Re: FREE SomaLife gHP $90 value - OT

[Guest guest]

Health is multi-level approach.  I do not think it is a spam if it is scientic

proof to benefit our body. did some little research.   some non-distributors did

say many good things about SomaLife only complain was it was kind of too

pricy. My impression MLM items often are expensive.     I have terrible sleep

problem and other health issues that I welcome this opportunity to give myself a

try.  So another word is it like buying one get one free thing?  I tried one

other item in the past also subscription. to autoship but did not help me so I

just call to cancel it.  Helen

 

I agree, also I am adult enough to be able to locate the delete key when I want

to use it.

Myra

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Virginia Leonard <breckrider@ comcast. net>

coconut_oil_ open_forum

Sent: Fri, October 2, 2009 6:46:06 PM

Subject: RE: [coconut_oil_ open_forum] Re: FREE SomaLife gHP $90 value - OT

My goodness, Duncan has offered up way more informative posts than most

people on this list other than perhaps Alobar. He realized his mistake and

apologized for it. If you're that unhappy about this one post..well, maybe

another list would be more appropriate for you. I'm just sayin'....

www.savethismg. blogspot. com

On Behalf Of Theta

Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 4:37 PM

coconut_oil_ open_forum

Subject: Re: [coconut_oil_ open_forum] Re: FREE SomaLife gHP $90 value - OT

I called the number he gave. The offer was bogus. In order to have a free

bottle sent to someone else, you have to purchase a bottle of the product.

Call the number yourself.

And, besides, that is beyond the point. The real point we were trying to

make is being allowed to promote a product. (And it's not even coconut oil

related.) It was our understanding spam was not permitted.

No virus found in this incoming message.

Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.113/2398 - Release Date: 10/02/09

06:46:00

[Guest guest]

Just an innocent observation/comment subject to misinterpretation. 'Nuf said.

-richard-

[Guest guest]

Maybe she also wanted everyone to get a bottle for free like I did? I since

found out that it's only possible if more people get involved; the bottles are

still going out but you can send only ONE per new autoship sign-up, and your

friend can cancel autoship any time, presumably after she also sends out a free

bottle. I'd still like to see everyone get one, and I've done all I can do.

Duncan

>

> Why does the moderator let spam like this go through?

>

[Guest guest]

 

I have been a member of this group for a long time.   I have not read one piece

of information from Duncan that was valuable to me.  My understanding is that he

doesn't have professional credentials.  Even if he did, it still would be

considered spam. That is the point here. 

 

The point is profiting from pushing this SomaLife product.  That is all my point

was and is.  Like I said, many of us could suggest products for a profit.  That

would spiral this group out of control.  Every group I belong to has this strict

policy...it work well.

 

I only was agreeing with another list member on her comment about spam to this

group.  That is all. 

 

From: annezipkes <acutez@...>

Subject: Re: FREE SomaLife gHP $90 value - OT

Coconut Oil

Date: Saturday, October 3, 2009, 7:35 AM

 

Hi Theta,

I'm guessing that no one is unhappy about your post.

You may not realize what an important contributor Duncan is/has been to this

group. Duncan provides PROFESSIONAL advice on nutrition, detox, etc. It was long

ago established that VCO is useful towards a healthful lifestyle. And, to that

end, Duncan has been (IMO) extremely generous in offering other suggestions

towards age management and quality of life. SomaLife has been one of his

suggestions over the years. That Duncan is following through on its availability

is testament to Duncan's dedication. Remember, sharing on this group forum is a

free service that we offer to each other.

Perhaps you're just not understanding the bigger picture. We all want to learn

and share and be well.

Love and Laughter,

Anne

>

>

> From: Virginia Leonard <breckrider@ ...>

> Subject: RE: [coconut_oil_ open_forum] Re: FREE SomaLife gHP $90 value - OT

> coconut_oil_ open_forum

> Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 3:46 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> My goodness, Duncan has offered up way more informative posts than most

> people on this list other than perhaps Alobar. He realized his mistake and

> apologized for it. If you're that unhappy about this one post..well, maybe

> another list would be more appropriate for you. I'm just sayin'....

>

> www.savethismg. blogspot. com

>

> On Behalf Of Theta

> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 4:37 PM

> coconut_oil_ open_forum

> Subject: Re: [coconut_oil_ open_forum] Re: FREE SomaLife gHP $90 value - OT

>

> I called the number he gave. The offer was bogus. In order to have a free

> bottle sent to someone else, you have to purchase a bottle of the product.

> Call the number yourself.

