Guest guest Posted March 7, 2000 Report Share Posted March 7, 2000 In a message dated 3/7/00 11:50:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, onelist writes: << I take one pack now in the morning, first thing. So does that mean, to increase, to take two packs at that time or would it be better to split the dosage up, taking another pack later in the day? >> If I were you I would gradually increase the morning dose until you feel that you are getting as much benefit from it as possible. I say this because I have been taking ImmunoPro in the a.m. and having a good reaction to it. I think it is much more potent than 'Cal, from what I have read and from others' reports. Once you get your morning dose up to as much as two packs, then you can add another pack later in the day, as long as it doesn't keep you awake. It seems that whey is making some people sleepy, giving some of us a 'buzz' (me), and doing nothing for others (Steve). however, the point of whey is to kill off HHV6 or mycoplasma infection, so you need to keep at it for as long as possible. Just keep gradually increasing so you don't get the flushing or headaches too bad. I have been taking the 'Pro for two weeks now and feeling better with just one teaspoon per day. Another list member was kind enough to send some Imuplus to me, so eventually I will 'test' the 'Plus vs. the 'Pro and give the list a completely subjective report. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Many people find a decent dose of around 35 grams of whey and 6 oz or so of water to be filling, so they tend to take it once as a snack a bit before lunch to wash down some other supplements, which some consider to be a lot of material, and once maybe sometime after supper to avoid a bedtime snack. Because it's a protein snack, a whey shake will not interfere with HGH release after you fall asleep like carbs will. If the whey feels heavy in your stomach you can use also less but more often, and water it down a bit more. all good, Duncan > > Duncan or anyone, > I would like to know what times of the day people generally find best > to take their whey? And is it best to make it part of a meal or a meal > replacement or snack? I have always found it difficult to do two " doses " > of whey a day, because I don't find it an adequate meal replacement, but > taking it with even a small meal leaves me feeling quite overstuffed, > and a bit nauseous. Sometimes whey by itself between meals also makes me > feel queasy, not always, and more with some wheys than others, but all > I've tried have done this at times. > After all the years I've been trying to use whey, these are probably > stupid questions to be asking at this late date, but I just have never > worked out anything that seems to work for me. > thanks, > sol > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Some people just can't tolerate whey. You are not alone. greg > > Duncan or anyone, > I would like to know what times of the day people generally find best > to take their whey? And is it best to make it part of a meal or a meal > replacement or snack? I have always found it difficult to do two " doses " > of whey a day, because I don't find it an adequate meal replacement, but > taking it with even a small meal leaves me feeling quite overstuffed, > and a bit nauseous. Sometimes whey by itself between meals also makes me > feel queasy, not always, and more with some wheys than others, but all > I've tried have done this at times. > After all the years I've been trying to use whey, these are probably > stupid questions to be asking at this late date, but I just have never > worked out anything that seems to work for me. > thanks, > sol > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 douglas richey wrote: > Please tell me not only why you can't tolerate it [whey], but did you gain > weight while on it? Thanks Doug It gave me horrible gas and cramps and diarrhea. This may be due more to the inulin than the whey itself, EXCEPT it was worse with some brands even without inulin, and some give me actual long lasting nausea in addition. After using several different brands of whey, I can say with some confidence that problems not due to the inulin seem to be due to whey protein isolates. I had some Jarrow plain whey yesterday without any problem, it is an ultrafiltered concentrate, no an isolates. I also didn't add any inulin. I mixed it in about 4 oz orange juice, and added a big dose of probiotic. I need to do one more experiment with a whey from walmart, " super advanced whey protein " that does have whey isolates, and also contains " natural and artificial flavors " . From label ingredients there is nothing else that could be causing the GI problems in that whey. It has to be either the whey isolate or any one of dozens of substances that can hide in the " flavors " . FWIW, and it may be just me, because many here use it and do fine with it, but I had a horrible time with the NOW brand whey isolate too. Again the isolate is likely the problem. I couldn't tolerate the taste and it made me very nauseous. I had purchased 5 lbs of it, and it took me over a year to gag it all down. I was never so glad to see the end of anything. To further confuse me, just lately the symptoms I get have changed, little or no gas, no cramping. No bad extreme frequent bouts of diarrhea, instead I've had watery anal leaking. Fairly constant for 8 hours or so after a serving of whey, even with probiotics. sorry, gross, I know, but reality IS often gross, and I thought it might be of use to someone to tell it. sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 No, I did not gain weight. My symptoms are stuff like gas, dizziness, headache, low body temp, and worst of all, terrible mood swings. greg > > > Some people just can't tolerate whey. You are not alone. > > Thanks, I see you are another. > > sol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Greg, when you say gas does that mean bloating? I do not seem to get gas but bloating in alot of circumstances. Doug From: dreaminginnoother <dreaminginnoother@...