Re: Very confused. yeast culture showed negative. hum?

[Guest guest]

,

I am no expert on this but I do think that because you had been treating it

maybe the symptoms were resolved enough at the time of your visit and then the

culture did not go. As we previously discussed I had a similar issues twice when

I went to the doctor. Had a swab test completed for yeast and both times came up

negative then within 24-48 hours I had symptoms again. My doctor told me not to

use any products the next time I have symptoms come on...basically need to have

a full blown yeast infection before I go in to the doctor. I dont know if it is

the same when they grow the culture though.

>

> I waited one week to get the culture back from my doctor. She's a new one for

me. She is a RN that can prescribe medicines. We have a doctor shortage here.

> My male doctor gave me to her, because it was a female yeast issue, caused

by Septra. Waited for the results of the culture to come back. Finally, feeling

miserable i called them back. The receptionist tells me this new doctor sent me

a letter. The culture came back NEG. Dont understand this? They took the

culture when i was using the cream(clotrimazole). Which I am not a chemist, but

that didnt seem right to me. And the doctor said, Oh that doesnt matter.

> This doctor wont return my calls. She gave me three doses of the

diflucan, For three weeks. Plus nystatin ointment for the outside.

> my microbiologist friend told me to use the clotrimazole cream, not the

doctor. Nothing is working. It just keeps burning. the only thing that helped

alittle was the clotrimazole internal cream.

> For some reason the doctors do not want to presribe more anti fungals. I am

new to candida, am sure its still there and it is real.

> For homepathic, experimented with ACV, Yogurt, herbs, oil of oregeno, gse,

coconut oil and more. Probiotics. I'm trying.

> Heres my question? Would you guys *Trust* the culture taken while using

the clotrimazole? I dont? anyone have any thoughts? If? it is killed off, It

certainly is still on the skin.

> Should I treat myself, by buying my own anti fungals on line, or get a gyno

and switch doctors.

> Reason i went to a doctor was for antifungals, and help that way.

> Is this yeast THIS hard to kill?

> Also have tried doing nothing for awhile and that didnt work either. In

case it was skin irritation. ( nystatin seemed to irritate)

> I cant drive miles to get a naturopath, i go to the chiro 3 days a week,

have a boyfriend who just had a heart attack. My chiro is wonderful, but candida

is not his expertise. cindy

>

[Guest guest]

,

I am man but have a dauther and a mother. I can help you. Candida is an

intracellular pathogen, and when it penetrates the cells, you need a long term

antifugal treatment to eliminate your problem. What you have is a Chronic

Atrophic Erytomathous Vaginal Candidiasis. It doesn't show up in normal

cultures. If you want to be guided by the best medical authority in your

problem, you have to give a call to Dr. Marjorie Crandall ( 30 minutes/$ 30.00 )

She is going to guide you to the cure of your problem. Dr. Crandall is a top

researcher in yeast problems, specially in chronic vaginal yeast. I have helped

many women with this problems in the last 3 years.Don't delay it with MDs who

don't know what really is affecting you.

.

>

> I waited one week to get the culture back from my doctor. She's a new one for

me. She is a RN that can prescribe medicines. We have a doctor shortage here.

> My male doctor gave me to her, because it was a female yeast issue, caused

by Septra. Waited for the results of the culture to come back. Finally, feeling

miserable i called them back. The receptionist tells me this new doctor sent me

a letter. The culture came back NEG. Dont understand this? They took the

culture when i was using the cream(clotrimazole). Which I am not a chemist, but

that didnt seem right to me. And the doctor said, Oh that doesnt matter.

> This doctor wont return my calls. She gave me three doses of the

diflucan, For three weeks. Plus nystatin ointment for the outside.

> my microbiologist friend told me to use the clotrimazole cream, not the

doctor. Nothing is working. It just keeps burning. the only thing that helped

alittle was the clotrimazole internal cream.

> For some reason the doctors do not want to presribe more anti fungals. I am

new to candida, am sure its still there and it is real.

> For homepathic, experimented with ACV, Yogurt, herbs, oil of oregeno, gse,

coconut oil and more. Probiotics. I'm trying.

> Heres my question? Would you guys *Trust* the culture taken while using

the clotrimazole? I dont? anyone have any thoughts? If? it is killed off, It

certainly is still on the skin.

> Should I treat myself, by buying my own anti fungals on line, or get a gyno

and switch doctors.

> Reason i went to a doctor was for antifungals, and help that way.

> Is this yeast THIS hard to kill?

