Re: Wil-question about Candidas

[Guest guest]

Diane, what are you taking to become more alkaline? i drink baking soda

every once in a while due to that being the only thing that helps my

interstitial cystitis bladder problem and that ends up making me more alkaline

too.

however, im afraid its going to make my stomach more alkaline too and make

the candida worse, i dont know, im confused with all that

In a message dated 8/12/2010 11:24:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

elwynevenstar@... writes:

, I'm just trying to become more alkaline, trying different things to

achieve this. Candida and cancer to btw cannot live in an alkaline body.

So that's just one thing. Trouble I'm having with it is consistancy---I'll

get to the end of the day and realize I either forgot to do it or only did

it once.

Diane

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[Guest guest]

, I'm just trying to become more alkaline, trying different things to

achieve this. Candida and cancer to btw cannot live in an alkaline body.

So that's just one thing. Trouble I'm having with it is consistancy---I'll

get to the end of the day and realize I either forgot to do it or only did

it once.

Diane

[Guest guest]

I think it was about food reactions---what foods you are allergic to--if

memory serves me right. It's ok--not a big deal at all. I had just never

heard of it and was interested. My insurance doesn't cover expensive

allergy testing right now like the skin testing so that was why it peaked my

interest.

Diane

[Guest guest]

Wil, you are so full of it sometimes. I'm getting a little tired of you

acting like you are God's authority on everything related to

candidiasis---and acting like you are the official advisor on here now. Maybe

you are,

maybe I'm all wet. I think you should just let other people have their own

opinions and stop trying to push everyone around all the time. I kept

trying to bite my tongue but could no longer keep it in. I won't say anything

else about it--only this once. But please don't EVER advise me on anything

( unless I should ask you which I highly doubt I will)---that's all I ask.

You are VERY full of it regarding this ph thing. Do more research

because you are wrong on this one Dear. I don't want to argue with you at all

though--I can see it would be pointless anyhow with your type of

personality. Advise away if that is your role on here. Just never to me.

Diane

[Guest guest]

Ok, you may be right but I gotta tell you----after researching this subject

since approx 1997, this is the FIRST I have heard of this. I'm sure

Wil is praising the Lord that you () agree with him on this---unless

I'm reading this too fast and have it wrong which is certainly possible.

Forgive me if I read it all incorrectly. I don't have time right now to read

the whole thing over again right now. Anyhow if you guys are right I will

once again have to reorganize and relook at my whole diet again and entire

system again. But I think the world of who started the

Arise and Shine colon cleansing program and company and has authored books

on the subject as well and I am pretty confident he would not agree with you

guys about all this. We'll see. Later,

Diane

[Guest guest]

I don't always agree with , and I often don't agree with Wil, but I want to

second them on this. Consuming baking soda is just putting more pressure on

your stomach to make the acid it needs to properly assimilate food.

greg

>

> Ok, you may be right but I gotta tell you----after researching this subject

> since approx 1997, this is the FIRST I have heard of this. I'm sure

> Wil is praising the Lord that you () agree with him on this---unless

> I'm reading this too fast and have it wrong which is certainly possible.

> Forgive me if I read it all incorrectly. I don't have time right now to

read

> the whole thing over again right now. Anyhow if you guys are right I will

> once again have to reorganize and relook at my whole diet again and entire

> system again. But I think the world of who started the

> Arise and Shine colon cleansing program and company and has authored books

> on the subject as well and I am pretty confident he would not agree with you

> guys about all this. We'll see. Later,

> Diane

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am sorry you feel that way, Diane. This is a hell of a path we are on when

there is so many different and conflicting ideas to deal with and what appears

as one problem.

The truth from my view is there is only one problem, and that is an imbalance

within us. There are several ways to fix it and my way is only one. The

testimonies speak for themselves.

One piece of advise though, Diane, after just speaking with Nieema and we both

agree as the energies on the planet are shifting which is effecting all living

organisms on this planet we live on, this is a forum to share our ideas and

information to help each other. The goal is to help you to regain your balance

and sometimes we all need a kick in the pants so we do not completely fall and

hit our head. The energy you give out with these posts are a clear example of

this. I can appreciate letting it out, but be careful with the dagors and

arrows, that is unhealthy.

And yes, I do consider myself an authority on candidiasis from a natural point

of view. And one more thing is I give thanks to GOD daily for the information I

have gathered and am able to share with all of you.

Like Nieema has said before, please take a second look at your posts and take a

few breaths and think about what you are saying and where is the energy coming

from that you are putting out in your posts. Is it from your heart or from your

head and ego.

