Re: Re: Future Explant

[Guest guest]

Hi Ladies,

The fact will soon come to light in this year that the highly-touted

" textured " implants have an 'industrial grade'; non sterile; foam (cannot

remember the exact name) used for the texture of the implant. This foam is

not suitable to be placed in the human body, and this fact was not disclosed

by Mentor or McGhan to the FDA when they presented their " studies " to the

FDA in March, 2000!

Furthermore, the FDA committee members didn't bother to question these

'textured implants'! They just sat there like the paid-off D**b A**es, they

were, soaking up all the egregious lies of the manufacturers, and ignoring

those of us who gave comments -- as they were told to do!!!

Sincerely,

MM / NSIF

Martha Murdock, Director

National Silicone Implant Foundation

Dallas, Texas Headquarters

----- Original Message -----

From: <carina063@...>

< >

Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 2:09 PM

Subject: Re: Future Explant

> ,

> Textured implants adhere to your tissue, so they are more dificult to

> remove. i do not know why Dr's use these things since they are really

> in my opinion bad. My explant took along time and involved scraping

> the scar tissue and implant that was imbedded in my muscle and

> against my ribcage. I don't want to scare you, but I am warning you

> it is not an easy surgery to get them out. Dr feng took out mine and

> she really had to work hard to get them out cause I had lots of scar

> tissue, inflammation and the implants were just stuck in there. Make

> sure you go to a great surgeon, cause I think some of them would

> rather leave the scar tissue as it is easier on them, so be careful.

> I would think you could sue that PS over the fact he didn't use the

> ones you chose.

> Good luck to you

>

>

>

>

>

> In @y..., imskyy@e... wrote:

> > Hi Everyone,

> >

> > I found out a week ago, when I requested my medical records, that I

> have textured implants, not smooth. Apparently, my PS switched the

> implants in OR because he didn't like

> > the smooth ones I chose. For 6 years I thought I had smooth! Boy,

> that really ticks me off! I have a scheduled explant in August and

> this will probably complicate things a bit.

> > Does anyone know exactly how this will effect things? Now, I feel

> even more scared about the surgery. Any advice or information to

> prepare me would be appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

here to Carina......DOn't forget, I had the saline smooth, and I am much sicker than you..(unable to work, lately pretty much bed ridden,), SO DON'T make your self nuts thinking if you had different ones, you would have not been sick........to me, they are all made out of the same type of junk......Please be well...I hope you are getting better..think positive...I am also looking at an undifferential connective tissue diesease diagnosis to this point also, which scares me to death thinking is this going to go into lupus or some other dreaded crap, or it wil keep me disabled isolated from any social life, for the rest of my life......Each day is a struggle and challange for all of us..hang in there, you are fighting this so well, and have the support of a wonderful man..II have faith that you will get better with time..keep in touch girl........xoxooxoxo teresa

[Guest guest]

,

How are things looking for you now regarding your explant? Are you happy

with the PS you've chosen? And how are you feeling about it now? Let us

know! I know this is tough..

Patty

> In @y..., imskyy@e... wrote:

> > Hi Everyone,

> >

> > I found out a week ago, when I requested my medical records, that I

> have textured implants, not smooth. Apparently, my PS switched the

> implants in OR because he didn't like

> > the smooth ones I chose. For 6 years I thought I had smooth! Boy,

> that really ticks me off! I have a scheduled explant in August and

> this will probably complicate things a bit.

> > Does anyone know exactly how this will effect things? Now, I feel

> even more scared about the surgery. Any advice or information to

> prepare me would be appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

[Guest guest]

,

You're taking the right steps to get your life back....so don't fear the future. We have our good days, and our bad days, and that may go on for awhile, but in time, I think we can help our bodies get rid of this stuff and get back on track.

Hope is the light we can cling to...and I have hope for all of us. I never had a diagnosis of anything, but did have the elevated rheumatoid factor, and it has come down, so the healing is continuing. I am sure yours will, too, give it lots of time.

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: MissBoop0827@...

Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 6:11 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Future Explant

here to Carina......DOn't forget, I had the saline smooth, and I am much sicker than you..(unable to work, lately pretty much bed ridden,), SO DON'T make your self nuts thinking if you had different ones, you would have not been sick........to me, they are all made out of the same type of junk......Please be well...I hope you are getting better..think positive...I am also looking at an undifferential connective tissue diesease diagnosis to this point also, which scares me to death thinking is this going to go into lupus or some other dreaded crap, or it wil keep me disabled isolated from any social life, for the rest of my life......Each day is a struggle and challange for all of us..hang in there, you are fighting this so well, and have the support of a wonderful man..II have faith that you will get better with time..keep in touch girl........xoxooxoxo teresa