> Also have tried doing nothing for awhile and that didnt work either. In

case it was skin irritation. ( nystatin seemed to irritate)

> I cant drive miles to get a naturopath, i go to the chiro 3 days a week,

have a boyfriend who just had a heart attack. My chiro is wonderful, but candida

is not his expertise. cindy

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you ! I will check her out. I read your posts over to the other

candida board too. thanks!!! cindy

>

> ,

> I am man but have a dauther and a mother. I can help you. Candida is an

intracellular pathogen, and when it penetrates the cells, you need a long term

antifugal treatment to eliminate your problem. What you have is a Chronic

Atrophic Erytomathous Vaginal Candidiasis. It doesn't show up in normal

cultures. If you want to be guided by the best medical authority in your

problem, you have to give a call to Dr. Marjorie Crandall ( 30 minutes/$ 30.00 )

She is going to guide you to the cure of your problem. Dr. Crandall is a top

researcher in yeast problems, specially in chronic vaginal yeast. I have helped

many women with this problems in the last 3 years.Don't delay it with MDs who

don't know what really is affecting you.

> .

>

>

>

> >

> > I waited one week to get the culture back from my doctor. She's a new one

for me. She is a RN that can prescribe medicines. We have a doctor shortage

here.

> > My male doctor gave me to her, because it was a female yeast issue, caused

by Septra. Waited for the results of the culture to come back. Finally, feeling

miserable i called them back. The receptionist tells me this new doctor sent me

a letter. The culture came back NEG. Dont understand this? They took the

culture when i was using the cream(clotrimazole). Which I am not a chemist, but

that didnt seem right to me. And the doctor said, Oh that doesnt matter.

> > This doctor wont return my calls. She gave me three doses of the

diflucan, For three weeks. Plus nystatin ointment for the outside.

> > my microbiologist friend told me to use the clotrimazole cream, not the

doctor. Nothing is working. It just keeps burning. the only thing that helped

alittle was the clotrimazole internal cream.

> > For some reason the doctors do not want to presribe more anti fungals. I

am new to candida, am sure its still there and it is real.

> > For homepathic, experimented with ACV, Yogurt, herbs, oil of oregeno,

gse, coconut oil and more. Probiotics. I'm trying.

> > Heres my question? Would you guys *Trust* the culture taken while using

the clotrimazole? I dont? anyone have any thoughts? If? it is killed off, It

certainly is still on the skin.

> > Should I treat myself, by buying my own anti fungals on line, or get a

gyno and switch doctors.

> > Reason i went to a doctor was for antifungals, and help that way.

> > Is this yeast THIS hard to kill?

> > Also have tried doing nothing for awhile and that didnt work either. In

case it was skin irritation. ( nystatin seemed to irritate)

> > I cant drive miles to get a naturopath, i go to the chiro 3 days a

week, have a boyfriend who just had a heart attack. My chiro is wonderful, but

candida is not his expertise. cindy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

It is becoming very clear this person named, , is an agent of the

pharmaceitical and medical district. 's limited knowledge of the human body

is evident from statements from below like, " The intestinal lining is a one way

road, meaning that everything you get direct in your bloodstream has limited

effect in the gut. " this is old out dated science from the medical community

data from over 20 years ago.

Every part of our body is connected to every other part of our body.

Pharmaceutical antibiotics and anti-fungals are poison which lead ultimately to

Serum Sickness, heavy metal toxicity and immune system break down which is at

the root of almost all the symptoms of candidiasis.

I will be sharing more in the near future on this topic.

I have been some what overwhelmed with new data these last few months and

putting it all together has been very time consuming.

In regards to vaginal yeast infection, it is directly related to the GI tract

health. When the immunity is broke down systemically, the pathways for

pathogenic out breaks can come from several origins; the sinuses & upper

respiratory, eyes, skin, anus or vagina.

There is a new book out " ICD-999 " by Jordan which explains alot of this.

It was very difficult to acquire in this country, but just google it or search.

It is out there, I found it, so can you.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

www.bodyelectrician.com

________________________________

From: grasshopperx_10 <woody1014@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 10:18:31 AM

Subject: Re: Very confused. yeast culture showed negative. hum?

Thank you ! I will check her out. I read your posts over to the other

candida board too. thanks!!! cindy

>

> ,

> I am man but have a dauther and a mother. I can help you. Candida is an

>intracellular pathogen, and when it penetrates the cells, you need a long term

>antifugal treatment to eliminate your problem. What you have is a Chronic

>Atrophic Erytomathous Vaginal Candidiasis. It doesn't show up in normal

>cultures. If you want to be guided by the best medical authority in your

>problem, you have to give a call to Dr. Marjorie Crandall ( 30 minutes/$ 30.00

)

>She is going to guide you to the cure of your problem. Dr. Crandall is a top

>researcher in yeast problems, specially in chronic vaginal yeast. I have helped

>many women with this problems in the last 3 years.Don't delay it with MDs who

>don't know what really is affecting you.