Thank you for venting, Diane. Venting is healthy if you are really venting.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

________________________________

From: " elwynevenstar@... " <elwynevenstar@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Thu, August 12, 2010 11:56:30 PM

Subject: Re: Wil-question about Candidas

Wil, you are so full of it sometimes. I'm getting a little tired of you

acting like you are God's authority on everything related to

candidiasis---and acting like you are the official advisor on here now. Maybe

you are,

maybe I'm all wet. I think you should just let other people have their own

opinions and stop trying to push everyone around all the time. I kept

trying to bite my tongue but could no longer keep it in. I won't say anything

else about it--only this once. But please don't EVER advise me on anything

( unless I should ask you which I highly doubt I will)---that's all I ask.

You are VERY full of it regarding this ph thing. Do more research

because you are wrong on this one Dear. I don't want to argue with you at all

though--I can see it would be pointless anyhow with your type of

personality. Advise away if that is your role on here. Just never to me.

Diane

[Guest guest]

I understand Diane in the sense that everyone has a different opinion and it's

hard to know which one is best suited for us, like i explained in a former post

and it also drives me nuts because i cant find a way out as i dont know who to

believe.

So this morning I went to see that doctor specialised in traditional Chinese

medecine. He tests the metabolism to check which organ is weaker and if u're

more yin or yang, so basically i'm more yin and my weaker organ is the bladder,

from this he can help me find my balance back and then health back. only there's

also a diet going with this, i have to eat yang food which means bread and

grains for 50% and there u go! again a contradiction! he didnt test me positive

for candidiasis! while my blood says i have high antibodies to it but i've never

felt I had candidas because i dont have all these symptoms most people talk

about, I can tell u this is madness, i shd never have gone there because now i

feel even more confused! I dont know if i should believe my blood or my energy

vibration! CRAP

________________________________

From: Wil Spencer <wilspencer@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Fri, August 13, 2010 7:48:44 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Wil-question about Candidas

I am sorry you feel that way, Diane. This is a hell of a path we are on when

there is so many different and conflicting ideas to deal with and what appears

as one problem.

The truth from my view is there is only one problem, and that is an imbalance

within us. There are several ways to fix it and my way is only one. The

testimonies speak for themselves.

One piece of advise though, Diane, after just speaking with Nieema and we both

agree as the energies on the planet are shifting which is effecting all living

organisms on this planet we live on, this is a forum to share our ideas and

information to help each other. The goal is to help you to regain your balance

and sometimes we all need a kick in the pants so we do not completely fall and

hit our head. The energy you give out with these posts are a clear example of

this. I can appreciate letting it out, but be careful with the dagors and

arrows, that is unhealthy.

And yes, I do consider myself an authority on candidiasis from a natural point

of view. And one more thing is I give thanks to GOD daily for the information I

have gathered and am able to share with all of you.

Like Nieema has said before, please take a second look at your posts and take a

few breaths and think about what you are saying and where is the energy coming

from that you are putting out in your posts. Is it from your heart or from your

head and ego.

Thank you for venting, Diane. Venting is healthy if you are really venting.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

________________________________

From: " elwynevenstar@... " <elwynevenstar@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Thu, August 12, 2010 11:56:30 PM

Subject: Re: Wil-question about Candidas

Wil, you are so full of it sometimes. I'm getting a little tired of you

acting like you are God's authority on everything related to

candidiasis---and acting like you are the official advisor on here now. Maybe

you are,

maybe I'm all wet. I think you should just let other people have their own

opinions and stop trying to push everyone around all the time. I kept

trying to bite my tongue but could no longer keep it in. I won't say anything

else about it--only this once. But please don't EVER advise me on anything

( unless I should ask you which I highly doubt I will)---that's all I ask.

You are VERY full of it regarding this ph thing. Do more research

because you are wrong on this one Dear. I don't want to argue with you at all

though--I can see it would be pointless anyhow with your type of

personality. Advise away if that is your role on here. Just never to me.

Diane

[Guest guest]

The entire GI tract is an acid environment and the rest of the body should be

alkaline.

If your body is creating enzymes like is should and of course you are eating

like you should and the intestines have a broad spectrum of microorganism and

the entire GI tract is working like it should the metabolism of the the food

chyme will keep the acid in the GI tract and make the body alkaline providing

your not in a fear state of emotions. The body, in its knowing does the rest.