> And, besides, that is beyond the point. The real point we were trying to

> make is being allowed to promote a product. (And it's not even coconut oil

> related.) It was our understanding spam was not permitted.

>

> No virus found in this incoming message.

> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.113/2398 - Release Date: 10/02/09

> 06:46:00

>

>

[Guest guest]

That may be true for you, Theta, but Duncan has helped me immensely

over the years.

Because I am both diabetic who does not take diabetic drugs, and also

have extreme sensitivity to oxalates in my foods, my diet is, by

necessity, far too low in fiber. I tried other fibers. They tasted

bad, and/or did not do much for my chronic constipation. Inulin

fiber was suggested by Duncan. I have been using inulin for at least

5-1/2 years now. Inulin has really improved my life.

I used to be on a high meat diet. High meat diets are not healthy

long-term. When Duncan began talking about whey, I listened. Now,

I have whey two meals every day (no solid foods) with inulin, coconut

oil, fish oil, and cod liver oil. So I only desire as small (1/3

pound) piece of meat, once a day. Duncan's information on whey has

enabled me to reduce meat intake, and whey s less expensive than

eating 2 pounds of meat every day.

Duncan wrote about his modification of the Budwig protocol. Because

of Duncan's writings, I now squish fish oil around in my mouth with my

morning whey. The Budwig protocol is not only for those with cancer,

but is also good for folks like me who want to avoid getting cancer.

When I fist started reading material by Duncan, I was skeptical.

Many people give health advice. Most of them I came to distrust

because they had an axe to grind, or because their advice contradicted

things I had learned from other health experts. So I am skeptical any

time I bump into a new expert. However, I did not remain suspicious.

Now I look forward to reading Duncan's posts & dialogs with others

on this list. Duncan is someone whose thoughts on supplements and

diet I have learned to trust.

The above is me speaking as just me. But speaking as a moderator, I

am sensitive to SPAM on this list, and I do not feel Duncan's offer of

SomaLife was in the least bit SPAM. It turns out he was mistaken and

I feel had he known that, he would have phrased the offer differently.

Were Duncan some new guy who made that error, I would have been a

lot more suspicious of his motives when the offer turned out to be not

as he said. But Duncan is not a new guy to this list. IMO (as a

moderator) he has a good reputation here.

Alobar

On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Theta <calblonde1@...> wrote:

>

> I have been a member of this group for a long time.   I have not read one

piece of information from Duncan that was valuable to me.  My understanding is

that he doesn't have professional credentials.  Even if he did, it still would

be considered spam. That is the point here.

>

> The point is profiting from pushing this SomaLife product.  That is all my

point was and is.  Like I said, many of us could suggest products for a profit. 

That would spiral this group out of control.  Every group I belong to has this

strict policy...it work well.

>

> I only was agreeing with another list member on her comment about spam to this

group.  That is all.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Excellent said, Alobar, and thanks Duncan for letting me feel healthier, than I

was 15 year ago.

Me and you are in " one boat " - age, diabetes, diet profile, life problems, ets -

I've tried too many advices

and only Duncan's were my turning point. 

 

Pasha

________________________________

From: Alobar <Alobar@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2009 5:03:53 PM

Subject: Re: Re: FREE SomaLife gHP $90 value - OT

 

That may be true for you, Theta, but Duncan has helped me immensely

over the years.

Because I am both diabetic who does not take diabetic drugs, and also

have extreme sensitivity to oxalates in my foods, my diet is, by

necessity, far too low in fiber. I tried other fibers. They tasted

bad, and/or did not do much for my chronic constipation. Inulin

fiber was suggested by Duncan. I have been using inulin for at least

5-1/2 years now. Inulin has really improved my life.

I used to be on a high meat diet. High meat diets are not healthy

long-term. When Duncan began talking about whey, I listened. Now,

I have whey two meals every day (no solid foods) with inulin, coconut

oil, fish oil, and cod liver oil. So I only desire as small (1/3

pound) piece of meat, once a day. Duncan's information on whey has

enabled me to reduce meat intake, and whey s less expensive than

eating 2 pounds of meat every day.

Duncan wrote about his modification of the Budwig protocol. Because

of Duncan's writings, I now squish fish oil around in my mouth with my

morning whey. The Budwig protocol is not only for those with cancer,

but is also good for folks like me who want to avoid getting cancer.

When I fist started reading material by Duncan, I was skeptical.

Many people give health advice. Most of them I came to distrust

because they had an axe to grind, or because their advice contradicted

things I had learned from other health experts. So I am skeptical any

time I bump into a new expert. However, I did not remain suspicious.

