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Have you tried putting something on her tummy when she sleeps like big stuff

toy or pillows. Or back support belt. I use it to try to prevent air build up

in my tummy if i use the in-ex or bi pap. Just might want to try till you get

the g tube...

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Hi Margaret,

Thanks for the encouragement regarding the money issues. I'm not going to

give up but often wonder if I am just talking to myself,LOL. I have so much

to do yet to prepare this child for adult life. If only the school would

cooperate and give him a real education life be so good.

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 9 DS/OCD ?

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sometimes knowing the money isnt that great,lol nthan isnt perfect with

money but can identify the different coins and dollars--not count yet--and

he figured out videogames take quarters, uuuuuuuuggggggghhhhhhhh!!! " erter

pllleeeeaaaase " cant take him to any kid restaurants anymore,lol. shawna.

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>

>

> Hi Margaret,

> Thanks for the encouragement regarding the money issues. I'm not going

to

> give up but often wonder if I am just talking to myself,LOL. I have so

much

> to do yet to prepare this child for adult life. If only the school would

> cooperate and give him a real education life be so good.

> Charlyne

> Mom to Zeb 9 DS/OCD ?

>

>

>

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In a message dated 12/15/2002 8:28:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,

mfroof@... writes:

> Happy Birthday, Zeb. Sorry I'm late with that!!! When was it?

>

Hi Margaret,

Thanks for Zeb's bd wishes but officially the big day is tomorrow. Today was

my day for reflection on the past 10 yrs. Zeb has taught me so much. I am

certainly a better person with him in my life although some days I forget

that.

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb almost 10 DS/OCD ?

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In a message dated 12/16/2002 9:15:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,

mfroof@... writes:

> ...prayers for your daughter and grand child. What's the background

> of the name....Emersyn. It's a pretty name...unique. Happy Birthday

> (again) Zeb!!!

Hi Margaret,

I picked up the two from the hospital today in a snowstorm. I wish I had a

great tale for the name but I don't. I am just not very traditional.

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 10 DS/OCD?

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Hi Margaret,

It think it's great that Gareth could figure out putting together the

birdhouse. I still have trouble with those kits. I also have no idea how to

use the scanner. I ask my big kids,LOL. Happy New Year.

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 10 DS/OCD ?

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In a message dated 12/30/2002 8:42:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,

mfroof@... writes:

> ...I am so sorry you have to resort to spying to

> find out what's going on in the classroom. What ever happened with the

> lawyer....did he take your money and run?

Hi Margaret,

The lawyer did get the independant ed consultant to monitor the entire

situation but she is around very little and always by appt. Her final report

was due long ago but she became ill. She did call me and apologize but it

wasn't her fault getting sick. I am having a team meeting with her on 1-15

and she will be giving them her report and suggestions. I have a PPT meeting

scheduled on 1-22 that I will ask the attorney to attend. I have to honestly

say he didn't do much but his presence was certainly a help. He is able to

stop the game playing at the meetings. The ed consultant did say that Zeb was

at a very difficult school and how I got him to fourth grade alone in a

inclusive setting was a feat in itself. She is very pro inclusive and teaches

classes for educators for the state in inclusive practices. I like her very

much but she is very careful in her words. I am not exactly sure I trust her

either. As far as school, I know that they are not following the behavioral

plan. Zeb bit the OT last week. Zeb has never bitten before. The central

office called the next day but had very few details to give me. I was told by

the teachers the day I picked Zeb up from school that he had bit the OT but

he was in art at the time and the teachers were not there. The aide had left

to get somehing out of the classroom so she didn't know exactly what had

happened. I was told that Zeb was put in a timeout room and isolated from his

classroom for the rest of the day by the teachers. The school at that point

had violated the behavioral plan. I did tell central office that I was aware

that the plan was not followed and I was told that they could alter it at

their discretion. A few of the kids did tell me exactly what had happened and

the events did match. The parents are upset that the kids have to watch Zeb

treated like a dog. The kids are upset watching what goes on. I have no

choice but to use surveillance. I don't know what else to do. Any

suggestions? I am not sure what the attorney can do about the school not

following the behavioral plan. I feel like the only mom that is in constant

battle with the school. Sorry this is so long.

