Re: kidney herbs, lymph movement and mineral forms - save this copy

June 10, 2010

Please let me explain further as Duncan does not use my products in his practice

nor does he see from the same view as I. I have found in my experience that just

addressing symptoms with products and fancy gadgets does not work. I have

learned and grown past symptom relief to a much more effective and sustainable

path to wellness and health.

I would like to add, to you Duncan, as we would both obviously agree, and as

NieeMa herself has stated in the past, we have differing ways of

approaching wellness and my perspective on how the body works and how I address

health differs from yours. So, I would request and appreciate that you have the

professional courtesy to address responses with your own wellness advice to whom

you are advising instead of using my thread comments. I have extended this

professional

courtesy to you and would expect it in return. That way you can give your advice

and comments, I will offer my own and we can then allow the people to chose what

they will. That way, too we can avoid putting one another in a position of

feeling the need to explain or defend our position, as I now feel compelled and

am about to do.

It is a given that movement drives the lymph system. If the kidneys and liver

are stressed and can not deal with the lymph, all the movement in the world will

do very little. It is kinder to the body and ultimately more effective to start

closer to the root of the issue by getting the organs of elimination working a

little better first, then working on the lymph movement. I have seen too many

people begin a workout regime and harm themselves by overloading the stressed

organs of elimination.

Once things get to a point of movement, I agree the rebounder is highly

effective, however, only if the rebounder is an " Electrically Tuned Rebounder "

which absolutely helps the lymph system and also enhances the body's electrical

system.

The colloidal minerals I use and manufacture are the easiest and most

biologically and electrically available to the body in a natural organic form.

They are not Nano sized, they are not mixed with anything or altered in any

fashion. They come from nature and are in a natural organic balance and form.

There are several sources of colloidal minerals on the market today and after

extensive research I feel I have acquired the best mineral for my clients and

customers.

The idea of mineral ionization or chelation in the gut being a problem is not a

reality in my clinical protocol. Adding only 2 amino elements to a mineral

product does not make it any

better in the overall digestive process. We humans require 22 amino acids and

over 60 minerals to exist (as we learned in 8th grade biology) and my protocol

more than provides these

requirements.The amino acids are provided in and come from the diet I recommend,

in other words, from food.

It is often a good idea to consider supplementing enzymes, however, if the body

has the ability to create the nessesary enzymes during digestion, that is the

ionaztion process in its natural state which then sets up the ability to chelate

the body. The minerals I recommend already have a negative charge to ease the

ionization process through digestion, allowing for maximum effectiveness even to

an ill and diseased person.

Regarding sea salt, Himalayan sea salt contains far less than adequate amounts

of minerals. The human body requires a minimum of 60 minerals for optimal

health. I use and recommend a moist sea salt I import from El Salvador with over

60 minerals and without any of the heavy metals in most of today's other popular

brands. In my opinion the salt has to be moist, as the majority of the elements

are water soluble. That is why most dry salts have far less broad mineral

elements. This salt from El Salvador is already negatively charged from nature

to work with the body to chelate and support the body's requirements and it is

in an organic natural state.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

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From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 5:32:20 PM

Subject: kidney herbs, lymph movement and mineral forms - save

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About the Red Clover and Dandelion teas, they are good kidney stimulators. But

lymph movers they are not; lymph movement absolutely requires physical movement.

For physically moving the lymph, nothing I know of today surpasses rebounding,

which moves lymph about 14 times better than jogging does even in sedentary

people who have to 'sit bounce' on the mini-trampoline. Bouncing is a true

anti-ager, especially to the more sedentary.

The three best forms of minerals are not colloidal IMO, and here's why:

1) Indian shilajit is the #1 Ayurvedic 'herbal' supplement for good reason, and

it's only a mineral supplement. It contains fulvic and humic acids, which are

mineral transporters, plus the minerals in bioavailable form. Many health pros

maintain fulvic/humic preparations are the essential element to life. Can't

remember the elegant wording they used but the science is not lost on me

Colloidal minerals rely on an additional step of ionization or chelation in the

gut to make them bioavailable. Anyone familiar with bowel health would be

cautious with an assertion that colloidal minerals would be bioavilable, knowing

that many people have existing malabsorption issues that result from that

inadequate ionization of minerals due to a more alkaline bowel than it should

be.

2) Amized Brine from Amega Global is hitting the streets as the best

inorganic/colloidal mineral contender because of the Amization process, which

increases body energy. It starts with Himalayan sea salt, which is a very

popular inorganic salt, and then improves it.

3) Kona Gold from the Integris Corporation is not listed as colloidal because

it's primarily organically derived from phytoplankton carcasses from the deep

sea bed, but it contains colloidal minerals as well. Kona Gold was my first

choice for about 10 years until I found the shilajit extract I use today. I have

avoided salt products in the past for sodium reasons, and this fills the bill

without excess sodium and wholly without arsenic, mercury, or cadmium that the

land-based deposits have in them.

For Katerine and her daughter's thrush rash: topical ozonated olive oil has no

equal:

http://ozonatedoliveoil.com

all good,

Duncan Crow

>

> In my opinion you do not have to use any RX drugs to overcome a thrush issue.

Pharmaceutical antifungals do way more damage than good. Rx antifungals damage

the delicate balance of microorganisms within us to create long term dependence

on more and different Rx drugs.

>

> While using these Rx antifungals you are causing the fungus to retreat deeper

into the body for survival. When you have a system that is overloaded with

fungus and associated fungal residue the lymphatic system can become toxic as it

is sounding like in your case.

>

> In my clinic I use a natural approach to this issue. I do have a general

approach which is in my book within the forum files. With those who would like a

much more aggressive and effective approach I need to know some details from you

and that requires a consultation.

>

> There are several things one can do to get the lymph moving like red clover

and dandilion teas. I use a product called MMS to knock down the systemic fungus

along with probiotics to build the immune system.

>

> I recommend a gall bladder and liver flush, if and when you are ready, as

these 2 organs are usually impaired and can not function properly with a fungal

over load.

>

> I do recommend a general diet outline in my book which needs to be altered

some for specific issues like you are experiencing. Like, cut all carbs and

sugars to get the glucose levels down and implement a few supplements like broad

spectrum enzymes, as many different strains of probiotics including the

transient soil born strains and available colloidal minerals.

>

> I hope this helps,

>

> Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

>

> ________________________________

> From: fan <kateri222@...>

> candidiasis

> Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 7:54:20 AM

> Subject: do we really need a Rx antifungal?

>

> My daughter and I are sharing thrush- grrr, we've tried everything, the only

thing that is working is diet, and we tried gentian violet on sun, waiting to

see if it is working. How many attempts do i give it? doc says just once.

>

> other question: do we really have to be on nystatin? we've tried it orally

and on diaper rash and it doesn't seem to do anything- should I just keep doing

it?

>

> I don't notice thrush on my breasts, but the undersides do itch as does some

of my other partsof my body... without RASH??? Weird, like it's under my skin-

any other suggestions besides diet and probiotic? I will try oil of oregano-

where do i get it?

>

> Can anyone email me back with answers to all of these questions? they are

pretty generic

>

June 11, 2010

Wil,

I heartily agree with you on needing 60 or more minerals. 's Himalayan

salt we have been familiar with has 84 elements,

http://www.life-enthusiast.com/index/Products/Salt

The mineral shilajit contains more than 85 elements, and I used to use Rockland

Mines' Mineral Toddy before I found Integris' Kona Gold, which contains no

arsenic, mercury or cadmium. All three of the 'mud' products contain much less

sodium than sea products do, so I switched my clients to them to more easily

avoid excess dietary sodium. I'm always concerned with excess salt because I see

a lot of it.

>>Regarding sea salt, Himalayan sea salt contains far less than adequate amounts

of minerals. The human body requires a minimum of 60 minerals for optimal

health.

> The idea of mineral ionization or chelation in the gut being a problem is not

a reality in my clinical protocol. Adding only 2 amino elements to a mineral

product does not make it any

> better in the overall digestive process.

OK, the researchers say otherwise about the minerals in peer-reviewed studies on

bowel lining, but we've seen differences between researchers before. Maybe

you're seeing the gut as healthy but we're on a bowel dysbiosis list so the

malabsorption of un-ionized and un-chelated colloidal minerals should be known.

I've seen a few studies on that in the bowel research.

The fulvic and humic acids ARE the 2 transporters, and are highly valued for

what they do. It's not about amino acids. Red herring. Do a Google search.

goodnight

Duncan

> >

> > In my opinion you do not have to use any RX drugs to overcome a thrush

issue. Pharmaceutical antifungals do way more damage than good. Rx antifungals

damage the delicate balance of microorganisms within us to create long term

dependence on more and different Rx drugs.

> >

> > While using these Rx antifungals you are causing the fungus to retreat

deeper into the body for survival. When you have a system that is overloaded

with fungus and associated fungal residue the lymphatic system can become toxic

as it is sounding like in your case.

> >

> > In my clinic I use a natural approach to this issue. I do have a general

approach which is in my book within the forum files. With those who would like a

much more aggressive and effective approach I need to know some details from you

and that requires a consultation.

> >

> > There are several things one can do to get the lymph moving like red clover

and dandilion teas. I use a product called MMS to knock down the systemic fungus

along with probiotics to build the immune system.

> >

> > I recommend a gall bladder and liver flush, if and when you are ready, as

these 2 organs are usually impaired and can not function properly with a fungal

over load.

> >

> > I do recommend a general diet outline in my book which needs to be altered

some for specific issues like you are experiencing. Like, cut all carbs and

sugars to get the glucose levels down and implement a few supplements like broad

spectrum enzymes, as many different strains of probiotics including the

transient soil born strains and available colloidal minerals.

> >

> > I hope this helps,

> >

> > Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: fan <kateri222@>

> > candidiasis

> > Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 7:54:20 AM

> > Subject: do we really need a Rx antifungal?

> >

> > My daughter and I are sharing thrush- grrr, we've tried everything, the only

thing that is working is diet, and we tried gentian violet on sun, waiting to

see if it is working. How many attempts do i give it? doc says just once.

> >

> > other question: do we really have to be on nystatin? we've tried it orally

and on diaper rash and it doesn't seem to do anything- should I just keep doing

it?

> >

> > I don't notice thrush on my breasts, but the undersides do itch as does some

of my other partsof my body... without RASH??? Weird, like it's under my skin-

any other suggestions besides diet and probiotic? I will try oil of oregano-

where do i get it?

> >

> > Can anyone email me back with answers to all of these questions? they are

pretty generic

> >

June 11, 2010

Duncan, I was interested in your mention ofÂ bouncing on a mini-trampoline. I

guess you are speaking of the 3-4ft. diameter ones that have been around for

15-20 years for jogging on.Â You are speaking of just sit bouncing on them as

being helpful? Thanks Doug

From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...>

Subject: kidney herbs, lymph movement and mineral forms - save

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candidiasis

Date: Thursday, June 10, 2010, 5:32 PM

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About the Red Clover and Dandelion teas, they are good kidney stimulators.

But lymph movers they are not; lymph movement absolutely requires physical

movement.