Now I look forward to reading Duncan's posts & dialogs with others

on this list. Duncan is someone whose thoughts on supplements and

diet I have learned to trust.

The above is me speaking as just me. But speaking as a moderator, I

am sensitive to SPAM on this list, and I do not feel Duncan's offer of

SomaLife was in the least bit SPAM. It turns out he was mistaken and

I feel had he known that, he would have phrased the offer differently.

Were Duncan some new guy who made that error, I would have been a

lot more suspicious of his motives when the offer turned out to be not

as he said. But Duncan is not a new guy to this list. IMO (as a

moderator) he has a good reputation here.

Alobar

On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Theta <calblonde1 (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> I have been a member of this group for a long time.   I have not read one

piece of information from Duncan that was valuable to me.  My understanding is

that he doesn't have professional credentials.  Even if he did, it still would

be considered spam. That is the point here.

>

> The point is profiting from pushing this SomaLife product.  That is all my

point was and is.  Like I said, many of us could suggest products for a profit. 

That would spiral this group out of control.  Every group I belong to has this

strict policy...it work well.

>

> I only was agreeing with another list member on her comment about spam to this

group.  That is all.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am not discounting your experiences or anybody's elses here.  I was just

relating mine, as you have yours.  I have been an active member of the local

chapter of the Weston A Price Foundation for many years,so, I guess I have been

very lucky to have an embarrassment of riches as far as nutritional knowledge is

concerned.  If interested in enriching your nutrition knowledge, I highly

recommend their website.

 

Thanks for sharing your experiences overcoming your diabetes.  I enjoy reading

people's triumphs.

 

Keep up the good work.

 

>

> I have been a member of this group for a long time.   I have not read one

piece of information from Duncan that was valuable to me.  My understanding is

that he doesn't have professional credentials.  Even if he did, it still would

be considered spam. That is the point here.

>

> The point is profiting from pushing this SomaLife product.  That is all my

point was and is.  Like I said, many of us could suggest products for a profit. 

That would spiral this group out of control.  Every group I belong to has this

strict policy...it work well.

>

> I only was agreeing with another list member on her comment about spam to this

group.  That is all.

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I doubt it - it's still spam. And I doubt anyone who thinks twice about it

would want to put all these isolated/synthetic ingredients in their body

when the " real " form of them can be obtained from whole foods.

L-Lysine, L-Arginine, L-Ornithine, L-Glutamine, Glycine, Leucine,

Iso-Leucine, Valine, Magnesium stearate (a lubricant used to assist the

encapsulation process).

By the way, I'm just curious, how much money are you making off of everybody

on all the many lists you are on?

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ZrBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEyMjkzOQRncnBzcElkAzE3MDcwMzI4MjQEbXNnSWQDNjY0Mj

cEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTI1NDY2MTkxOA-->

Carol

Posted by: " DuncanC "

<mailto:duncancrow@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20FREE%20SomaLife%20gHP%20%2490%

20value%20-%20OT> duncancrow@...

<duncancrow> duncancrow

Maybe she also wanted everyone to get a bottle for free like I did? I since

found out that it's only possible if more people get involved; the bottles

are still going out but you can send only ONE per new autoship sign-up, and

your friend can cancel autoship any time, presumably after she also sends

out a free bottle. I'd still like to see everyone get one, and I've done all

I can do.

Duncan

[Guest guest]

Carol, you still don't understand the science; as you've just written the same

argument that you did two years ago.

I think the salient point to repeat is that peoples' options for increasing HGH

is limited to refined amino acids, GMO/synthetic HGH shots, colostrum, or a new

drug.

Not whole food; assorted amino acids compromize the HGH release trigger.

So, in the end, you do it or you wither; that's the nature of anti-aging

all good,

Duncan

>And I doubt anyone who thinks twice about it

> would want to put all these isolated/synthetic ingredients in their body

> when the " real " form of them can be obtained from whole foods.

>

>

> L-Lysine, L-Arginine, L-Ornithine, L-Glutamine, Glycine, Leucine,

> Iso-Leucine, Valine, Magnesium stearate (a lubricant used to assist the

> encapsulation process).

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, I do understand, very well. What I don't understand is what you and

others have against whole foods, whole live healing foods.

Carol

Posted by: " DuncanC "

<mailto:duncancrow@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20FREE%20SomaLife%20gHP%20%2490%

20value%20-%20OT> duncancrow@...

<duncancrow> duncancrow

Carol, you still don't understand the science; as you've just written the

same argument that you did two years ago.

I think the salient point to repeat is that peoples' options for increasing

HGH is limited to refined amino acids, GMO/synthetic HGH shots, colostrum,

or a new drug.