> .

>

>

>

> >

> > I waited one week to get the culture back from my doctor. She's a new one

for

>me. She is a RN that can prescribe medicines. We have a doctor shortage here.

>

> > My male doctor gave me to her, because it was a female yeast issue, caused

>by Septra. Waited for the results of the culture to come back. Finally,

feeling

>miserable i called them back. The receptionist tells me this new doctor sent me

>a letter. The culture came back NEG. Dont understand this? They took the

>culture when i was using the cream(clotrimazole). Which I am not a chemist, but

>that didnt seem right to me. And the doctor said, Oh that doesnt matter.

>

> > This doctor wont return my calls. She gave me three doses of the

>diflucan, For three weeks. Plus nystatin ointment for the outside.

> > my microbiologist friend told me to use the clotrimazole cream, not the

>doctor. Nothing is working. It just keeps burning. the only thing that helped

>alittle was the clotrimazole internal cream.

> > For some reason the doctors do not want to presribe more anti fungals. I

>am new to candida, am sure its still there and it is real.

> > For homepathic, experimented with ACV, Yogurt, herbs, oil of oregeno,

gse,

>coconut oil and more. Probiotics. I'm trying.

> > Heres my question? Would you guys *Trust* the culture taken while using

>the clotrimazole? I dont? anyone have any thoughts? If? it is killed off, It

>certainly is still on the skin.

> > Should I treat myself, by buying my own anti fungals on line, or get a

>gyno and switch doctors.

> > Reason i went to a doctor was for antifungals, and help that way.

> > Is this yeast THIS hard to kill?

> > Also have tried doing nothing for awhile and that didnt work either. In

>case it was skin irritation. ( nystatin seemed to irritate)

>

> > I cant drive miles to get a naturopath, i go to the chiro 3 days a

week,

>have a boyfriend who just had a heart attack. My chiro is wonderful, but

candida

>is not his expertise. cindy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You've made your point Will. Be careful of put downs because they reflect

mostly on you.

Many of us appreciate for his dedication to this subject, and the fact

that he shares willingly what he knows without claiming to be an expert.

's explanation was just what the other person needed to help her understand

why something might not work even though " technically " it wasn't perfect.

Joan

candidiasis

From: wilspencer@...

Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 07:58:28 -0800

Subject: Re: Re: Very confused. yeast culture showed negative.

hum?

It is becoming very clear this person named, , is an agent of the

pharmaceitical and medical district. 's limited knowledge of the human body

is evident from statements from below like, " The intestinal lining is a one way

road, meaning that everything you get direct in your bloodstream has limited

effect in the gut. " this is old out dated science from the medical community

data from over 20 years ago.

Every part of our body is connected to every other part of our body.

Pharmaceutical antibiotics and anti-fungals are poison which lead ultimately to

Serum Sickness, heavy metal toxicity and immune system break down which is at

the root of almost all the symptoms of candidiasis.

I will be sharing more in the near future on this topic.

I have been some what overwhelmed with new data these last few months and

putting it all together has been very time consuming.

In regards to vaginal yeast infection, it is directly related to the GI tract

health. When the immunity is broke down systemically, the pathways for

pathogenic out breaks can come from several origins; the sinuses & upper

respiratory, eyes, skin, anus or vagina.

There is a new book out " ICD-999 " by Jordan which explains alot of this.

It was very difficult to acquire in this country, but just google it or search.

It is out there, I found it, so can you.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

www.bodyelectrician.com

________________________________

From: grasshopperx_10 <woody1014@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 10:18:31 AM

Subject: Re: Very confused. yeast culture showed negative. hum?

Thank you ! I will check her out. I read your posts over to the other

candida board too. thanks!!! cindy

>

> ,

> I am man but have a dauther and a mother. I can help you. Candida is an

>intracellular pathogen, and when it penetrates the cells, you need a long term

>antifugal treatment to eliminate your problem. What you have is a Chronic

>Atrophic Erytomathous Vaginal Candidiasis. It doesn't show up in normal

>cultures. If you want to be guided by the best medical authority in your

>problem, you have to give a call to Dr. Marjorie Crandall ( 30 minutes/$ 30.00

)

>She is going to guide you to the cure of your problem. Dr. Crandall is a top

>researcher in yeast problems, specially in chronic vaginal yeast. I have helped

>many women with this problems in the last 3 years.Don't delay it with MDs who

>don't know what really is affecting you.

