Guest guest Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 Milk, the Deadly Poison: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 I don't think raw milk is the same thing though, is it? It is only pasteurised Milk which is bad I thought. Dee     --  <The calender of the Theocracy of Muntab counts down, not up. No-one knows why, but it might not be a good idea to hang around and find out.> -- (Terry Pratchett, Wyrd Sisters) -- Dairy Milk, the Deadly Poison: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 This would be one of your notmilk agenda videos, Sharon? Duncan > > Milk, the Deadly Poison: > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 This is typical of so many things though, isn't it Duncan i.e. The cholesterol myth, the fat myth etc., etc., Dee     --  <The calender of the Theocracy of Muntab counts down, not up. No-one knows why, but it might not be a good idea to hang around and find out.> -- (Terry Pratchett, Wyrd Sisters) -- Re: Dairy Dee, typically the NotMilk agendists connive to lump all dairy Products together as bad, when clearly such a case could only be made For a few select components, which can easily be removed, leaving Some of the most positive natural foods in existence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 There is sugar in all those things dairy and now when I cheat on saw a swig of half and half I can taste the sweet! samadamfamily <samadamfamily@...> wrote: i was wondering why cheese isn't allowed on this diet? it probably has to do with molds but what about raw cream? we can't tolerate these things yet but i'm hoping that after some healing we'll be able to add these things in. can people that have yeast issues have dairy again once the yeast is under control? thanks sam --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Have you read Bee's files and articles???? Perhaps you could go to www.healingnaturallybybee.com and type in " dairy " or " cream " in the search box?? I would recommend starting with this one... http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php Doug > > i was wondering why cheese isn't allowed on this diet? it probably has to do with molds but > what about raw cream? we can't tolerate these things yet but i'm hoping that after some > healing we'll be able to add these things in. can people that have yeast issues have dairy > again once the yeast is under control? > thanks > sam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Thank you Doug I have read that but it doesn't explain why. I know cheese is a mold but I'm wondering if its ok later after some healing has taken place. I'm just wondering what's after the diet or does one have to eat this way forever? Thanks Sam > > > > i was wondering why cheese isn't allowed on this diet? it probably > has to do with molds but > > what about raw cream? we can't tolerate these things yet but i'm > hoping that after some > > healing we'll be able to add these things in. can people that have > yeast issues have dairy > > again once the yeast is under control? > > thanks > > sam > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 > Thank you Doug I have read that but it doesn't explain why. I know cheese is a mold but I'm wondering if its ok later after some healing has taken place. I'm just wondering what's after the diet or does one have to eat this way forever? > Thanks > Sam Hi Sam, I can't answer about eating dairy after the diet, but I'm assuming it would be okay once in awhile. However, if you want to know why we should not eat dairy while getting rid of candida, you can type 'lactose' into the search box for messages on this list. That should explain it for you. ~Cathe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 The milk sugar (lactose) feeds the yeast. I makes sense to me because I was getting raw keffir and cheese from a Amish farmer and I felt like poo when I ate it. It may be easier for you to just focus on getting better right now and then add foods in to see what you can tolerate. I am trying to not even think about all the things I love and can't have right now. I have been fortunate enough to feel immediately better on the diet, so that is great motivation. (: --- Cathe Schmidt <cathe616@...> wrote: > > Thank you Doug I have read that but it doesn't > explain why. I know > cheese is a mold but I'm wondering if its ok later > after some healing > has taken place. I'm just wondering what's after the > diet or does one > have to eat this way forever? > > Thanks > > Sam > > > Hi Sam, > > I can't answer about eating dairy after the diet, > but I'm assuming it > would be okay once in awhile. However, if you want > to know why we > should not eat dairy while getting rid of candida, > you can > type 'lactose' into the search box for messages on > this list. That > should explain it for you. > > ~Cathe > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals./tc/blockbuster/text5.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Yes.... Bee has posted on here that she eats hard cheeses, and would drink raw milk and stuff if she could get it, I believe. After the diet, it is okay to eat such things in moderation... if they are high quality, and not " velveeta processed cheese food " or something. Personally, I plan on eating sensibly after the diet... but not like I am now for sure. After my immune system is healthy, I'd like to think I would continue to eat these grassfed meats most of the time, but I wouldn't fret eating the other kind either. I hope to find a raw milk source. I'll probably eat a lot of the Amish home-made cheese that they sell a lot of at my produce stand during the winter. I will eat home-made yogurt from raw milk, as well as continuing to eat home-made sauerkraut. I'll continue the new habit of a lot of bone-broth/homemade soups. I'll continue to eat celtic salt, and plenty of coconut oil (although probably not as much). But I will eat some processed stuff too, in moderation. Desserts on special occasions, but not regularly. Little sugar. Coffee as a rare treat. And for celebrations, I'll eat what everyone else is eating, even if it makes me a little sick. Ah....... looking forward to when the next 3 years are over with. Doug > > > > > > i was wondering why cheese isn't allowed on this diet? it probably > > has to do with molds but > > > what about raw cream? we can't tolerate these things yet but i'm > > hoping that after some > > > healing we'll be able to add these things in. can people that have > > yeast issues have dairy > > > again once the yeast is under control? > > > thanks > > > sam > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Immediately better???? IMMEDIATELY BETTER??????????? !!!!!!!!! Doug > I have been fortunate enough to feel immediately > better on the diet, so that is great motivation. (: > --- Cathe Schmidt <cathe616@...> wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Yeah, I thought I was hot shit until the toothache, all over body aches, knot under my jaw, lungs feeling sore, ect..... But honestly besides these detox (illness retracing) stuff, I feel supremely better with low carbs and no sugar. --- Doug <organizer777@...> wrote: > Immediately better???? IMMEDIATELY > BETTER??????????? !!!!!!!!! > > > > Doug > > > > I have been fortunate enough to feel immediately > > better on the diet, so that is great motivation. > (: > > --- Cathe Schmidt <cathe616@...> wrote: > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals./tc/blockbuster/text5.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 not sure of why everyone on some level would not feel immediately better on this diet, even if they are experience some die off reaction at least they know they are moving towards health. I also know that I feel immediately less better when I go off of the diet. What does my son do yesterday but buy a lemon meriange pie and then after he eats 1/4 of it, he leaves it out for me to walk by 5 times and the 5th was the charm and of course I washed it down with almost a whole 1/2 gallon of milk, so I am feeling immediately un better. Bob Doug <organizer777@...> wrote: Immediately better???? IMMEDIATELY BETTER??????????? !!!!!!!!! Doug > I have been fortunate enough to feel immediately > better on the diet, so that is great motivation. (: > --- Cathe Schmidt <cathe616@...> wrote: --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 I just had a bad dairy experience. I hit my first brick wall, couldn't help myself, and cheated, first time for 3 plus mos. of program. I never had a problem with any dairy before, but after 1 tablespoon of cream a day over 2 days, I got a 4 day headache, and now I feel awful, like really bad die-off. Is this normal, 5 days of being sick for 2 little spoons of cream? And does anyone know, did I breed a bunch of yeast, and now my antifungals are on overtime and I'm having die-off? Thanks. Joanna > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Doug, may I ask why you said 3 years? How do you know it will take that period of time? . M oz > > > > > > > > i was wondering why cheese isn't allowed on this diet? it > probably > > > has to do with molds but > > > > what about raw cream? we can't tolerate these things yet but > i'm > > > hoping that after some > > > > healing we'll be able to add these things in. can people that > have > > > yeast issues have dairy > > > > again once the yeast is under control? > > > > thanks > > > > sam > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Because as Bee writes in her articles, and often on here, it takes one month on the diet for every year you've had Candida. In my case, I believe it was before I was born. I'm 40 and have been on the diet for 4 months... so 3 years 2 months to go! > > Doug, may I ask why you said 3 years? How do you know it will take > that period of time? > > . M > oz > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 > > i was wondering why cheese isn't allowed on this diet? it probably has to do with molds but > what about raw cream? we can't tolerate these things yet but i'm hoping that after some > healing we'll be able to add these things in. can people that have yeast issues have dairy > again once the yeast is under control? ==>Hi Sam. It isn't because of molds in cheese; it's because of the lactose (sugar) in all dairy other than butter. After your candida is cured you can have dairy, but some people will still have difficulty digesting lactose - I do. So it is best to get dairy that is the highest in butterfat content which helps the body digest lactose. I can have 10% cream but not regular milk. I also buy the highest butterfat content cheese I can find. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 > > Thank you Doug I have read that but it doesn't explain why. I know cheese is a mold but I'm wondering if its ok later after some healing has taken place. I'm just wondering what's after the diet or does one have to eat this way forever? ==>Cheese is not a mold. No, you do not have to eat this way forever. But in future you need to keep your immune system normal with proper nutrients. I follow the basic principles of this program and eat the same ratios even 20 years after curing my candida. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 > > I just had a bad dairy experience. I hit my first brick wall, > couldn't help myself, and cheated, first time for 3 plus mos. of > program. I never had a problem with any dairy before, but after 1 > tablespoon of cream a day over 2 days, I got a 4 day headache, and now > I feel awful, like really bad die-off. Is this normal, 5 days of being > sick for 2 little spoons of cream? And does anyone know, did I breed a > bunch of yeast, and now my antifungals are on overtime and I'm having > die-off? Thanks. ==>Hi Joanna, yes some people can have such a bad reaction, and they can last for a few days. I almost passed out and was very sick from licking the knife I used to make my daughter's peanut butter sandwich when I had candida. Are you also stressed, since that can also lower your immune system. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 > > not sure of why everyone on some level would not feel immediately better on this diet, even if they are experience some die off reaction at least they know they are moving towards health. I also know that I feel immediately less better when I go off of the diet. What does my son do yesterday but buy a lemon meriange pie and then after he eats 1/4 of it, he leaves it out for me to walk by 5 times and the 5th was the charm and of course I washed it down with almost a whole 1/2 gallon of milk, so I am feeling immediately un better. ==>Hi Bob. I like your expression " un better! " After 4 years owning this group I find that people who " actually " follow the program do have immediate results. Those that do not are not following the program. As my friend, an Orthomolecular Physician, wrote on a group we both belong to, " Bee's program would cure anyone! " The best, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 I am wondering if coming 'off' the diet is going to be as painful as getting on the diet. Does anybody have experience with this? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 > > I am wondering if coming 'off' the diet is going to be as painful as > getting on the diet. Does anybody have experience with this? ==>Hi . I had a lot of experience with gradually adding foods to my diet when I had candida over 20 years ago. My taste buds changed which helps a lot, and I became repulsed by some foods. My thinking and emotions towards food changed too, so I seek out " good foods " which is closer to following " good instincts, " rather than foods that feed candida. My cravings changed too, so I have craving for red meats or certain veggies rather than sugars and other bad foods. The best, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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