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, how about fruits? Also, I usually use unsweetened soy milk in my coffee.

Would there be something better? Thanks and I am going to look into that book.

Doug

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Subject: Re: Wil-question about Candidas

candidiasis

Date: Saturday, August 7, 2010, 11:09 AM

 

You don't need to exclude grains from your diet. Beans, brown rice, yams,

sweet potatoes, potatoes, yucca, malanga root, quinoa, millet, buckwheat can be

eaten. Eliminate refined carbos, corn, soy, vinegar, vanilla, gluten and casein

if you react to them. Malt and Sugar are the worst offender.

> >

> > You know I keep reading over & over on here that eating " grains " as it

> > is always phrased is not ok---however on just about every candida website

> > and every book on it I've ever read (and that's quite a few btw), says

> > certain grains are fine. I realize it's individual but a newbie reading

these

> >

> >

> > pages for the first time might think it's across the board--that eating

> > grains is absotutely forbidden. Brown rice has always worked out for me

and

> > there are several others that all the literature says is USUALLY alright.

> > Just saying it's confusing and for vegetarians it's almost impossible not

to

> > have certain ones. If you react to one then you cut it out of course.

> > Diane

> >

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Wil, I believe this really but my point is this:

do we have enough years of study for a high fat and protein diet? how do we know

eating excessive fat and proteins is not bad? cos ok grains are not good but in

x years time we'll say the same about other food items, you know it's never

ending and then sudies will show that this wasnt bad in the end that we got it

wrong.. I guess we have to eat a bit of everything as long as it is in its

nature form. I still eat spelt now and then like today I had a bit too much of

spelt bread, I can feel it's not doing me any favour but I so craved it! well

now I wont it spelt for weeks so it's fine.we also have to live you know, food

is so important to me right now that i'd suffer more from being deprived than

from actually eating it.

carox

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From: Wil Spencer <wilspencer@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Sat, August 7, 2010 5:48:24 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Wil-question about Candidas

Here is a partial list of grain, nuts, seeds and tuber associated health

problems;

Acne

Allergies

Asthma

Adrenal/Thyroid Exhaustion

Bone loss/Osteo diseases

Colitis

Constipation

Depression/Anxiety

Diarrhea

Dry skin and itchiness

Extreme mineral deficiency

Chronic Fatigue

Hand and foot fungus

Carbohydrate cravings

Gas/Bloating

Heart burn

Hemorrhoids

High/Low blood sugar

Hormonal imbalances

ADD/ADHD

Indigestion

Insomnia

IBS

Iron Deficiency

Malabsorption

Lupus

Fibromyalcia

Infertility

Menstrual problems

Lack of libido

Prostate problems

Obesity

Teeth cavities

PMS

Premature aging

Joint pain

Lethargic

Puffy eyes/ sunken eyes

Respiratory problems

Skin rashes/Hives

Ulcers

Candida overgrowth

Crohn's disease

Colon cancer

Ulcerative colitis

Gluten intolerance

Lactose intolerance

Diabetes

Hopefully you get the idea of the negative impact on the human body.

Usually the case is the diet first, leading to the hormonal imbalance, leading

to the fight or flight mode.

We are mind/body. One effects the other. You can not successfully heal the body

without healing the mind or vice/verse.

Food for the body is a paramount item to be concerned with as well as food for

the mind.

In order for the mind to work correctly it has requirements from the body; rest,

no stress, amino acids, oxygen, minerals to name the main items.

Grains, nuts, seeds and tubers cause great stress in the body so you are not

able to rest well, shuts off your enzyme production so you are not able to

assimilate amino acids or mineral, kills off most of the probiotics in our GI

tract which is our immunity, vitamin creators, shuts off the natural chelation

ability, disrupts our hormone balance, shall I go on?

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

________________________________

From: Caroline Croon <carolinecroon@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Sat, August 7, 2010 3:28:14 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Wil-question about Candidas

Wil,

I can understand this but you know so many people on carbs are very healthy or

have been very healthy all their lives so I'm pretty sure food is not THE thing

we have to be careful about. Like you said the fight and flight response and

stress are really important to keep at bay, even more than food I think.

Thank you for the explanations, I agree to some extent but like I said I'm not

ready to exclude grains of my diet.

________________________________

From: Wil Spencer <wilspencer@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Fri, August 6, 2010 11:27:41 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Wil-question about Candidas

, you are a funny person. My clinical observation and research data is not

speculation.

Your research is quite limited. It may help you to get a bigger picture of the

carbohydrate addiction and candida epidemic if you look in bigger arenas for

information, than just relying on allopathic medical research as the allopathic

world is producing research studies to justify the use of more synthetic

pharmaceutical drugs, selling you more testing and procedures to profit from.

You should try reading the book " Protein Power " by a Medical Doctor,

Eades, MD. He has some fabulous insight to dispute your science claims, .

My favorite bit of information is his quote " The amount of carbohydrates a human

needs for optimal health is zero " the healthy body creates its energy from amino

acids and minerals not carbohydrates.

