Re: H. Pylori (and inulin)

[Guest guest]

,

Listen, I am not a MD but I believe I can give you an strong advice. Nobody lost

the battle again candida. Candida can be taken down if you do an smart program.

People like to charge candida for anything they feel , and this is a big

mistake. Inulin doesn't feed H. pylori in any way. Inulin go straight to the

colon and serve as a food for bifidobacterias and bacteroides. H. pylori lives

in the stomach and head of the small bowel so inulin doesn't affect it. Ok,

clear.. I am going to give you a plan to kill H. pylori. First thing, neither

Matula tea, Mastic Gum, Fish Oil, Lgg, Vitamin C can kill H. pylori alone. Don't

take PPI alone either. Take Mastic Gum with Vitamin C for a month. Then, take

500 mg of amoxill 2 times a day for 5 days with bismuth tablests and one PPI at

bed time (omeprazole). When you finish the first 5 days, star Metronidazole 500

mg 2 times a day for 5 more days and still take bismuth tablets and the PPI

before bed. During all this time you can take Mastic Gum and Culturelle (lgg)

You need an antifungal during and after this therapy to avoid candida overgroth

more than what you believe it is now. Nystatin tablets is a good option and very

safe. Keep an anticandida diet all the time and if you want to go for the

natural way, I advice GSE, oregano oil, formula sf 722, caprilic acid and

garlic. GSE and garlic have positive effect against H. pylori. Please, don't

take long antibiotic rounds to kill H. pylori. Any triple therapy for 15 days is

dangerous for the GI tract and fail many times. I cure my H. pylori using this

way because I got the plan from a Dr. Leo Galland, MD article. Trust me this guy

is a medical authority in gastrointestinal diseases. I have more information but

I believe this is enough for what you need.

I hope this help,

.

>

> Hello all,

>

> I've been fighting (and losing) the battle against candida for as long as I

can remember. I've just found out that I also have h.pylori.

>

> For the most part, I have been unable to take inulin though not through lack

of effort. Does inulin feed h.pylori in any way? I've begun a natural supplement

program to try to eradicate h.pylori and have also just tried to reintroduce

inulin (for the umpteenth time). Is this wise?

>

> I've read through all of the past posts but any further information that

anybody could give me regarding this bacteria would be greatly appreciated. Any

success stories either using supplements or the 3 x antibiotic approach? I'm

hoping the natural way will fix the problem without resorting to antibiotics but

a lot of what I've read seems to point to antibiotics for the answer.

>

> Any comments?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Thank you very much for replying. Maybe you are right that nobody lost the

battle against candida but I see it as a losing battle until the symptoms are

under control and one can lead a reasonably normal life. This is not something I

have been able to do for years and years despite strict diet control and the

following of every candida program I can find. In any case, I am paying for the

advice of an expert and am trying to follow one program rather than multiple

ones.

What I don't understand is why I continually am unable to incorporate inulin

into my program. It constantly blows me up to the point when I feel I'm going to

burst. My Metametrix GI Stool Profile came back relatively clear with no

opportunistic bacteria. Even yeast/fungi showed no clinically significant

amounts. Only H. Pylori was positive as I mentioned and yet I have a feeling

which I liken to an alien in my gut which has not gone away for 7 years. Nothing

has shown up in cameras from either end. Something is very wrong in there but

not showing up in ANY test and not responding to anything...

Anyway, thanks for your advice and posts. I have been on this list for many

years though don't post much because I don't have any answers...just questions..

________________________________

From: <dieguez.jorge@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 4:07:48 AM

Subject: Re: H. Pylori (and inulin)

,

Listen, I am not a MD but I believe I can give you an strong advice. Nobody lost

the battle again candida. Candida can be taken down if you do an smart program.

