Fatty acids

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I believe you did. A big shout out to you and your peeps! ;-)

--- Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

>

> ummmm....wasn't I the one who suggested CLO to you?

> Gracia

>

> I bought some Carlsons Cod liver oil and have taken 4 teaspoons a day for

10-12 days now. I

> also

> am taking a extra EPA/DHA capsules for a total of about 3 grams of each of

EPA and DHA. This

> is

> up from just 1000mg for the previous 2 months. I have to say that that my

dry hypo hair is

> like I

> haven't seen it in quite a while, soft and shiny.

>

> BUT the most amazing thing so far is that I am now taking 10 grams of

ester-C (7 days now)

> without

> any signs of canker sores! I have never been able to take ANY Vit-C for more

than 2 days

> without

> canker sores appearing let alone 10 grams! This has been a life long thing.

My sister has the

> same problem.

>

> Would you think it is just the fish oils? Theories? I thought maybe the

extra vitamin D from

> the

> Cod Liver Oil may have helped since I am now taking 2000mg. I planned on

megadosing on the Cod

> Liver oil for a month or two and then dropping back to cut the high Vit-A

and D. I tried to

> take

> the Vit-C during the Iodine dosing as much as possible but got these huge

cankers and had to

> stop.

> As it was pointed out most of the body's vitamin C is stored in the adrenals

maybe it works in

> reverse too...strengthening adrenals except more vitamin-C?? In retrospect I

see I have been

> on

> limited fat diet for 12 years or more. I don't care much for fish so I had

very little fish

> oil

> or essential fatty acids.

>

> I may be a little premature with rejoicing but this is really a breakthrough

for me if I can

> supplement vit-c after all this time. Something is very different. Woohoo!

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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natellite wrote:

> My Omega 3's were also down at 3% and I benefited from taking high dose

EPA(Fish oils).

Omega-3 fatty acids are part of the Pall protocol. Studies have shown

lessened symptoms in CFIDS with supplementation. Marty talks in his

book about Omega-3s, explaining their importance in brain function and

that they are quite susceptible to being depleted due to oxidative

stress related to elevated peroxynitrite (ONOO-). They also help to

downregulate the NO/ONOO- cycle. So, by taking them, you helped to

downregulate the cycle, hence you felt better.

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Yes, at the time of testing my Oxidative Stress test also indicated extreme

HIGHLY elevated Malondialdehyde in plasma and urine which is an indication of

accumulated oxidative stress and damage.

Antioxidants were in " poor values " and I was advised to take antixidants.

Nat

Marty talks in his

> book about Omega-3s, explaining their importance in brain function and

> that they are quite susceptible to being depleted due to oxidative

> stress related to elevated peroxynitrite (ONOO-). They also help to

> downregulate the NO/ONOO- cycle. So, by taking them, you helped to

> downregulate the cycle, hence you felt better.

>

[Guest guest]

" natellite " <natellite@...> wrote:

> extreme HIGHLY elevated Malondialdehyde in plasma and urine

> which is an indication of accumulated oxidative stress and damage.

>

> Antioxidants were in " poor values " and I was advised to take

> antixidants.

>

> Nat

more on malonaldehyde:

Malonaldehyde content of foods:

http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/abstract/107/8/1404

Carol W.

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I have red one interesting article which say that fatty acids are beneficial for

candida infection treatment. I can`t take much fat and fish fat in particular bc

of poor indigestion of fat. I also can`t tolerate flax seeds but probably there

are other sourses of fatty acid.

I wonder if somebody use fatty acids and how it help?

[Guest guest]

> There are many ways to motivate your bile to empty (like lemon slush recipe I

posted a while back, or olive oil w/ lemon juice) and plenty of liver support

(like Milk Thistle and others)

Hi Carmen,

Can you elaborate on the olive oil w/ lemon juice recipe? I did a pretty intense

liver flush awhile back, seemed to work well but pretty hard on my body. I had

read somewhere about taking a olive oil w/ lemon juice just before bed, then

laying on my right side and that would help flush. I can't find that anymore.