A diet with carbohydrates, meaning grain, nuts, seeds and tubers for the most

part, cause a host of ailments like diabetes, allergies, candidiasis, thyroid

issues, digestive issues like constipation, hemorrhoids, IBS, ulceritive

colitis, crohn's disease, colon cancer, just to name a few, are very evil for

the human body to consume, in my opinion.

One of the biggest issues I see is the emotional instability in people. As your

system degenerates and spirals down hill the hormones that regulate balance and

health are diminished as the fungus gains a stronger hold and you become

confused easier, upset and frustrated easier, your have less patience for

ignorance, and your fight and flight nature becomes the dominant factor for

survival.

I do agree with you, , there is not concrete anti-candida diet. The truth

of the matter is the fungal/candida over growth is a result of several factors

and the diet is one of them. Some of the others are; in nature fungus/candida

over growths are just a result of severely degenerated organism and nature is in

the process of recycling that sick and dying organism back into nature for food

for another organism, another reason for the over growth is the human is eating

what is feeding the fungus/candida is high amounts and it is a fact that

fungus/candida proliferate best on carbohydrates, a very important fact is

fungus/candida proliferate very well in a body that is emotionally upset, in the

fight or flight mode, a body that is fearful, anxious, quilt laden or sad and

feeling alone.

These are not speculations that I have mentions, this is clinical research data

from my personal experience.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

________________________________

From: <dieguez.jorge@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 10:44:30 PM

Subject: Re: Wil-question about Candidas

Diane,

The low carbohydrate diet to eradicate candida isn't proved by science. In fact,

a very restrictive diet will weak you more and isn't benefical. It has been

clear since Dr. Trowbridge wrote his book during the 80s. One of the best

anticandida diet I am aware of was developed by Dr. Bruce Semon, a MD who also

hold a PhD in nutrition. His son got sick with a problem linked to candida and

Dr. Semon did every possible effort to researchs and develops an effective

anticandida diet to treat his own son. After that, a book was written which

explains this diet. " Feast without Yeast " This diet allows some grains,

starch, and other food that you normally are told don't eat. There isn't an

standart anticandida diet totally proved. The rest you hear around is just

speculation.

.

>

> You know I keep reading over & over on here that eating " grains " as it

> is always phrased is not ok---however on just about every candida website

> and every book on it I've ever read (and that's quite a few btw), says

> certain grains are fine. I realize it's individual but a newbie reading

these

>

>

>

>

> pages for the first time might think it's across the board--that eating

> grains is absotutely forbidden. Brown rice has always worked out for me and

> there are several others that all the literature says is USUALLY alright.

> Just saying it's confusing and for vegetarians it's almost impossible not to

> have certain ones. If you react to one then you cut it out of course.

> Diane

>

>

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Well, lets look at history for an example. Man has been on the planet for

1,000's of years if not millions. According to my Anthropological study man has

been eating a diet of more animal products and wild fruits and vegetation longer

than agriculture has been around, which is a mere few hundred years.

Even 3,000 years ago from Egyptian history, their food production was not as

harmful as we have today, and they were very careful to process their grains for

about 14 days to protect them from the harmful ability of the grains.

Your cravings are a by-product of being out of balance and malnourished. It is

not a mystery.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

________________________________

From: Caroline Croon <carolinecroon@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Sat, August 7, 2010 3:25:51 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Wil-question about Candidas

Wil, I believe this really but my point is this:

do we have enough years of study for a high fat and protein diet? how do we know

eating excessive fat and proteins is not bad? cos ok grains are not good but in

x years time we'll say the same about other food items, you know it's never

ending and then sudies will show that this wasnt bad in the end that we got it

wrong.. I guess we have to eat a bit of everything as long as it is in its

nature form. I still eat spelt now and then like today I had a bit too much of

spelt bread, I can feel it's not doing me any favour but I so craved it! well

now I wont it spelt for weeks so it's fine.we also have to live you know, food

is so important to me right now that i'd suffer more from being deprived than

from actually eating it.

carox

________________________________

From: Wil Spencer <wilspencer@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Sat, August 7, 2010 5:48:24 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Wil-question about Candidas

Here is a partial list of grain, nuts, seeds and tuber associated health

problems;

Acne

Allergies

Asthma

Adrenal/Thyroid Exhaustion

Bone loss/Osteo diseases

Colitis

Constipation

Depression/Anxiety

Diarrhea

Dry skin and itchiness

Extreme mineral deficiency

Chronic Fatigue

Hand and foot fungus

Carbohydrate cravings

Gas/Bloating

Heart burn

Hemorrhoids

High/Low blood sugar

Hormonal imbalances

ADD/ADHD

Indigestion

Insomnia

IBS

Iron Deficiency

Malabsorption

Lupus

Fibromyalcia

Infertility

Menstrual problems

Lack of libido

Prostate problems

Obesity

Teeth cavities

PMS

Premature aging

Joint pain

Lethargic

Puffy eyes/ sunken eyes

Respiratory problems

Skin rashes/Hives

Ulcers

Candida overgrowth

Crohn's disease

Colon cancer

Ulcerative colitis

Gluten intolerance

Lactose intolerance

Diabetes

Hopefully you get the idea of the negative impact on the human body.