> .

>

>

>

> >

> > I waited one week to get the culture back from my doctor. She's a new one

for

>me. She is a RN that can prescribe medicines. We have a doctor shortage here.

>

> > My male doctor gave me to her, because it was a female yeast issue, caused

>by Septra. Waited for the results of the culture to come back. Finally,

feeling

>miserable i called them back. The receptionist tells me this new doctor sent me

>a letter. The culture came back NEG. Dont understand this? They took the

>culture when i was using the cream(clotrimazole). Which I am not a chemist, but

>that didnt seem right to me. And the doctor said, Oh that doesnt matter.

>

> > This doctor wont return my calls. She gave me three doses of the

>diflucan, For three weeks. Plus nystatin ointment for the outside.

> > my microbiologist friend told me to use the clotrimazole cream, not the

>doctor. Nothing is working. It just keeps burning. the only thing that helped

>alittle was the clotrimazole internal cream.

> > For some reason the doctors do not want to presribe more anti fungals. I

>am new to candida, am sure its still there and it is real.

> > For homepathic, experimented with ACV, Yogurt, herbs, oil of oregeno,

gse,

>coconut oil and more. Probiotics. I'm trying.

> > Heres my question? Would you guys *Trust* the culture taken while using

>the clotrimazole? I dont? anyone have any thoughts? If? it is killed off, It

>certainly is still on the skin.

> > Should I treat myself, by buying my own anti fungals on line, or get a

>gyno and switch doctors.

> > Reason i went to a doctor was for antifungals, and help that way.

> > Is this yeast THIS hard to kill?

> > Also have tried doing nothing for awhile and that didnt work either. In

>case it was skin irritation. ( nystatin seemed to irritate)

>

> > I cant drive miles to get a naturopath, i go to the chiro 3 days a

week,

>have a boyfriend who just had a heart attack. My chiro is wonderful, but

candida

>is not his expertise. cindy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Joan, for keeping me on my toes.

I just get wound tight when people plug the mediSin establishment, specially on

the candidiasis issue. The biggest offender of the human body is allopathic

medicine. They are great mechanics but really have no clue about the plumbing

and electrical side of the human body.

From personal experiences of the first 24 years of my life I was a very ill

victim of that system. I was run through the gauntlet and found no, I repeat NO

sustainable long term answers till I went out on my own and found what I share

with others today as a program that works and works very effectively and

sustainably.

So yes, I get very passionate about things sometimes, so please excuse me. This

whole candidiasis issue is not a mystery or hard to heal from and I am in the

process of putting it all down in an easy to understand format so this group

will KNOW where I am coming from. You can go into the files of this group and

read part of my manuscript to get a primer.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

www.bodyelectrician.com

________________________________

From: Joan Dwyer <rosegardenstudio@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Sun, November 28, 2010 11:13:51 AM

Subject: RE: Re: Very confused. yeast culture showed negative.

hum?

You've made your point Will. Be careful of put downs because they reflect

mostly on you.

Many of us appreciate for his dedication to this subject, and the fact

that he shares willingly what he knows without claiming to be an expert.

's explanation was just what the other person needed to help her understand

why something might not work even though " technically " it wasn't perfect.

Joan

candidiasis

From: wilspencer@...

Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 07:58:28 -0800

Subject: Re: Re: Very confused. yeast culture showed negative.

hum?

It is becoming very clear this person named, , is an agent of the

pharmaceitical and medical district. 's limited knowledge of the human body

is evident from statements from below like, " The intestinal lining is a one way

road, meaning that everything you get direct in your bloodstream has limited

effect in the gut. " this is old out dated science from the medical community

data from over 20 years ago.

Every part of our body is connected to every other part of our body.

Pharmaceutical antibiotics and anti-fungals are poison which lead ultimately to

Serum Sickness, heavy metal toxicity and immune system break down which is at

the root of almost all the symptoms of candidiasis.

I will be sharing more in the near future on this topic.

I have been some what overwhelmed with new data these last few months and

putting it all together has been very time consuming.

In regards to vaginal yeast infection, it is directly related to the GI tract

health. When the immunity is broke down systemically, the pathways for

pathogenic out breaks can come from several origins; the sinuses & upper

respiratory, eyes, skin, anus or vagina.

There is a new book out " ICD-999 " by Jordan which explains alot of this.

It was very difficult to acquire in this country, but just google it or search.