Thank you!

Sally

Costa Rica

[Guest guest]

You could try a spoonful of apple cider vinegar in a glass of water at each

meal and see if that helps. I think you should see a difference in about 3

days. Sylvia

On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 12:55 PM, IMS <imsinfo@...> wrote:

> I have red one interesting article which say that fatty acids are

> beneficial for candida infection treatment. I can`t take much fat and fish

> fat in particular bc of poor indigestion of fat. I also can`t tolerate flax

> seeds but probably there are other sourses of fatty acid.

>

> I wonder if somebody use fatty acids and how it help?

>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

With Celiac/Gluten Intolerance it takes at least 1 year for the intestine to

heal once gluten is completely eliminated from diet.

Hopefully you are not eating any grains at all; grain toxicity can affect many

people.

I know the pains you're talking about, mine may not be exactly as yours but I

know.

Food elimination is a must. You have to figure out what food bring you the pain,

or what combination of foods.

I found that eating mostly fish (cooked not canned) and fresh salads helped me

in the past weeks.

Have you tried milk thistle? seed extract, Nature's way is a good brand.

hth,

carmen

________________________________

From: IMS <imsinfo@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 8:15:12 PM

Subject: Re: Fatty acids

My doc recommended me Bile acids and enzymes but it hurt as well as Ox bile

grandular and herbs bc it increase bile reflux.Recently I red that gluten

intolerance or celiac cause indigestion of fat too.I am on gluten free diet but

it didn`t helped for fat. The only thing I can take is a little bit of lechitin

and zink which is supposed to help for fat metabolism.Somethim es I eat

artichokes and other liver cleasing food.

If I will not stop reflux I will not be able to help gallbladder problem. It was

sluggish and probably still not so good even if my US test is normal

now.Everybody with candida supposed to have liver problem bc it damaging liver.I

have borage oil and I can try it to see if I can tolerate it tough I red borage

could be toxic too.

>

> ,

> I have a poor fat metabolism to, but fatty acids from Cod Liver Oil I tolerate

just fine.

> If fat ingestion bothers you this much, look into gallbladder and liver

problems...

> There are many ways to motivate your bile to empty (like lemon slush recipe I

posted a while back, or olive oil w/ lemon juice) and plenty of liver support

(like Milk Thistle and others)

> Also take an enzyme supp with the fat ingestion (Lipase is the enzyme that

breaks down the fat)

> Fatty acids are very important for the entire body not just for controlling

candida overgrowth.

>

> hth,

> carmen

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: IMS <imsinfo@... >

> candidiasis

> Sent: Thu, November 5, 2009 2:55:00 PM

> Subject: Fatty acids

>

>

> I have red one interesting article which say that fatty acids are beneficial

for candida infection treatment. I can`t take much fat and fish fat in

particular bc of poor indigestion of fat. I also can`t tolerate flax seeds but

probably there are other sourses of fatty acid.

>

> I wonder if somebody use fatty acids and how it help?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Not Carmen, but here is one that I do since I have a tough time with the

regular liver flush as well. I do not use the juice ingredient and it tastes

just fine without it.

Taken from www.keephopealive.org

RECIPE FOR WHOLE LEMON/OLIVE OIL DRINK

(Rapidly heals Neuropathy and promotes weight gain by detoxifying the liver

and normalizing saliva pH values)

Into a blender, add 1/2 a lemon (cut-up) including the rind and pulp. Be

sure to first wash the lemon well and scrape off markings from artificial

coloring. To the Blender, add the cut up lemon plus one Tablespoon of Extra

Virgin Olive Oil and one cup of orange or other fruit juice. Blend at high

speed for one minute. Pour through a strainer (screen type) to remove pulp.