Usually the case is the diet first, leading to the hormonal imbalance, leading

to the fight or flight mode.

We are mind/body. One effects the other. You can not successfully heal the body

without healing the mind or vice/verse.

Food for the body is a paramount item to be concerned with as well as food for

the mind.

In order for the mind to work correctly it has requirements from the body; rest,

no stress, amino acids, oxygen, minerals to name the main items.

Grains, nuts, seeds and tubers cause great stress in the body so you are not

able to rest well, shuts off your enzyme production so you are not able to

assimilate amino acids or mineral, kills off most of the probiotics in our GI

tract which is our immunity, vitamin creators, shuts off the natural chelation

ability, disrupts our hormone balance, shall I go on?

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

________________________________

From: Caroline Croon <carolinecroon@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Sat, August 7, 2010 3:28:14 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Wil-question about Candidas

Wil,

I can understand this but you know so many people on carbs are very healthy or

have been very healthy all their lives so I'm pretty sure food is not THE thing

we have to be careful about. Like you said the fight and flight response and

stress are really important to keep at bay, even more than food I think.

Thank you for the explanations, I agree to some extent but like I said I'm not

ready to exclude grains of my diet.

________________________________

From: Wil Spencer <wilspencer@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Fri, August 6, 2010 11:27:41 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Wil-question about Candidas

, you are a funny person. My clinical observation and research data is not

speculation.

Your research is quite limited. It may help you to get a bigger picture of the

carbohydrate addiction and candida epidemic if you look in bigger arenas for

information, than just relying on allopathic medical research as the allopathic

world is producing research studies to justify the use of more synthetic

pharmaceutical drugs, selling you more testing and procedures to profit from.

You should try reading the book " Protein Power " by a Medical Doctor,

Eades, MD. He has some fabulous insight to dispute your science claims, .

My favorite bit of information is his quote " The amount of carbohydrates a human

needs for optimal health is zero " the healthy body creates its energy from amino

acids and minerals not carbohydrates.

A diet with carbohydrates, meaning grain, nuts, seeds and tubers for the most

part, cause a host of ailments like diabetes, allergies, candidiasis, thyroid

issues, digestive issues like constipation, hemorrhoids, IBS, ulceritive

colitis, crohn's disease, colon cancer, just to name a few, are very evil for

the human body to consume, in my opinion.

One of the biggest issues I see is the emotional instability in people. As your

system degenerates and spirals down hill the hormones that regulate balance and

health are diminished as the fungus gains a stronger hold and you become

confused easier, upset and frustrated easier, your have less patience for

ignorance, and your fight and flight nature becomes the dominant factor for

survival.

I do agree with you, , there is not concrete anti-candida diet. The truth

of the matter is the fungal/candida over growth is a result of several factors

and the diet is one of them. Some of the others are; in nature fungus/candida

over growths are just a result of severely degenerated organism and nature is in

the process of recycling that sick and dying organism back into nature for food

for another organism, another reason for the over growth is the human is eating

what is feeding the fungus/candida is high amounts and it is a fact that

fungus/candida proliferate best on carbohydrates, a very important fact is

fungus/candida proliferate very well in a body that is emotionally upset, in the

fight or flight mode, a body that is fearful, anxious, quilt laden or sad and

feeling alone.

These are not speculations that I have mentions, this is clinical research data

from my personal experience.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

________________________________

From: <dieguez.jorge@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 10:44:30 PM

Subject: Re: Wil-question about Candidas

Diane,

The low carbohydrate diet to eradicate candida isn't proved by science. In fact,

a very restrictive diet will weak you more and isn't benefical. It has been

clear since Dr. Trowbridge wrote his book during the 80s. One of the best

anticandida diet I am aware of was developed by Dr. Bruce Semon, a MD who also

hold a PhD in nutrition. His son got sick with a problem linked to candida and

Dr. Semon did every possible effort to researchs and develops an effective

anticandida diet to treat his own son. After that, a book was written which

explains this diet. " Feast without Yeast " This diet allows some grains,

starch, and other food that you normally are told don't eat. There isn't an

standart anticandida diet totally proved. The rest you hear around is just

speculation.

.

>

> You know I keep reading over & over on here that eating " grains " as it

> is always phrased is not ok---however on just about every candida website

> and every book on it I've ever read (and that's quite a few btw), says

> certain grains are fine. I realize it's individual but a newbie reading

these

>

>

>

>

>

> pages for the first time might think it's across the board--that eating

> grains is absotutely forbidden. Brown rice has always worked out for me and

> there are several others that all the literature says is USUALLY alright.