In order for all this to work right and the ph to be were it needs, requires

quite a balancing act. That is how I help you, I help you get to a balanced

state and help you keep that balance with your diet and emotions. Knowing what

to feed the body so it can take care of itself is a huge key.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

www.bodyelectrician.com

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From: Myslis <smyslis1@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 7:40:08 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Wil-question about Candidas

I'm feeling stupid at the moment. Doctors have told me that yes, the stomach

needs to be acidic but the rest of the body should be alkaline. That's why HCL

is effective, because it keeps the stomach acidic, but only the stomach. Is

this guy saying that the whole body should be acidic? Or just the stomach and

vagina? If he's saying it's the whole body, that would be quite different from

what most people say!

________________________________

From: Carolyn <carolynmil@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 4:36:44 PM

Subject: Re: Wil-question about Candidas

Copied from Dr. McComb's website: http://drmccombs.wordpress.com/

Myth #5 †" Pathogenic Candida requires an acid pH environment to grow

This is another common myth put out by people who think everything is supposed

to be alkaline in the body. The digestive tract is supposed to be acid and

doesn’t even approach alkalinity until the rectum. The vaginal tissue is

also

supposed to be acidic.

The lactic acid bacteria produce lactic acid to help maintain an acid pH. The

stomach is very acidic, and the acidity of juices leaving the stomach helps to

stimulate pancreatic function, as well as maintain the proper acid pH of the

intestinal tract. Bile acids also contribute to maintaining the acid pH. In an

acid environment, candida exists in its yeast form, but once that starts to

shift to a more alakline environment, the alkaline pH stimulates the conversion

to the pathogenic, fungal form. The same is true for E. Coli. In an acid

environment, it plays a role in the production of vitamin K for the body. In an

alkaline environment it becomes the pathogenic form that causes so many problems

for people. Fungal Candida does extremely well in an akaline environment such as

the blood stream.

> >

> > Except for apple cider vinegar with the mother. Taking this on a regular

> > basis helps our ph become more alkaline. I was reading today alot of stuff

> > about the formula of baking soda and maple syrup to do the same thing on a

> > higher stronger level---they are also using this for cancer.

> > And one little nugget re this is: Be careful not to use the Arm and

> > Hammer kind of baking soda because it contains aluminum. They said to buy

the

>

>

> >

> > Bob's Red Mill aluminum free kind found at most health food stores and

> > probably Trader Joe's. M aybe you guys already know this but I didn't until

> > today.

> > Diane

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Greetings All

In speaking with Wil I did not know the person he was speaking of.

Diane and I have had a bit of conversation, if you wnat to call it such, just in

the last week or so.

I will just say this to her...again and to anyone else that feels as if Wil had

become the ??? We are all on this list to help each other.

I do the best I can to listen and make things work for us all.

Since 2002 I have been your moderator and will remain so for a while longer. To

continue, I will become a bit more intolerant of the way I am spoken to and for

sure the way people speak to others on this list.

In the past, I have been that mom that says...now now,...but, from now on, I

will be firmer.

Diane is now not able to post to the group for a while...AT all!

Once she is able to calm down...she will be back with us....or not.

This is what I will be doing when there are porblems...and the step after that

is to put the person off the group.

I am sorry I did not do these things before...but I am now!

August 15th is Peace Day...those of you that are on Facebook look it up and join

in if you would like!

I would love for this list to be at Peace!

Nuff said

>

> I am sorry you feel that way, Diane. This is a hell of a path we are on when

> there is so many different and conflicting ideas to deal with and what appears

> as one problem.

>

> The truth from my view is there is only one problem, and that is an imbalance

> within us. There are several ways to fix it and my way is only one. The

> testimonies speak for themselves.

>

> One piece of advise though, Diane, after just speaking with Nieema and we both

> agree as the energies on the planet are shifting which is effecting all living

> organisms on this planet we live on, this is a forum to share our ideas and

> information to help each other. The goal is to help you to regain your balance

> and sometimes we all need a kick in the pants so we do not completely fall and

> hit our head. The energy you give out with these posts are a clear example of

> this. I can appreciate letting it out, but be careful with the dagors and

> arrows, that is unhealthy.

>

> And yes, I do consider myself an authority on candidiasis from a natural point

> of view. And one more thing is I give thanks to GOD daily for the information

I

> have gathered and am able to share with all of you.

>

> Like Nieema has said before, please take a second look at your posts and take

a

> few breaths and think about what you are saying and where is the energy coming

> from that you are putting out in your posts. Is it from your heart or from

your

> head and ego.

>

> Thank you for venting, Diane. Venting is healthy if you are really venting.

>

> Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

>