People like to charge candida for anything they feel , and this is a big

mistake. Inulin doesn't feed H. pylori in any way. Inulin go straight to the

colon and serve as a food for bifidobacterias and bacteroides. H. pylori lives

in the stomach and head of the small bowel so inulin doesn't affect it. Ok,

clear.. I am going to give you a plan to kill H. pylori. First thing, neither

Matula tea, Mastic Gum, Fish Oil, Lgg, Vitamin C can kill H. pylori alone. Don't

take PPI alone either. Take Mastic Gum with Vitamin C for a month. Then, take

500 mg of amoxill 2 times a day for 5 days with bismuth tablests and one PPI at

bed time (omeprazole) . When you finish the first 5 days, star Metronidazole 500

mg 2 times a day for 5 more days and still take bismuth tablets and the PPI

before bed. During all this

time you can take Mastic Gum and Culturelle (lgg) You need an antifungal during

and after this therapy to avoid candida overgroth more than what you believe it

is now. Nystatin tablets is a good option and very safe. Keep an anticandida

diet all the time and if you want to go for the natural way, I advice GSE,

oregano oil, formula sf 722, caprilic acid and garlic. GSE and garlic have

positive effect against H. pylori. Please, don't take long antibiotic rounds to

kill H. pylori. Any triple therapy for 15 days is dangerous for the GI tract and

fail many times. I cure my H. pylori using this way because I got the plan from

a Dr. Leo Galland, MD article. Trust me this guy is a medical authority in

gastrointestinal diseases. I have more information but I believe this is enough

for what you need.

I hope this help,

.

>

> Hello all,

>

> I've been fighting (and losing) the battle against candida for as long as I

can remember. I've just found out that I also have h.pylori.

>

> For the most part, I have been unable to take inulin though not through lack

of effort. Does inulin feed h.pylori in any way? I've begun a natural supplement

program to try to eradicate h.pylori and have also just tried to reintroduce

inulin (for the umpteenth time). Is this wise?

>

> I've read through all of the past posts but any further information that

anybody could give me regarding this bacteria would be greatly appreciated. Any

success stories either using supplements or the 3 x antibiotic approach? I'm

hoping the natural way will fix the problem without resorting to antibiotics but

a lot of what I've read seems to point to antibiotics for the answer.

>

> Any comments?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

For those who have problems with H Pylori infection I recommend to take this

supplement. Matula Tea is new formula which is natural, don't have side effects

and easy to take.

http://www.perfectly-natural-health.com/matula-herbal-formula.php?AID=89328

Yes, it is not cheap but you`d better safe on many other supplements which don`t

work or very acidic, or can kill all kind of bacteria including good.

I was taking it last year and test from MetaMetrix came negative. I also took

supplements like Zink-Carnosine, Barberry, Broccoli, etc but I am not sure they

helped much though Zink-Carnizine reduced pain from gastritis.

Don't take antibiotics for that bc it will destroy your bacteria in the gut and

will cause Candida overgrow no matter if you will take probiotics or now. I also

used gluten free diet and gastritis diet intil I was able to eat everything I

want without pain.Hope you will do that too.

> >

> > Hello all,

> >

> > I've been fighting (and losing) the battle against candida for as long as I

can remember. I've just found out that I also have h.pylori.

> >

> > For the most part, I have been unable to take inulin though not through lack

of effort. Does inulin feed h.pylori in any way? I've begun a natural supplement

program to try to eradicate h.pylori and have also just tried to reintroduce

inulin (for the umpteenth time). Is this wise?

> >

> > I've read through all of the past posts but any further information that

anybody could give me regarding this bacteria would be greatly appreciated. Any

success stories either using supplements or the 3 x antibiotic approach? I'm

hoping the natural way will fix the problem without resorting to antibiotics but

a lot of what I've read seems to point to antibiotics for the answer.

> >

> > Any comments?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I did a lot of research before to chose a plan to kill H. Pylori. I already had

candida overgrowth at that time. I researched a lot about matula tea ( tea)

I also emailed and some guys who took it. My conclusion was it is an scam.

Finally, I took Dr. Leo Galland advice and followed his plan. After finished it,

my stool antigen test for H. pylori came back NEGATIVE.

.

> > >

> > > Hello all,

> > >

> > > I've been fighting (and losing) the battle against candida for as long as

I can remember. I've just found out that I also have h.pylori.

