Guest guest Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 , how about fruits? Also, I usually use unsweetened soy milk in my coffee. Would there be something better? Thanks and I am going to look into that book. Doug From: <dieguez.jorge@...> Subject: Re: Wil-question about Candidas candidiasis Date: Saturday, August 7, 2010, 11:09 AM Â You don't need to exclude grains from your diet. Beans, brown rice, yams, sweet potatoes, potatoes, yucca, malanga root, quinoa, millet, buckwheat can be eaten. Eliminate refined carbos, corn, soy, vinegar, vanilla, gluten and casein if you react to them. Malt and Sugar are the worst offender. > > > > You know I keep reading over & over on here that eating " grains " as it > > is always phrased is not ok---however on just about every candida website > > and every book on it I've ever read (and that's quite a few btw), says > > certain grains are fine. I realize it's individual but a newbie reading these > > > > > > pages for the first time might think it's across the board--that eating > > grains is absotutely forbidden. Brown rice has always worked out for me and > > there are several others that all the literature says is USUALLY alright. > > Just saying it's confusing and for vegetarians it's almost impossible not to > > have certain ones. If you react to one then you cut it out of course. > > Diane > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Wil, I believe this really but my point is this: do we have enough years of study for a high fat and protein diet? how do we know eating excessive fat and proteins is not bad? cos ok grains are not good but in x years time we'll say the same about other food items, you know it's never ending and then sudies will show that this wasnt bad in the end that we got it wrong.. I guess we have to eat a bit of everything as long as it is in its nature form. I still eat spelt now and then like today I had a bit too much of spelt bread, I can feel it's not doing me any favour but I so craved it! well now I wont it spelt for weeks so it's fine.we also have to live you know, food is so important to me right now that i'd suffer more from being deprived than from actually eating it. carox ________________________________ From: Wil Spencer <wilspencer@...> candidiasis Sent: Sat, August 7, 2010 5:48:24 PM Subject: Re: Re: Wil-question about Candidas Here is a partial list of grain, nuts, seeds and tuber associated health problems; Acne Allergies Asthma Adrenal/Thyroid Exhaustion Bone loss/Osteo diseases Colitis Constipation Depression/Anxiety Diarrhea Dry skin and itchiness Extreme mineral deficiency Chronic Fatigue Hand and foot fungus Carbohydrate cravings Gas/Bloating Heart burn Hemorrhoids High/Low blood sugar Hormonal imbalances ADD/ADHD Indigestion Insomnia IBS Iron Deficiency Malabsorption Lupus Fibromyalcia Infertility Menstrual problems Lack of libido Prostate problems Obesity Teeth cavities PMS Premature aging Joint pain Lethargic Puffy eyes/ sunken eyes Respiratory problems Skin rashes/Hives Ulcers Candida overgrowth Crohn's disease Colon cancer Ulcerative colitis Gluten intolerance Lactose intolerance Diabetes Hopefully you get the idea of the negative impact on the human body. Usually the case is the diet first, leading to the hormonal imbalance, leading to the fight or flight mode. We are mind/body. One effects the other. You can not successfully heal the body without healing the mind or vice/verse. Food for the body is a paramount item to be concerned with as well as food for the mind. In order for the mind to work correctly it has requirements from the body; rest, no stress, amino acids, oxygen, minerals to name the main items. Grains, nuts, seeds and tubers cause great stress in the body so you are not able to rest well, shuts off your enzyme production so you are not able to assimilate amino acids or mineral, kills off most of the probiotics in our GI tract which is our immunity, vitamin creators, shuts off the natural chelation ability, disrupts our hormone balance, shall I go on? Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: Caroline Croon <carolinecroon@...> candidiasis Sent: Sat, August 7, 2010 3:28:14 AM Subject: Re: Re: Wil-question about Candidas Wil, I can understand this but you know so many people on carbs are very healthy or have been very healthy all their lives so I'm pretty sure food is not THE thing we have to be careful about. Like you said the fight and flight response and stress are really important to keep at bay, even more than food I think. Thank you for the explanations, I agree to some extent but like I said I'm not ready to exclude grains of my diet. ________________________________ From: Wil Spencer <wilspencer@...> candidiasis Sent: Fri, August 6, 2010 11:27:41 PM Subject: Re: Re: Wil-question about Candidas , you are a funny person. My clinical observation and research data is not speculation. Your research is quite limited. It may help you to get a bigger picture of the carbohydrate addiction and candida epidemic if you look in bigger arenas for information, than just relying on allopathic medical research as the allopathic world is producing research studies to justify the use of more synthetic pharmaceutical drugs, selling you more testing and procedures to profit from. You should try reading the book " Protein Power " by a Medical Doctor, Eades, MD. He has some fabulous insight to dispute your science claims, . My favorite bit of information is his quote " The amount of carbohydrates a human needs for optimal health is zero " the healthy body creates its energy from amino acids and minerals not carbohydrates. A diet with carbohydrates, meaning grain, nuts, seeds and tubers for the most part, cause a host of ailments like diabetes, allergies, candidiasis, thyroid issues, digestive issues like constipation, hemorrhoids, IBS, ulceritive colitis, crohn's disease, colon cancer, just to name a