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 10 DS/OCD ?

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my prayers for you and zeb, and that school turns around ASAP. shawna.

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> In a message dated 12/30/2002 8:42:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> mfroof@... writes:

>

>

> > ...I am so sorry you have to resort to spying to

> > find out what's going on in the classroom. What ever happened with the

> > lawyer....did he take your money and run?

>

> Hi Margaret,

> The lawyer did get the independant ed consultant to monitor the entire

> situation but she is around very little and always by appt. Her final

report

> was due long ago but she became ill. She did call me and apologize but it

> wasn't her fault getting sick. I am having a team meeting with her on 1-15

> and she will be giving them her report and suggestions. I have a PPT

meeting

> scheduled on 1-22 that I will ask the attorney to attend. I have to

honestly

> say he didn't do much but his presence was certainly a help. He is able to

> stop the game playing at the meetings. The ed consultant did say that Zeb

was

> at a very difficult school and how I got him to fourth grade alone in a

> inclusive setting was a feat in itself. She is very pro inclusive and

teaches

> classes for educators for the state in inclusive practices. I like her

very

> much but she is very careful in her words. I am not exactly sure I trust

her

> either. As far as school, I know that they are not following the

behavioral

> plan. Zeb bit the OT last week. Zeb has never bitten before. The central

> office called the next day but had very few details to give me. I was told

by

> the teachers the day I picked Zeb up from school that he had bit the OT

but

> he was in art at the time and the teachers were not there. The aide had

left

> to get somehing out of the classroom so she didn't know exactly what had

> happened. I was told that Zeb was put in a timeout room and isolated from

his

> classroom for the rest of the day by the teachers. The school at that

point

> had violated the behavioral plan. I did tell central office that I was

aware

> that the plan was not followed and I was told that they could alter it at

> their discretion. A few of the kids did tell me exactly what had happened

and

> the events did match. The parents are upset that the kids have to watch

Zeb

> treated like a dog. The kids are upset watching what goes on. I have no

> choice but to use surveillance. I don't know what else to do. Any

> suggestions? I am not sure what the attorney can do about the school not

> following the behavioral plan. I feel like the only mom that is in

constant

> battle with the school. Sorry this is so long.

> Charlyne

> Mom to Zeb 10 DS/OCD ?

>

>

>

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In a message dated 12/31/2002 7:49:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,

mfroof@... writes:

> Today I had to work and called home @10:00 to check on DH, and Gareth.

> As I have said in the past, Gareth does not like to talk on the phone.

> Well,

> it rang and rang and finally, Gareth says 'lo.' I say 'Hi' back and ask

> him 'what's going on and where's Dad.' " Dad out (side). (Every) thing

> fine. " CLICK. Nothing like short and to the point!!!

>

Hi Margaret,

Made my day, I love it!!!

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 10 DS/OCD ?

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Hi Margaret,

What a short cute conversation, love it too!

Irma

> In a message dated 12/31/2002 7:49:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> mfroof@A... writes:

>

>

> > Today I had to work and called home @10:00 to check on DH,

and Gareth.

> > As I have said in the past, Gareth does not like to talk on the

phone.

> > Well,

> > it rang and rang and finally, Gareth says 'lo.' I say 'Hi'

back and ask

> > him 'what's going on and where's Dad.' " Dad out (side). (Every)

thing

> > fine. " CLICK. Nothing like short and to the

point!!!

> >

>

> Hi Margaret,

> Made my day, I love it!!!

> Charlyne

> Mom to Zeb 10 DS/OCD ?

>

>

>

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how marvelous, i bet you were giddy the rest of yor day,lol. shawna

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> In a message dated 12/31/2002 7:49:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> mfroof@... writes:

>

>

> > Today I had to work and called home @10:00 to check on DH, and

Gareth.

> > As I have said in the past, Gareth does not like to talk on the phone.