> Just saying it's confusing and for vegetarians it's almost impossible not to

> have certain ones. If you react to one then you cut it out of course.

> Diane

>

>

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If you are not vibrantly healthy, I would say no to the potatoes. If you can not

say no to them then make sure you do not mix them with fruit or proteins.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

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From: " daisytiff228@... " <daisytiff228@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Sat, August 7, 2010 12:15:31 PM

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Potatoes are ok?

In a message dated 8/7/2010 11:10:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

dieguez.jorge@... writes:

You don't need to exclude grains from your diet. Beans, brown rice, yams,

sweet potatoes, potatoes, yucca, malanga root, quinoa, millet, buckwheat can

be eaten. Eliminate refined carbos, corn, soy, vinegar, vanilla, gluten

and casein if you react to them. Malt and Sugar are the worst offender.

> >

> > You know I keep reading over & over on here that eating " grains " as it

> > is always phrased is not ok---however on just about every candida

website

> > and every book on it I've ever read (and that's quite a few btw), says

> > certain grains are fine. I realize it's individual but a newbie

reading these

> >

> >

> > pages for the first time might think it's across the board--that

eating

> > grains is absotutely forbidden. Brown rice has always worked out for

me and

> > there are several others that all the literature says is USUALLY

alright.

> > Just saying it's confusing and for vegetarians it's almost impossible

not to

> > have certain ones. If you react to one then you cut it out of course.

> > Diane

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>

>

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Hi everyone,

First of all, I don't know how to trim a post.  Sorry.  I thought I did, but I

don't.

As for grains and carbs in general....I feel compelled to chime in because I

honestly believe that for some people, anyway, carbs are detrimental to their

health.  I do believe that the cravings people experience are generally caused

by candida dying.  I can only speak from my own experience.  I finally learned

to ask myself,   " what is this craving I have?  I feel like I must have

(insert

whatever....rice cakes, buckwheat pancakes, cashews, sweet potatoes)...I feel

like I can never be satisfied unless I eat these things....but am I hungry?  Am

I truly hungry?  What is this discomfort I feel? "   And the thing is I am never

actually hungry at these times.  I feel a discomfort, but after thinking about

it for awhile or asking myself if I can live with it, I realize that I can, and

then after a few minutes it goes away.  We have all been trained to eat grains

and carbs, and everyone around us eats them...so we think it's just the normal

thing to do....

I really believe that what people feel when they say they cannot give up the

foods they love is that these foods give them a certain feeling, which they are

so used to that to suddenly not feel it feels unknown and intolerable.  I mean

an emotional feeling.  I don't think it's a physiological need, other than to

feed the candida.  I know from experience how imperative this need feels. 

Everyone needs to find their own path and I'm sure each one here will find their

own way.  I simply feel that I should speak up and raise other questions about

the necessity of grains.

I'm at the library and I have to send this within two minutes so I will send it

although it is incomplete.  The question of whether grains and tubers are

required for health is important and I don't have a scientific answer for

that. 

A study was released by Temple University this month which followed people who

ate an Atkins-type diet for two years.  It found that people's HDL cholesterol

was reduced by 23%.  I am not mentioning this to prove that low-carb is good. 

I

just thought it was interesting.

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To eliminate candida you should stop coffee and soy. Anything fermented using

Yeast and Fungus will damage you. Any fungus make chemicals that kill bacterias,

so food elaborated with yeast fermentation will have chemicals that eliminate

your friendly bacterias. If you eat food containing chemicals that kill

bacterias, you will give the yeast more room to growth. Foods in the diet will

influence how the yeast and bacterias regrow after antibiotic intake. The key is

to leave the bacterias alone.

>

> > >

>

> > > You know I keep reading over & over on here that eating " grains " as it

>

> > > is always phrased is not ok---however on just about every candida website

>

> > > and every book on it I've ever read (and that's quite a few btw), says

>

> > > certain grains are fine. I realize it's individual but a newbie reading

these

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > pages for the first time might think it's across the board--that eating

>

> > > grains is absotutely forbidden. Brown rice has always worked out for me

and

>

> > > there are several others that all the literature says is USUALLY alright.

>

> > > Just saying it's confusing and for vegetarians it's almost impossible not

to

>

> > > have certain ones. If you react to one then you cut it out of course.

>

> > > Diane

>

> > >

>

> > >

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Chocolate and Vanilla are also made by yeast fermentation.

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > You know I keep reading over & over on here that eating " grains " as

it

> >

> > > > is always phrased is not ok---however on just about every candida

website

> >

> > > > and every book on it I've ever read (and that's quite a few btw), says

> >

> > > > certain grains are fine. I realize it's individual but a newbie

reading these

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > pages for the first time might think it's across the board--that eating

> >

> > > > grains is absotutely forbidden. Brown rice has always worked out for

me and

> >

> > > > there are several others that all the literature says is USUALLY

alright.

> >

> > > > Just saying it's confusing and for vegetarians it's almost impossible

not to

> >

> > > > have certain ones. If you react to one then you cut it out of course.