few, are very evil for the human body to consume, in my opinion. One of the biggest issues I see is the emotional instability in people. As your system degenerates and spirals down hill the hormones that regulate balance and health are diminished as the fungus gains a stronger hold and you become confused easier, upset and frustrated easier, your have less patience for ignorance, and your fight and flight nature becomes the dominant factor for survival. I do agree with you, , there is not concrete anti-candida diet. The truth of the matter is the fungal/candida over growth is a result of several factors and the diet is one of them. Some of the others are; in nature fungus/candida over growths are just a result of severely degenerated organism and nature is in the process of recycling that sick and dying organism back into nature for food for another organism, another reason for the over growth is the human is eating what is feeding the fungus/candida is high amounts and it is a fact that fungus/candida proliferate best on carbohydrates, a very important fact is fungus/candida proliferate very well in a body that is emotionally upset, in the fight or flight mode, a body that is fearful, anxious, quilt laden or sad and feeling alone. These are not speculations that I have mentions, this is clinical research data from my personal experience. Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: <dieguez.jorge@...> candidiasis Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 10:44:30 PM Subject: Re: Wil-question about Candidas Diane, The low carbohydrate diet to eradicate candida isn't proved by science. In fact, a very restrictive diet will weak you more and isn't benefical. It has been clear since Dr. Trowbridge wrote his book during the 80s. One of the best anticandida diet I am aware of was developed by Dr. Bruce Semon, a MD who also hold a PhD in nutrition. His son got sick with a problem linked to candida and Dr. Semon did every possible effort to researchs and develops an effective anticandida diet to treat his own son. After that, a book was written which explains this diet. " Feast without Yeast " This diet allows some grains, starch, and other food that you normally are told don't eat. There isn't an standart anticandida diet totally proved. The rest you hear around is just speculation. . > > You know I keep reading over & over on here that eating " grains " as it > is always phrased is not ok---however on just about every candida website > and every book on it I've ever read (and that's quite a few btw), says > certain grains are fine. I realize it's individual but a newbie reading these > > > > > pages for the first time might think it's across the board--that eating > grains is absotutely forbidden. Brown rice has always worked out for me and > there are several others that all the literature says is USUALLY alright. > Just saying it's confusing and for vegetarians it's almost impossible not to > have certain ones. If you react to one then you cut it out of course. > Diane > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Well, lets look at history for an example. Man has been on the planet for 1,000's of years if not millions. According to my Anthropological study man has been eating a diet of more animal products and wild fruits and vegetation longer than agriculture has been around, which is a mere few hundred years. Even 3,000 years ago from Egyptian history, their food production was not as harmful as we have today, and they were very careful to process their grains for about 14 days to protect them from the harmful ability of the grains. Your cravings are a by-product of being out of balance and malnourished. It is not a mystery. Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: Caroline Croon <carolinecroon@...> candidiasis Sent: Sat, August 7, 2010 3:25:51 PM Subject: Re: Re: Wil-question about Candidas Wil, I believe this really but my point is this: do we have enough years of study for a high fat and protein diet? how do we know eating excessive fat and proteins is not bad? cos ok grains are not good but in x years time we'll say the same about other food items, you know it's never ending and then sudies will show that this wasnt bad in the end that we got it wrong.. I guess we have to eat a bit of everything as long as it is in its nature form. I still eat spelt now and then like today I had a bit too much of spelt bread, I can feel it's not doing me any favour but I so craved it! well now I wont it spelt for weeks so it's fine.we also have to live you know, food is so important to me right now that i'd suffer more from being deprived than from actually eating it. carox ________________________________ From: Wil Spencer <wilspencer@...> candidiasis Sent: Sat, August 7, 2010 5:48:24 PM Subject: Re: Re: Wil-question about Candidas Here is a partial list of grain, nuts, seeds and tuber associated health problems; Acne Allergies Asthma Adrenal/Thyroid Exhaustion Bone loss/Osteo diseases Colitis Constipation Depression/Anxiety Diarrhea Dry skin and itchiness Extreme mineral deficiency Chronic Fatigue Hand and foot fungus Carbohydrate cravings Gas/Bloating Heart burn Hemorrhoids High/Low blood sugar Hormonal imbalances ADD/ADHD Indigestion Insomnia IBS Iron Deficiency Malabsorption Lupus Fibromyalcia Infertility Menstrual problems Lack of libido Prostate problems Obesity Teeth cavities PMS Premature aging Joint pain Lethargic Puffy eyes/ sunken eyes Respiratory problems Skin rashes/Hives Ulcers Candida overgrowth Crohn's disease Colon cancer Ulcerative colitis Gluten intolerance Lactose intolerance Diabetes Hopefully you get the idea of the negative impact on the human body. Usually the case is the diet first, leading to the hormonal imbalance, leading to the fight or flight mode. We are mind/body. One effects the other. You can not successfully heal the body without healing the mind or vice/verse. Food for the body is a paramount item to be concerned with as well as food for the mind. In order for the mind to work correctly it has requirements from the body; rest, no stress, amino acids, oxygen, minerals to name the main items. Grains, nuts, seeds and tubers cause great stress in the body so you are not able to rest well, shuts off your enzyme production so you are not able to assimilate amino acids or mineral, kills off most of the probiotics in our GI tract which is our immunity, vitamin creators, shuts off the natural chelation ability, disrupts our hormone balance, shall I go on? Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: Caroline Croon <carolinecroon@...> candidiasis Sent: Sat, August 7, 2010 3:28:14 AM Subject: Re: Re: Wil-question about Candidas Wil, I can understand this but you know so many people on carbs are very healthy or have been very healthy all their lives so I'm pretty sure food is not THE thing we have to be careful about. Like you said the fight and flight response and stress are really important to keep at bay, even more than food I think. Thank you for the explanations, I agree to some extent but like I said I'm not ready to exclude grains of my diet. ________________________________ From: Wil Spencer <wilspencer@...> candidiasis Sent: Fri, August 6, 2010 11:27:41 PM Subject: Re: Re: Wil-question about Candidas , you are a funny person. My clinical observation and research data is not speculation. Your research is quite limited. It may help you to get a bigger picture of the carbohydrate addiction and candida epidemic if you look in bigger arenas for information, than just relying on allopathic medical research as the allopathic world is producing research studies to justify the use of more synthetic pharmaceutical drugs, selling you more testing and procedures to profit from. You should try reading the book " Protein Power " by a Medical Doctor, Eades, MD. He has some fabulous insight to dispute your science claims, . My favorite bit of information is his quote " The amount of carbohydrates a human needs for optimal health is zero " the healthy body creates its energy from amino acids and minerals not carbohydrates. A diet with carbohydrates, meaning grain, nuts, seeds and tubers for the most part, cause a host of ailments like diabetes, allergies, candidiasis, thyroid issues, digestive issues like constipation, hemorrhoids, IBS, ulceritive colitis, crohn's disease, colon cancer, just to name a few, are very evil for the human body to consume, in my opinion. One of the biggest issues I see is the emotional instability in people. As your system degenerates and spirals down hill the hormones that regulate balance and health are diminished as the fungus gains a stronger hold and you become confused easier, upset and frustrated easier, your have less patience for ignorance, and your fight and flight nature becomes the dominant factor for survival. I do agree with you, , there is not concrete anti-candida diet. The truth of the matter is the fungal/candida over growth is a result of several factors and the diet is one of them. Some of the others are; in nature fungus/candida over growths are just a result of severely degenerated organism and nature is in the process of recycling that sick and dying organism back into nature for food for another organism, another reason for the over growth is the human is eating what is feeding the fungus/candida is high amounts and it is a fact that fungus/candida proliferate best on carbohydrates, a very important fact is fungus/candida proliferate very well in a body that is emotionally upset, in the fight or flight mode, a body that is fearful, anxious, quilt laden or sad and feeling alone. These are not speculations that I have mentions, this is clinical research data from my personal experience. Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: <dieguez.jorge@...> candidiasis Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 10:44:30 PM Subject: Re: Wil-question about Candidas Diane, The low carbohydrate diet to eradicate candida isn't proved by science. In fact, a very restrictive diet will weak you more and isn't benefical. It has been clear since Dr. Trowbridge wrote his book during the 80s. One of the best anticandida diet I am aware of was developed by Dr. Bruce Semon, a MD who also hold a PhD in nutrition. His son got sick with a problem linked to candida and Dr. Semon did every possible effort to researchs and develops an effective anticandida diet to treat his own son. After that, a book was written which explains this diet. " Feast without Yeast " This diet allows some grains, starch, and other food that you normally are told don't eat. There isn't an standart anticandida diet totally proved. The rest you hear around is just speculation. . > > You know I keep reading over & over on here that eating " grains " as it > is always phrased is not ok---however on just about every candida website > and every book on it I've ever read (and that's quite a few btw), says > certain grains are fine. I realize it's individual but a newbie reading these > > > > > > pages for the first time might think it's across the board--that eating > grains is absotutely forbidden. Brown rice has always worked out for me and > there are several others that all the literature says is USUALLY alright. > Just saying it's confusing and for vegetarians it's almost impossible not to > have certain ones. If you react to one then you cut it out of course. > Diane > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 If you are not vibrantly healthy, I would say no to the potatoes. If you can not say no to them then make sure you do not mix them with fruit or proteins. Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: " daisytiff228@... " <daisytiff228@...