Guest guest Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 Doug, the Aborigines historically got 200-300 grams of inulin daily, and had to literally run down some of their game, and eastern Europeans got 20-30 grams daily, also without their tendons tightening up, so I think there must be another reason for your tightening tendons. Are you sedentary Doug? The best recourse for muscular and tendon issues is simply to exercise them. I'm dead serious; many people forget how important daily exercise is for the lymph too. all good, Duncan Crow > > Hi, this is Doug, I took a break to clear some issues. I have been taking inulin and am noticing my tendons are tightening up. It is frightening as a ruptured tendon is very serious business. In particular the ones in my lower legs and feet are very tight. Has anyone else experienced this? Would there be another effective prebiotic that would be different enough to not have the same side effects? Thanks, Doug > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 Duncan, thanks for the input. I am not sedentary so that is not applicable. So far I have been back off of the inulin for about 3 days and I think my tendon issue is getting better. I will wait a week and try the inulin again. If the tendons tighten up again I will know it is the inulin. While your theory is generally sound, any regime will be affected by individuals particular health syndromes. I think you might need to be cautious about a one-size fits all plan when many of us have so many individual health issues. Nevertheless I have give inulin a try over three periods and got the needed benefit without undue bloating. If it does not make my tendon's tighter I will be back on it again. One theory I was contemplating was whether the combo of regular epsom salt baths and some epsom salt laxative could be depleting my mag and cal which I take regularly. If I am depleted of those that might affect my tendons. Thanks Doug From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> Subject: Re: Could inulin affect one's tendons? candidiasis Date: Thursday, June 10, 2010, 4:37 PM Â Doug, the Aborigines historically got 200-300 grams of inulin daily, and had to literally run down some of their game, and eastern Europeans got 20-30 grams daily, also without their tendons tightening up, so I think there must be another reason for your tightening tendons. Are you sedentary Doug? The best recourse for muscular and tendon issues is simply to exercise them. I'm dead serious; many people forget how important daily exercise is for the lymph too. all good, Duncan Crow > > Hi, this is Doug, I took a break to clear some issues. I have been taking inulin and am noticing my tendons are tightening up. It is frightening as a ruptured tendon is very serious business. In particular the ones in my lower legs and feet are very tight. Has anyone else experienced this? Would there be another effective prebiotic that would be different enough to not have the same side effects? Thanks, Doug > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 I have seen this before. As your body looses its electrical vitality the muscles of the extremities begin to tighten and ones fertility diminishes. This has been the case in all long term animal research. I have seen cases of animals in Wisconsin that have lost the ability to reproduce and their muscles have tighten similar to lock jaw or tetanus to the extent of death. The online documents I have seen are no longer available to verify this for some reason. Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: dglsrichey <dglsrichey@...> candidiasis Sent: Sat, June 5, 2010 10:13:24 PM Subject: Could inulin affect one's tendons? Hi, this is Doug, I took a break to clear some issues. I have been taking inulin and am noticing my tendons are tightening up. It is frightening as a ruptured tendon is very serious business. In particular the ones in my lower legs and feet are very tight. Has anyone else experienced this? Would there be another effective prebiotic that would be different enough to not have the same side effects? Thanks, Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 I have a question Duncan. If the product inulin is a manufactured item, how would the Aborigines get it? They did not have manufacturing plants way back when. Inulin is an isolated element from food. It is not correct to say they consumed inulin then is it? It would be the same as saying, you are eating fructose, when you are really eating strawberries. Yes, there is fructose in strawberries, but it is in its whole food form. You are mixing up your descriptions and playing on words here. Whole food is whole food and isolated elements are isolated elements, eh. Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> candidiasis Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 4:37:08 PM Subject: Re: Could inulin affect one's tendons? Doug, the Aborigines historically got 200-300 grams of inulin daily, and had to literally run down some of their game, and eastern Europeans got 20-30 grams daily, also without their tendons tightening up, so I think there must be another reason for your tightening tendons. Are you sedentary Doug? The best recourse for muscular and tendon issues is simply to exercise them. I'm dead serious; many people forget how important daily exercise is for the lymph too. all good, Duncan Crow > > Hi, this is Doug, I took a break to clear some issues. I have been taking inulin and am noticing my tendons are tightening up. It is frightening as a ruptured tendon is very serious business. In particular the ones in my lower legs and feet are very tight. Has anyone else experienced this? Would there be