> > >

> > > For the most part, I have been unable to take inulin though not through

lack of effort. Does inulin feed h.pylori in any way? I've begun a natural

supplement program to try to eradicate h.pylori and have also just tried to

reintroduce inulin (for the umpteenth time). Is this wise?

> > >

> > > I've read through all of the past posts but any further information that

anybody could give me regarding this bacteria would be greatly appreciated. Any

success stories either using supplements or the 3 x antibiotic approach? I'm

hoping the natural way will fix the problem without resorting to antibiotics but

a lot of what I've read seems to point to antibiotics for the answer.

> > >

> > > Any comments?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

, sometimes I wonder about the development of these curing theories for

candida. If the results of taking inulin or whey are completely unacceptable

then what good is the theory. This gross bloating that inulin can cause is not

the way people want to live. I know some tolerate the whey but I have severe

constipation with it( and that problem disappears after getting off of it) as

well as an unexplained draining drowsiness where I want to drink coffee even at

10pm. These may be ideal ways to beat candida but somewhat impractical. Doug

From: <deltabeats_71@...>

Subject: Re: Re: H. Pylori (and inulin)

candidiasis

Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 7:57 AM

 

,

Thank you very much for replying. Maybe you are right that nobody lost the

battle against candida but I see it as a losing battle until the symptoms are

under control and one can lead a reasonably normal life. This is not something I

have been able to do for years and years despite strict diet control and the

following of every candida program I can find. In any case, I am paying for the

advice of an expert and am trying to follow one program rather than multiple

ones.

What I don't understand is why I continually am unable to incorporate inulin

into my program. It constantly blows me up to the point when I feel I'm going to

burst. My Metametrix GI Stool Profile came back relatively clear with no

opportunistic bacteria. Even yeast/fungi showed no clinically significant

amounts. Only H. Pylori was positive as I mentioned and yet I have a feeling

which I liken to an alien in my gut which has not gone away for 7 years. Nothing

has shown up in cameras from either end. Something is very wrong in there but

not showing up in ANY test and not responding to anything...

Anyway, thanks for your advice and posts. I have been on this list for many

years though don't post much because I don't have any answers...just questions..

____________ _________ _________ __

From: <dieguez.jorge>

candidiasis

Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 4:07:48 AM

Subject: Re: H. Pylori (and inulin)

,

Listen, I am not a MD but I believe I can give you an strong advice. Nobody lost

the battle again candida. Candida can be taken down if you do an smart program.

People like to charge candida for anything they feel , and this is a big

mistake. Inulin doesn't feed H. pylori in any way. Inulin go straight to the

colon and serve as a food for bifidobacterias and bacteroides. H. pylori lives

in the stomach and head of the small bowel so inulin doesn't affect it. Ok,

clear.. I am going to give you a plan to kill H. pylori. First thing, neither

Matula tea, Mastic Gum, Fish Oil, Lgg, Vitamin C can kill H. pylori alone. Don't

take PPI alone either. Take Mastic Gum with Vitamin C for a month. Then, take

500 mg of amoxill 2 times a day for 5 days with bismuth tablests and one PPI at

bed time (omeprazole) . When you finish the first 5 days, star Metronidazole 500

mg 2 times a day for 5 more days and still take bismuth tablets and the PPI

before bed. During all this

time you can take Mastic Gum and Culturelle (lgg) You need an antifungal during

and after this therapy to avoid candida overgroth more than what you believe it

is now. Nystatin tablets is a good option and very safe. Keep an anticandida

diet all the time and if you want to go for the natural way, I advice GSE,

oregano oil, formula sf 722, caprilic acid and garlic. GSE and garlic have

positive effect against H. pylori. Please, don't take long antibiotic rounds to

kill H. pylori. Any triple therapy for 15 days is dangerous for the GI tract and

fail many times. I cure my H. pylori using this way because I got the plan from

a Dr. Leo Galland, MD article. Trust me this guy is a medical authority in

gastrointestinal diseases. I have more information but I believe this is enough

for what you need.

I hope this help,

.

>

> Hello all,

>

> I've been fighting (and losing) the battle against candida for as long as I

can remember. I've just found out that I also have h.pylori.