> candidiasis Sent: Sat, August 7, 2010 12:15:31 PM Subject: Re: Re: Wil-question about Candidas Potatoes are ok? In a message dated 8/7/2010 11:10:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dieguez.jorge@... writes: You don't need to exclude grains from your diet. Beans, brown rice, yams, sweet potatoes, potatoes, yucca, malanga root, quinoa, millet, buckwheat can be eaten. Eliminate refined carbos, corn, soy, vinegar, vanilla, gluten and casein if you react to them. Malt and Sugar are the worst offender. > > > > You know I keep reading over & over on here that eating " grains " as it > > is always phrased is not ok---however on just about every candida website > > and every book on it I've ever read (and that's quite a few btw), says > > certain grains are fine. I realize it's individual but a newbie reading these > > > > > > pages for the first time might think it's across the board--that eating > > grains is absotutely forbidden. Brown rice has always worked out for me and > > there are several others that all the literature says is USUALLY alright. > > Just saying it's confusing and for vegetarians it's almost impossible not to > > have certain ones. If you react to one then you cut it out of course. > > Diane > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Hi everyone, First of all, I don't know how to trim a post. Sorry. I thought I did, but I don't. As for grains and carbs in general....I feel compelled to chime in because I honestly believe that for some people, anyway, carbs are detrimental to their health. I do believe that the cravings people experience are generally caused by candida dying. I can only speak from my own experience. I finally learned to ask myself,  " what is this craving I have? I feel like I must have (insert whatever....rice cakes, buckwheat pancakes, cashews, sweet potatoes)...I feel like I can never be satisfied unless I eat these things....but am I hungry? Am I truly hungry? What is this discomfort I feel? "  And the thing is I am never actually hungry at these times. I feel a discomfort, but after thinking about it for awhile or asking myself if I can live with it, I realize that I can, and then after a few minutes it goes away. We have all been trained to eat grains and carbs, and everyone around us eats them...so we think it's just the normal thing to do.... I really believe that what people feel when they say they cannot give up the foods they love is that these foods give them a certain feeling, which they are so used to that to suddenly not feel it feels unknown and intolerable. I mean an emotional feeling. I don't think it's a physiological need, other than to feed the candida. I know from experience how imperative this need feels. Everyone needs to find their own path and I'm sure each one here will find their own way. I simply feel that I should speak up and raise other questions about the necessity of grains. I'm at the library and I have to send this within two minutes so I will send it although it is incomplete. The question of whether grains and tubers are required for health is important and I don't have a scientific answer for that. A study was released by Temple University this month which followed people who ate an Atkins-type diet for two years. It found that people's HDL cholesterol was reduced by 23%. I am not mentioning this to prove that low-carb is good. I just thought it was interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 To eliminate candida you should stop coffee and soy. Anything fermented using Yeast and Fungus will damage you. Any fungus make chemicals that kill bacterias, so food elaborated with yeast fermentation will have chemicals that eliminate your friendly bacterias. If you eat food containing chemicals that kill bacterias, you will give the yeast more room to growth. Foods in the diet will influence how the yeast and bacterias regrow after antibiotic intake. The key is to leave the bacterias alone. > > > > > > > > You know I keep reading over & over on here that eating " grains " as it > > > > is always phrased is not ok---however on just about every candida website > > > > and every book on it I've ever read (and that's quite a few btw), says > > > > certain grains are fine. I realize it's individual but a newbie reading these > > > > > > > > > > > > pages for the first time might think it's across the board--that eating > > > > grains is absotutely forbidden. Brown rice has always worked out for me and > > > > there are several others that all the literature says is USUALLY alright. > > > > Just saying it's confusing and for vegetarians it's almost impossible not to > > > > have certain ones. If you react to one then you cut it out of course. > > > > Diane > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Chocolate and Vanilla are also made by yeast fermentation. > > > > > > > > > > > > You know I keep reading over & over on here that eating " grains " as it > > > > > > is always phrased is not ok---however on just about every candida website > > > > > > and every book on it I've ever read (and that's quite a few btw), says > > > > > > certain grains are fine. I realize it's individual but a newbie reading these > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages for the first time might think it's across the board--that eating > > > > > > grains is absotutely forbidden. Brown rice has always worked out for me and > > > > > > there are several others that all the literature says is USUALLY alright. > > > > > > Just saying it's confusing and for vegetarians it's almost impossible not to > > > > > > have certain ones. If you react to one then you cut it out of course. > > > > > > Diane > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 Except for apple cider vinegar with the mother. Taking this on a regular basis helps our ph become more alkaline. I was reading today alot of stuff about the formula of baking soda and maple syrup to do the same thing on a higher stronger level---they are also using this for cancer. And one little nugget re this is: Be careful not to use the Arm and Hammer kind of baking soda because it contains aluminum. They said to buy the Bob's Red Mill aluminum free kind found at most health food stores and probably Trader Joe's. M aybe you guys already know this but I didn't until today. Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 But where would I look for it Caroline? Online? Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 Doug, how in the world did you get used to the soy milk in your coffee I wonder? I tried this once and it was awful---in fact it didn't seem to really affect the coffee at all the way regular cream does or even at all. I am just having the worst time giving up coffee because the only way I can drink it is with half & half or cream. Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 In response to " potatoes are ok " ? I've read that the small red potatoes are safest--in moderation only--- but you will get a variety of opinions on this one. I try to have those once in a while but it is hard to stay away completely from the brown ones especially if you are eating breakfast in a restaurant! Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 Diane, An elevated intestinal Ph favors candida mutation to mycelial. So, I don't see any reason to try to rise your Ph. In fact, what promotes candida to mutate is lack of Acetic Acid, Lactic Acid, Butyric Acid, etc. > > Except for apple cider vinegar with the mother. Taking this on a regular > basis helps our ph become more alkaline. I was reading today alot of stuff > about the formula of baking soda and maple syrup to do the same thing on a > higher stronger level---they are also using this for cancer. > And one little nugget re this is: Be careful not to use the Arm and > Hammer kind of baking soda because it contains aluminum. They said to buy the > Bob's Red Mill aluminum free kind found at most health food stores and > probably Trader Joe's. M aybe you guys already know this but I didn't until > today. > Diane > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 i dont remember what we were talking about and to what your quetion is refering? was it the igg test? then I dont know, I do it with my doc so I cant help you.. ________________________________ From: " elwynevenstar@... " <elwynevenstar@...> candidiasis Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 12:42:57 AM Subject: Re: Wil-question about Candidas But where would I look for it Caroline? Online? Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 , isnt it the other way round? isnt it the low ph that favours candida overgrowth? ________________________________ From: <dieguez.jorge@...> candidiasis Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 3:13:57 AM Subject: Re: Wil-question about Candidas Diane, An elevated intestinal Ph favors candida mutation to mycelial. So, I don't see any reason to try to rise your Ph. In fact, what promotes candida to mutate is lack of Acetic Acid, Lactic Acid, Butyric Acid, etc. > > Except for apple cider vinegar with the mother. Taking this on a regular > basis helps our ph become more alkaline. I was reading today alot of stuff > about the formula of baking soda and maple syrup to do the same thing on a > higher stronger level---they are also using this for cancer. > And one little nugget re this is: Be careful not to use the Arm and > Hammer kind of baking soda because it contains aluminum. They said to buy the > > Bob's Red Mill aluminum free kind found at most health food stores and > probably Trader Joe's. M aybe you guys already know this but I didn't until > today. > Diane > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 No, Caroline. > > > > Except for apple cider vinegar with the mother. Taking this on a regular > > basis helps our ph become more alkaline. I was reading today alot of stuff > > about the formula of baking soda and maple syrup to do the same thing on a > > higher stronger level---they are also using this for cancer. > > And one little nugget re this is: Be careful not to use the Arm and > > Hammer kind of baking soda because it contains aluminum. They said to buy the > > > > Bob's Red Mill aluminum free kind found at most health food stores and > > probably Trader Joe's. M aybe you guys already know this but I didn't until > > today. > > Diane > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 so, what is the ideal saliva/urine ph? mine is 5.5 for both and i think that's too low...i was thinking of taking a supplement or baking soda to increase it...but that would make the candida worse? im confused... In a message dated 8/10/2010 6:38:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, carolynmil@... writes: Copied from Dr. McComb's website: _http://drmccombs.wordpress.com/_ (http://drmccombs.wordpress.com/) Myth #5 †" Pathogenic Candida requires an acid pH environment to grow This is another common myth put out by people who think everything is supposed to be alkaline in the body. The digestive tract is supposed to be acid and doesn’t even approach alkalinity until the rectum. The vaginal tissue is also supposed to be acidic. The lactic acid bacteria produce lactic acid to help maintain an acid pH. The stomach is very acidic, and the acidity of juices leaving the stomach helps to stimulate pancreatic function, as well as maintain the proper acid pH of the intestinal tract. Bile acids also contribute to maintaining the acid pH. In an acid environment, candida exists in its yeast form, but once that starts to shift to a more alakline environment, the alkaline pH stimulates the conversion to the pathogenic, fungal form. The same is true for E. Coli. In an acid environment, it plays a role in the production of vitamin K for the body. In an alkaline environment it becomes the pathogenic form that causes so many problems for people. Fungal Candida does extremely well in an