Use a spatula to press the pulp. Discard the pulp. Drink it all at once.

If you have problems sleeping, drink it just before you retire to your

bedroom at night. It will help you get a good night’s sleep. The therapeutic

value of this drink comes from the whole lemon and the extra-virgin olive

oil. The orange juice or other fruit juice is added as a sweetener. You may

use 1 cup of any kind of fruit juice that you desire. However, if you have

thrush or yeast overgrowth, avoid fruit juice which stimulates growth of

yeast. It is better to use plain water.

Note: Extra Virgin Olive Oil is cold pressed. Light olive oil is heat

processed and may not have the same benefits. I would suggest checking with

your local health food store for a high quality cold pressed extra virgin

olive oil.

WHY THE WHOLE LEMON DRINK WORKS: CITRUS PECTIN RESTORES ABSORPTION OF FATS

Lemon Juice and Olive Oil Flushes Toxins from the Liver.

Extra Virgin Olive Oil increases the flow of bile from the Liver. This helps

the liver get rid of accumulated toxins and poisons. Lymph fluid then drains

into the liver for processing and eliminating waste products of cellular

metabolism. Some persons have reported that just drinking lemonade reduces

the size of their lymph nodes. The mechanism of how lemons do this is not

known.

It is common knowledge that in AIDS progression, fat and essential fatty

acids are not well absorbed. It is also well known that any normal

overweight person who goes on a very low fat diet will lose weight - mostly

fat. Fats and oils raise saliva pH while grains lower the saliva pH.

Essential fatty acids are needed by the body for the production of various

hormones (Preston). Pectin from citrus rinds and from apple sauce (not the

juice), helps in the assimilation of fats and oils. When oil is added to

water, it will not mix. However, you will notice that the Olive oil is

totally dispersed throughout the Whole Lemon-Orange drink. This dispersion

of the oil is caused by the pectin in the rind of the lemon. The proof of

absorption of the oil could come from a blood test, but is also indicated by

the rapid return of saliva pH to normal-6.4.

In addition, the lemon juice acts on proteins to break them into a free form

which are more easily assimilated. Also, the lemon juice helps to dissolve

minerals in the food for better assimilation. This drink should be used with

all dietary supplements to improve their assimilation. In PWAs, I have found

that when saliva pH is less than 6.0, they tend to lose weight. Weight gain

starts when saliva pH reaches 6.2 or higher. Low saliva pH also indicates

low calcium levels. The most absorbable form of calcium is Limewater

(calcium hydroxide). The normal value is 6.4 when the saliva pH is tested

between meals in a resting state. The normal after you have just finished

eating is 7.2.

> There are many ways to motivate your bile to empty (like lemon slush

recipe I posted a while back, or olive oil w/ lemon juice) and plenty of

liver support (like Milk Thistle and others)

Hi Carmen,

Can you elaborate on the olive oil w/ lemon juice recipe? I did a pretty

intense liver flush awhile back, seemed to work well but pretty hard on my

body. I had read somewhere about taking a olive oil w/ lemon juice just

before bed, then laying on my right side and that would help flush. I can't

find that anymore.

Thank you!

Sally

Costa Rica

[Guest guest]

I don`t have celiac but intolerance to gluten as most people with candida. I was

told that it may be the reason for H Pylori and candida but it was hidden in the

past. I have learned about that from ALCAt and Metametrix tests otherwise I

didn`t have a ny symptoms.I was totally free of grains for 3 months but it cause

imbalace in nerves and overeating problem. I stated eating a lot of nut butten

incted of bread and sugar and now I can`t eat even few spoons without belching

and reflux, pain.

Now eat a little of home made gluten free bread wuth nut butter.

It is all what i can eat afternoon for comform bc I feel tired and can have

hypoglicemia attach.

Vinegar has eats I don`t know how somebody in tjis group can take it?

I react badly to all kind of yeast and molds.