[Guest guest]

patty..thank you again for your pep talks, you truly are a very nice, kind hearted person, to share your time with all of us ill women...and I thank you very much, from the bottom of my heart..I am just not having too many good days(any good days) lately, and do not see much improvement(and am still-losing hair-going bald soon?), and my aches and pains are changing for the worse.and seems like my muscles have wasted away(used to bodybuild),so the body image is just as hard as the illness.I am still detoxing, and hoping all goes well, but at the same time, I am preparing myself for the worst....the hardest part of this mess is the "self blame", of that this is all my fault......I have ruined my bueatiful life, as i never took life for granted, and was always an avid prayer, everynite before i went to sleep, thanking god for my health, and my strong body and spirit....it is soo hard to let go of the past, and all of the "would ifs"" that go through one's mind, when they have too much time on their hands alone, and cannot do anything but curl up in bed and stare at the walls sometimes, because that is all I am capable of doing...I must learn to let go of the self blame, as I was always so hard on myself.....I cannot blame anyone else, because in the end it was my final dissision to get implants, and went against my "bad feelings about them". When I was so bueatiful inside and out, and did not realize that till now....(low self esteem)...as now my esteem is lower than ever...and my breast are ruined and look horrible for life(I know that is so the least of the problem,but it can certainly play mind games with your head)....I have aged 10 years...and my spirit 100.....I am fighting all I can.(but how much fight can one have in them after a while)..just hoping I don't have some underlying terrible disease....I am almost starting to feel arthritic these days.....excpecially in my legs...I am scared.....would if one day I wind up in a wheelchair, because of my dumb mistake! I know some women are worse than me...but i mean this is bad.....I have LOST everything in my life that i worked for,my home, job, savings, health, some so called"friends"..as i had to move back home , and don't know too many people here, so I am alone most of the time..I have more friends in different states(really only 2 friends here..we talk on the phone, but i never see them much), and in this condition, how does one make contact or a social life, when most days I cannot walk down the block? Oh god..life has been a rough journey for me other than this.....but i do not want to get into that, it is another long saga.....NO i do not feel bad for myself, nor do i want anyone else to.....I just really needed to vent right now , and wonder if anyone is going through the same."I feel like I am living death" right now...andd cannot wait to start living again, and this time, do everything right..I have almost died twice in my life, and survived, and never really thought about it......just kinda got up, survived, and went on..but this is so different...when i thought i was going to die, i panicked, but knew i would be safe with god, and was not half as scared as going through this...living everyday in pain, agony and lonliness(as it makes me worse when people say, it could be worse, you could be dead)...what is worse..living isolated sick , suffering lonely for the rest of your life, or being with god, living in internal peace...I am so sick of peoples dumb ass comments.....Anyway thank you for the vent.....that is all I gotta say about that......xoxoxoo teresa.....May better days of health and happiness be on it's way for everyone!!!!!

[Guest guest]

Hang tough, girl. Two years ago I was so sick, I felt every day that I was going to die. Explant of salines this past September--had silicone in l978---replaced with saline due to silicone rupture.

I think the hardest part of this for me was trying to get over the self-blame. I asked God to forgive me for doing something so terrible to my body but it took me over a year to forgive myself. One of the ladies at one of the meetings I went to said---We did nothing wrong! There was nothing wrong with us wanting to improve ourselves. We had every right to believe that this was safe. We are all taught to trust in the medical profession so how could we know of the danger? We assumed that the medical profession knew what it was doing and could not possibly knowingly cause harm to us women.

The anger part of this still has me in a tight grip. I can't seem to get past being horribly angry. Every time I read a new letter like yours, I am angry all over again.

I think that's what is keeping me going. I know anger is not a healthy emotion to carry around but it's gonna take me a long time to get past this.

In March of this year I decided the only one that could help me is ME!! I started walking every morning and got up to 3.5 miles. I walk and vent! Or walk and talk to God. I found it helps me a lot. When I get up in the morning, everything I have hurts.

Feels like my spine shrinks--back and joints hurt-everywhere. I have to really talk myself into getting moving. The first of this month we had a new Lady of America Fitness Center open here and I have started going there--trying for 5 days a week. I feel LOTS better when I go. They started me on a beginners program with the machines and some crunches- and I still do my three miles on the treadmill. It's not easy to do--some days I don't feel like going but I have found that if I push myself I can still do it. It makes me feel good about myself and it helps with the all over pain.

Slowly I'm trying to reduce my medications--trying to get off Prozac. I would like to be responsible for myself without taking prescription drugs.

Taking a lot of vitamins and supplements.

I also have some books that I find really helpful. One is "The Art of Everyday Ecstasy" by Margot Anand and the one I find really helpfull now is "Until Today" by Iyanla Vanzant.

Here's a message from "Until Today" --------------

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I am willing to acknowledge......it may be difficult to pick through my experiences to find the things that will nourish me.

When you sit down at life's table, you don't know what the chef will serve you. It is quite possible that life will serve you filet mignon on a silver platter with all the trimmings. Or life may serve you a hearty chicken soup, with lots of veggies, in a china bowl. The china bowl might be chipped, and it could be sitting on a plate it does not match. Life could serve you burned roast chicken with half-raw potatoes on fine china tha sits on an exquisite linen tablecloth. You might be served all fattening foods or low-fat treats. The point is, no matter what you are served in life, or how it is served to you, it is up to you to find the noursihment.