akaline environment such as the blood stream. > > > > Except for apple cider vinegar with the mother. Taking this on a regular > > basis helps our ph become more alkaline. I was reading today alot of stuff > > about the formula of baking soda and maple syrup to do the same thing on a > > higher stronger level---they are also using this for cancer. > > And one little nugget re this is: Be careful not to use the Arm and > > Hammer kind of baking soda because it contains aluminum. They said to buy the > > > > Bob's Red Mill aluminum free kind found at most health food stores and > > probably Trader Joe's. M aybe you guys already know this but I didn't until > > today. > > Diane > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 Copied from Dr. McComb's website: http://drmccombs.wordpress.com/ Myth #5 †" Pathogenic Candida requires an acid pH environment to grow This is another common myth put out by people who think everything is supposed to be alkaline in the body. The digestive tract is supposed to be acid and doesn’t even approach alkalinity until the rectum. The vaginal tissue is also supposed to be acidic. The lactic acid bacteria produce lactic acid to help maintain an acid pH. The stomach is very acidic, and the acidity of juices leaving the stomach helps to stimulate pancreatic function, as well as maintain the proper acid pH of the intestinal tract. Bile acids also contribute to maintaining the acid pH. In an acid environment, candida exists in its yeast form, but once that starts to shift to a more alakline environment, the alkaline pH stimulates the conversion to the pathogenic, fungal form. The same is true for E. Coli. In an acid environment, it plays a role in the production of vitamin K for the body. In an alkaline environment it becomes the pathogenic form that causes so many problems for people. Fungal Candida does extremely well in an akaline environment such as the blood stream. > > > > Except for apple cider vinegar with the mother. Taking this on a regular > > basis helps our ph become more alkaline. I was reading today alot of stuff > > about the formula of baking soda and maple syrup to do the same thing on a > > higher stronger level---they are also using this for cancer. > > And one little nugget re this is: Be careful not to use the Arm and > > Hammer kind of baking soda because it contains aluminum. They said to buy the > > > > Bob's Red Mill aluminum free kind found at most health food stores and > > probably Trader Joe's. M aybe you guys already know this but I didn't until > > today. > > Diane > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 Thanks for the tip. I don't remember, are you taking the b.s./m.s pills? ________________________________ From: " elwynevenstar@... " <elwynevenstar@...> candidiasis Sent: Mon, August 9, 2010 4:41:04 PM Subject: Re: Wil-question about Candidas  Except for apple cider vinegar with the mother. Taking this on a regular basis helps our ph become more alkaline. I was reading today alot of stuff about the formula of baking soda and maple syrup to do the same thing on a higher stronger level---they are also using this for cancer. And one little nugget re this is: Be careful not to use the Arm and Hammer kind of baking soda because it contains aluminum. They said to buy the Bob's Red Mill aluminum free kind found at most health food stores and probably Trader Joe's. M aybe you guys already know this but I didn't until today. Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 I'm feeling stupid at the moment. Doctors have told me that yes, the stomach needs to be acidic but the rest of the body should be alkaline. That's why HCL is effective, because it keeps the stomach acidic, but only the stomach. Is this guy saying that the whole body should be acidic? Or just the stomach and vagina? If he's saying it's the whole body, that would be quite different from what most people say! ________________________________ From: Carolyn <carolynmil@...> candidiasis Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 4:36:44 PM Subject: Re: Wil-question about Candidas  Copied from Dr. McComb's website: http://drmccombs.wordpress.com/ Myth #5 †" Pathogenic Candida requires an acid pH environment to grow This is another common myth put out by people who think everything is supposed to be alkaline in the body. The digestive tract is supposed to be acid and doesn’t even approach alkalinity until the rectum. The vaginal tissue is also supposed to be acidic. The lactic acid bacteria produce lactic acid to help maintain an acid pH. The stomach is very acidic, and the acidity of juices leaving the stomach helps to stimulate pancreatic function, as well as maintain the proper acid pH of the intestinal tract. Bile acids also contribute to maintaining the acid pH. In an acid environment, candida exists in its yeast form, but once that starts to shift to a more alakline environment, the alkaline pH stimulates the conversion to the pathogenic, fungal form. The same is true for E. Coli. In an acid environment, it plays a role in the production of vitamin K for the body. In an alkaline environment it becomes the pathogenic form that causes so many problems for people. Fungal Candida does extremely well in an akaline environment such as the blood stream. > > > > Except for apple cider vinegar with the mother. Taking this on a regular > > basis helps our ph become more alkaline. I was reading today alot of stuff > > about the formula of baking soda and maple syrup to do the same thing on a > > higher stronger level---they are also using this for cancer. > > And one little nugget re this is: Be careful not to use the Arm and > > Hammer kind of baking soda because it contains aluminum. They said to buy the > > > > > Bob's Red Mill aluminum free kind found at most health food stores and > > probably Trader Joe's. M aybe you guys already know this but I didn't until > > today. > > Diane > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 Having an ideal/normal urine ph reading is a fallacy. Your ph levels are in constant flux. It is healthy to have an alkaline saliva and a slightly acidic urine ph reading. To make your GI tract acidic which is healthy and your body alkaline is the key to Vibrant Health. There are many ways to do this. I have a bit different way to accomplishment this. I use foods and a few supplements to help the body with in its own natural rhythms. Just eating things, like baking soda, to cause alkalinity is very short term thinking, as this will cause digestion issues in the long term. You can not safely alkalize the body by alkalizing the GI tract, it just does not work that way for long term health. As how to accomplish this on a personal level is not just as easy as it sounds, as most people are at different stages of ill health. There are some basic understandings, but to get a direct answer for your question I would need to talk to you, daisytiff228. Just for example, my saliva ph is usually between 7.5 and 8.2, when I am rested in the morning. Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: " daisytiff228@... " <daisytiff228@...> candidiasis Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 8:13:53 PM Subject: Re: Re: Wil-question about Candidas so, what is the ideal saliva/urine ph? mine is 5.5 for both and i think that's too low...i was thinking of taking a supplement or baking soda to increase it...but that would make the candida worse? im confused... In a message dated 8/10/2010 6:38:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, carolynmil@... writes: Copied from Dr. McComb's website: _http://drmccombs.wordpress.com/_ (http://drmccombs.wordpress.com/) Myth #5 †" Pathogenic Candida requires an acid pH environment to grow This is another common myth put out by people who think everything is supposed to be alkaline in the body. The digestive tract is supposed to be acid and doesn’t even approach alkalinity until the rectum. The vaginal tissue is also supposed to be acidic. The lactic acid bacteria produce lactic acid to help maintain an acid pH. The stomach is very acidic, and the acidity of juices leaving the stomach helps to stimulate pancreatic function, as well as maintain the proper acid pH of the intestinal tract. Bile acids also contribute to maintaining the acid pH. In an acid environment, candida exists in its yeast form, but once that starts to shift to a more alakline environment, the alkaline pH stimulates the conversion to the pathogenic, fungal form. The same is true for E. Coli. In an acid environment, it plays a role in the production of vitamin K for the body. In an alkaline environment it becomes the pathogenic form that causes so many problems for people. Fungal Candida does extremely well in an akaline environment such as the blood stream. > > > > Except for apple cider vinegar with the mother. Taking this on a regular > > basis helps our ph become more alkaline. I was reading today alot of stuff > > about the formula of baking soda and maple syrup to do the same thing on a > > higher stronger level---they are also using this for cancer. > > And one little nugget re this is: Be careful not to use the Arm and > > Hammer kind of baking soda because it contains aluminum. They said to buy the > > > > Bob's Red Mill aluminum free kind found at most health food stores and > > probably Trader Joe's. M aybe you guys already know this but I didn't until > > today. > > Diane > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 Here is some standard information that will cause your body to become acidic; *Eating anything that will spike your glucose levels like sugars and starches and grains, nuts, seeds and tubers *Improper digestion/fermentation of food in the stomach *Improper food combining, which leads to improper fermentation *Consuming a strict vegan diet *Consuming caffeine *Consuming soya products like tofu, soya milk or for that matter any nut milk *Lack of enzyme production *Lack of microorganism strains *Lack of rest *High stress load *Low vibrational emotional states of fear, anger, frustration, worry and doubt Hope this helps, Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: Wil Spencer <wilspencer@...> candidiasis Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 10:28:39 PM Subject: Re: Re: Wil-question about Candidas Having an ideal/normal urine ph reading is a fallacy. Your ph levels are in constant flux. It is healthy to have an alkaline saliva and a slightly acidic urine ph reading. To make your GI tract acidic which is healthy and your body alkaline is the key to Vibrant Health. There are many ways to do this. I have a bit different way to accomplishment this. I use foods and a few supplements to help the body with in its own natural rhythms. Just eating things, like baking soda, to cause alkalinity is very short term thinking, as this will cause digestion issues in the long term. You can not safely alkalize the body by alkalizing the GI tract, it just does not work that way for long term health. As how to accomplish this on a personal level is not just as easy as it sounds, as most people are at different stages of ill health. There are some basic understandings, but to get a direct answer for your question I would need to talk to you, daisytiff228. Just for example, my saliva ph is usually between 7.5 and 8.2, when I am rested in the morning. Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: " daisytiff228@... " <daisytiff228@...