>

> For the most part, I have been unable to take inulin though not through lack

of effort. Does inulin feed h.pylori in any way? I've begun a natural supplement

program to try to eradicate h.pylori and have also just tried to reintroduce

inulin (for the umpteenth time). Is this wise?

>

> I've read through all of the past posts but any further information that

anybody could give me regarding this bacteria would be greatly appreciated. Any

success stories either using supplements or the 3 x antibiotic approach? I'm

hoping the natural way will fix the problem without resorting to antibiotics but

a lot of what I've read seems to point to antibiotics for the answer.

>

> Any comments?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Doug,

Inulin cause bloating to everybody. Inulin is a hard to digest carbohydrate. You

don't need to take it ALL your live. Inulin ferment in the colon a produce gases

but feed bifidobacterias. If you are lack off bifidos, prebiotics are the way to

go to increase them. When I was in my worst time, I took inulin and I was

passing gases all the time night and day. I knew it was the Inulin but I did

because I prefered to be 6 months with bloating than all my life suffering with

candida and dysbiosis. Simple, I paid the price to be in the step I am now. I

believe I did good business.

.

>

> >

>

> > Hello all,

>

> >

>

> > I've been fighting (and losing) the battle against candida for as long as I

can remember. I've just found out that I also have h.pylori.

>

> >

>

> > For the most part, I have been unable to take inulin though not through lack

of effort. Does inulin feed h.pylori in any way? I've begun a natural supplement

program to try to eradicate h.pylori and have also just tried to reintroduce

inulin (for the umpteenth time). Is this wise?

>

> >

>

> > I've read through all of the past posts but any further information that

anybody could give me regarding this bacteria would be greatly appreciated. Any

success stories either using supplements or the 3 x antibiotic approach? I'm

hoping the natural way will fix the problem without resorting to antibiotics but

a lot of what I've read seems to point to antibiotics for the answer.

>

> >

>

> > Any comments?

>

> >

>

> > Thanks,

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

[Guest guest]

, you are saying yes it did cause you bloating? Gas that leaves my body is

one thing I can deal with but bloating if bad enough is a problem for me as I

have a combo of 3 hernia areas and was sewn up tight without mesh when they

fixed the first two. What that means is everytime I lean over to buckle my

sandals I have to be careful not to tear more. I am going to order some Now

inulin tomorrow and give it a try. I tried the Fiberrific but gave up on it

soon. I will try again and try to perservere  more and also cut back on how

much and see if that helps. Thanks for leveling withme and I am thinking, as you

say 6 months for the diet and inulin. If candida wants to live in me forever,

then I will live sick and EAT WELL. Doug

From: <dieguez.jorge@...>

Subject: Re: H. Pylori (and inulin)

candidiasis

Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 10:02 PM

 

Doug,

Inulin cause bloating to everybody. Inulin is a hard to digest carbohydrate. You

don't need to take it ALL your live. Inulin ferment in the colon a produce gases

but feed bifidobacterias. If you are lack off bifidos, prebiotics are the way to

go to increase them. When I was in my worst time, I took inulin and I was

passing gases all the time night and day. I knew it was the Inulin but I did

because I prefered to be 6 months with bloating than all my life suffering with

candida and dysbiosis. Simple, I paid the price to be in the step I am now. I

believe I did good business.

.

>

> >

>

> > Hello all,

>

> >

>

> > I've been fighting (and losing) the battle against candida for as long as I

can remember. I've just found out that I also have h.pylori.

>

> >

>

> > For the most part, I have been unable to take inulin though not through lack

of effort. Does inulin feed h.pylori in any way? I've begun a natural supplement

program to try to eradicate h.pylori and have also just tried to reintroduce

inulin (for the umpteenth time). Is this wise?

>

> >

>

> > I've read through all of the past posts but any further information that

anybody could give me regarding this bacteria would be greatly appreciated. Any

success stories either using supplements or the 3 x antibiotic approach? I'm

hoping the natural way will fix the problem without resorting to antibiotics but

a lot of what I've read seems to point to antibiotics for the answer.

>

> >

>

> > Any comments?

>

> >

>

> > Thanks,

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

[Guest guest]

It cause me bloating and flatulence, both. Start with a low dose.

