusitis issues. I have a nebulizer and was wondering.... Since you can breathe ozoned Olive oil vapor. Can I get some benefit by nebulizing the ozonated olive oil slave, after it has liquified? Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 > and Robb Thank you very much for paying attention! SAUL! <snip> profanity > and Robb, if you have any suggestions as to what I can do you > for my and my daughters oil coated lungs please feel free to email > privately. Ron one seriously pissed off dad. Hi Ron, It appears that Saul definitely missed this one, and it only goes to show that when we are discussing matters of health, sometimes serious matters, we should always be very careful to read everything that someone says. I, for one, know without a doubt that the last thing Saul would ever do is want to cause someone any pain. In fact, he gives more of his time and energy that anyone I know. That said, people do make mistakes. In spite of your daughters situation - and I sincerely hope she is ok by now - please don't write Saul off just because he was in a hurry and tried to help you without reading everything you said carefully. Anyway, just my two clad coins worth... And Ron - believe it or not... breathing ozone bubbled through olive oil (*not* - repeat, *not* through a nebulizer) the way Saul describes is the best thing you could do for her *now*. Sometimes it doesn't pay to try to reinvent the wheel or change things that simply work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Hi Ron, Did you find a means to remove the oil from your daughter's lungs? If so, can you pass that info on? I'm sorry you didn't receive more support. I don't know why that is. Perhaps people thought other responded privately. Personally, I did not get offended by the language although I am not pron to profanity. That plus being a Christian. Still you lashing out in anger did not cause me any personal offense. People react in ways when angery that they wouldn't ordinarily act. I'd be more offended if I saw a father who didn't get angry about what happened to his daughter. I know I was also disappointed in the lack of support from egroups when my husband had bypass surgery. It was a time when I just lost it emotionally, physically, too. And how I longed for any word of encouragement, but none came. I think sometimes people just don't realize how a little kind word here and there goes a long way. Or perhaps they mistakenly think somebody else will do it. But what I did get out of that is our true support comes from those in our personal life, not those in a computer. And although the computer is a link to very real people, it is the ones in our personal life who care the most, support the most, & is there when the going gets rough. How is your daughter doing now? I sincerely hope she is improving. Take care, Gail > I must say, I'm severely disappointed in the support I received from this > group, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 ron pneumonia is a detoxification of the lungs something that brings on pneumonia is not necessarily a horrible thing. asbestos is obviously not such a great thing, but oil however is not so bad imo. if you cook with oil it gets in the air and you breathe it. maybe not to the extent of breathing in nebulized oil but i think it's the same principle, and likely your daughter already had something going on with her lungs before this incident, whether it was symptomatic or not. as you know from the many experiences here in natural medicine, many of us are intentionally bringing on detoxifications of all organs if i were in your shoes, the first thing i would do is nothing. see if it resolves of its own accord. children are resilient if this doesn't work, then i would try regular or steam sauna with no ozone to moisten the lungs. make sure she is in an environment with clean air. then i would try to increase her intake of raw saturated fats, butter, cream, raw coconut, avocado. i know that aajonus has had success with pneumonia, but this is the last thing i would recommend to you at this point since the cleansing reactions will likely make this incident seem trivial. i fully agree with you about the sanctimonious person who ignored the issue and chose to focus on your language. my personal intuition regarding breathing ozone and ear insufflation is to stay away from these. supposedly i do have a longstanding pneumonia. i did try breathing ozone through oil a few times and felt nothing. i feel that when my lungs are ready i will spit up whatever is in there. at this point i dont want to force the issue. if i had nothing wrong with me, i would never get into these types of therapies. and stay away from doctors and drugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Re: ozonated Olive oil ron pneumonia is a detoxification of the lungs something that brings on pneumonia is not necessarily a horrible thing. asbestos is obviously not such a great thing, ****** thought asbestos in the lungs bought you cancer ****** but oil however is not so bad imo. ***** Yeah, I suppose if you want to try and find the bright side. There is nothing I would prefer more than ozonated olive oil in my lungs. ***** if you cook with oil it gets in the air and you breathe it. maybe not to the extent of breathing in nebulized oil but i think it's the same principle, and likely your daughter already had something going on with her lungs before this incident, whether it was symptomatic or not. as you know from the many experiences here in natural medicine, many of us are intentionally bringing on detoxifications of all organs if i were in