> > Well,

> > it rang and rang and finally, Gareth says 'lo.' I say 'Hi' back and

ask

> > him 'what's going on and where's Dad.' " Dad out (side). (Every) thing

> > fine. " CLICK. Nothing like short and to the point!!!

> >

>

> Hi Margaret,

> Made my day, I love it!!!

> Charlyne

> Mom to Zeb 10 DS/OCD ?

>

>

>

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Hi Margaret,

I remember you telling me about your battle. I didn't actually know it was

about placement too. I think the fight is tough as IDEA has many gray areas

on LRE. It is much easier to have a child with DS that is very compliant and

goes with the flow. Zeb has quite a personality and can speak his mind,

sounds like his mom, LOL. Zeb's classmates are getting older, bolder and

wiser. They are used to Zeb's ways, knowing how and what upsets him. The

staff has to deal with the other students, not only Zeb, when they create

problems. The other students have actually become better people having Zeb

with them. It is the highlight of my day to watch these kids interact with

Zeb so wonderfully. They are setting the tone for their parents. It is the

one positive outcome that the district has observed and cannot deny.

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 10 DS/OCD ?

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Hi Margaret,

I remember you telling me about your battle. I didn't actually know it was

about placement too. I think the fight is tough as IDEA has many gray areas

on LRE. It is much easier to have a child with DS that is very compliant and

goes with the flow. Zeb has quite a personality and can speak his mind,

sounds like his mom, LOL. Zeb's classmates are getting older, bolder and

wiser. They are used to Zeb's ways, knowing how and what upsets him. The

staff has to deal with the other students, not only Zeb, when they create

problems. The other students have actually become better people having Zeb

with them. It is the highlight of my day to watch these kids interact with

Zeb so wonderfully. They are setting the tone for their parents. It is the

one positive outcome that the district has observed and cannot deny.

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 10 DS/OCD ?

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In a message dated 2/25/2003 4:49:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, mfroof@...

writes:

>

> Hi, Everyone....Charlyne...not that it will help you, but I will relish a

> nice glass of wine tonight on your behalf!!! Seriously, though, HSD

> called

> the cops on Gareth and had a cop come to the house to write up a report.

> Not

> a parent, mind you, but the school district. They were hell bent on

> getting

> him out of the classroom and into a life skills class. I asked them once

> what the difference would be if Gareth hit a 'normal' child in the reg.

> class

> as opposed to another spec.ed kid in the LS class. Why is it OK for the

> spec. ed kids to hit on each other but when a spec. ed kid hits a normal

> child, it's an incident report with suspension? They never answered me on

> that question!!! You can bet your last dollar, too, that there are NO

> reports

> of normal kids hitting other normal kids in school. That just doesn't

> happen

> these days!!! Our kids' behavior is under a microscope in so many schools

> that they fail to realize that a lot of their behaviors are what the

> 'normal'

> kids do....they are just watching and learning from their peers. It's like

> I

> said to the principal once...... " Hey, it's not like I have a water fountain

> in my house and we all stand in line and spit at each other. " Gareth

> learned

> that in school by watching NORMAL kids. His only guilt was the fact he

> didn't understand the concept of being sneaky and was caught by the aide

> and

> teacher.

>

Hi Margaret,

I agree. You are absolutely correct. The school didn't file anything that's

what annoyed the parent so much. I think we may do battle with her real soon.

I know she doesn't understand but she also doesn't want to understand either.

I am not surprised that the police came to your house. I actually think they

would have come here too if we didn't store the police race car. They race in

this town with proceeds going to the Jimmy Fund. We let them keep the car in

our yard. Most of the police know Zeb and our family. They happened to be

here when we got the call LOL. Drink the wine, it will do me good LOL

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 10 DS/OCD ?

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In a message dated 3/2/2003 8:39:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, mfroof@...

writes:

> ....If Zeb is getting worse on the meds. Talk to the

> neurologist NOW.....don't wait for the 4-6 weeks for it to " kick in. "

> There

> is no sense in making him miserable if the meds are making matters worse.