It is out there, I found it, so can you.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

www.bodyelectrician.com

________________________________

From: grasshopperx_10 <woody1014@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 10:18:31 AM

Subject: Re: Very confused. yeast culture showed negative. hum?

Thank you ! I will check her out. I read your posts over to the other

candida board too. thanks!!! cindy

>

> ,

> I am man but have a dauther and a mother. I can help you. Candida is an

>intracellular pathogen, and when it penetrates the cells, you need a long term

>antifugal treatment to eliminate your problem. What you have is a Chronic

>Atrophic Erytomathous Vaginal Candidiasis. It doesn't show up in normal

>cultures. If you want to be guided by the best medical authority in your

>problem, you have to give a call to Dr. Marjorie Crandall ( 30 minutes/$ 30.00

)

>

>She is going to guide you to the cure of your problem. Dr. Crandall is a top

>researcher in yeast problems, specially in chronic vaginal yeast. I have helped

>many women with this problems in the last 3 years.Don't delay it with MDs who

>don't know what really is affecting you.

> .

>

>

>

> >

> > I waited one week to get the culture back from my doctor. She's a new one

for

>

>me. She is a RN that can prescribe medicines. We have a doctor shortage here.

>

> > My male doctor gave me to her, because it was a female yeast issue, caused

>by Septra. Waited for the results of the culture to come back. Finally,

feeling

>

>miserable i called them back. The receptionist tells me this new doctor sent me

>a letter. The culture came back NEG. Dont understand this? They took the

>culture when i was using the cream(clotrimazole). Which I am not a chemist, but

>that didnt seem right to me. And the doctor said, Oh that doesnt matter.

>

> > This doctor wont return my calls. She gave me three doses of the

>diflucan, For three weeks. Plus nystatin ointment for the outside.

> > my microbiologist friend told me to use the clotrimazole cream, not the

>doctor. Nothing is working. It just keeps burning. the only thing that helped

>alittle was the clotrimazole internal cream.

> > For some reason the doctors do not want to presribe more anti fungals. I

>am new to candida, am sure its still there and it is real.

> > For homepathic, experimented with ACV, Yogurt, herbs, oil of oregeno,

gse,

>

>coconut oil and more. Probiotics. I'm trying.

> > Heres my question? Would you guys *Trust* the culture taken while using

>the clotrimazole? I dont? anyone have any thoughts? If? it is killed off, It

>certainly is still on the skin.

> > Should I treat myself, by buying my own anti fungals on line, or get a

>gyno and switch doctors.

> > Reason i went to a doctor was for antifungals, and help that way.

> > Is this yeast THIS hard to kill?

> > Also have tried doing nothing for awhile and that didnt work either. In

>case it was skin irritation. ( nystatin seemed to irritate)

>

> > I cant drive miles to get a naturopath, i go to the chiro 3 days a

week,

>

>have a boyfriend who just had a heart attack. My chiro is wonderful, but

candida

>

>is not his expertise. cindy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Wil,

That is not true regarding . On Curezone, he is a staunch proponent for

confronting folks on the forum when it seems there is a hidden agenda. He has

been one of the great helpers for people and does so with sincerity and honesty.

(and, without a hidden agenda). We all need to be careful before we throw

stones as all of our intentions can be called into question.

He has his perspective regarding the body, and you have yours. I believe there

are 'some truths' in both your and his perspective.

No harm intended, but I know that what you speak about is not true and had

to put in my 2 cents.

Kind Regards,

Carolyn

> > >

> > > I waited one week to get the culture back from my doctor. She's a new one

for

> >me. She is a RN that can prescribe medicines. We have a doctor shortage here.

> >

> > > My male doctor gave me to her, because it was a female yeast issue,

caused

> >by Septra. Waited for the results of the culture to come back. Finally,

feeling

> >miserable i called them back. The receptionist tells me this new doctor sent

me

> >a letter. The culture came back NEG. Dont understand this? They took the

> >culture when i was using the cream(clotrimazole). Which I am not a chemist,

but

> >that didnt seem right to me. And the doctor said, Oh that doesnt matter.

> >

> > > This doctor wont return my calls. She gave me three doses of the

> >diflucan, For three weeks. Plus nystatin ointment for the outside.

> > > my microbiologist friend told me to use the clotrimazole cream, not the

> >doctor. Nothing is working. It just keeps burning. the only thing that helped

> >alittle was the clotrimazole internal cream.

> > > For some reason the doctors do not want to presribe more anti fungals.

I

> >am new to candida, am sure its still there and it is real.

