RE: Re: Candida & Adrenal Fatigue: Update and Postive Notes

[Guest guest]

What do you mean by the magnesium baths seem to make you loose too many

minerals. I have just started taking epsom salt baths and I've noticed a calming

effect and decrease of candida symptoms. But if I'm loosing minerals from the

epsom salt baths...that would concern me.

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From: Carolyn <carolynmil@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Sun, September 26, 2010 12:16:14 PM

Subject: Re: Candida & Adrenal Fatigue: Update and Postive Notes

Hi Joan,

I responded to your message, but it did not seem to get posted.

Thanks for the feedback. I am now using Magnesium foot soaks and 5-HTP about 30

minutes before going to bed. I also stopped the B-vitamins at night. Last night,

I slept very well. I still didn't get to bed until about 12:00MN, but stayed in

bed until 8:30AM. So, I am going to try that routine for a while and see how it

works.

The magnesium baths seem to make me lose too many other minerals, so I am going

to try the above routine instead.

I am encouraged by your response. I think I figured the culprit for my

distention. I was taking Mucinex (children's) for sinus congestion since I have

problems swallowing pills. Well, I noticed that the Mucinex has Dextrose and

Sorbitol in it. I believe those chemicals were causing some die-off since I am

also on Anti-fungals.

Take Care and,

In Light & Health...

Carolyn

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>be improved by taking a magsium beth (soak in two cups of Epsom salts an hour

>before you want to fall asleep). Second....dairy presented a problem for me to

>get really well so all dairy for me had to be eliminated. I use quality

>probiotics...starting with a brand with millions and then increasing to

billions

>of acidophilous and bifidous bacteria. Later I would add a wider spectrum of

>probiotics...always aiming for millions to billions.

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Yes, B vitamins should be taken earlier in the day.

I think Mucinex is a " good " drug even though it has less than optimal

ingredients....I take it regularly to keep my upper sinuses (way up on my

forehead) draining as the headaches if I don't take Muscinex are incapacitating.

The foot soaks are good......how interesting about minerals and the baths.

At my worst I supplemented liquid minerals and World Organics liquid

B's.....keep in mind that I was REALLY sick and unable to work or leave home

much of the time.

I make ginger tea...never was a fan of ginger, but the benefits of a mild

antifungal and all the rest have been good for me.

I have found that the parents of autistic children have the best info by the

way.

Joan

candidiasis

From: carolynmil@...

Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 16:16:14 +0000

Subject: Re: Candida & Adrenal Fatigue: Update and Postive Notes

Hi Joan,

I responded to your message, but it did not seem to get posted.

Thanks for the feedback. I am now using Magnesium foot soaks and 5-HTP about 30

minutes before going to bed. I also stopped the B-vitamins at night. Last night,

I slept very well. I still didn't get to bed until about 12:00MN, but stayed in

bed until 8:30AM. So, I am going to try that routine for a while and see how it

works.

The magnesium baths seem to make me lose too many other minerals, so I am going

to try the above routine instead.

I am encouraged by your response. I think I figured the culprit for my

distention. I was taking Mucinex (children's) for sinus congestion since I have

problems swallowing pills. Well, I noticed that the Mucinex has Dextrose and

Sorbitol in it. I believe those chemicals were causing some die-off since I am

also on Anti-fungals.

Take Care and,

In Light & Health...

Carolyn

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be improved by taking a magsium beth (soak in two cups of Epsom salts an hour

before you want to fall asleep). Second....dairy presented a problem for me to

get really well so all dairy for me had to be eliminated. I use quality

probiotics...starting with a brand with millions and then increasing to billions

of acidophilous and bifidous bacteria. Later I would add a wider spectrum of

probiotics...always aiming for millions to billions.

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[Guest guest]

Carolyn,

If you are eating grits, then you are not eating the way you need to to beat

candida. I would do a fairly strict candida diet for two weeks...maybe more

depending how much candida I had and then add the antifungals. Grits would

definitely feed the candida which you are trying to do away with. Yeast will

mutate under those circumstances and go into their hyphae stage, send down roots

into the intestines and leaky gut will be the result.

I can't remember if you are using digestive enzymes and Betaine HCI.

Joan

candidiasis

From: carolynmil@...

Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 00:19:47 +0000

Subject: Re: Candida & Adrenal Fatigue: Update and Postive Notes

Joan,

I think I might also be sensitive to the Sucralose in the Mucinex. I can't

swallow pills very well, so am left with the children's version of the same.

The last couple of days, I have noticed that I have a tendency to want to belch,

but not always successful. It seems as if I have gastric distention, but it's

not moving. So, I may try some Ginger to see if I have any success. Any ideas?

I ate grits yesterday and today, and am beginning to suspect that maybe I am not

digesting the grits very well. There are so many possibilities, so I am just

struggling to see what's with my indigestion.

I am up and about, but I still have moments of being uncomfortable. (Like the

needing to belch, but sometimes being unable to).