> Just remember, there are lots of meds and one will do it's job. You don't

> want him on something that makes behaviors worse. Call the Dr. and ask if

> you

> can add a low dose of Risperdal (.5 mg) in the AM for a week or two to see

> if there is a difference in the aggressiveness. Tell him you want to try it

> and will discuss the differences when you meet....seven months!!! Was he

> hitting before the Luvox? Maybe that's the wrong med for him.

Hi Margaret,

Zeb was given the meds by the neurologist. They upped the topomax not the

luvox. I am going to call on monday but if I ask for a specific med she may

think I am nuts myself,(almost). I am not going to make any impulsive

decisions about school now. If we continue to have problems the attorney may

go to due process and request a change of district. He has mentioned this to

me before. I am afraid to have the same problems elsewhere and having to

start all over in another town. I just have so much going on right now I have

no idea what to do. I see a child psychologist now but I really think we need

to see a psychiatrist. I will have to wait the 7 mos. for the first appt. I

will continue to see the psychologist until the appt. I don't have much

experience with these people. He sees only me and never asks to see Zeb. I

have brought him with me a few times but I'm not sure if this is normal. Zeb

can talk but he would never answer a w question. I barely get anything out of

him if there is a problem.

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 10 DS/OCD ?

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Hi Margaret,

Zeb is having his tonsils and adenoids out on Thursday. I am a wreck about

it. I can only imagine how you and Garreth feel. Thinking about you both. It

was -6 this am, where is spring?

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 10 DS/OCD ?

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In a message dated 3/11/2003 5:09:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, mfroof@...

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> Our only concern right now is

> how to knock him out. He was always able to do the breathing mask to go to

> sleep, and then, they would put in the IV. He's over the weight limit for

> the mask to knock him out. I told them Versed did nothing to him and he

> just

> laughed.

Hi Margaret,

Does the dr have any solutions to this problem? There must be some other

combo of drugs they could use? I would be so worried about Garreth not

feeling pain. I'm glad he does have some understanding about the surgery. I

pray that he has much needed relief from this. Keep us posted.

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb DS/OCD ?

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In a message dated 3/7/03 4:38:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, Duffey48@...

writes:

<< The thick hoary frost on the trees and the bushes, along with

> the sparkly, diamond snow covered landscape shining when the sun came up,

> was

> picture book perfect.

MARGARET!!!!!! Do you write novels?!?!?!? ;-)

>>

LOL Well, if you don't write them, you should! VERY descriptive, though a

sight I'm sick of myself. LOL Well, except the sun coming up part...looking

forward to that sight!

Gail :-)

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Oh Margaret -- What a laugh! I too have thought about putting mine up for

adoption. The only problem is I adopted him when he was a few days old!

Thanks for the laugh -- I needed that! ~Lynn

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Hi Margaret,

I hope the moves goes well and Garreth's leg is fine to start school. I have

never moved and would not have a clue where to start. You are brave.

Charlyne

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In a message dated 6/29/2003 10:27:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

mfroof@... writes:

> FWIW.....Gareth had surgery again last Thursday....the second

> time in less than 2 months.

Hi Margaret,

Poor Garreth, What surgery did he have? Did I miss a post. I hope he is brand

new after all of this.

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 10 DS/OCD ?

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In a message dated 6/30/2003 1:09:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,

charlyne1121@... writes:

> Hi Margaret,

> Poor Garreth, What surgery did he have? Did I miss a post. I hope he is

> brand

> new after all of this.

Yes Margaret!! Do fill us in, along with a new house update.

Donna

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In a message dated 7/1/2003 3:49:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mfroof@...

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>

> He had to go back into surgery for that stupid pilonidal cyst. That was the

> 6th time he's had surgery to correct it.

Hi Margaret,

Poor Garreth, I heard those are so painful!!!! I hurt just reading your post.

I'm praying he has a fast recovery and the best of health forever.

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 10 DS/OCD ?

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Hi Margaret,

What a great idea! Boy! I would jump at that if I were near. Love

the mini- private conference idea. Enjoy your new home and may

everything turn out well. Hope all is well with Gareth? What a busy

summer its been for you and the family.

Hugs!

Irma,14,DS/ASD

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