> >

> > > > Diane

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

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Except for apple cider vinegar with the mother. Taking this on a regular

basis helps our ph become more alkaline. I was reading today alot of stuff

about the formula of baking soda and maple syrup to do the same thing on a

higher stronger level---they are also using this for cancer.

And one little nugget re this is: Be careful not to use the Arm and

Hammer kind of baking soda because it contains aluminum. They said to buy the

Bob's Red Mill aluminum free kind found at most health food stores and

probably Trader Joe's. M aybe you guys already know this but I didn't until

today.

Diane

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Doug, how in the world did you get used to the soy milk in your coffee I

wonder? I tried this once and it was awful---in fact it didn't seem to

really affect the coffee at all the way regular cream does or even at all. I

am just having the worst time giving up coffee because the only way I can

drink it is with half & half or cream.

Diane

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In response to " potatoes are ok " ? I've read that the small red

potatoes are safest--in moderation only--- but you will get a variety of

opinions

on this one. I try to have those once in a while but it is hard to stay

away completely from the brown ones especially if you are eating breakfast in

a restaurant!

Diane

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Diane,

An elevated intestinal Ph favors candida mutation to mycelial. So, I don't see

any reason to try to rise your Ph. In fact, what promotes candida to mutate is

lack of Acetic Acid, Lactic Acid, Butyric Acid, etc.

>

> Except for apple cider vinegar with the mother. Taking this on a regular

> basis helps our ph become more alkaline. I was reading today alot of stuff

> about the formula of baking soda and maple syrup to do the same thing on a

> higher stronger level---they are also using this for cancer.

> And one little nugget re this is: Be careful not to use the Arm and

> Hammer kind of baking soda because it contains aluminum. They said to buy

the

> Bob's Red Mill aluminum free kind found at most health food stores and

> probably Trader Joe's. M aybe you guys already know this but I didn't until

> today.

> Diane

>

>

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i dont remember what we were talking about and to what your quetion is refering?

was it the igg test? then I dont know, I do it with my doc so I cant help you..

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Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 12:42:57 AM

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But where would I look for it Caroline? Online?

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, isnt it the other way round? isnt it the low ph that favours candida

overgrowth?

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Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 3:13:57 AM

Subject: Re: Wil-question about Candidas

Diane,

An elevated intestinal Ph favors candida mutation to mycelial. So, I don't see

any reason to try to rise your Ph. In fact, what promotes candida to mutate is

lack of Acetic Acid, Lactic Acid, Butyric Acid, etc.

>

> Except for apple cider vinegar with the mother. Taking this on a regular

> basis helps our ph become more alkaline. I was reading today alot of stuff

> about the formula of baking soda and maple syrup to do the same thing on a

> higher stronger level---they are also using this for cancer.

> And one little nugget re this is: Be careful not to use the Arm and

> Hammer kind of baking soda because it contains aluminum. They said to buy

the

>

> Bob's Red Mill aluminum free kind found at most health food stores and

> probably Trader Joe's. M aybe you guys already know this but I didn't until

> today.

> Diane

>

>

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No, Caroline.

> >

> > Except for apple cider vinegar with the mother. Taking this on a regular

> > basis helps our ph become more alkaline. I was reading today alot of stuff

> > about the formula of baking soda and maple syrup to do the same thing on a

> > higher stronger level---they are also using this for cancer.

> > And one little nugget re this is: Be careful not to use the Arm and

> > Hammer kind of baking soda because it contains aluminum. They said to buy

the

> >

> > Bob's Red Mill aluminum free kind found at most health food stores and

> > probably Trader Joe's. M aybe you guys already know this but I didn't

until

> > today.

> > Diane

> >

> >

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so, what is the ideal saliva/urine ph? mine is 5.5 for both and i think

that's too low...i was thinking of taking a supplement or baking soda to

increase it...but that would make the candida worse? im confused...

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Myth #5 †" Pathogenic Candida requires an acid pH environment to grow

This is another common myth put out by people who think everything is

supposed to be alkaline in the body. The digestive tract is supposed to be acid

and doesn’t even approach alkalinity until the rectum. The vaginal

tissue is also supposed to be acidic.

The lactic acid bacteria produce lactic acid to help maintain an acid pH.

The stomach is very acidic, and the acidity of juices leaving the stomach

helps to stimulate pancreatic function, as well as maintain the proper acid

pH of the intestinal tract. Bile acids also contribute to maintaining the

acid pH. In an acid environment, candida exists in its yeast form, but once

that starts to shift to a more alakline environment, the alkaline pH

stimulates the conversion to the pathogenic, fungal form. The same is true for

E.

Coli. In an acid environment, it plays a role in the production of vitamin

K for the body. In an alkaline environment it becomes the pathogenic form

that causes so many problems for people. Fungal Candida does extremely well

in an akaline environment such as the blood stream.