Not whole food; assorted amino acids compromize the HGH release trigger.

So, in the end, you do it or you wither; that's the nature of anti-aging

all good,

Duncan

[Guest guest]

I personally am all about diet. As far as I am concerned diet alone, followed

diligently, will eventually reverse candida issues. However some whole food

supplements such as antifungals and probiotics help the process. As far as I

know Duncan agrees with diet being key as well.

I'm not sure why he doesn't mention that as often as he mentions whey, but

perhaps he assumes most are already following an adequate diet. I've seen many

cure themselves without whey and with diet alone so to me that is key. I also

have seen many who are following diets that are inadequate so that is the first

thing I talk about before any supplement.

As far as I am concerned there are too many people asking about this or that

supplement, and not sharing what they are eating and how that is working for

them. My focus is a) diet and diet compliance through support. Anything

else is secondary.

Luv, Debby in San , CA

Student: Nutrition Certification and PhD in Psychology

Website: http://www.naturallythriving.com

----- Original Message ----

> From: Carol Minnick

>

> Yes, I do understand, very well. What I don't understand is what you and

> others have against whole foods, whole live healing foods.

[Guest guest]

I agree with you Debby on the diet, but some very important thing have to be

supplemented to the diet becauce the food we have today, even organic, is so

depleted of trace element.

From my aspect on health which is from an electrical view. We get our ability

to sustain our life force from minerals, amino acids, and water. All 3 three of

these elements are severely deficient in todays food. The other missing element

in todays food chain is microorganisms, most importantly soil born type. These

soil born microorganisms are the majority of our immune system and

digestion/assimulation.

And missing just one, namely the BOD strain, will potentially lead to 2,500

health issues.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath

________________________________

From: Debby Padilla-Hudson <debbypadilla@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2009 9:54:58 PM

Subject: Re: Re: FREE SomaLife gHP $90 value - OT

I personally am all about diet. As far as I am concerned diet alone, followed

diligently, will eventually reverse candida issues. However some whole food

supplements such as antifungals and probiotics help the process. As far as I

know Duncan agrees with diet being key as well.

I'm not sure why he doesn't mention that as often as he mentions whey, but

perhaps he assumes most are already following an adequate diet. I've seen many

cure themselves without whey and with diet alone so to me that is key. I also

have seen many who are following diets that are inadequate so that is the first

thing I talk about before any supplement.

As far as I am concerned there are too many people asking about this or that

supplement, and not sharing what they are eating and how that is working for

them. My focus is a) diet and diet compliance through support. Anything

else is secondary.

Luv, Debby in San , CA

Student: Nutrition Certification and PhD in Psychology

Website: http://www.naturall ythriving. com

----- Original Message ----

> From: Carol Minnick

>

> Yes, I do understand, very well. What I don't understand is what you and

> others have against whole foods, whole live healing foods.

[Guest guest]

Carol, you have asked this question before and the answer is still not to your

liking, that we all love whole foods, but edification prevails over preference.

Sometimes a purified form, or even a crude concentration of a whole food, as in

the case of whey powder and inulin, can do things the food itself can not; there

are many other examples.

all good,

Duncan

>

>

> Yes, I do understand, very well. What I don't understand is what you and

> others have against whole foods, whole live healing foods.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry Duncan, your two examples show me that you still do not understand what a

whole food is, even though I've tried to explain it to you many times.

Whey and Inulin are not concentrations of whole foods - they may be a purified

form or a concentration of an ISOLATE of a whole food, but they are not whole

foods concentrated.

Whey is the liquid remaining after milk has been curdled and strained; it is a

by-product of the manufacture of cheese or casein - see, not a whole food - it

is one of the components/isolates of milk.

Inulin is a part of a plant - it is not the whole plant. To get an inulin

supplement, companies extract it from the whole food. Artichoke has inulin in

it, but inulin is not a concentration of an artichoke. Inulin is a

concentration of an isolated part of an artichoke.

I'm sure you and I will never agree on what is healthy for one's body. You are

always pushing the isolated/synthetic supplements and I know your body doesn't

need them - it needs food.

Carol

>

> Sometimes a purified form, or even a crude concentration of a whole food, as

in the case of whey powder and inulin, can do things the food itself can not;

there are many other examples.

>

> all good,

> Duncan

[Guest guest]

I have a large garden and other enriching experiences that you don't give me

credit for, Carol. If I don't know what a whole food is I never will, and none

of the whole foods I'm familiar with can yield the glutathione precursors

contained in a scoop of whey powder, so I use a crude extract. Many other

examples exist but I wasted my time listing them for you last time and I won't

repeat them

I skipped nearly all of your last rant. Have a great life.