> > > For homepathic, experimented with ACV, Yogurt, herbs, oil of oregeno,

gse,

> >coconut oil and more. Probiotics. I'm trying.

> > > Heres my question? Would you guys *Trust* the culture taken while

using

> >the clotrimazole? I dont? anyone have any thoughts? If? it is killed off, It

> >certainly is still on the skin.

> > > Should I treat myself, by buying my own anti fungals on line, or get a

> >gyno and switch doctors.

> > > Reason i went to a doctor was for antifungals, and help that way.

> > > Is this yeast THIS hard to kill?

> > > Also have tried doing nothing for awhile and that didnt work either. In

> >case it was skin irritation. ( nystatin seemed to irritate)

> >

> > > I cant drive miles to get a naturopath, i go to the chiro 3 days a

week,

> >have a boyfriend who just had a heart attack. My chiro is wonderful, but

candida

> >is not his expertise. cindy

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wil,

I wouldn't put all allopaths in one basket that has the name: " worthless and not

a clue " . My doctor is a medical physician that has a great understanding

holistically as to how the body operates. I would put her against in ND in the

country.

So, I think with any approach, you have to assess the practitioner in terms of

how he or she works with you and your healing approach. I am very pleased with

my progress and my physician.

The greatest gift anyone can give another in terms of advice is: " Be your own

health advocate. Do not depend on the forums, the ND, the Allopaths, or any

other group to be your advocate. Take all of the information that you can find,

and by all means use discernment. Do not get caught in the cross-fire between

the Medicine Model and the Alternative Health Model. There is good in both...use

what you can and discard what you can't. Find a sacred, healing space within

your human space, and allow it to guide you in the direction of balance. Healing

can be achieved without any external modalities. The catalyst can be a Reiki

healer, a Naturopath, an Allopath, or just a person that is Spiritually attuned.

The real healing takes place within " .

Just my thoughts.

Carolyn

>

> > >

>

> > > I waited one week to get the culture back from my doctor. She's a new one

for

> >

>

> >me. She is a RN that can prescribe medicines. We have a doctor shortage here.

>

> >

>

> > > My male doctor gave me to her, because it was a female yeast issue,

caused

>

>

> >by Septra. Waited for the results of the culture to come back. Finally,

feeling

> >

>

> >miserable i called them back. The receptionist tells me this new doctor sent

me

>

>

> >a letter. The culture came back NEG. Dont understand this? They took the

>

> >culture when i was using the cream(clotrimazole). Which I am not a chemist,

but

>

>

> >that didnt seem right to me. And the doctor said, Oh that doesnt matter.

>

> >

>

> > > This doctor wont return my calls. She gave me three doses of the

>

> >diflucan, For three weeks. Plus nystatin ointment for the outside.

>

> > > my microbiologist friend told me to use the clotrimazole cream, not the

>

> >doctor. Nothing is working. It just keeps burning. the only thing that helped

>

> >alittle was the clotrimazole internal cream.

>

> > > For some reason the doctors do not want to presribe more anti fungals.

I

>

> >am new to candida, am sure its still there and it is real.

>

> > > For homepathic, experimented with ACV, Yogurt, herbs, oil of oregeno,

gse,

> >

>

> >coconut oil and more. Probiotics. I'm trying.

>

> > > Heres my question? Would you guys *Trust* the culture taken while

using

>

> >the clotrimazole? I dont? anyone have any thoughts? If? it is killed off, It

>

> >certainly is still on the skin.

>

> > > Should I treat myself, by buying my own anti fungals on line, or get a

>

> >gyno and switch doctors.

>

> > > Reason i went to a doctor was for antifungals, and help that way.

>

> > > Is this yeast THIS hard to kill?

>

> > > Also have tried doing nothing for awhile and that didnt work either. In

>

> >case it was skin irritation. ( nystatin seemed to irritate)

>

> >

>

> > > I cant drive miles to get a naturopath, i go to the chiro 3 days a

week,

> >

>

> >have a boyfriend who just had a heart attack. My chiro is wonderful, but

candida

> >

>

> >is not his expertise. cindy

>

> > >

>

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't think Wil meant to make a put-down at ALL- I think he hit the nail on

the head- And that he is aching for the rest of us that he sees reaching out

for help. More medication is rarely the answer to these problems- Why do we, as

man, think we have all the answers, when God has already provided them? We need

to get back to basics and back to real health.