> >

> > ,

> > I have a poor fat metabolism to, but fatty acids from Cod Liver Oil I

tolerate just fine.

> > If fat ingestion bothers you this much, look into gallbladder and liver

problems...

> > There are many ways to motivate your bile to empty (like lemon slush recipe

I posted a while back, or olive oil w/ lemon juice) and plenty of liver support

(like Milk Thistle and others)

> > Also take an enzyme supp with the fat ingestion (Lipase is the enzyme that

breaks down the fat)

> > Fatty acids are very important for the entire body not just for controlling

candida overgrowth.

> >

> > hth,

> > carmen

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: IMS <imsinfo@ >

> > candidiasis

> > Sent: Thu, November 5, 2009 2:55:00 PM

> > Subject: Fatty acids

> >

> >

> > I have red one interesting article which say that fatty acids are beneficial

for candida infection treatment. I can`t take much fat and fish fat in

particular bc of poor indigestion of fat. I also can`t tolerate flax seeds but

probably there are other sourses of fatty acid.

> >

> > I wonder if somebody use fatty acids and how it help?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

you MUST adjust your diet to basically meat, fish, eggs and no-starch

vegetables.

Getting results with your health is not about what to take for some symptom, but

what to eliminate from your diet. Nuts are OK in small amounts if soaked, but to

much they are likely to cause digestive problems because they are harder to

digest.

Looks like you have plenty to elliminate. And if you have a hard time with that,

I suggest you look into food addiction and do something about it.

We must not eat between meals in order to give the bile/liver time to do their

job as well as the rest of the digestion. Comfort foods are not a choice in the

beginning, sorry to tell you that.  One must get to the point of not even

desiring the foods not allowed on candida diet. Myself, when I have to purchase

food for someone else that is outside of candida diet - I cringe... I take

forever in reading the ingredient list but my stomach beggins to hurt when

placing that item in my basket...

For me it's simple: no more suffering it's what I want and I do what it takes to

get there...

hth,

carmen

________________________________

From: IMS <imsinfo@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 2:02:34 PM

Subject: Re: Fatty acids

 

I don`t have celiac but intolerance to gluten as most people with candida. I was

told that it may be the reason for H Pylori and candida but it was hidden in the

past. I have learned about that from ALCAt and Metametrix tests otherwise I

didn`t have a ny symptoms.I was totally free of grains for 3 months but it cause

imbalace in nerves and overeating problem. I stated eating a lot of nut butten

incted of bread and sugar and now I can`t eat even few spoons without belching

and reflux, pain.

Now eat a little of home made gluten free bread wuth nut butter.

It is all what i can eat afternoon for comform bc I feel tired and can have

hypoglicemia attach.

Vinegar has eats I don`t know how somebody in tjis group can take it?

I react badly to all kind of yeast and molds.

[Guest guest]

The recipe below is nutritious but it doesn't describe a liver flush recipe; it

contains neither sufficient oil to make the gallbladder squeeze out the contents

of bile and gallstones, nor nor epsom salts to unrestrict the hepatic ducts. The

1/2 cup of oil in the liver flush recipes IS enough however to do that and flush

the liver, provided of course the epsom salts have also been used.

Dr. Kelley's overnight flush is the easiest; I have suggested a few comfortable

modifications on my site that do not affect it.

Duncan

>

> > There are many ways to motivate your bile to empty (like lemon slush

> recipe I posted a while back, or olive oil w/ lemon juice) and plenty of

> liver support (like Milk Thistle and others)

>

> Hi Carmen,

>

> Can you elaborate on the olive oil w/ lemon juice recipe? I did a pretty

> intense liver flush awhile back, seemed to work well but pretty hard on my

> body. I had read somewhere about taking a olive oil w/ lemon juice just

> before bed, then laying on my right side and that would help flush. I can't

> find that anymore.

>

> Thank you!

> Sally

> Costa Rica

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