young living essential oils

[Guest guest]

I has the same problem with my almost 12 yr old....he hates the smell!!!

ANN

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From: Coconut Oil

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Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:21 AM

Coconut Oil

Subject: Young Living Essential Oils

Ann,

Thanks for the info on the roll-ons. I have not tired them but will when

it's time to purchase again. They sound wonderfully easy to apply. I have a

17 year old adopted daughter with multiple health/mental issues and use the

oils frequently to mist her room because she will not allow me to use them

directly on her. " They stink " is her response. J

Ann wrote:

I use all those you mentioned....they calm my ASD kids right down....the new

roll-ons are fantastic and work even better....my dr who is an herbalist

says that they cross the blood/brain barrier and oxygenate the brain!!!

[Guest guest]

This looks like a multilevel marketing organization (pyramid marketing).

Without judging the quality of their products, I have a tendency to

avoid pyramid marketing schemes, if only because this usually entails

high overhead costs, as Joan pointed out. The distributors shell out

lots of money to buy the products wholesale, including

" business/marketing aids/kits " , and are forced to pass them on to the

final customers, or else get squeezed by what the pyramid owner charges

them.

Regarding essential oils, they have to be judged and assessed one by one

- each plant has various components and many properties ; sometimes, the

whole plant may be helpful/harmful in the context of given pathology ;

sometimes, just one component may be helpful/harmful, etc.

Remember that essential oils are powerful concentrates and have to be

used in very low dilutions (ie, by drops, not by spoons), and never

directly applied on a mucosa - so practical caution is advised.

> >

> > Is anyone familiar with or using the Young Living Essential Oils? I

am working with a Naturopath here in the Denver area who has introduced

me to these oils. Reading through the website it appears that there are

several oils that promote immunne health and one that includes Oregano

oil. I'm wondering if anyone has had success with these oils.

> > Jane

> >

>

[Guest guest]

At the risk of going off topic . . .

> From: " asfyso " <asfyso@...>

>

> This looks like a multilevel marketing organization (pyramid marketing).

> Without judging the quality of their products, I have a tendency to

> avoid pyramid marketing schemes, if only because this usually entails

> high overhead costs, as Joan pointed out. The distributors shell out

> lots of money to buy the products wholesale, including

> " business/marketing aids/kits " , and are forced to pass them on to the

> final customers, or else get squeezed by what the pyramid owner charges

> them.

Every product has its distribution costs and markups along the way, and

multi-level marketing is no exception. Those costs and markups are really

no different than what generates the final price of something found on a

retailer's store shelf. In fact, MLM can acutally have *lower* " overhead "

costs than traditional retailers.

The value and cost-effectiveness of any product, YLEO in this case, is

totally divorced from its distribution method -- it needs to be evaluated on

its own.

It is also helpful to distinguish MLM from " pyramid schemes " . In the

former, the bulk of the revenue to the distributors comes from the sale of

the product, and the process is totally legal. In the latter, the revenue

is disproportioinaltely dependent on entry fees and membership fees from

newcomers down the chain, and as such, are illegal in many jurisdictions.

Pyramid schemes are close cousins of Ponzi schemes because they both will

collapse when not enough new customers are available to support the early

adapters.

I did MLM 15 years ago. It was not for me because I am not a good

salesperson, but I had no objections to the product or the process.

[Guest guest]

Interesting conversation. Young Living Essential Oils do cost quite a bit

more, if I remember, than standard essential oils you buy off the shelf. While

it may not be a pyramid scheme exactly, I would guess that a practitioner who

gets a commission selling them, may (possibly even unconsciously) be more

interested in promoting them than something he/she gets no commission for. I

know some people do have quite a bit of faith in them, although I had no luck.

Joan

>

> At the risk of going off topic . . .

> > From: " asfyso " <asfyso@...>

> >

> > This looks like a multilevel marketing organization (pyramid marketing).

> > Without judging the quality of their products, I have a tendency to

> > avoid pyramid marketing schemes, if only because this usually entails

> > high overhead costs, as Joan pointed out. The distributors shell out

> > lots of money to buy the products wholesale, including

> > " business/marketing aids/kits " , and are forced to pass them on to the

> > final customers, or else get squeezed by what the pyramid owner charges

> > them.

>

> Every product has its distribution costs and markups along the way, and

> multi-level marketing is no exception. Those costs and markups are really

> no different than what generates the final price of something found on a

> retailer's store shelf. In fact, MLM can acutally have *lower* " overhead "

> costs than traditional retailers.

>

> The value and cost-effectiveness of any product, YLEO in this case, is

> totally divorced from its distribution method -- it needs to be evaluated on

> its own.

>

> It is also helpful to distinguish MLM from " pyramid schemes " . In the

> former, the bulk of the revenue to the distributors comes from the sale of

> the product, and the process is totally legal. In the latter, the revenue

> is disproportioinaltely dependent on entry fees and membership fees from

> newcomers down the chain, and as such, are illegal in many jurisdictions.

> Pyramid schemes are close cousins of Ponzi schemes because they both will

> collapse when not enough new customers are available to support the early

> adapters.

>

> I did MLM 15 years ago. It was not for me because I am not a good

> salesperson, but I had no objections to the product or the process.