> Subject: Re: how to take whey candidiasis Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 1:52 PM Â No, I did not gain weight. My symptoms are stuff like gas, dizziness, headache, low body temp, and worst of all, terrible mood swings. greg > > > Some people just can't tolerate whey. You are not alone. > > Thanks, I see you are another. > > sol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 An excellent post, personal experience researching whey. It is of great use to tell us about it. _____________________________________________ sol wrote: > douglas richey wrote: > >> Please tell me not only why you can't tolerate it [whey], but did you gain >> weight while on it? Thanks Doug >> > > It gave me horrible gas and cramps and diarrhea. This may be due more to > the inulin than the whey itself, EXCEPT it was worse with some brands > even without inulin, and some give me actual long lasting nausea in > addition. > > After using several different brands of whey, I can say with some > confidence that problems not due to the inulin seem to be due to whey > protein isolates. > > I had some Jarrow plain whey yesterday without any problem, it is an > ultrafiltered concentrate, no an isolates. I also didn't add any inulin. > I mixed it in about 4 oz orange juice, and added a big dose of probiotic. > > I need to do one more experiment with a whey from walmart, " super > advanced whey protein " that does have whey isolates, and also contains > " natural and artificial flavors " . From label ingredients there is > nothing else that could be causing the GI problems in that whey. It has > to be either the whey isolate or any one of dozens of substances that > can hide in the " flavors " . > > FWIW, and it may be just me, because many here use it and do fine with > it, but I had a horrible time with the NOW brand whey isolate too. Again > the isolate is likely the problem. I couldn't tolerate the taste and it > made me very nauseous. I had purchased 5 lbs of it, and it took me over > a year to gag it all down. I was never so glad to see the end of anything. > > To further confuse me, just lately the symptoms I get have changed, > little or no gas, no cramping. No bad extreme frequent bouts of > diarrhea, instead I've had watery anal leaking. Fairly constant for 8 > hours or so after a serving of whey, even with probiotics. > > sorry, gross, I know, but reality IS often gross, and I thought it might > be of use to someone to tell it. > sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Umm, well, maybe it causes bloating. It's hard to say. I am bloated like I got a baby at pretty much all times. I meant I actually notice more gas. And smelly gas, like milk gone bad. greg > > > > > > > Some people just can't tolerate whey. You are not alone. > > > > > > Thanks, I see you are another. > > > > > > sol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 MM wrote: > An excellent post, personal experience researching whey. > > It is of great use to tell us about it. > I am still continuing with whey experiments, and will post if I find a successful brand and routine with it. sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Wonder why main stream medicine does not tout this glutathione effect of whey protein. I have been following updates on health research for the last 10 years at least and have not heard this mentioned. I mentioned it to a weight lifter who managed a Vitamin Shoppe and although he takes it daily, did not know anything about the gluthiatone connection. Doug > An excellent post, personal experience researching whey. > > It is of great use to tell us about it. > I am still continuing with whey experiments, and will post if I find a successful brand and routine with it. sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 glutathione, precursor etc. are only used in science of advanced marketeering. ______________________________________ douglas richey wrote: > Wonder why main stream medicine does not tout this glutathione effect of whey protein. I have been following updates on health research for the last 10 years at least and have not heard this mentioned. I mentioned it to a weight lifter who managed a Vitamin Shoppe and although he takes it daily, did not know anything about the gluthiatone connection. Doug > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Good question; mainstream has had a prescription version of whey since about 1999, and glutathione is in about 55,000 study documents. Duncan > > > An excellent post, personal experience researching whey. > > > > > > It is of great use to tell us about it. > > > > > > > I am still continuing with whey experiments, and will post if I find a > > successful brand and routine with it. > > sol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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