I am no Nizoral and Nystatin, and sometimes wonder if these drugs are creating

some of the gastric distress that I experience. The Nizoral ends in 7 days, and

I will be very happy. I will probably do at least another month of Nystatin

since I have only been on these drugs for about 3 weeks.

Take care, and thanks for the feedback.

Carolyn

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hour before you want to fall asleep). Second....dairy presented a problem for

me to get really well so all dairy for me had to be eliminated. I use quality

probiotics...starting with a brand with millions and then increasing to billions

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[Guest guest]

If one is sensitive to yeast, then live culture cider vinegar will probably be a

problem. I would try splet as my form of grain...I is an old form of wheat that

has not been hybridized and is more easily digestible.

Quinoa needs to be thoroughly rinsed before cooking.

Good enzymes, by the way.

Rice is hybridized.....so AI would stay away until my body/digestion is less

stressed. I'm not sure where brown rice would fit in.....I would try a less

hybridized rice variety...Forbidden Rice perhaps....I something less commercial.

Joan

candidiasis

From: carolynmil@...

Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 01:37:02 +0000

Subject: Re: Candida & Adrenal Fatigue: Update and Postive Notes

Hi Joan,

Thanks for the feedback.

I just introduced grits this week, after being on a very strict anti-candida

diet for about 6 weeks and on Anti-fungals for 3 weeks. I have basically

consumed nothing but veggies and protein for 6 weeks, and thought I might start

adding some grains. I tried quinoa, but it didn't agree with me.

According to Dr. Crook, grits can be consumed, but in moderation. So, I thought

it would be OK to try them to see if my body could digest them. I am not sure if

that really caused the bloating, indigestion, but want to rule-out

possibilities.

There seem to be so many different approaches to dietary options. Some folks

include fruit, some do not. Some include grains, some do not. I believe you

almost have to determine what works for your body. I do try to use Dr. Crook's

approach as the basis for my treatment plan (and my Doctor, who practices

Holistic as well as Traditional medicine).

I am using DigestMore Enzymes by RenewLife (as well as an Indigestion product

that has Betaine HCL). Some folks think that Bitters and Apple Cider Vinegar are

more effective than enzymes as they do not replace the body's natural function

(generating enzymes). I have not introduced Apple Cider Vinegar, but I am taking

Grape Bitters along with the Enzymes.

Again, thanks a lot, and keep the feedback coming. It is much appreciated.

Carolyn

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me to get really well so all dairy for me had to be eliminated. I use quality

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I drink V8 so I am getting sodium and potassium.....my candida is relatively

under control.

Here is a link for potassium rich foods and is really interesting reading.

http://www.highbloodpressureinfo.org/foods-with-potassium.html

Joan

candidiasis

From: carolynmil@...

Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 15:28:23 +0000

Subject: Re: Candida & Adrenal Fatigue: Update and Postive Notes

Hi Eva,

I perspire a lot when I am doing the baths, so I know that I am losing lots of

sodium. It is my understanding that if you sweat a lot during these baths, you

may be losing potassium as well. This was one person's experience, so I am

concerned that I may create an electrolyte imbalance.

I have resumed taking the baths, as they do help me relax and sleep better.

However, I do lick a little sea salt after getting out of the tub. At least that

replaces some of the Sodium that is lost.

Carolyn

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I have V 8 daily and it has made a huge difference in my recovery....sometimes I

do organic and sometimes I do the commercial brands. I do read the lables.

Joan

candidiasis

From: carolynmil@...

Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 17:19:20 +0000

Subject: Re: Candida & Adrenal Fatigue: Update and Postive Notes

Thanks Joan....great idea on the V-8.

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I guess I'm going to stick my neck out on this

one....http://v8juice.com/Products.aspx......here's the link on the info for V

8....if one drank eight ounces they would get 13 carbs....I drink the smallest

can. My candida is quite under control so I do not view a few carbs from beets

as a major threat to my well-being. As carbs go, I think V 8 has too many good

things going for it to paint it black at this juncture.

Joan

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Do you use V-8 for the Potassium? I wondered because it has beets in it and that

is a definite feeder of candida.

Thanks,

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I am selective about carbs......at my strictest I I included 1/4 C dark berries

and some pineapple juice (to heal intestines) in my smoothie, and all

vegetables except potatoes, corn, and peas. I was able to use whey at that

time. I used wild rice (a seed) and not rice. I did not add yams until about

eight weeks into the diet.....I did eight very strict weeks of elimination.

after much trial and error dairy of all kinds proved to be a NO-No. I added V

8 after the eight weeks although I made homemade V 8 before that. No dried

fruit...some rice milk and some almond milk.

I added spelt bread in small amounts at about six weeks and some spelt granules

in homemade taboulli.

I could have killed for a morsel of chocolate!

I had a rare yeast, severe leaky gut, candida, and malnutrition....I toook and

still take lots of supplements

Joan

candidiasis

From: carolynmil@...

Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 00:28:50 +0000

Subject: Re: Candida & Adrenal Fatigue: Update and Postive Notes

Joan,

One other question (or questions). Have you included carbs in your diet? I find

the no-carb diet to be very restrictive, and I do not think my overall health

will improve via this route. That's why I am trying to gradually introduce

basmati rice and yams in moderation.

Kind Regards,

Carolyn

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I was on Adreset and Adrenogen for two years. I am still careful to supplement

several times per week with liquid B vitamins even though my diet is exemplary.

My malabsorption problem persists.....maybe microscopic colitis.

That fragile feeling is no fun....I remember telling that to the nurse and the

gastro laughing at me right before my endoscopy....I found new medical

practitioners.

I had trouble with the anethesia and the nurse was so kind.

Joan

Hi Joan,

I hope I didn't sound offensive in any way. I am just trying to gather info on

the rationale for using V-8. If it is a good thing, then I will consider using

it in the near term.

I have only been aggressively treating my candida for the last 7.5 weeks (only 3

weeks on Anti-fungals), but I have made a lot of progress. I also have Adrenal

issues (not sure which came first, since I was under enormous stress in my

Corporate job). Additionally, had to have oral surgery in June, and was forced

to take Antibiotics for a protracted period of time.

I guess there are degrees to the Candida issue. Some folks indicate that they

can / could not function. I have not been bed-ridden, but the Adrenal impact

(and Candida) sure tired me on many days as well as impacted me emotionally.

(felt fragile on occasion, which was different for me). I am keeping a journal,

and noting those things that send a surge in my candida response as well as

those that have a zero effect.

That said, I think I have come a long ways in a short time, and am trying to

continue down that path. So, believe me, I am open to healing and any feedback

is very well received.

Thanks for your kindness,

Carolyn

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There may have been a few more vegetables that I did not include...I am fuzzy at

this point. I still limit white potatoes, corn, and peas.

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berries and some pineapple juice (to heal intestines) in my smoothie, and all

vegetables except potatoes, corn, and peas. I was able to use whey at that

time. I used wild rice (a seed) and not rice. I did not add yams until about

eight weeks into the diet.....I did eight very strict weeks of elimination.

after much trial and error dairy of all kinds proved to be a NO-No. I added V

8 after the eight weeks although I made homemade V 8 before that. No dried

fruit...some rice milk and some almond milk.

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granules in homemade taboulli.

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> I had a rare yeast, severe leaky gut, candida, and malnutrition....I toook and

still take lots of supplements

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> Subject: RE: Re: Candida & Adrenal Fatigue: Update and Postive

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> Date: Wednesday, September 29, 2010, 8:41 PM

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> I am selective about carbs......at my strictest I I

> included 1/4 C dark berries and some pineapple juice (to

> heal intestines)  in my smoothie, and all vegetables

> except potatoes, corn, and peas.  I was able to use

> whey at that time.  I used wild rice (a seed) and not

> rice.  I did not add yams until about eight weeks into

> the diet.....I did eight very strict weeks of

> elimination.  after much trial and error dairy of all

> kinds  proved to be a NO-No.  I added V 8 after

> the eight weeks although I made homemade V 8 before

> that.  No dried fruit...some rice milk and some almond

> milk.

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> some spelt granules in homemade taboulli.

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> I could have killed for a morsel of chocolate!

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> I had a rare yeast, severe leaky gut, candida, and

> malnutrition....I toook and still take lots of supplements

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> Joan

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> From: carolynmil@...

> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 00:28:50 +0000

> Subject: Re: Candida & Adrenal Fatigue:

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> restrictive, and I do not think my overall health will

> improve via this route. That's why I am trying to gradually

> introduce basmati rice and yams in moderation.

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[Guest guest]

banana=high sugar

cabbage is very good for the detox system and the liver's functioning

Joan

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You are definitely on to something as far as I am concerned. For example, I

consumed Cream of Buckwheat with steamed cabbage for breakfast one day, and did

not have any reaction. The portion of buckwheat was small. However, on Saturday,

I increased the Cream of Buckwheat substantially, and did not have any

vegetables at all. I did not feel good at all.

That said, you are probably right. It may be more a function of carb overload

than food sensitivity. Because I had the Food Safe testing done, and I was found

to be sensitive to: Gliadins, Eggs - white and yolk, pineapple, bananas, and

several other things. But, not to Buckwheat.

Will definitely consider the quantity as I introduce the changes.

Many thanks,

Carolyn

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I know... is having issues.....and it is happening in all three groups I

belong to....too bad because one of my messages was spot on with help for

someone at that time!

As an aside (to someone) if two cups of Epsom salts is too much ...only do one.

Sometimes less of a good thing is what your body is ready for.

Joan

Joan...this message was posted a long time ago. Not sure why it is just

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Carolyn

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me to get really well so all dairy for me had to be eliminated. I use quality

probiotics...starting with a brand with millions and then increasing to billions

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