>

[Guest guest]

Ken, thank you for your point of view. I do entirely agree with you on

the principle : MLM can work fine, but only if the distribution

overheads at every level of the pyramid remain honest, which depends a

lot on the scheme owner's personal inclination and business model.

Actually, the same could be said of any franchise system. You can tell

an honest franchise system from a " franchisee squeezer " almost outright

by looking at the fees and contractual obligations. The scope of the

claims surrounding the product is also a good indicator (the more

hype/miracle claims, etc about the product, the more cautious the

potential salesman/franchisee has to be before signing).

Culturally speaking, MLM is a well-known, well-accepted system in the

USA, and so you can find there some outrageous pyramid schemes, but also

many perfectly reasonable MLM organizations.

MLM, however, is quite non-traditional in France ; a salesperson trying

to find a niche would actually rather look for a good franchise, or else

remain in the traditional retail context.

Pyramid schemes are considered illegal, and there have been a few

pyramid schemes, including in the health sector, that paraded as legal

MLMs before they were busted by authorities in the past decades. This

is why I have a tendency to look very cautiously at MLMs, but I am ready

to admit it includes a cultural biais.

Anyway, the subject of the marketing of health products is not only

interesting, but also very relevant. Just look at the great expectations

Big Health puts in the flu vaccine market.

On that matter, we have yet to learn the composition of the vaccines,

which sound like kind of top secret right now. I am curious to see what

adjuvants they are incorporating to boost the immune response. I do hope

they avoid aluminium, which has been blamed in past polemics because of

its potential side-effects in some patients. That is why I usually try

to find a brand without, but I probably already have had my share of

aluminium in the past, without a single problem, so that may be just an

extra precaution for me.

There have been some press reports saying that the productivity of the

A/H1N1 industrial process some vaccine companies are using is low, so

this means they either have to lower the dose in each ampule to the

lowest level that still provides protection from the flu, or add some

wake-the-dead-strength adjuvants, or both. I guess we'll learn that when

we get the shot.

Don't mistake me, I understand good, powerful, safer adjuvants do exist,

but they happen to be rarely used, go figure why.

>

> At the risk of going off topic . . .

> > From: " asfyso " asfyso@...

> >

> > This looks like a multilevel marketing organization (pyramid

marketing).

> > Without judging the quality of their products, I have a tendency to

> > avoid pyramid marketing schemes, if only because this usually

entails

> > high overhead costs, as Joan pointed out. The distributors shell out

> > lots of money to buy the products wholesale, including

> > " business/marketing aids/kits " , and are forced to pass them on to

the

> > final customers, or else get squeezed by what the pyramid owner

charges

> > them.

>

> Every product has its distribution costs and markups along the way,

and

> multi-level marketing is no exception. Those costs and markups are

really

> no different than what generates the final price of something found on

a

> retailer's store shelf. In fact, MLM can acutally have *lower*

" overhead "

> costs than traditional retailers.

>

> The value and cost-effectiveness of any product, YLEO in this case, is

> totally divorced from its distribution method -- it needs to be

evaluated on

> its own.

>

> It is also helpful to distinguish MLM from " pyramid schemes " . In the

> former, the bulk of the revenue to the distributors comes from the

sale of

> the product, and the process is totally legal. In the latter, the

revenue

> is disproportioinaltely dependent on entry fees and membership fees

from

> newcomers down the chain, and as such, are illegal in many

jurisdictions.

> Pyramid schemes are close cousins of Ponzi schemes because they both

will

> collapse when not enough new customers are available to support the

early

> adapters.

>

> I did MLM 15 years ago. It was not for me because I am not a good

> salesperson, but I had no objections to the product or the process.

>

[Guest guest]

I was just about to purchase young living brand essential oils, and looked it

up, and there are a lot of concerns about the ligidity of this brand- can anyone

vouch either way? Fraud or fabulous?

[Guest guest]

Young Living oils as far as I know are very good.

I use and sell his brothers oils and I can tell you they are good for MRSA eye

problems and all else you can think of.

I am not sure about their price but I am sure that they are of a good quality.

Mine of course are better.!

>

> I was just about to purchase young living brand essential oils, and looked it

up, and there are a lot of concerns about the ligidity of this brand- can anyone

vouch either way? Fraud or fabulous?

>

[Guest guest]

Young living oils are ok. They have went the way of the other mass produced

products. They are over priced as most MLM products are. There are better oils

out there that are less expensive and purer.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

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From: fan <kateri222@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Wed, June 16, 2010 1:53:17 PM

Subject: young living essential oils

I was just about to purchase young living brand essential oils, and looked it

up, and there are a lot of concerns about the ligidity of this brand- can anyone

vouch either way? Fraud or fabulous?

[Guest guest]

They're good according to what my friends who have used them have told me. I

just ordered five oils yesterday from www.goodskinforlife.com. They are

certified organic and also have excellent results. They have the basics but not

as many as YL and no combinations. I really didn't know much about the oils at

all until I listened to a webinar recently. You may as well listen to it before

you order anything. There's a question near the end about certifications and

stuff.

http://onegroup.acrobat.com/p14102272/

Sharon

>

> I was just about to purchase young living brand essential oils, and looked it

up, and there are a lot of concerns about the ligidity of this brand- can anyone

vouch either way? Fraud or fabulous?

>