another effective prebiotic that would be different enough to not have the same side effects? Thanks, Doug > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2010 Report Share Posted June 11, 2010 Wil, What you think of as a 'product' isn't much more a manufactured item than potato soup in its simplest form, but the Aborigines, like the Indians in North America, got inulin because it's the most common carbohydrate after starch. The cite is in Tungland's review posted on my inulin references page: http://tinyurl.com/inulin-references Most cultures it seems ate inulin foods baked, depending on the inulin food. These are not inulin either as such. Jeff Leach's site will help a lot. http://tinyurl.com/Jeff-Leach <http://paleobioticslab.com> What we do for health is try to replace some of the inulin missing in the modern foods, back into the food chain, without eating disgustng archaic foods like murnong, jerusalem artichoke and elecampagne, right? To some degree this has been successful, with bread, mayonnaise, pudding, yogurt containing inulin for health benefit, but we should still have a bit more, so benefiber from metamucil is a good option. all good, Duncan Crow > > > > Hi, this is Doug, I took a break to clear some issues. I have been taking inulin and am noticing my tendons are tightening up. It is frightening as a ruptured tendon is very serious business. In particular the ones in my lower legs and feet are very tight. Has anyone else experienced this? Would there be another effective prebiotic that would be different enough to not have the same side effects? Thanks, Doug > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2010 Report Share Posted June 11, 2010 Hi Doug I am Simon, some three years ago I took inulin for three months which seemed to produce the desired repopulation of good flora . During the same period I had a mild to strong pain in both feet tendons. Did not noticed it as an inuline undesired effect. Today reading your mail I connected my present inulin intake to a growing tightness in my left arm tendons which had to be surgically repaired after a very violent knife agression I suffered less than two years ago ( I am still in rehabilitation). I can link both experiences but have no explanation for it. I do exercise regularly and rebound from time to time. My disbiosis problem started when I was 11 yrs old and treated for three months with Cloramphenicol because of a strong tiphoidea infection . Now I am 60 and every time ( not very many indeed) I had to use antibiotics in my life I had to struggle side effects. Last time, because of the agression, I was put into a clinical coma for a week and " drown " with antibiotics and antimicotics. Fortunately a am aware that the central point is " correct food " together with oxygen( any: ozone, h2o2, oz oil ,(aerobics) and cocconut oil so it is not difficult to rebalance flora. Mag and Cal are part of my routine. Since I know it is difficult for me to manage a complete healing I treat myself creatively, enjoying food, rest, nature, relations and research activity. When I get,( rarely), stressed and I forget of myself I start slowly to produce a lot of candida sufferer's symptoms. Now I know how to deal with the whole question giving relaxation a first priority . Not difficult since I have chosen an autonomous lifestyle. Would very much like to get deeper into the inulin question. Thanks Simon Il giorno 10/giu/10, alle ore 22:37, Duncan Crow ha scritto: > Doug, the Aborigines historically got 200-300 grams of inulin > daily, and had to literally run down some of their game, and > eastern Europeans got 20-30 grams daily, also without their tendons > tightening up, so I think there must be another reason for your > tightening tendons. > > Are you sedentary Doug? The best recourse for muscular and tendon > issues is simply to exercise them. I'm dead serious; many people > forget how important daily exercise is for the lymph too. > > all good, > > Duncan Crow > > >> >> Hi, this is Doug, I took a break to clear some issues. I have been >> taking inulin and am noticing my tendons are tightening up. It is >> frightening as a ruptured tendon is very serious business. In >> particular the ones in my lower legs and feet are very tight. Has >> anyone else experienced this? Would there be another effective >> prebiotic that would be different enough to not have the same side >> effects? Thanks, Doug >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2010 Report Share Posted June 11, 2010 Simon, thanks for the input. Would you clarify the tendon issue more and mention whether you continued to take the inulin and still take it. My tendons are tight to begin with, either due to lyme disease,MS, or diabetic related. I also have a small amount of the duputyrens syndrome in hand and foot. All this I had prior to the inulin. If the inulin does make the tendon issue worse I have to be careful. I am going to be off of it one more week and then try again. Unfortunately due to a hand laceration I had stopped my epsom salt baths during the same period and cut back on some critical stretching. Those contributed to the tendon problem but the inulin still may be too much for me. I think I am going to kick into the poor man's ozone issue with the morning hy.peroxide trick Duncan mentioned. Take care , Doug From: Simon Goldstein <crlc@...