Good Luck,

.

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Hello all,

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > I've been fighting (and losing) the battle against candida for as long as

I can remember. I've just found out that I also have h.pylori.

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > For the most part, I have been unable to take inulin though not through

lack of effort. Does inulin feed h.pylori in any way? I've begun a natural

supplement program to try to eradicate h.pylori and have also just tried to

reintroduce inulin (for the umpteenth time). Is this wise?

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > I've read through all of the past posts but any further information that

anybody could give me regarding this bacteria would be greatly appreciated. Any

success stories either using supplements or the 3 x antibiotic approach? I'm

hoping the natural way will fix the problem without resorting to antibiotics but

a lot of what I've read seems to point to antibiotics for the answer.

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Any comments?

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Thanks,

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > >

[Guest guest]

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Hello all,

> >

> > >

> >

> > > I've been fighting (and losing) the battle against candida for as long as

I can remember. I've just found out that I also have h.pylori.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > For the most part, I have been unable to take inulin though not through

lack of effort. Does inulin feed h.pylori in any way? I've begun a natural

supplement program to try to eradicate h.pylori and have also just tried to

reintroduce inulin (for the umpteenth time). Is this wise?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > I've read through all of the past posts but any further information that

anybody could give me regarding this bacteria would be greatly appreciated. Any

success stories either using supplements or the 3 x antibiotic approach? I'm

hoping the natural way will fix the problem without resorting to antibiotics but

a lot of what I've read seems to point to antibiotics for the answer.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Any comments?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Thanks,

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Inulin does not cause bloating and gas in everyone, . It makes no sense to

my brain why you people keep using these things and causing this kind of

suffering to yourselves. Amazing to me.

The natural way to get inulin in the body is in whole foods! Taking these

supplements like inulin is just not natural. Inulin does really nothing for

core health from my view over here. This is just my view, though.

And , I use MMS and cut all sugars, grains, nuts, seed and tubers from your

diet and in most cases I have seen in my clinic in about 120 days the H pylori

is gone, along with a significant other pathogenic load.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

Vibrational Medical Science Practitioner; working with the body's electrical

system which consists of all muscles, connective tissue, nerve sheaths, rod and

cone cells of the eyes and the DNA.

Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex and more violent. It

takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage, to move in the opposite direction.

Albert Einstein

http://mbsre-set.com

http://environotics.com

http://beeassist.com

________________________________

From: <dieguez.jorge@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 11:57:32 PM

Subject: Re: H. Pylori (and inulin)

> >

> > , sometimes I wonder about the development of these curing theories for

candida. If the results of taking inulin or whey are completely unacceptable

then what good is the theory. This gross bloating that inulin can cause is not

the way people want to live. I know some tolerate the whey but I have severe

constipation with it( and that problem disappears after getting off of it) as

well as an unexplained draining drowsiness where I want to drink coffee even at

10pm. These may be ideal ways to beat candida but somewhat impractical. Doug <!

[Guest guest]

So it actually worked for you in the long run? I have taken inulin for monthes

on end in the past, and it only seemed to worsen brain fog and thrush along with

all the bloating and farting.

greg

>

> Doug,

> Inulin cause bloating to everybody. Inulin is a hard to digest carbohydrate.

You don't need to take it ALL your live. Inulin ferment in the colon a produce

gases but feed bifidobacterias. If you are lack off bifidos, prebiotics are the

way to go to increase them. When I was in my worst time, I took inulin and I was

passing gases all the time night and day. I knew it was the Inulin but I did

because I prefered to be 6 months with bloating than all my life suffering with

candida and dysbiosis. Simple, I paid the price to be in the step I am now. I

believe I did good business.

> .

[Guest guest]

There isn't human who can digest inulin. When you eat something that you don't

digest properly, it causes gases and flatulence. Wil, I have noticed you like to

go against the reality. It is probably your personality.