> candidiasis Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 8:13:53 PM Subject: Re: Re: Wil-question about Candidas so, what is the ideal saliva/urine ph? mine is 5.5 for both and i think that's too low...i was thinking of taking a supplement or baking soda to increase it...but that would make the candida worse? im confused... In a message dated 8/10/2010 6:38:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, carolynmil@... writes: Copied from Dr. McComb's website: _http://drmccombs.wordpress.com/_ (http://drmccombs.wordpress.com/) Myth #5 †" Pathogenic Candida requires an acid pH environment to grow This is another common myth put out by people who think everything is supposed to be alkaline in the body. The digestive tract is supposed to be acid and doesn’t even approach alkalinity until the rectum. The vaginal tissue is also supposed to be acidic. The lactic acid bacteria produce lactic acid to help maintain an acid pH. The stomach is very acidic, and the acidity of juices leaving the stomach helps to stimulate pancreatic function, as well as maintain the proper acid pH of the intestinal tract. Bile acids also contribute to maintaining the acid pH. In an acid environment, candida exists in its yeast form, but once that starts to shift to a more alakline environment, the alkaline pH stimulates the conversion to the pathogenic, fungal form. The same is true for E. Coli. In an acid environment, it plays a role in the production of vitamin K for the body. In an alkaline environment it becomes the pathogenic form that causes so many problems for people. Fungal Candida does extremely well in an akaline environment such as the blood stream. > > > > Except for apple cider vinegar with the mother. Taking this on a regular > > basis helps our ph become more alkaline. I was reading today alot of stuff > > about the formula of baking soda and maple syrup to do the same thing on a > > higher stronger level---they are also using this for cancer. > > And one little nugget re this is: Be careful not to use the Arm and > > Hammer kind of baking soda because it contains aluminum. They said to buy the > > > > Bob's Red Mill aluminum free kind found at most health food stores and > > probably Trader Joe's. M aybe you guys already know this but I didn't until > > today. > > Diane > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 Thanks, Carolyn. I hope your post helps Caroline. > > > > > > Except for apple cider vinegar with the mother. Taking this on a regular > > > basis helps our ph become more alkaline. I was reading today alot of stuff > > > about the formula of baking soda and maple syrup to do the same thing on a > > > higher stronger level---they are also using this for cancer. > > > And one little nugget re this is: Be careful not to use the Arm and > > > Hammer kind of baking soda because it contains aluminum. They said to buy the > > > > > > Bob's Red Mill aluminum free kind found at most health food stores and > > > probably Trader Joe's. M aybe you guys already know this but I didn't until > > > today. > > > Diane > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Thanks Wil for all the info. The main reason I use the baking soda is because I have interstitial cystitis, which is a very painful bladder condition. NOTHING the doctors have tried has worked. The baking soda is the only thing that SLIGHTLY even helps with the burning pain all day long. > > > > > > > > Except for apple cider vinegar with the mother. Taking this on a regular > > > > basis helps our ph become more alkaline. I was reading today alot of stuff > > > > about the formula of baking soda and maple syrup to do the same thing on a > > > > higher stronger level---they are also using this for cancer. > > > > And one little nugget re this is: Be careful not to use the Arm and > > > > Hammer kind of baking soda because it contains aluminum. They said to buy the > > > > > > > > Bob's Red Mill aluminum free kind found at most health food stores and > > > > probably Trader Joe's. M aybe you guys already know this but I didn't until > > > > today. > > > > Diane > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 You are welcome . To address your issue on the forum is a bit touchy for privacy reasons. I would be glad to talk off forum if you want. Just let me know. Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: <daisytiff228@...> candidiasis Sent: Wed, August 11, 2010 10:08:16 AM Subject: Re: Wil-question about Candidas Thanks Wil for all the info. The main reason I use the baking soda is because I have interstitial cystitis, which is a very painful bladder condition. NOTHING the doctors have tried has worked. The baking soda is the only thing that SLIGHTLY even helps with the burning pain all day long. > > > > > > > > Except for apple cider vinegar with the mother. Taking this on a >regular > > > > > basis helps our ph become more alkaline. I was reading today alot of >stuff > > > > > about the formula of baking soda and maple syrup to do the same thing on >a > > > > > higher stronger level---they are also using this for cancer. > > > > And one little nugget re this is: Be careful not to use the Arm and > > > > Hammer kind of baking soda because it contains aluminum. They said to >buy the > > > > > > > > > Bob's Red Mill aluminum free kind found at most health food stores and > > > > probably Trader Joe's. M aybe you guys already know this but I didn't >until > > > > > today. > > > > Diane > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 Diane, all you have to say in a restaurant is the simple little words " no potatoes please " I usually say just throw an extra egg into the mix instead. That is not hard at all. Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: " elwynevenstar@... " <elwynevenstar@...> candidiasis Sent: Mon, August 9, 2010 7:05:38 PM Subject: Re: Wil-question about Candidas In response to " potatoes are ok " ? I've read that the small red potatoes are safest--in moderation only--- but you will get a variety of opinions on this one. I try to have those once in a while but it is hard to stay away completely from the brown ones especially if you are eating breakfast in a restaurant! Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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