> >

> > Except for apple cider vinegar with the mother. Taking this on a

regular

> > basis helps our ph become more alkaline. I was reading today alot of

stuff

> > about the formula of baking soda and maple syrup to do the same thing

on a

> > higher stronger level---they are also using this for cancer.

> > And one little nugget re this is: Be careful not to use the Arm and

> > Hammer kind of baking soda because it contains aluminum. They said to

buy the

> >

> > Bob's Red Mill aluminum free kind found at most health food stores and

> > probably Trader Joe's. M aybe you guys already know this but I didn't

until

> > today.

> > Diane

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Copied from Dr. McComb's website: http://drmccombs.wordpress.com/

Myth #5 †" Pathogenic Candida requires an acid pH environment to grow

This is another common myth put out by people who think everything is supposed

to be alkaline in the body. The digestive tract is supposed to be acid and

doesn’t even approach alkalinity until the rectum. The vaginal tissue is also

supposed to be acidic.

The lactic acid bacteria produce lactic acid to help maintain an acid pH. The

stomach is very acidic, and the acidity of juices leaving the stomach helps to

stimulate pancreatic function, as well as maintain the proper acid pH of the

intestinal tract. Bile acids also contribute to maintaining the acid pH. In an

acid environment, candida exists in its yeast form, but once that starts to

shift to a more alakline environment, the alkaline pH stimulates the conversion

to the pathogenic, fungal form. The same is true for E. Coli. In an acid

environment, it plays a role in the production of vitamin K for the body. In an

alkaline environment it becomes the pathogenic form that causes so many problems

for people. Fungal Candida does extremely well in an akaline environment such as

the blood stream.

> >

> > Except for apple cider vinegar with the mother. Taking this on a regular

> > basis helps our ph become more alkaline. I was reading today alot of stuff

> > about the formula of baking soda and maple syrup to do the same thing on a

> > higher stronger level---they are also using this for cancer.

> > And one little nugget re this is: Be careful not to use the Arm and

> > Hammer kind of baking soda because it contains aluminum. They said to buy

the

> >

> > Bob's Red Mill aluminum free kind found at most health food stores and

> > probably Trader Joe's. M aybe you guys already know this but I didn't

until

> > today.

> > Diane

> >

> >

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Thanks for the tip.  I don't remember, are you taking the b.s./m.s pills?

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From: " elwynevenstar@... " <elwynevenstar@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Mon, August 9, 2010 4:41:04 PM

Subject: Re: Wil-question about Candidas

 

Except for apple cider vinegar with the mother. Taking this on a regular

basis helps our ph become more alkaline. I was reading today alot of stuff

about the formula of baking soda and maple syrup to do the same thing on a

higher stronger level---they are also using this for cancer.

And one little nugget re this is: Be careful not to use the Arm and

Hammer kind of baking soda because it contains aluminum. They said to buy the

Bob's Red Mill aluminum free kind found at most health food stores and

probably Trader Joe's. M aybe you guys already know this but I didn't until

today.

Diane

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I'm feeling stupid at the moment.  Doctors have told me that yes, the stomach

needs to be acidic but the rest of the body should be alkaline.  That's why HCL

is effective, because it keeps the stomach acidic, but only the stomach.  Is

this guy saying that the whole body should be acidic?  Or just the stomach and

vagina?  If he's saying it's the whole body, that would be quite different from

what most people say! 

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From: Carolyn <carolynmil@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 4:36:44 PM

Subject: Re: Wil-question about Candidas

 

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Myth #5 †" Pathogenic Candida requires an acid pH environment to grow

This is another common myth put out by people who think everything is supposed

to be alkaline in the body. The digestive tract is supposed to be acid and

doesn’t even approach alkalinity until the rectum. The vaginal tissue is

also

supposed to be acidic.

The lactic acid bacteria produce lactic acid to help maintain an acid pH. The

stomach is very acidic, and the acidity of juices leaving the stomach helps to

stimulate pancreatic function, as well as maintain the proper acid pH of the

intestinal tract. Bile acids also contribute to maintaining the acid pH. In an

acid environment, candida exists in its yeast form, but once that starts to

shift to a more alakline environment, the alkaline pH stimulates the conversion

to the pathogenic, fungal form. The same is true for E. Coli. In an acid

environment, it plays a role in the production of vitamin K for the body. In an

alkaline environment it becomes the pathogenic form that causes so many problems

for people. Fungal Candida does extremely well in an akaline environment such as

the blood stream.

> >

> > Except for apple cider vinegar with the mother. Taking this on a regular

> > basis helps our ph become more alkaline. I was reading today alot of stuff

> > about the formula of baking soda and maple syrup to do the same thing on a

> > higher stronger level---they are also using this for cancer.

> > And one little nugget re this is: Be careful not to use the Arm and

> > Hammer kind of baking soda because it contains aluminum. They said to buy

the

>

> >

> > Bob's Red Mill aluminum free kind found at most health food stores and

> > probably Trader Joe's. M aybe you guys already know this but I didn't until

> > today.