Duncan

> >

> > Sometimes a purified form, or even a crude concentration of a whole food, as

in the case of whey powder and inulin, can do things the food itself can not;

there are many other examples.

> >

> > all good,

> > Duncan

>

[Guest guest]

Excellent post.

All not good

==================

algaelady1 wrote:

> Sorry Duncan, your two examples show me that you still do not understand what

a whole food is, even though I've tried to explain it to you many times.

>

> Whey and Inulin are not concentrations of whole foods - they may be a purified

form or a concentration of an ISOLATE of a whole food, but they are not whole

foods concentrated.

>

> Whey is the liquid remaining after milk has been curdled and strained; it is a

by-product of the manufacture of cheese or casein - see, not a whole food - it

is one of the components/isolates of milk.

>

> Inulin is a part of a plant - it is not the whole plant. To get an inulin

supplement, companies extract it from the whole food. Artichoke has inulin in

it, but inulin is not a concentration of an artichoke. Inulin is a

concentration of an isolated part of an artichoke.

>

> I'm sure you and I will never agree on what is healthy for one's body. You

are always pushing the isolated/synthetic supplements and I know your body

doesn't need them - it needs food.

>

> Carol

>

>

>

>

>> Sometimes a purified form, or even a crude concentration of a whole food, as

in the case of whey powder and inulin, can do things the food itself can not;

there are many other examples.

>>

>> all good,

>> Duncan

[Guest guest]

What I speak is gospel.

What others speak is rant, or guess work.

not all good

----------------------------------------------------

DuncanC wrote:

> I have a large garden and other enriching experiences that you don't give me

credit for, Carol. If I don't know what a whole food is I never will, and none

of the whole foods I'm familiar with can yield the glutathione precursors

contained in a scoop of whey powder, so I use a crude extract. Many other

examples exist but I wasted my time listing them for you last time and I won't

repeat them

>

> I skipped nearly all of your last rant. Have a great life.

>

> Duncan

>

>

>

>

>>

>>> Sometimes a purified form, or even a crude concentration of a whole food, as

in the case of whey powder and inulin, can do things the food itself can not;

there are many other examples.

>>>

>>> all good,

>>> Duncan

[Guest guest]

Luv, Debby in San , CA

Student: Nutrition Certification and PhD in Psychology

Website: http://www.naturallythriving.com

Group: curingcandida/

Good point about trace elements. It can be helpful to supplement a bit but even

there I like whole food supplements like Standard Process the best. Also a lot

of people need to add iodine to counteract fluoridated water. Personally I find

that chromium supplementation is the most critical for me.

Luv,

Debby

----- Original Message ----

> From: Wil Spencer

>

> I agree with you Debby on the diet, but some very important thing have to be

> supplemented to the diet becauce the food we have today, even organic, is so

> depleted of trace element.

> From my aspect on health which is from an electrical view. We get our ability

> to sustain our life force from minerals, amino acids, and water. All 3 three

of

> these elements are severely deficient in todays food. The other missing

element

> in todays food chain is microorganisms, most importantly soil born type.

These

> soil born microorganisms are the majority of our immune system and

> digestion/assimulation.

> And missing just one, namely the BOD strain, will potentially lead to 2,500

> health issues.

>

> Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath

[Guest guest]

Luv, Debby in San , CA

Student: Nutrition Certification and PhD in Psychology

Website: http://www.naturallythriving.com

Group: curingcandida/

Hello Will,

I forgot to ask in my last message, what is your opinion of our program for

Candida (specifically diet):

http://www.naturallythriving.com/basics/cfd.php

Would you do anything differently?

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

----- Original Message ----

> From: Wil Spencer

>

> I agree with you Debby on the diet, but some very important thing have to be

> supplemented to the diet becauce the food we have today, even organic, is so

> depleted of trace element.

> From my aspect on health which is from an electrical view. We get our ability

> to sustain our life force from minerals, amino acids, and water. All 3 three

of

> these elements are severely deficient in todays food. The other missing

element

> in todays food chain is microorganisms, most importantly soil born type.

These

> soil born microorganisms are the majority of our immune system and

> digestion/assimulation.

> And missing just one, namely the BOD strain, will potentially lead to 2,500

> health issues.

>

> Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath

[Guest guest]

________________________________

Debby,

I viewed your site. We have a lot of the same approach. With my research and

clinical experience you are still about the symptom relief angel. In my book I

explain this very simply. When you know how and what to feed the body

biologically and electrically correct, the body actually does most of the work

on its own.

Wil