> > >

> > > , sometimes I wonder about the development of these curing theories

for candida. If the results of taking inulin or whey are completely unacceptable

then what good is the theory. This gross bloating that inulin can cause is not

the way people want to live. I know some tolerate the whey but I have severe

constipation with it( and that problem disappears after getting off of it) as

well as an unexplained draining drowsiness where I want to drink coffee even at

10pm. These may be ideal ways to beat candida but somewhat impractical. Doug <!

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am just relaying information from my personal experience from my clinic and

handling alot of bodies.

You have brought up an interesting point with your statement, " There isn't human

who can digest inulin " my question is WHY would you consume something if you

know your body can not digest it? Does not make sense to me.

Over time I have developed a different view of health as most people. I have

come to know almost all approaches to health that are popular, allopathic and

natural, are focused on dealing with managing symptoms and do almost nothing for

core health. I do manage symptom to keep the clients relatively comfortable

while dealing with the core issues. I can understand your questioning me on my

views. I do appreciate it . Some times I neglect to remember that I am

talking here with people who have not the same understand as my views.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

Vibrational Medical Science Practitioner; working with the body's electrical

system which consists of all muscles, connective tissue, nerve sheaths, rod and

cone cells of the eyes and the DNA.

Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex and more violent. It

takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage, to move in the opposite direction.

Albert Einstein

http://mbsre-set.com

http://environotics.com

http://beeassist.com

________________________________

From: <dieguez.jorge@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Wed, February 24, 2010 7:53:26 PM

Subject: Re: H. Pylori (and inulin)

There isn't human who can digest inulin. When you eat something that you don't

digest properly, it causes gases and flatulence. Wil, I have noticed you like to

go against the reality. It is probably your personality.

[Guest guest]

I know you have a different view. I am not questioning it but there are some

elemental things that don't rely on point of views. Inulin is a kind of

carbohydrate hard to digest for humans but it offers benefits for those

bacterias which are your friends. The main problem with candidiasis is the

destruction of the friendly flora. If you know your gut microbiota is damaged

after antibiotic intake, you need to try any way to recover it. It is

demostrated by science that inulin increase lactobacillus and bifidobacteria

colonies. Inulin benefits more the bifidos than the lactos because Inulin isn't

fermented in the small bowel but in the colon. Those bacterias multiply very

fast when they are feeded. Inulin is food for them. What else you want??? It is

true that many food contain Inulin and F.O.S. which are natural prebiotics but

inulin powder is the same and more concentrated. If you want to win the battle

against candida, you must put all your efforts in healing the gut. The immnue

system works properly when the gut ecology is balanced and until you don't

recover the immune function, candida is going to be present. It is true that

candida can affect any other part of the body, but its headquater is in the gut.

I believe in those MDs who discovered this syndrome (Truss, Crook, etc) In fact,

they hold all merits because they found the problem. The natural way to heal is

excellent and I love it, but is even better when you are healthy. When you are

sick, you need to do every possible thing to recover and this include medical

drugs. If Inulin is going to help you to recover the lactic acid production

bacterias which keep candida in proper levels, why not to take it??? Give me an

strong reason. I advocate prebiotics more than probiotics because science can

not prove if permanent colonization is possible after taking probiotics. This is

a fact and I am going deep reading microbilogy articles. Today technology rely

in stool analysis to know if an strain of freindly bacteria can be recover after

months of stopping its intake. Since this technic is not fully reliable, they

can not afirm a permanent colonization is possible. Anyway, you are a naturopath

dr, I don't have to explain all this to you. I am waiting for something real

solid to learn from you. I love to study and listen. I don't believe I know

everything about this candidiasis but something I must know because I have been

glued to the computer and books for 2 years. If I believe I can help others, I

do. Everybody have the right to chose what they believe is helpful for them.

But, if you say Inulin isn't good, you are contradicting the world. When people

are ill, they don't want to be exploring new ideas, they want solutions, and

known solutions.

.

>

> I am just relaying information from my personal experience from my clinic and

handling alot of bodies.

>

> You have brought up an interesting point with your statement, " There isn't

human who can digest inulin " my question is WHY would you consume something if

you know your body can not digest it? Does not make sense to me.