Your experiences in life are food for your soul. They make up the meat and potatoes of your character. Some experiences are quite tasty and good.

Others could lead you to believe you are starving! If you insist you should have been served steak when you've been served chicken, you could miss the fact that it was served on fine china.

Don't get caught up in what life has served you. There is a chef in the kitchen of your heart who knows exactly the knid of diet you need to grow strong and remain healthy. Don't get stuck on how you were served. Ask the chef how to eatvit, how to digest it, and how best to make use of what you were served. Don't try to figure out why you got what you got. Be grateful that you got something. If you got it, you can use it, just ask the chef how.

Until today, you may have been more concerned with why you have had certain experiences than you were with how they have nurtured and nourished you.

Just for today, remind yourself, "He has prepared the table before me" He must know what I need.

Today I am devoted to discovering the nourishment in all of my life's experiences!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Be good to yourself and take your time---------the road to recovery from this is not a short one. Hugs, Phyllis:-) ----Message #897

[Guest guest]

Hi Phyllis,

This was a wonderful letter. Thank you so much for taking the time to share this. And you are right on about everything....!

Keep up the good work! I am so glad to hear that you are walking and working out the anger. Remember, we don't have to be angry--truth will always win out in the end. We may not see it in our lifetimes, but put it in the hands of the One who is in control, He always wins, and indeed, has already won...that is my source of peace.

Hope to see you later today!

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: Filisann@...

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 7:26 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Future Explant

Hang tough, girl. Two years ago I was so sick, I felt every day that I was going to die. Explant of salines this past September--had silicone in l978---replaced with saline due to silicone rupture. I think the hardest part of this for me was trying to get over the self-blame. I asked God to forgive me for doing something so terrible to my body but it took me over a year to forgive myself. One of the ladies at one of the meetings I went to said---We did nothing wrong! There was nothing wrong with us wanting to improve ourselves. We had every right to believe that this was safe. We are all taught to trust in the medical profession so how could we know of the danger? We assumed that the medical profession knew what it was doing and could not possibly knowingly cause harm to us women. The anger part of this still has me in a tight grip. I can't seem to get past being horribly angry. Every time I read a new letter like yours, I am angry all over again. I think that's what is keeping me going. I know anger is not a healthy emotion to carry around but it's gonna take me a long time to get past this. In March of this year I decided the only one that could help me is ME!! I started walking every morning and got up to 3.5 miles. I walk and vent! Or walk and talk to God. I found it helps me a lot. When I get up in the morning, everything I have hurts. Feels like my spine shrinks--back and joints hurt-everywhere. I have to really talk myself into getting moving. The first of this month we had a new Lady of America Fitness Center open here and I have started going there--trying for 5 days a week. I feel LOTS better when I go. They started me on a beginners program with the machines and some crunches- and I still do my three miles on the treadmill. It's not easy to do--some days I don't feel like going but I have found that if I push myself I can still do it. It makes me feel good about myself and it helps with the all over pain. Slowly I'm trying to reduce my medications--trying to get off Prozac. I would like to be responsible for myself without taking prescription drugs. Taking a lot of vitamins and supplements. I also have some books that I find really helpful. One is "The Art of Everyday Ecstasy" by Margot Anand and the one I find really helpfull now is "Until Today" by Iyanla Vanzant. Here's a message from "Until Today" -------------- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I am willing to acknowledge......it may be difficult to pick through my experiences to find the things that will nourish me. When you sit down at life's table, you don't know what the chef will serve you. It is quite possible that life will serve you filet mignon on a silver platter with all the trimmings. Or life may serve you a hearty chicken soup, with lots of veggies, in a china bowl. The china bowl might be chipped, and it could be sitting on a plate it does not match. Life could serve you burned roast chicken with half-raw potatoes on fine china tha sits on an exquisite linen tablecloth. You might be served all fattening foods or low-fat treats. The point is, no matter what you are served in life, or how it is served to you, it is up to you to find the noursihment. Your experiences in life are food for your soul. They make up the meat and potatoes of your character. Some experiences are quite tasty and good. Others could lead you to believe you are starving! If you insist you should have been served steak when you've been served chicken, you could miss the fact that it was served on fine china. Don't get caught up in what life has served you. There is a chef in the kitchen of your heart who knows exactly the knid of diet you need to grow strong and remain healthy. Don't get stuck on how you were served. Ask the chef how to eatvit, how to digest it, and how best to make use of what you were served. Don't try to figure out why you got what you got. Be grateful that you got something. If you got it, you can use it, just ask the chef how. Until today, you may have been more concerned with why you have had certain experiences than you were with how they have nurtured and nourished you. Just for today, remind yourself, "He has prepared the table before me" He must know what I need. Today I am devoted to discovering the nourishment in all of my life's experiences!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Be good to yourself and take your time---------the road to recovery from this is not a short one. Hugs, Phyllis:-) ----Message #897