Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Greg, I do not know that much about probiotics, is the contents of it similar to the Gr8-Dophilus? Doug From: dreaminginnoother <dreaminginnoother@...> Subject: Re: Gr8-dophilus candidiasis Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 2:43 PM Has anyone tried the NSI probiotic http://www.vitacost ..com/NSI- Probiotic- 15-35? It is high potency broad spectrum for a low price and I just wanted to know if it was any good. greg > > > > Is Gr8-dophilus heat sensitive? Does it need refrigeration? Thanks Doug > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 I too would like to know thoughts on this product. I was just looking at it myself on vitacoat. Thanks Jaye On Sep 27, 2009, at 2:43 PM, " dreaminginnoother " <dreaminginnoother@...> wrote: Has anyone tried the NSI probiotic http://www.vitacost.com/NSI-Probiotic-15-35? It is high potency broad spectrum for a low price and I just wanted to know if it was any good. greg > > > > Is Gr8-dophilus heat sensitive? Does it need refrigeration? Thanks Doug > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 YUP! Have had excellent rotten results of NOTHING better! Even taking inulin that is said on the Now bottle that is SUPPOSE to feed good bacteria??? Lyle From: dreaminginnoother <dreaminginnoother@...> Subject: Re: Gr8-dophilus candidiasis Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 1:43 PM Has anyone tried the NSI probiotic http://www.vitacost .com/NSI- Probiotic- 15-35? It is high potency broad spectrum for a low price and I just wanted to know if it was any good. greg > > > > Is Gr8-dophilus heat sensitive? Does it need refrigeration? Thanks Doug > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Well all I can tell ya is it has had NO EFFECT in helping build up MY " good bacteria " in MY intestines, to combat ALSO the Candida problem in the " fecal slurry " as some call it. Nor does the ULTIMATE trio of whey/selenium/inulin help or solve the initial underlining problem of candida overgrowth to begin with??? I have even tried and or went through two bottles (180 caps) of PB8 and no results from that product (That supposedly has 14 BILLION GOOD BACTERIA in it!!!???) either although I have always stored it in the refrigerator until using per capsule! So is this probiotic DEAD because it sit in varying shipped hot/warm warehouses until arriving at my house and finally put in my refrigerator??? Was and is that the reason the product of NSI probiotic that I'm still taking, does not work either? Lyle Has anyone tried the NSI probiotic http://www.vitacost .com/NSI- Probiotic- 15-35? It is high potency broad spectrum for a low price and I just wanted to know if it was any good. greg > > > > Is Gr8-dophilus heat sensitive? Does it need refrigeration? Thanks Doug > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 If no one has realized this yet this concept of promoting the very high CFU's is just marketing ploys. Another thing about this " Good bacteria vs. Bad bacteria " theory is also rooted in marketing. All you have to do is talk to any first year microbiology student and they will tell you there is only bacteria, " Good " means they are in balance and " Bad " or pathogenic is out of balance. We have over 700 different strains of bacterium, fungus and virus' living in and on us. And there is only one strain that is, in a healthy and balanced digestive tract, responsible to hold the Candida Albicans in there natural parameters in the small intestine. With out this one bacterium Candida Albicans are allowed to go systemic. Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath ________________________________ From: lyle shippy <muslcrs@...> candidiasis Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 11:02:08 AM Subject: Re: Re: Gr8-dophilus Well all I can tell ya is it has had NO EFFECT in helping build up MY " good bacteria " in MY intestines, to combat ALSO the Candida problem in the " fecal slurry " as some call it. Nor does the ULTIMATE trio of whey/selenium/ inulin help or solve the initial underlining problem of candida overgrowth to begin with??? I have even tried and or went through two bottles (180 caps) of PB8 and no results from that product (That supposedly has 14 BILLION GOOD BACTERIA in it!!!???) either although I have always stored it in the refrigerator until using per capsule! So is this probiotic DEAD because it sit in varying shipped hot/warm warehouses until arriving at my house and finally put in my refrigerator? ?? Was and is that the reason the product of NSI probiotic that I'm still taking, does not work either? Lyle Has anyone tried the NSI probiotic http://www.vitacost .com/NSI- Probiotic- 15-35? It is high potency broad spectrum for a low price and I just wanted to know if it was any good. greg > > > > Is Gr8-dophilus heat sensitive? Does it need refrigeration? Thanks Doug > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 What is that one strain? On 30-Sep-09, at 11:10 AM, Wil Spencer wrote: > If no one has realized this yet this concept of promoting the very > high CFU's is just marketing ploys. > > Another thing about this " Good bacteria vs. Bad bacteria " theory is > also rooted in marketing. All you have to do is talk to any first > year microbiology student and they will tell you there is only > bacteria, " Good " means they are in balance and " Bad " or pathogenic > is out of balance. > > We have over 700 different strains of bacterium, fungus and virus' > living in and on us. And there is only one strain that is, in a > healthy and balanced digestive tract, responsible to hold the > Candida Albicans in there natural parameters in the small intestine. > With out this one bacterium Candida Albicans are allowed to go > systemic. > > Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath > > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Baccillus Laterosporus Brevia BOD This is all explained in my book which you can view and download from www.mbsre-set.com. Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath ________________________________ From: " , " <kenstar@...> candidiasis Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 10:47:34 AM Subject: Re: Re: Gr8-dophilus What is that one strain? On 30-Sep-09, at 11:10 AM, Wil Spencer wrote: > If no one has realized this yet this concept of promoting the very > high CFU's is just marketing ploys. > > Another thing about this " Good bacteria vs. Bad bacteria " theory is > also rooted in marketing. All you have to do is talk to any first > year microbiology student and they will tell you there is only > bacteria, " Good " means they are in balance and " Bad " or pathogenic > is out of balance. > > We have over 700 different strains of bacterium, fungus and virus' > living in and on us. And there is only one strain that is, in a > healthy and balanced digestive tract, responsible to hold the > Candida Albicans in there natural parameters in the small intestine. > With out this one bacterium Candida Albicans are allowed to go > systemic. > > Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath > > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 I have to say Duncan, your mathematics and fecal slurry talk is neat. You have not taken into account from any emotional stress which can wipe out huge amounts of bacterium in a matter of minutes. Just having fear or worry is enough to send enough adrenaline into the gut to cause this kind of imbalance. This is why I have to look at health from a Wholistic view. This is what the new science is telling us, we are part of nature. Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath ________________________________ From: DuncanC <duncancrow@...> candidiasis Sent: Fri, October 30, 2009 11:12:41 AM Subject: Re: GR8-Dophilus , one capsule of probiotic is about the right amount of organisms to colonise about 2 CCs of fecal slurry if the ecology is about 50% out. They will still have to be fed in order to adhere to the gut lining and maintain the bowel population even though it's being evacuated. You can readily see why the dose-related effect runs you into dozens if not hundreds of caps or more than a pouch of VSL#3 per day. Using VSL#3 that as a guide, the 450 billion organisms in a single dose would be contained in about 100-150 capsules. So, a probiotic of 20 capsules per dose seems low-end even as a starter culture. By feeding the culture a few spoonfuls of prebiotic you can grow the balance of the organisms you need in a day. all good, Duncan > > Hi, I just bought my GR8-Dophilus. It says to take 1 with or before a meal. Also it says take 1-3 a day. With the Jarradophilus that I took before I always took 2 at a time 30 minutes before a meal and sometimes just the one time in the morning.Should I not take the GR8 30 minutes before a meal and by itself? Also would one in the morning before breakfast be enough? Thanks Doug > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Fear and adrenaline are sooo in large amounts in slaughtered meat that for years people advised people to raise and butcher their own beef to keep adrenaline out of the meat. Just being away from the smell of death made such a difference in the meat. I know this first hand from the meats I eat in the Nederlands. The proof of the difference in meat with adrenaline and meat without was so big...I told the whole group about it in 2003. It also had a profound effect on my bowls also. Stress produces the hormone cortisol right! Cortisol would be a perfect hormone to wipe out god things in the gut...cortisol has been know to do that. I think that is in the medical journals. From: DuncanC <duncancrow@...> Subject: Re: GR8-Dophilus candidiasis Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009, 6:03 PM Wil, I'm unaware of evidence that emotional stress wipes out huge amounts of bacteria and I would like the references. If it were true we could use strees as a cure! I'm also reluctant to accept that large amounts of adrenaline are released in the gut, at least in anywhere near the amounts that could change the contents of fecal slurry. Where did you get that tidbit? Couldn't find anything in peer-review there either. Duncan > > > > Hi, I just bought my GR8-Dophilus. It says to take 1 with or before a meal. Also it says take 1-3 a day. With the Jarradophilus that I took before I always took 2 at a time 30 minutes before a meal and sometimes just the one time in the morning.Should I not take the GR8 30 minutes before a meal and by itself? Also would one in the morning before breakfast be enough? Thanks Doug > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 These chemicals the body releases are not just in the bowels. The chemicals are mostly in the blood. The liver and kidneys flush the used chemicals out. So finding them in the slurry would not be a very good choice to look. Wil ________________________________ From: DuncanC <duncancrow@...> candidiasis Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 4:04:20 PM Subject: Re: GR8-Dophilus Hi Nieema; What I meant to explain is that I could find no evidence that cortisol or adrenaline are excreted into the fecal slurry, but I found evidence they are broken down and recycled in the body. If these components are not in the fecal slurry, Wil's comment about them being in there in enough quantity to kill bowel bacteria is unsupported by facts. Duncan > > > > > > > > Hi, I just bought my GR8-Dophilus. It says to take 1 with or before a meal. Also it says take 1-3 a day. With the Jarradophilus that I took before I always took 2 at a time 30 minutes before a meal and sometimes just the one time in the morning.Should I not take the GR8 30 minutes before a meal and by itself? Also would one in the morning before breakfast be enough? Thanks Doug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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