> Subject: Re: Re: Could inulin affect one's tendons? candidiasis Date: Friday, June 11, 2010, 4:31 PM  Hi Doug I am Simon, some three years ago I took inulin for three months which seemed to produce the desired repopulation of good flora . During the same period I had a mild to strong pain in both feet tendons. Did not noticed it as an inuline undesired effect. Today reading your mail I connected my present inulin intake to a growing tightness in my left arm tendons which had to be surgically repaired after a very violent knife agression I suffered less than two years ago ( I am still in rehabilitation). I can link both experiences but have no explanation for it. I do exercise regularly and rebound from time to time. My disbiosis problem started when I was 11 yrs old and treated for three months with Cloramphenicol because of a strong tiphoidea infection . Now I am 60 and every time ( not very many indeed) I had to use antibiotics in my life I had to struggle side effects. Last time, because of the agression, I was put into a clinical coma for a week and " drown " with antibiotics and antimicotics. Fortunately a am aware that the central point is " correct food " together with oxygen( any: ozone, h2o2, oz oil ,(aerobics) and cocconut oil so it is not difficult to rebalance flora. Mag and Cal are part of my routine. Since I know it is difficult for me to manage a complete healing I treat myself creatively, enjoying food, rest, nature, relations and research activity. When I get,( rarely), stressed and I forget of myself I start slowly to produce a lot of candida sufferer's symptoms. Now I know how to deal with the whole question giving relaxation a first priority . Not difficult since I have chosen an autonomous lifestyle. Would very much like to get deeper into the inulin question. Thanks Simon Il giorno 10/giu/10, alle ore 22:37, Duncan Crow ha scritto: > Doug, the Aborigines historically got 200-300 grams of inulin > daily, and had to literally run down some of their game, and > eastern Europeans got 20-30 grams daily, also without their tendons > tightening up, so I think there must be another reason for your > tightening tendons. > > Are you sedentary Doug? The best recourse for muscular and tendon > issues is simply to exercise them. I'm dead serious; many people > forget how important daily exercise is for the lymph too. > > all good, > > Duncan Crow > > >> >> Hi, this is Doug, I took a break to clear some issues. I have been >> taking inulin and am noticing my tendons are tightening up. It is >> frightening as a ruptured tendon is very serious business. In >> particular the ones in my lower legs and feet are very tight. Has >> anyone else experienced this? Would there be another effective >> prebiotic that would be different enough to not have the same side >> effects? Thanks, Doug >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 Hi Simon, What is an autonomous lifestyle? Do you just mean that you don't do what everybody else does and follow directions blindly? Or something else? ________________________________ From: Simon Goldstein <crlc@...> candidiasis Sent: Fri, June 11, 2010 3:31:47 PM Subject: Re: Re: Could inulin affect one's tendons?  Hi Doug I am Simon, some three years ago I took inulin for three months which seemed to produce the desired repopulation of good flora . During the same period I had a mild to strong pain in both feet tendons. Did not noticed it as an inuline undesired effect. Today reading your mail I connected my present inulin intake to a growing tightness in my left arm tendons which had to be surgically repaired after a very violent knife agression I suffered less than two years ago ( I am still in rehabilitation). I can link both experiences but have no explanation for it. I do exercise regularly and rebound from time to time. My disbiosis problem started when I was 11 yrs old and treated for three months with Cloramphenicol because of a strong tiphoidea infection . Now I am 60 and every time ( not very many indeed) I had to use antibiotics in my life I had to struggle side effects. Last time, because of the agression, I was put into a clinical coma for a week and " drown " with antibiotics and antimicotics. Fortunately a am aware that the central point is " correct food " together with oxygen( any: ozone, h2o2, oz oil ,(aerobics) and cocconut oil so it is not difficult to rebalance flora. Mag and Cal are part of my routine. Since I know it is difficult for me to manage a complete healing I treat myself creatively, enjoying food, rest, nature, relations and research activity. When I get,( rarely), stressed and I forget of myself I start slowly to produce a lot of candida sufferer's symptoms. Now I know how to deal with the whole question giving relaxation a first priority . Not difficult since I have chosen an autonomous lifestyle. Would very much like to get deeper into the inulin question. Thanks Simon Il giorno 10/giu/10, alle ore 22:37, Duncan Crow ha scritto: > Doug, the Aborigines historically got 200-300 grams of inulin > daily, and had to literally run down some of their game, and > eastern Europeans got 20-30 grams daily, also without their tendons > tightening up, so I think there must be another reason for your > tightening tendons. > > Are you sedentary Doug? The best recourse for muscular and tendon > issues is simply to exercise them. I'm dead serious; many people > forget how important daily exercise is for the lymph too. > > all good, > > Duncan Crow > > >> >> Hi, this is Doug, I took a break to clear some issues. I have been >> taking inulin and am noticing my tendons are tightening up. It is >> frightening as a ruptured tendon is very serious business. In >> particular the ones in my lower legs and feet are very tight. Has >> anyone else experienced this? Would there be another effective >> prebiotic that would be different enough to not have the same side >> effects? Thanks, Doug >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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