your shoes, the first thing i would do is nothing. see if it resolves of its own accord. children are resilient if this doesn't work, then i would try regular or steam sauna with no ozone to moisten the lungs. make sure she is in an environment with clean air. then i would try to increase her intake of raw saturated fats, butter, cream, raw coconut, avocado. i know that aajonus has had success with pneumonia, but this is the last thing i would recommend to you at this point since the cleansing reactions will likely make this incident seem trivial. i fully agree with you about the sanctimonious person who ignored the issue and chose to focus on your language. my personal intuition regarding breathing ozone and ear insufflation is to stay away from these. ****** I have done both once, via an aquaintence in another city. The 5 minutes of ear insufflation resulted in dark yellow waxy residue the next day, which I wish I could have continued and the EVOO/ozone breathing resulted in nothing, but feel I never had a chance to " dial it in " . ****** supposedly i do have a longstanding pneumonia. i did try breathing ozone through oil a few times and felt nothing. i feel that when my lungs are ready i will spit up whatever is in there. at this point i dont want to force the issue. if i had nothing wrong with me, i would never get into these types of therapies. and stay away from doctors and drugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Re: ozonated Olive oil Hi Ron, Did you find a means to remove the oil from your daughter's lungs? If so, can you pass that info on? ****** nothing has changed as of yet. ****** I'm sorry you didn't receive more support. I don't know why that is. Perhaps people thought other responded privately. ****** I hope so ****** Personally, I did not get offended by the language although I am not pron to profanity. That plus being a Christian. Still you lashing out in anger did not cause me any personal offense. People react in ways when angery that they wouldn't ordinarily act. I'd be more offended if I saw a father who didn't get angry about what happened to his daughter. ****** Your understanding is appreciated. ***** I know I was also disappointed in the lack of support from egroups when my husband had bypass surgery. It was a time when I just lost it emotionally, physically, too. And how I longed for any word of encouragement, but none came. I think sometimes people just don't realize how a little kind word here and there goes a long way. Or perhaps they mistakenly think somebody else will do it. But what I did get out of that is our true support comes from those in our personal life, not those in a computer. And although the computer is a link to very real people, it is the ones in our personal life who care the most, support the most, & is there when the going gets rough. ******* Unforetunately for me it is the other way around. Wife left with the dx of Autism for the daughter and only family left is mom (retired RN) and dad (ex military medic), who think I'm chasing wishful thinking with all this " alternative stuff " . How is your daughter doing now? **** same **** I sincerely hope she is improving. **** thanks ***** Take care, Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 RE: ozonated Olive oil Hi Ron, It appears that Saul definitely missed this one, and it only goes to show that when we are discussing matters of health, sometimes serious matters, we should always be very careful to read everything that someone says. I, for one, know without a doubt that the last thing Saul would ever do is want to cause someone any pain. In fact, he gives more of his time and energy that anyone I know. That said, people do make mistakes. In spite of your daughters situation - and I sincerely hope she is ok by now - please don't write Saul off just because he was in a hurry and tried to help you without reading everything you said carefully. **************** , As heavily as I came down on Saul I would never write him off. His " Owners Manual " is still a work of genius in my eyes. What got me was this was avoidable. Not a freak reaction that usually doesn't happen. I asked no less than 3 times consistantly using " nebulizer " and " salve " AND " slave " . I was probably more mad at myself, for letting this happen, than Saul. *************** Anyway, just my two clad coins worth... And Ron - believe it or not... breathing ozone bubbled through olive oil (*not* - repeat, *not* through a nebulizer) the way Saul describes is the best thing you could do for her *now*. ************** this all came about because I don't have the funds for that and was trying to do something proactive. ************** Sometimes it doesn't pay to try to reinvent the wheel or change things that simply work. ************* I can't agree I was doing that, but desperate people will take desperate measures. ************* ******* thanks for your thoughts and opening up this dialogue. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 > >Hi Ron, > > Did you find a means to remove the oil from your daughter's lungs? > If so, can you pass that info on? > ****** > nothing has changed as of yet. > ****** > > ====================== Hi again, Ron. A few things come to mind that might help your daughter that is very inexpensive. Remember when Jim Lambert was having so much trouble with pneumonia. One of the things that he said helped him so much was tea tree oil. We were having a lot of trouble back then, too so I went to the health food store and got some. I would heat up a cup of water and add 4 or 5 drops of the tea tree oil to the cup of hot water and inhale the fumes from the steaming water. It is important to stress you only inhale the steam with the fumes of the oil, NOT the oil itself! You do that two or three times daily. It has a very strong order/fumes. I think it's important to get a quality oil for the best results. I did not. The guy at the health food store (when comparing oils) said they were the same thing just one is cheaper. But I can remember folks on the list saying to get a good quality oil. Even with the less expensive oil I used, it really help to open the sinusis. But I still think the neublizer with the MSM/CS mixture worked better for our chest problems we were having at the time. Perhaps if I had gotten the more expensive oil, it would have worked better. Others posted very good results with the better quality oil. So if you are going to give it a try and have the finances, I would go with the more expensive oil. Another thing that is suppose to help bust up congestion is garlic. With her being so young she might not want to eat the fresh garlic, but maybe she will. If not, even the capsules should help. And don't forget vitamin C. I'm serious. Hit the C, mega doses. Last but not least, maybe. I remember another home remedy from hearing old stories growing up. I couldn't sleep so got up and was thinking about your daughter so decided to do a word search. It's mustard packs. I remember hearing stories about it during the flu epidemics. I was amazed at what I found. Do the web search. There are quite a few stories of how this simple remedy saved lives, when the doctor had given them up for dead. In one case, he had even written out the death certificate because he was certain the woman would die, but because he was so busy, he had to go on to other cases so didn't hang around to pronounce her dead. The woman's family applied the mustard packs throughout the night and by morning the fever had broken and, needless to say, she lived. Isn't it amazing? All these things are really very inexpensive but have had repeatedly good results. Take care. Give the little one a hug from an ol' softy for kids woman. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Re: ozonated Olive oil > >Hi Ron, > > Did you find a means to remove the oil from your daughter's lungs? > If so, can you pass that info on? > ****** > nothing has changed as of yet. > ****** > > ====================== Hi again, Ron. A few things come to mind that might help your daughter that is very inexpensive. Remember when Jim Lambert was having so much trouble with pneumonia. One of the things that he said helped him so much was tea tree oil. We were having a lot of trouble back then, too so I went to the health food store and got some. I would heat up a cup of water and add 4 or 5 drops of the tea tree oil to the cup of hot water and inhale the fumes from the steaming water. It is important to stress you only inhale the steam with the fumes of the oil, NOT the oil itself! You do that two or three times daily. It has a very strong order/fumes. I think it's important to get a quality oil for the best results. I did not. The guy at the health food store (when comparing oils) said they were the same thing just one is cheaper. But I can remember folks on the list saying to get a good quality oil. Even with the less expensive oil I used, it really help to open the sinusis. But I still think the neublizer with the MSM/CS mixture worked better for our chest problems we were having at the time. Perhaps if I had gotten the more expensive oil, it would have worked better. Others posted very good results with the better quality oil. So if you are going to give it a try and have the finances, I would go with the more expensive oil. Another thing that is suppose to help bust up congestion is garlic. With her being so young she might not want to eat the fresh garlic, but maybe she will. If not, even the capsules should help. And don't forget vitamin C. I'm serious. Hit the C, mega doses. Last but not least, maybe. I remember another home remedy from hearing old stories growing up. I couldn't sleep so got up and was thinking about your daughter so decided to do a word search. It's mustard packs. I remember hearing stories about it during the flu epidemics. I was amazed at what I found. Do the web search. There are quite a few stories of how this simple remedy saved lives, when the doctor had given them up for dead. In one case, he had even written out the death certificate because he was certain the woman would die, but because he was so busy, he had to go on to other cases so didn't hang around to pronounce her dead. The woman's family applied the mustard packs throughout the night and by morning the fever had broken and, needless to say, she lived. Isn't it amazing? All these things are really very inexpensive but have had repeatedly good results. Take care. Give the little one a hug from an ol' softy for kids woman. Gail Gail, I have been using the CS/msm and already have TTO will give it a try. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Thanks Ron,We both appeciate the Imunical. All I know is 9 vmonths ago bruses on my head healed in 3 days with OZ O O.Burns from my BBQ exploding in my face last week with OZ Olive oil and HBOT are most rapibly healing.Only know I have used it on cuts,like the 30 stiches in my lip last year.Recommended by GR.I learn from the group and others with alternative knowledge For what it's worth. Love Ron Petruccione <petruccione@...