> > Diane

> >

> >

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Having an ideal/normal urine ph reading is a fallacy. Your ph levels are in

constant flux. It is healthy to have an alkaline saliva and a slightly acidic

urine ph reading.

To make your GI tract acidic which is healthy and your body alkaline is the key

to Vibrant Health. There are many ways to do this. I have a bit different way to

accomplishment this. I use foods and a few supplements to help the body with in

its own natural rhythms.

Just eating things, like baking soda, to cause alkalinity is very short term

thinking, as this will cause digestion issues in the long term. You can not

safely alkalize the body by alkalizing the GI tract, it just does not work that

way for long term health.

As how to accomplish this on a personal level is not just as easy as it sounds,

as most people are at different stages of ill health. There are some basic

understandings, but to get a direct answer for your question I would need to

talk to you, daisytiff228.

Just for example, my saliva ph is usually between 7.5 and 8.2, when I am rested

in the morning.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

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From: " daisytiff228@... " <daisytiff228@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 8:13:53 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Wil-question about Candidas

so, what is the ideal saliva/urine ph? mine is 5.5 for both and i think

that's too low...i was thinking of taking a supplement or baking soda to

increase it...but that would make the candida worse? im confused...

In a message dated 8/10/2010 6:38:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

carolynmil@... writes:

Copied from Dr. McComb's website: _http://drmccombs.wordpress.com/_

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Myth #5 †" Pathogenic Candida requires an acid pH environment to grow

This is another common myth put out by people who think everything is

supposed to be alkaline in the body. The digestive tract is supposed to be acid

and doesn’t even approach alkalinity until the rectum. The vaginal

tissue is also supposed to be acidic.

The lactic acid bacteria produce lactic acid to help maintain an acid pH.

The stomach is very acidic, and the acidity of juices leaving the stomach

helps to stimulate pancreatic function, as well as maintain the proper acid

pH of the intestinal tract. Bile acids also contribute to maintaining the

acid pH. In an acid environment, candida exists in its yeast form, but once

that starts to shift to a more alakline environment, the alkaline pH

stimulates the conversion to the pathogenic, fungal form. The same is true for

E.

Coli. In an acid environment, it plays a role in the production of vitamin

K for the body. In an alkaline environment it becomes the pathogenic form

that causes so many problems for people. Fungal Candida does extremely well

in an akaline environment such as the blood stream.

> >

> > Except for apple cider vinegar with the mother. Taking this on a

regular

> > basis helps our ph become more alkaline. I was reading today alot of

stuff

> > about the formula of baking soda and maple syrup to do the same thing

on a

> > higher stronger level---they are also using this for cancer.

> > And one little nugget re this is: Be careful not to use the Arm and

> > Hammer kind of baking soda because it contains aluminum. They said to

buy the

> >

> > Bob's Red Mill aluminum free kind found at most health food stores and

> > probably Trader Joe's. M aybe you guys already know this but I didn't

until

> > today.

> > Diane

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Here is some standard information that will cause your body to become acidic;

*Eating anything that will spike your glucose levels like sugars and starches

and grains, nuts, seeds and tubers

*Improper digestion/fermentation of food in the stomach

*Improper food combining, which leads to improper fermentation

*Consuming a strict vegan diet

*Consuming caffeine

*Consuming soya products like tofu, soya milk or for that matter any nut milk

*Lack of enzyme production

*Lack of microorganism strains

*Lack of rest

*High stress load

*Low vibrational emotional states of fear, anger, frustration, worry and doubt

Hope this helps,

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

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From: Wil Spencer <wilspencer@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 10:28:39 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Wil-question about Candidas

Having an ideal/normal urine ph reading is a fallacy. Your ph levels are in

constant flux. It is healthy to have an alkaline saliva and a slightly acidic

urine ph reading.

To make your GI tract acidic which is healthy and your body alkaline is the key

to Vibrant Health. There are many ways to do this. I have a bit different way to

accomplishment this. I use foods and a few supplements to help the body with in

its own natural rhythms.

Just eating things, like baking soda, to cause alkalinity is very short term

thinking, as this will cause digestion issues in the long term. You can not

safely alkalize the body by alkalizing the GI tract, it just does not work that

way for long term health.

As how to accomplish this on a personal level is not just as easy as it sounds,

as most people are at different stages of ill health. There are some basic

understandings, but to get a direct answer for your question I would need to

talk to you, daisytiff228.

Just for example, my saliva ph is usually between 7.5 and 8.2, when I am rested

in the morning.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

________________________________

From: " daisytiff228@... " <daisytiff228@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 8:13:53 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Wil-question about Candidas

so, what is the ideal saliva/urine ph? mine is 5.5 for both and i think

that's too low...i was thinking of taking a supplement or baking soda to

increase it...but that would make the candida worse? im confused...