He quoted , and from everything that I have studied the quote from

seems far off. Wil is trying to help, he's eager to share the truth with those

desperate enough to hear and ... He actually seems to know an enormous amount

about it-

I pray everyone is able to filter the Truth, and that It will be made known to

us all. Here's my question to all: " What got us all sick in the first place? "

> > >

> > > I waited one week to get the culture back from my doctor. She's a new one

for

> >me. She is a RN that can prescribe medicines. We have a doctor shortage here.

> >

> > > My male doctor gave me to her, because it was a female yeast issue,

caused

> >by Septra. Waited for the results of the culture to come back. Finally,

feeling

> >miserable i called them back. The receptionist tells me this new doctor sent

me

> >a letter. The culture came back NEG. Dont understand this? They took the

> >culture when i was using the cream(clotrimazole). Which I am not a chemist,

but

> >that didnt seem right to me. And the doctor said, Oh that doesnt matter.

> >

> > > This doctor wont return my calls. She gave me three doses of the

> >diflucan, For three weeks. Plus nystatin ointment for the outside.

> > > my microbiologist friend told me to use the clotrimazole cream, not the

> >doctor. Nothing is working. It just keeps burning. the only thing that helped

> >alittle was the clotrimazole internal cream.

> > > For some reason the doctors do not want to presribe more anti fungals.

I

> >am new to candida, am sure its still there and it is real.

> > > For homepathic, experimented with ACV, Yogurt, herbs, oil of oregeno,

gse,

> >coconut oil and more. Probiotics. I'm trying.

> > > Heres my question? Would you guys *Trust* the culture taken while

using

> >the clotrimazole? I dont? anyone have any thoughts? If? it is killed off, It

> >certainly is still on the skin.

> > > Should I treat myself, by buying my own anti fungals on line, or get a

> >gyno and switch doctors.

> > > Reason i went to a doctor was for antifungals, and help that way.

> > > Is this yeast THIS hard to kill?

> > > Also have tried doing nothing for awhile and that didnt work either. In

> >case it was skin irritation. ( nystatin seemed to irritate)

> >

> > > I cant drive miles to get a naturopath, i go to the chiro 3 days a

week,

> >have a boyfriend who just had a heart attack. My chiro is wonderful, but

candida

> >is not his expertise. cindy

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Kateri.

Candida over growths in the human body is really a natural survival mechanism.

Fungus is one of natures cleanup crews. Fungus or in most cases, Candida, uses

as it food source dead or dying tissue. Candida can not over grow for the most

part unless there is dead or dying tissue present in the human body.

For candida to be a systemic problem is a sign you have dead or dying tissue and

candida will go and find it and live in those area that have this dead or dying

tissue.

That is why diet is so important, but the popular so called candida diets do not

work for long as they are not giving the body food to heal. Just starving the

candida is not the answer.

The other important issue here is just trying to kill the fungus or candida with

either medicine or even natural remedies will not work as candida can go dormant

for years till it has the ideal environment to proliferate again. This is the

reason for my perceived negativity. Just attempting to kill the candida you are

killing yourself in the process leading to more sickness.

With the way I treat the candida, is to kill it with natural elements and feed

the body what is needed to heal at the same time.

I will be sharing more on this very soon.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

www.bodyelectrician.com

________________________________

From: fan <kateri222@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Mon, November 29, 2010 9:17:09 AM

Subject: Re: Very confused. yeast culture showed negative. hum?

I don't think Wil meant to make a put-down at ALL- I think he hit the nail on

the head- And that he is aching for the rest of us that he sees reaching out

for help. More medication is rarely the answer to these problems- Why do we, as

man, think we have all the answers, when God has already provided them? We need

to get back to basics and back to real health.

He quoted , and from everything that I have studied the quote from

seems far off. Wil is trying to help, he's eager to share the truth with those

desperate enough to hear and ... He actually seems to know an enormous amount

about it-

I pray everyone is able to filter the Truth, and that It will be made known to

us all. Here's my question to all: " What got us all sick in the first place? "

> > >

> > > I waited one week to get the culture back from my doctor. She's a new one

>for

>

> >me. She is a RN that can prescribe medicines. We have a doctor shortage here.

> >

> > > My male doctor gave me to her, because it was a female yeast issue,

>caused

>

> >by Septra. Waited for the results of the culture to come back. Finally,

>feeling

>

> >miserable i called them back. The receptionist tells me this new doctor sent

>me

>

> >a letter. The culture came back NEG. Dont understand this? They took the

> >culture when i was using the cream(clotrimazole). Which I am not a chemist,

>but

>

> >that didnt seem right to me. And the doctor said, Oh that doesnt matter.