> wrote: Re: ozonated Olive oil > >Hi Ron, > > Did you find a means to remove the oil from your daughter's lungs? > If so, can you pass that info on? > ****** > nothing has changed as of yet. > ****** > > ====================== Hi again, Ron. A few things come to mind that might help your daughter that is very inexpensive. Remember when Jim Lambert was having so much trouble with pneumonia. One of the things that he said helped him so much was tea tree oil. We were having a lot of trouble back then, too so I went to the health food store and got some. I would heat up a cup of water and add 4 or 5 drops of the tea tree oil to the cup of hot water and inhale the fumes from the steaming water. It is important to stress you only inhale the steam with the fumes of the oil, NOT the oil itself! You do that two or three times daily. It has a very strong order/fumes. I think it's important to get a quality oil for the best results. I did not. The guy at the health food store (when comparing oils) said they were the same thing just one is cheaper. But I can remember folks on the list saying to get a good quality oil. Even with the less expensive oil I used, it really help to open the sinusis. But I still think the neublizer with the MSM/CS mixture worked better for our chest problems we were having at the time. Perhaps if I had gotten the more expensive oil, it would have worked better. Others posted very good results with the better quality oil. So if you are going to give it a try and have the finances, I would go with the more expensive oil. Another thing that is suppose to help bust up congestion is garlic. With her being so young she might not want to eat the fresh garlic, but maybe she will. If not, even the capsules should help. And don't forget vitamin C. I'm serious. Hit the C, mega doses. Last but not least, maybe. I remember another home remedy from hearing old stories growing up. I couldn't sleep so got up and was thinking about your daughter so decided to do a word search. It's mustard packs. I remember hearing stories about it during the flu epidemics. I was amazed at what I found. Do the web search. There are quite a few stories of how this simple remedy saved lives, when the doctor had given them up for dead. In one case, he had even written out the death certificate because he was certain the woman would die, but because he was so busy, he had to go on to other cases so didn't hang around to pronounce her dead. The woman's family applied the mustard packs throughout the night and by morning the fever had broken and, needless to say, she lived. Isn't it amazing? All these things are really very inexpensive but have had repeatedly good results. Take care. Give the little one a hug from an ol' softy for kids woman. Gail Gail, I have been using the CS/msm and already have TTO will give it a try. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Ron, Where are you? I would contact a Qigong healer to move the energy from the lungs. Call me if interested! Best wishes and much love, Ken Ken Gullan Institute for Research Integration (IRI), San Diego, CA 92106-2424 IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with developmental difficulties. To contact me off-list use kengullan@... or call 619-222-1104 Re: ozonated Olive oil > >Hi Ron, > > Did you find a means to remove the oil from your daughter's lungs? > If so, can you pass that info on? > ****** > nothing has changed as of yet. > ****** > > ====================== Hi again, Ron. A few things come to mind that might help your daughter that is very inexpensive. Remember when Jim Lambert was having so much trouble with pneumonia. One of the things that he said helped him so much was tea tree oil. We were having a lot of trouble back then, too so I went to the health food store and got some. I would heat up a cup of water and add 4 or 5 drops of the tea tree oil to the cup of hot water and inhale the fumes from the steaming water. It is important to stress you only inhale the steam with the fumes of the oil, NOT the oil itself! You do that two or three times daily. It has a very strong order/fumes. I think it's important to get a quality oil for the best results. I did not. The guy at the health food store (when comparing oils) said they were the same thing just one is cheaper. But I can remember folks on the list saying to get a good quality oil. Even with the less expensive oil I used, it really help to open the sinusis. But I still think the neublizer with the MSM/CS mixture worked better for our chest problems we were having at the time. Perhaps if I had gotten the more expensive oil, it would have worked better. Others posted very good results with the better quality oil. So if you are going to give it a try and have the finances, I would go with the more expensive oil. Another thing that is suppose to help bust up congestion is garlic. With her being so young she might not want to eat the fresh garlic, but maybe she will. If not, even the capsules should help. And don't forget vitamin C. I'm serious. Hit the C, mega doses. Last but not least, maybe. I remember another home remedy from hearing old stories growing up. I couldn't sleep so got up and was thinking about your daughter so decided to do a word search. It's mustard packs. I remember hearing stories about it during the flu epidemics. I was amazed at what I found. Do the web search. There are quite a few stories of how this simple remedy saved lives, when the doctor had given them up for dead. In one case, he had even written out the death certificate because he was certain the woman would die, but because he was so busy, he had to go on to other cases so didn't hang around to pronounce her dead. The woman's family applied the mustard packs throughout the night and by morning the fever had broken and, needless to say, she lived. Isn't it amazing? All these things are really very inexpensive but have had repeatedly good results. Take care. Give the little one a hug from an ol' softy for kids woman. Gail Gail, I have been using the CS/msm and already have TTO will give it a try. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Hi, I started nursing school, don't have time to read all messages, so only picked up the tail end of this. With pneumonia, the most important thing to do is to try and clear the lungs. So many questions become understandable if you can get ahold of a good, not too detailed physiology text or a good nursing text. Get a cheap stethoscope. Mine cost $8 and the main difference is that it doesn't block out sounds in the room as well as the expensive ones. Then you can hear for yourself what's going on with your daughter. Positional draining is effective. Hips and legs higher, when you are on your stomach and cough anything out. Twenty minutes/half hour often through the day. You can vibrate with your hand or a vibrator (gently) the part of the lung that is that is " clogged " or cup your had and gently percuss that part for a few minutes at a time throughout the day. Something to thin the mucous like an expectorant. I heard from a pneumonia patient that mucomist is n-acetylcysteine in breathable form. I haven't looked at this yet but had to laugh that it was an expensive prescription medication. I'll bet that mustard plaster is similar. All the sulfur stuff, including epsom salt baths, feed the ability to detox and would be good if you don't do too much all at once. Go slow here. My two favorite remedies that seem to never let me down is oil of oregano orally (hang on to the nearest counter from the kick from the taste). This seems to work like an antibiotic. The other is emergen-c. A gram of vitamin c, lots of electrolytes and some small levels of vitamins. All to feed the body's ability to cope. Emergen-c is nice because it's all in one and handy to use and relatively cheap. I use the basic one and sometimes rotate through the flavors with glucosamine and msm as a second package in the one drink. Pharmacologically, it is important to do these things often throughout the day. Just enough that the body can use at one time, then give more later. More than can be used at a time is just an added burden that uses up resources to dispose of it. Message: 6 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:22:21 -0000 From: " wanda85929 " <wanda85929@...> Subject: Re: ozonated Olive oil >> >>Hi Ron, >> >> Did you find a means to remove the oil from your daughter's lungs? >> If so, can you pass that info on? >> ****** >> nothing has changed as of yet. >> ****** >> >> ====================== > > Hi again, Ron. A few things come to mind that might help your daughter that is very inexpensive. Remember when Jim Lambert was having so much trouble with pneumonia. One of the things that he said helped him so much was tea tree oil. We were having a lot of trouble back then, too so I went to the health food store and got some. I would heat up a cup of water and add 4 or 5 drops of the tea tree oil to the cup of hot water and inhale the fumes from the steaming water. It is important to stress you only inhale the steam with the fumes of the oil, NOT the oil itself! You do that two or three times daily. It has a very strong order/fumes. I think it's important to get a quality oil for the best results. I did not. The guy at the health food store (when comparing oils) said they were the same thing just one is cheaper. But I can remember folks on the list saying to get a good quality oil. Even with the less expensive oil I used, it really help to open the sinusis. But I still think the neublizer with the MSM/CS mixture worked better for our chest problems we were having at the time. Perhaps if I had gotten the more expensive oil, it would have worked better. Others posted very good results with the better quality oil. So if you are going to give it a try and have the finances, I would go with the more expensive oil. Another thing that is suppose to help bust up congestion is garlic. With her being so young she might not want to eat the fresh garlic, but maybe she will. If not, even the capsules should help. And don't forget vitamin C. I'm serious. Hit the C, mega doses. Last but not least, maybe. I remember another home remedy from hearing old stories growing up. I couldn't sleep so got up and was thinking about your daughter so decided to do a word search. It's mustard packs. I remember hearing stories about it during the flu epidemics. I was amazed at what I found. Do the web search. There are quite a few stories of how this simple remedy saved lives, when the doctor had given them up for dead. In one case, he had even written out the death certificate because he was certain the woman would die, but because he was so busy, he had to go on to other cases so didn't hang around to pronounce her dead. The woman's family applied the mustard packs throughout the night and by morning the fever had broken and, needless to say, she lived. Isn't it amazing? All these things are really very inexpensive but have had repeatedly good results. Take care. Give the little one a hug from an ol' softy for kids woman. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Hi Ron, I wasn't going to give a full description of a Qigong method as there are so many versions but since has so kindly given you the details of her method, I thought a qigong method that I have heard of for clearing the lungs is a follows: (No personal experience with it though) Hold the hands above the head for ten minutes as often as possible during the day but a minimum of 3 times per day. A woman with her lungs full of ash from the California fires few years ago and ended up with asthma cleared her lungs of the ash and cured her asthma this way in about a week. Also, I would consult an acupuncturist to do moxha and cupping for her lungs. Again, ASAP. Good luck and give her my love! Best wishes and much love, Ken Ken Gullan Institute for Research Integration (IRI), San Diego, CA 92106-2424 IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with developmental difficulties. To contact me off-list use kengullan@... or call 619-222-1104 Re: ozonated Olive oil Hi, I started nursing school, don't have time to read all messages, so only picked up the tail end of this. With pneumonia, the most important thing to do is to try and clear the lungs. So many questions become understandable if you can get ahold of a good, not too detailed physiology text or a good nursing text. Get a cheap stethoscope. Mine cost $8 and the main difference is that it doesn't block out sounds in the room as well as the expensive ones. Then you can hear for yourself what's going on with your daughter. Positional draining is effective. Hips and legs higher, when you are on your stomach and cough anything out. Twenty minutes/half hour often through the day. You can vibrate with your hand or a vibrator (gently) the part of the lung that is that is " clogged " or cup your had and gently percuss that part for a few minutes at a time throughout the day. Something to thin the mucous like an expectorant. I heard from a pneumonia patient that mucomist is n-acetylcysteine in breathable form. I haven't looked at this yet but had to laugh that it was an expensive prescription medication. I'll bet that mustard plaster is similar. All the sulfur stuff, including epsom salt baths, feed the ability to detox and would be good if you don't do too much all at once. Go slow here. My two favorite remedies that seem to never let me down is oil of oregano orally (hang on to the nearest counter from the kick from the taste). This seems to work like an antibiotic. The other is emergen-c. A gram of vitamin c, lots of electrolytes and some small levels of vitamins. All to feed the body's ability to cope. Emergen-c is nice because it's all in one and handy to use and relatively cheap. I use the basic one and sometimes rotate through the flavors with glucosamine and msm as a second package in the one drink. Pharmacologically, it is important to do these things often throughout the day. Just enough that the body can use at one time, then give more later. More than can be used at a time is just an added burden that uses up resources to dispose of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 In a message dated 4/20/2006 8:14:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, romasstuff@... writes: if I should store it in a freezer or the fridge? Hi Roma, The information below is for use with a cold plasma ozone generator. To make the concentrated oil for 2 or 3 weeks, 24 hours a day, I think you would need a medical grade ozone generator used in a well ventilated area. From: http://educate-yourself.org/ozone/ If you have an ozone machine with a heavy duty air pump, you can make concentrated ozonated olive oil by bubbling ozone through olive oil for 2 or 3 or 4 weeks, 24 hours a day. I usually use a round fish bowl half filled with olive oil. At one point in the production process (after a few days), the viscosity of the olive oil will be such that you will get foaming for a while. Using the round fish bowl will cause the foam bubbles to climb up the inside of the fish bowl where its own weight will cause it to drop back into the main body of oil. It's the ideal shape to use to prevent foaming oil from going over the top of your container. I prefer to use a cold plasma ozone generator for all types of ozone applications. Cold plasma has zero nitrogen by-products (a potential drawback to corona discharge machines for internal applications. It's OK for external applications) and yet a very high output of ozone compared to UV, which has a substantially lower ozone output and lower electron spin velocity than cold plasma produced ozone. After placing it in a small jar, you stick it into the freezer for storage (always put it back into the freezer after use in order to retain the maximum potency of ozone). Ozonated Olive Oil You can ingest a teaspoon of ozonated olive oil once or twice a day and get a steady internal application of ozone. You can use any olive oil, but I prefer to use organic Extra Virgin Olive oil. I nearly fill an 8 0z. glass jar (with a screw on lid) with olive oil. You can bubble ozone through the oil for 60 minutes if you're using a 100-200mg ozone machine or 30 minutes if you have a 400 mg. ozone machine. After screwing on the lid, you can store it in the refrigerator for about 30 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Guy, what is a Bob Beck blood purifyer frequency treatment???? 8:>() Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Bring up your google brouser and insert - Bob Beck blood purifyer-, you will have all kinds of information on it. In short ,it is an instrument that delivers a small voltage and current at 4 Hz into your bloodstream,apparently purifying the blood of pathogens. Guy > > > Guy, what is a Bob Beck blood purifyer frequency treatment???? 8:>() > Steph > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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