>

> Over time I have developed a different view of health as most people. I have

come to know almost all approaches to health that are popular, allopathic and

natural, are focused on dealing with managing symptoms and do almost nothing for

core health. I do manage symptom to keep the clients relatively comfortable

while dealing with the core issues. I can understand your questioning me on my

views. I do appreciate it . Some times I neglect to remember that I am

talking here with people who have not the same understand as my views.

>

> Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

> Vibrational Medical Science Practitioner; working with the body's electrical

system which consists of all muscles, connective tissue, nerve sheaths, rod and

cone cells of the eyes and the DNA.

>

> Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex and more violent.

It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage, to move in the opposite

direction. Albert Einstein

>

> http://mbsre-set.com

> http://environotics.com

> http://beeassist.com

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: <dieguez.jorge@...>

> candidiasis

> Sent: Wed, February 24, 2010 7:53:26 PM

> Subject: Re: H. Pylori (and inulin)

>

>

> There isn't human who can digest inulin. When you eat something that you don't

digest properly, it causes gases and flatulence. Wil, I have noticed you like to

go against the reality. It is probably your personality.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It appears you are saying that natural approaches to healing deal with managing

symptoms and do almost nothing for core health. Am I reading that correctly?

>

> I am just relaying information from my personal experience from my clinic and

handling alot of bodies.

>

> You have brought up an interesting point with your statement, " There isn't

human who can digest inulin " my question is WHY would you consume something if

you know your body can not digest it? Does not make sense to me.

>

> Over time I have developed a different view of health as most people. I have

come to know almost all approaches to health that are popular, allopathic and

natural, are focused on dealing with managing symptoms and do almost nothing for

core health. I do manage symptom to keep the clients relatively comfortable

while dealing with the core issues. I can understand your questioning me on my

views. I do appreciate it . Some times I neglect to remember that I am

talking here with people who have not the same understand as my views.

>

> Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

> Vibrational Medical Science Practitioner; working with the body's electrical

system which consists of all muscles, connective tissue, nerve sheaths, rod and

cone cells of the eyes and the DNA.

>

> Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex and more violent.

It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage, to move in the opposite

direction. Albert Einstein

>

> http://mbsre-set.com

> http://environotics.com

> http://beeassist.com

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: <dieguez.jorge@...>

> candidiasis

> Sent: Wed, February 24, 2010 7:53:26 PM

> Subject: Re: H. Pylori (and inulin)

>

>

> There isn't human who can digest inulin. When you eat something that you don't

digest properly, it causes gases and flatulence. Wil, I have noticed you like to

go against the reality. It is probably your personality.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, almost all the natural and allopathic medicine approaches I see today are

just managing symptoms. Most diseases and symptoms are from a form of depletion

of one or more of the vital nutrients to keep us alive. These would be

minerals, amino acids, microorganisms, air and water.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

Vibrational Medical Science Practitioner; working with the body's electrical

system which consists of all muscles, connective tissue, nerve sheaths, rod and

cone cells of the eyes and the DNA.

Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex and more violent. It

takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage, to move in the opposite direction.

Albert Einstein

http://mbsre-set.com

http://environotics.com

http://beeassist.com

________________________________

From: <kindajazzy2@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Wed, February 24, 2010 10:53:00 PM

Subject: Re: H. Pylori (and inulin)

It appears you are saying that natural approaches to healing deal with managing

symptoms and do almost nothing for core health. Am I reading that correctly?

[Guest guest]

, i thought the same when I learned about Matula first time bc it is

expensive thing.But I did not have a choice bc I can`t tolerate gum of any kind

including Mastic gum and other HP supplements for a long time.I have one box of

then still but now i don`t need them.

Matula worked for me though it did not helped for candida. If something helped

you it is great but you can`t claim that ONLy this remedy can help.My test was

negative too and no pain from gastritis I had in the past.I also had endoscopy

with biopcy recently which is negative for all bugs and any imflammation. I was

told that even hernia was gone and no acid reflux is showed on monometry test.

..And I believe that now I am free from Candida too though I am still on low-carb

diet but I hope I will be able to drop it in the future.

> > > >

> > > > Hello all,

> > > >

> > > > I've been fighting (and losing) the battle against candida for as long

as I can remember. I've just found out that I also have h.pylori.