> >

> > > This doctor wont return my calls. She gave me three doses of the

> >diflucan, For three weeks. Plus nystatin ointment for the outside.

> > > my microbiologist friend told me to use the clotrimazole cream, not the

> >doctor. Nothing is working. It just keeps burning. the only thing that helped

> >alittle was the clotrimazole internal cream.

> > > For some reason the doctors do not want to presribe more anti fungals.

I

>

> >am new to candida, am sure its still there and it is real.

> > > For homepathic, experimented with ACV, Yogurt, herbs, oil of oregeno,

>gse,

>

> >coconut oil and more. Probiotics. I'm trying.

> > > Heres my question? Would you guys *Trust* the culture taken while

using

>

> >the clotrimazole? I dont? anyone have any thoughts? If? it is killed off, It

> >certainly is still on the skin.

> > > Should I treat myself, by buying my own anti fungals on line, or get a

> >gyno and switch doctors.

> > > Reason i went to a doctor was for antifungals, and help that way.

> > > Is this yeast THIS hard to kill?

> > > Also have tried doing nothing for awhile and that didnt work either. In

> >case it was skin irritation. ( nystatin seemed to irritate)

> >

> > > I cant drive miles to get a naturopath, i go to the chiro 3 days a

>week,

>

> >have a boyfriend who just had a heart attack. My chiro is wonderful, but

>candida

>

> >is not his expertise. cindy

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Kateri,

Perception is everything, and it seemed like a put-down to me (and apparently

others as well). I have been on this forum long enough to know that there is a

contradiction when one says that healing should proceed from a calm and balanced

place in the body, but yet demonstrate behaviors that negatively impact other

folks.

If you know anything about , you will know that he has a kind and

compassionate heart. In addition, he does seek to share information that he has

gained through serious research. He is open enough to know that 'one size does

not fit all' and that Wil's approach may work for some, but there are folks that

would strongly disagree. There are times when one needs both Allopathic and

Naturopathic interventions. And, if anyone believes that the same combination of

these will work for each individual, then that goes against the basic tenets of

the " indivdualism to be found in organisms " .

I think Wil is trying to be helpful as well as . But, you can't knock the

other fellow who is also trying to assist just because the approach differs from

yours. What happens if that you start losing credibility as well. At least,

that's how it works for me.

This is a subject that probably needs to end, and as we heal, we definitely do

not need to be polarized. This forum has lived through enough turf battles that

evolved from " my approach is right and yours is wrong " . I say, 'use what works

for you', but do not knock what works for someone else. And, let's move on....

Carolyn

> > > >

> > > > I waited one week to get the culture back from my doctor. She's a new

one for

> > >me. She is a RN that can prescribe medicines. We have a doctor shortage

here.

> > >

> > > > My male doctor gave me to her, because it was a female yeast issue,

caused

> > >by Septra. Waited for the results of the culture to come back. Finally,

feeling

> > >miserable i called them back. The receptionist tells me this new doctor

sent me

> > >a letter. The culture came back NEG. Dont understand this? They took the

> > >culture when i was using the cream(clotrimazole). Which I am not a chemist,

but

> > >that didnt seem right to me. And the doctor said, Oh that doesnt matter.

> > >

> > > > This doctor wont return my calls. She gave me three doses of the

> > >diflucan, For three weeks. Plus nystatin ointment for the outside.

> > > > my microbiologist friend told me to use the clotrimazole cream, not

the

> > >doctor. Nothing is working. It just keeps burning. the only thing that

helped

> > >alittle was the clotrimazole internal cream.

> > > > For some reason the doctors do not want to presribe more anti

fungals. I

> > >am new to candida, am sure its still there and it is real.

> > > > For homepathic, experimented with ACV, Yogurt, herbs, oil of oregeno,

gse,

> > >coconut oil and more. Probiotics. I'm trying.

> > > > Heres my question? Would you guys *Trust* the culture taken while

using

> > >the clotrimazole? I dont? anyone have any thoughts? If? it is killed off,

It

> > >certainly is still on the skin.

> > > > Should I treat myself, by buying my own anti fungals on line, or get

a

> > >gyno and switch doctors.

> > > > Reason i went to a doctor was for antifungals, and help that way.

> > > > Is this yeast THIS hard to kill?

> > > > Also have tried doing nothing for awhile and that didnt work either.

In

> > >case it was skin irritation. ( nystatin seemed to irritate)

> > >

> > > > I cant drive miles to get a naturopath, i go to the chiro 3 days a

week,

> > >have a boyfriend who just had a heart attack. My chiro is wonderful, but

candida

> > >is not his expertise. cindy

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >