Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 > > is nutiva cocunot oil OK - organic, cold pressed? > What is your name? Go to my website and you can search for Nutiva and see that I even have an ad for it: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/resource/nutiva.php Here's my website: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com See the Search in the top right corner. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Yes, Doug; coconut oil and butter should be your food oil choices. Duncan > > Is cocunut oil acceptable on the candida diet? Thanks Doug > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Duncan,thank you, Doug From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> Subject: Re: cocunut oil candidiasis Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 9:32 AM Yes, Doug; coconut oil and butter should be your food oil choices. Duncan > > Is cocunut oil acceptable on the candida diet? Thanks Doug > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Hi Tina Please let me know how you go with the coconut oil as you build up your dosage. I too am in the " nothing happened " camp. ________________________________ From: tmike3485 <tmike3485@...> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2009 1:31:42 AM Subject: [ ] Cocunut Oil Hi Bee and the group! Today I finally got up the nerve to take my first tablespoon of CO. I was afraid after reading the previous posts that I would get sick or something weird was going to happen but nothing bad happened. I didn't make me sick either BUT I must tell you that I am so nervous about the weight gain. I have read everything there is about the CO and how good it is but I just have a hard time believing that something with that much fat is going to help me lose weight If it didn't make me sick should I try and get the recommended 4 TBL in right away or gradually build up? I am also going to make the " bark " as it sounds like a good way to get in 4tbl and also have a nice snack at the same time.' Thanks! Help me not be so paranoid Thanks Tina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 > > Hi Bee and the group! > > Today I finally got up the nerve to take my first tablespoon of CO. I was afraid after reading the previous posts that I would get sick or something weird was going to happen but nothing bad happened. I didn't make me sick either BUT I must tell you that I am so nervous about the weight gain. I have read everything there is about the CO and how good it is but I just have a hard time believing that something with that much fat is going to help me lose weight > Thanks > Tina > Hi Tina, I have lost 15 pounds since starting, about the first of the year. Sometimes I backed off on the coconut oil, but many days it was 3 tablespoons a day, plus 1-2 tbsp butter, some fat from meat, and some days some pork skins. I weigh about what I did 15 years ago, and this may be my ideal weight. I am 5 feet tall, small boned, and now about 100 lb. C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 > > Hi Bee and the group! > > Today I finally got up the nerve to take my first tablespoon of CO. I was afraid after reading the previous posts that I would get sick or something weird was going to happen but nothing bad happened. I didn't make me sick either BUT I must tell you that I am so nervous about the weight gain. I have read everything there is about the CO and how good it is but I just have a hard time believing that something with that much fat is going to help me lose weight +++Hi Tina. Good fats I recommend that are natural, i.e. butter, coconut oil, lard, goose fat, fish oil, etc. do not make the body put on fat - it is carbs that create body fat - See this article: Study Reveals Coconut Oil Improves Cholesterol Profile and Waistline http://www.naturalnews.com/z026547_coconut_oil_fats_health.html +++Also read Fat, Taking the fear out of eating it: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/foods15.php +++Also see the book on this list called Eat Fat, Lose Fat, by Sally Fallon, founder of the Weston A. Price Foundation: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/resource/amazonbkus.php +++Also see the Skinny on Fats: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/fats1.php > > If it didn't make me sick should I try and get the recommended 4 TBL in right away or gradually build up? I am also going to make the " bark " as it sounds like a good way to get in 4tbl and also have a nice snack at the same time.' +++You might not get die-off symptoms until you are completely on the diet and taking all of the supplements recommended, so please be cautious about increasing it too quickly until you are. Also ensure you are taking the right kind of coconut oil which must be unrefined, undeodorized, unbleached, non-hydrogenated, etc. All the best, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 So I am supposed to take cocunut oil through the day to deal with the die off. I need to know the exact amount again, please and does it work best if spooned out and eaten as is or is it equally effective cooked? If I am eating 3 or more tablespoons a day isn't that a definite pounds-weight producer? Thanks Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 dglsrichey wrote: > So I am supposed to take cocunut oil through the day to deal with the > die off. I need to know the exact amount again, please and does it > work best if spooned out and eaten as is or is it equally effective > cooked? If I am eating 3 or more tablespoons a day isn't that a > definite pounds-weight producer? Thanks Doug Not if you reduce other fats in your diet, substitute the coconut oil for polyunsaturated vegetable oils. If you currently eat high carb, reduce carbs, particularly grain carbs. sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 FYI, coconut oil is powerful antifungal which might produce die-off reactions. Coconut oil is best taken together with protein. Not a good idea to take coconut oil late at night before sleep because the lauric acid in coco oil is good energizer. Some people report irritability from taking coco oil, besides die-offs. carmen ________________________________ From: sol <solbun@...> candidiasis Sent: Mon, October 26, 2009 12:45:04 PM Subject: Re: Cocunut oil dglsrichey wrote: > So I am supposed to take cocunut oil through the day to deal with the > die off. I need to know the exact amount again, please and does it > work best if spooned out and eaten as is or is it equally effective > cooked? If I am eating 3 or more tablespoons a day isn't that a > definite pounds-weight producer? Thanks Doug Not if you reduce other fats in your diet, substitute the coconut oil for polyunsaturated vegetable oils. If you currently eat high carb, reduce carbs, particularly grain carbs. sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Thanks for the info Carmen, and Sol. I have just been spooning it out usually with a meal. I am taking a product called Yeast Max and between the two I have had the most satisfying sleeps. Doug > So I am supposed to take cocunut oil through the day to deal with the > die off. I need to know the exact amount again, please and does it > work best if spooned out and eaten as is or is it equally effective > cooked? If I am eating 3 or more tablespoons a day isn't that a > definite pounds-weight producer? Thanks Doug Not if you reduce other fats in your diet, substitute the coconut oil for polyunsaturated vegetable oils. If you currently eat high carb, reduce carbs, particularly grain carbs. sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Carmen, could that irritability manifest itself as rage? I almost seem to be finding myself a little out of control and it will be convenient yet disappointing to blame it on the coccunt oil. I do not intend to drop it for that reason, just disappointed since I already have other herbs that contribute to that. Doug > So I am supposed to take cocunut oil through the day to deal with the > die off. I need to know the exact amount again, please and does it > work best if spooned out and eaten as is or is it equally effective > cooked? If I am eating 3 or more tablespoons a day isn't that a > definite pounds-weight producer? Thanks Doug Not if you reduce other fats in your diet, substitute the coconut oil for polyunsaturated vegetable oils. If you currently eat high carb, reduce carbs, particularly grain carbs. sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Carmen, I am back to the irritability issue. It turns out it is a problem with me. I do not want to stop it but wonder if anyone knows of any things one could ingest to put one at peace when that happens. I know cognitive (psychological) therapy in and out but the physical effect this has on me seems to precede any efforts to do something about it. Maybe it will wear off after an hour and maybe I am already over stressed today too. Doug > So I am supposed to take cocunut oil through the day to deal with the > die off. I need to know the exact amount again, please and does it > work best if spooned out and eaten as is or is it equally effective > cooked? If I am eating 3 or more tablespoons a day isn't that a > definite pounds-weight producer? Thanks Doug Not if you reduce other fats in your diet, substitute the coconut oil for polyunsaturated vegetable oils. If you currently eat high carb, reduce carbs, particularly grain carbs. sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 I am replying to myself and others to say that I was low on magnesium and calcium and that relaxes me. That is the sort of thing I was looking for things that I might be short in or that would calm one when something like coc. oil makes you irritable. Doug > So I am supposed to take cocunut oil through the day to deal with the > die off. I need to know the exact amount again, please and does it > work best if spooned out and eaten as is or is it equally effective > cooked? If I am eating 3 or more tablespoons a day isn't that a > definite pounds-weight producer? Thanks Doug Not if you reduce other fats in your diet, substitute the coconut oil for polyunsaturated vegetable oils. If you currently eat high carb, reduce carbs, particularly grain carbs. sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 hmmm, all this talk about coconut oil and irritability has got me wondering. I have had the problems with " rage " a lot myself and always attributed it to the whey, but I almost always mixed in coconut oil with it and almost never ate it outside of whey shakes... hmmm, could it be.... greg > > > So I am supposed to take cocunut oil through the day to deal with the > > > die off. I need to know the exact amount again, please and does it > > > work best if spooned out and eaten as is or is it equally effective > > > cooked? If I am eating 3 or more tablespoons a day isn't that a > > > definite pounds-weight producer? Thanks Doug > > > > Not if you reduce other fats in your diet, substitute the coconut oil > > for polyunsaturated vegetable oils. If you currently eat high carb, > > reduce carbs, particularly grain carbs. > > sol > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Doug, for me it got simpler (after much suffering): there are other antifungals out there; all the anger and irritability was NOT helping my body overcome anything and was not worth it. Any one body needs love and nurturing in order to get better. I figured that if coco oil causes me such unbelievable reactions, then coco oil is not for *my* body. Stop it for a few days, you will know. Let me know to :) carmen ________________________________ From: douglas richey <dglsrichey@...> candidiasis Sent: Mon, October 26, 2009 7:43:47 PM Subject: Re: Cocunut oil Carmen, I am back to the irritability issue. It turns out it is a problem with me. I do not want to stop it but wonder if anyone knows of any things one could ingest to put one at peace when that happens. I know cognitive (psychological) therapy in and out but the physical effect this has on me seems to precede any efforts to do something about it. Maybe it will wear off after an hour and maybe I am already over stressed today too. Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 OMG! When I first starting taking coconut oil I felt like I was on steroids! Felt anger almost out of control. It was awful. Had to cut way back and work up. A friend had the same exp. I guess it is die off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 I had something similar happen to me recently. I was so irritable that I made myself mad with my own movements/paper rustling. (I hadn't been taking the coconut oil for a few days so I don't know if that had an impact.) I finally figured out that it was probably hormones so I went home and put on some hormone cream and that calmed me down. You may want to check with an Endocrinologist to see if there is a hormone imbalance contributing. Jen > > > So I am supposed to take cocunut oil through the day to deal with the > > > die off. I need to know the exact amount again, please and does it > > > work best if spooned out and eaten as is or is it equally effective > > > cooked? If I am eating 3 or more tablespoons a day isn't that a > > > definite pounds-weight producer? Thanks Doug > > > > Not if you reduce other fats in your diet, substitute the coconut oil > > for polyunsaturated vegetable oils. If you currently eat high carb, > > reduce carbs, particularly grain carbs. > > sol > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 I do not believe this king of anger and rage is die-off. ________________________________ From: and Royal <rerlsr1@...> candidiasis Sent: Tue, October 27, 2009 5:25:04 PM Subject: Re: Cocunut oil OMG! When I first starting taking coconut oil I felt like I was on steroids! Felt anger almost out of control. It was awful. Had to cut way back and work up. A friend had the same exp. I guess it is die off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 This is all extremely interesting to me. After years of asking whether others experienced rage from whey, or sometimes asking about rage with threelac, no one ever responded. But I almost always took my whey with coconut oil and almost never took coconut oil alone. In fact, I can remember one time when I went on a camping trip and I brought some coconut oil as a low carb snack and I ate some by the spoonful. I felt like I could kill someone. I guess since that feeling had become so common as I had it almost every day in my shakes, I did not make the connection to the oil. Maybe I should give whey ANOTHER try. I really want that stuff to work out for me. Who would have guessed coconut oil would cause rage? in '28 days later', they were all really just eating coconut oil. greg > > OMG! When I first starting taking coconut oil I felt like I was on steroids! Felt anger almost out of control. It was awful. Had to cut way back and work up. A friend had the same exp. I guess it is die off. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 A-huh! No let's see you get of the coco oil for a few days and then talk about acceptance again... :~) Deal? :~) enjoy the ride, carmen ________________________________ From: dreaminginnoother <dreaminginnoother@...> candidiasis Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 1:47:03 PM Subject: Re: Cocunut oil This is all extremely interesting to me. After years of asking whether others experienced rage from whey, or sometimes asking about rage with threelac, no one ever responded. But I almost always took my whey with coconut oil and almost never took coconut oil alone. In fact, I can remember one time when I went on a camping trip and I brought some coconut oil as a low carb snack and I ate some by the spoonful. I felt like I could kill someone. I guess since that feeling had become so common as I had it almost every day in my shakes, I did not make the connection to the oil. Maybe I should give whey ANOTHER try. I really want that stuff to work out for me. Who would have guessed coconut oil would cause rage? in '28 days later', they were all really just eating coconut oil. greg > > OMG! When I first starting taking coconut oil I felt like I was on steroids! Felt anger almost out of control. It was awful. Had to cut way back and work up. A friend had the same exp. I guess it is die off. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 I haven't taken it in almost 2 years. I still don't get " acceptance " . The whole thing still sounds like another way to tell others their plights are their own faults in thinking. Makes the inconvenience of empathy avoidable. greg > > > > OMG! When I first starting taking coconut oil I felt like I was on steroids! Felt anger almost out of control. It was awful. Had to cut way back and work up. A friend had the same exp. I guess it is die off. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Where in the world does this anger and die-off crap come from? In my clinical experience the anger and rage are products of a severe imbalance in the electrical and/or biological systems. Which could be a toxin build up, but this is still an imbalance, not a die-off of a candida over growth. Wil Spencer ________________________________ From: " can2cis-y@... " <can2cis-y@...> candidiasis Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 10:38:55 AM Subject: Re: Re: Cocunut oil I do not believe this king of anger and rage is die-off. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: and Royal <rerlsr1bellsouth (DOT) net> candidiasis Sent: Tue, October 27, 2009 5:25:04 PM Subject: Re: Cocunut oil OMG! When I first starting taking coconut oil I felt like I was on steroids! Felt anger almost out of control. It was awful. Had to cut way back and work up. A friend had the same exp. I guess it is die off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 I notice that when people are taking prescription drugs then add a natural alternative, they will tend to blame the natural alternative for their problems when in fact it could be due to the toxic drugs they are taking. phine > > Where in the world does this anger and die-off crap come from? > In my clinical experience the anger and rage are products of a severe imbalance in the electrical and/or biological systems. Which could be a toxin build up, but this is still an imbalance, not a die-off of a candida over growth. > > Wil Spencer > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Greg, there are things that can be changed, there is acceptance for the things that can not be changed and there is wisdom to know the difference. This is the acceptance I'm talking about... enjoy the ride, carmen > > I haven't taken it in almost 2 years. I still don't get " acceptance " . The whole thing still sounds like another way to tell others their plights are their own faults in thinking. Makes the inconvenience of empathy avoidable. > > greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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