In a message dated 8/10/2010 6:38:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

carolynmil@... writes:

Copied from Dr. McComb's website: _http://drmccombs.wordpress.com/_

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Myth #5 †" Pathogenic Candida requires an acid pH environment to grow

This is another common myth put out by people who think everything is

supposed to be alkaline in the body. The digestive tract is supposed to be acid

and doesn’t even approach alkalinity until the rectum. The vaginal

tissue is also supposed to be acidic.

The lactic acid bacteria produce lactic acid to help maintain an acid pH.

The stomach is very acidic, and the acidity of juices leaving the stomach

helps to stimulate pancreatic function, as well as maintain the proper acid

pH of the intestinal tract. Bile acids also contribute to maintaining the

acid pH. In an acid environment, candida exists in its yeast form, but once

that starts to shift to a more alakline environment, the alkaline pH

stimulates the conversion to the pathogenic, fungal form. The same is true for

E.

Coli. In an acid environment, it plays a role in the production of vitamin

K for the body. In an alkaline environment it becomes the pathogenic form

that causes so many problems for people. Fungal Candida does extremely well

in an akaline environment such as the blood stream.

> >

> > Except for apple cider vinegar with the mother. Taking this on a

regular

> > basis helps our ph become more alkaline. I was reading today alot of

stuff

> > about the formula of baking soda and maple syrup to do the same thing

on a

> > higher stronger level---they are also using this for cancer.

> > And one little nugget re this is: Be careful not to use the Arm and

> > Hammer kind of baking soda because it contains aluminum. They said to

buy the

> >

> > Bob's Red Mill aluminum free kind found at most health food stores and

> > probably Trader Joe's. M aybe you guys already know this but I didn't

until

> > today.

> > Diane

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Thanks, Carolyn.

I hope your post helps Caroline.

> > >

> > > Except for apple cider vinegar with the mother. Taking this on a regular

> > > basis helps our ph become more alkaline. I was reading today alot of

stuff

> > > about the formula of baking soda and maple syrup to do the same thing on

a

> > > higher stronger level---they are also using this for cancer.

> > > And one little nugget re this is: Be careful not to use the Arm and

> > > Hammer kind of baking soda because it contains aluminum. They said to

buy the

> > >

> > > Bob's Red Mill aluminum free kind found at most health food stores and

> > > probably Trader Joe's. M aybe you guys already know this but I didn't

until

> > > today.

> > > Diane

> > >

> > >

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Thanks Wil for all the info.

The main reason I use the baking soda is because I have interstitial cystitis,

which is a very painful bladder condition. NOTHING the doctors have tried has

worked. The baking soda is the only thing that SLIGHTLY even helps with the

burning pain all day long.

> > > >

> > > > Except for apple cider vinegar with the mother. Taking this on a

regular

> > > > basis helps our ph become more alkaline. I was reading today alot of

stuff

> > > > about the formula of baking soda and maple syrup to do the same thing

on a

> > > > higher stronger level---they are also using this for cancer.

> > > > And one little nugget re this is: Be careful not to use the Arm and

> > > > Hammer kind of baking soda because it contains aluminum. They said to

buy the

> > > >

> > > > Bob's Red Mill aluminum free kind found at most health food stores and

> > > > probably Trader Joe's. M aybe you guys already know this but I didn't

until

> > > > today.

> > > > Diane

> > > >

> > > >

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You are welcome .

To address your issue on the forum is a bit touchy for privacy reasons. I would

be glad to talk off forum if you want. Just let me know.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

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From: <daisytiff228@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Wed, August 11, 2010 10:08:16 AM

Subject: Re: Wil-question about Candidas

Thanks Wil for all the info.

The main reason I use the baking soda is because I have interstitial cystitis,

which is a very painful bladder condition. NOTHING the doctors have tried has

worked. The baking soda is the only thing that SLIGHTLY even helps with the

burning pain all day long.

> > > >

> > > > Except for apple cider vinegar with the mother. Taking this on a

>regular

>

> > > > basis helps our ph become more alkaline. I was reading today alot of

>stuff

>

> > > > about the formula of baking soda and maple syrup to do the same thing

on

>a

>

> > > > higher stronger level---they are also using this for cancer.

> > > > And one little nugget re this is: Be careful not to use the Arm and

> > > > Hammer kind of baking soda because it contains aluminum. They said to

>buy the

>

> > > >

> > > > Bob's Red Mill aluminum free kind found at most health food stores and

> > > > probably Trader Joe's. M aybe you guys already know this but I didn't

>until

>

> > > > today.

> > > > Diane

> > > >

> > > >

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Diane, all you have to say in a restaurant is the simple little words " no

potatoes please " I usually say just throw an extra egg into the mix instead.

That is not hard at all.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

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From: " elwynevenstar@... " <elwynevenstar@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Mon, August 9, 2010 7:05:38 PM

Subject: Re: Wil-question about Candidas

In response to " potatoes are ok " ? I've read that the small red

potatoes are safest--in moderation only--- but you will get a variety of

opinions

on this one. I try to have those once in a while but it is hard to stay

away completely from the brown ones especially if you are eating breakfast in

a restaurant!

Diane

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