> > > >

> > > > For the most part, I have been unable to take inulin though not through

lack of effort. Does inulin feed h.pylori in any way? I've begun a natural

supplement program to try to eradicate h.pylori and have also just tried to

reintroduce inulin (for the umpteenth time). Is this wise?

> > > >

> > > > I've read through all of the past posts but any further information that

anybody could give me regarding this bacteria would be greatly appreciated. Any

success stories either using supplements or the 3 x antibiotic approach? I'm

hoping the natural way will fix the problem without resorting to antibiotics but

a lot of what I've read seems to point to antibiotics for the answer.

> > > >

> > > > Any comments?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

I am really happy you got those results. I had the money to buy Matula but I

couldn't find any successful testimony in the web. All I found, were

website's testimonies. I took Mastic Gum and found it a very good product

against acid, and stomach problems. You know some people do better with one

product than others. It is a reality that we must accept. I always try to advice

people the best I can. Since antibiotics can wreck havocs, I don't advice

anybody to go for a triple therapy to kill h. pylori, insted you can do a

lighter sequence therapy which most of the time is effective and with a few side

effects. If antibiotics are a must, you need to find the way to take them in the

best possible way to get results and avoid big damages to the health. I am happy

that tea worked for you.

Thanks for your testimony.

.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello all,

> > > > >

> > > > > I've been fighting (and losing) the battle against candida for as long

as I can remember. I've just found out that I also have h.pylori.

> > > > >

> > > > > For the most part, I have been unable to take inulin though not

through lack of effort. Does inulin feed h.pylori in any way? I've begun a

natural supplement program to try to eradicate h.pylori and have also just tried

to reintroduce inulin (for the umpteenth time). Is this wise?

> > > > >

> > > > > I've read through all of the past posts but any further information

that anybody could give me regarding this bacteria would be greatly appreciated.

Any success stories either using supplements or the 3 x antibiotic approach? I'm

hoping the natural way will fix the problem without resorting to antibiotics but

a lot of what I've read seems to point to antibiotics for the answer.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any comments?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Isn't fiber by definition undigestible?  And yet necessary.

 

Wil, do you not prescribe any supplements to people which can also be found in

foods?  Vitamin C? E? Minerals?  Taking inulin is the same principle.  I

don't take it anymore, but I don't doubt that it helps some people.  Most

people aren't going to eat enough tubors or dandelion greens to get lots of

inulin.  Maybe you think they should, but if they can tolerate the supplemental

inulin, where's the problem?  Anyway, you don't think people should eat tubors

anyway.  Does this mean you don't think that inulin itself is necessary? 

Just wondering. 

From: Wil Spencer <wilspencer@...>

Subject: Re: Re: H. Pylori (and inulin)

candidiasis

Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 7:24 PM

 

I am just relaying information from my personal experience from my clinic and

handling alot of bodies.

You have brought up an interesting point with your statement, " There isn't human

who can digest inulin " my question is WHY would you consume something if you

know your body can not digest it? Does not make sense to me.

Over time I have developed a different view of health as most people. I have

come to know almost all approaches to health that are popular, allopathic and

natural, are focused on dealing with managing symptoms and do almost nothing for

core health. I do manage symptom to keep the clients relatively comfortable

while dealing with the core issues. I can understand your questioning me on my

views. I do appreciate it . Some times I neglect to remember that I am

talking here with people who have not the same understand as my views.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

Vibrational Medical Science Practitioner; working with the body's electrical

system which consists of all muscles, connective tissue, nerve sheaths, rod and

cone cells of the eyes and the DNA.

Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex and more violent. It

takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage, to move in the opposite direction.

Albert Einstein

http://mbsre- set.com

http://environotics .com

http://beeassist. com

____________ _________ _________ __

From: <dieguez.jorge>

candidiasis

Sent: Wed, February 24, 2010 7:53:26 PM

Subject: Re: H. Pylori (and inulin)

There isn't human who can digest inulin. When you eat something that you don't

digest properly, it causes gases and flatulence. Wil, I have noticed you like to

go against the reality. It is probably your personality.