Re: Bonnie - AAAAAAAAGGGGHHH

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I too FELT GREAT when I was taking the DHEA for almost 2 months but

obviously if it made me SPOT, then I was making too much Estrogen. If

you've had a Hysterectomy you wouldn't be alerted would you? You would never

know until you did a Saliva Test.

The good thing about all of this is, it alerted me to go and have a Pap

Smear and it showed Cancer. So even though I miss not using the DHEA because

I felt younger, looked younger, slept better and had more energy, I can't

use it, unless I want to risk having the Cancer GROW.

Bonnie

_____

From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of Helen deHavilland

Sent: August 2, 2008 6:02 AM

candidiasis

Subject: Bonnie - AAAAAAAAGGGGHHH

Aaaaaaaaaggggghhhh - but DHEA really made me feel human again. What if I

have had a full hysterectomy - I'm taking prgesterone to offset the

estrogen. Thought it was too good to be true.

Helen

Re: BETH

For me it's the opposite.. no matter how much eating this way sucks, the

stuff I deal with when I go off plan are much worse. The weight gain,

fatigue, depression, etc. are way worse than having to eat this way for me.

Also I look on the bright side.. while I may have to be strict on quality,

at least I can eat as much as I want for the most part, and I LOVE

steak!Luv,Debby in San , CA147 pounds lost! 100% of health issues

reversed!Currently studying for Nutrition license and PhD in

PsychologyGroup: http://health. groups.. com/group/ curingcandida/

Website: http://www.naturall ythriving. com----- Original Message ---->

From: Helen deHavilland > > Hi Beth> For what its worth, in regard to the

deserts, you can use stevia instead of > sugar as sweetener and hence make a

desert with it, and there are a few recipes > around on the net using

stevia. But you are right about this diet. Life is > miserable on this sort

of diet, and I feel my whole

quality of life has gone > down the drain having to stick to it.> Helen

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do you still have cancer?

From: Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...>

Subject: RE: Bonnie - AAAAAAAAGGGGHHH

candidiasis

Received: Sunday, 3 August, 2008, 4:52 AM

I too FELT GREAT when I was taking the DHEA for almost 2 months but

obviously if it made me SPOT, then I was making too much Estrogen. If

you've had a Hysterectomy you wouldn't be alerted would you? You would never

know until you did a Saliva Test.

The good thing about all of this is, it alerted me to go and have a Pap

Smear and it showed Cancer. So even though I miss not using the DHEA because

I felt younger, looked younger, slept better and had more energy, I can't

use it, unless I want to risk having the Cancer GROW.

Bonnie

_____

From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis] On

Behalf Of Helen deHavilland

Sent: August 2, 2008 6:02 AM

candidiasis

Subject: Bonnie - AAAAAAAAGGGGHHH

Aaaaaaaaaggggghhhh - but DHEA really made me feel human again. What if I

have had a full hysterectomy - I'm taking prgesterone to offset the

estrogen. Thought it was too good to be true.

Helen

Re: BETH

For me it's the opposite.. no matter how much eating this way sucks, the

stuff I deal with when I go off plan are much worse. The weight gain,

fatigue, depression, etc. are way worse than having to eat this way for me.

Also I look on the bright side.. while I may have to be strict on quality,

at least I can eat as much as I want for the most part, and I LOVE

steak!Luv,Debby in San , CA147 pounds lost! 100% of health issues

reversed!Currently studying for Nutrition license and PhD in

PsychologyGroup: http://health. groups.. com/group/ curingcandida/

Website: http://www.naturall ythriving. com----- Original Message ---->

From: Helen deHavilland > > Hi Beth> For what its worth, in regard to the

deserts, you can use stevia instead of > sugar as sweetener and hence make a

desert with it, and there are a few recipes > around on the net using

stevia. But you are right about this diet. Life is > miserable on this sort

of diet, and I feel my whole

quality of life has gone > down the drain having to stick to it.> Helen

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Yes, I will be starting radiation treatments in a few days.

Bonnie

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From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of Helen deHavilland

Sent: August 3, 2008 7:42 AM

candidiasis

Subject: RE: Bonnie - AAAAAAAAGGGGHHH

do you still have cancer?

From: Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@sympatic <mailto:bonnieview%40sympatico.ca>

o.ca>

Subject: RE: Bonnie - AAAAAAAAGGGGHHH

candidiasis@ <mailto:candidiasis%40>

Received: Sunday, 3 August, 2008, 4:52 AM

I too FELT GREAT when I was taking the DHEA for almost 2 months but

obviously if it made me SPOT, then I was making too much Estrogen. If

you've had a Hysterectomy you wouldn't be alerted would you? You would never

know until you did a Saliva Test.

The good thing about all of this is, it alerted me to go and have a Pap

Smear and it showed Cancer. So even though I miss not using the DHEA because

I felt younger, looked younger, slept better and had more energy, I can't

use it, unless I want to risk having the Cancer GROW.

Bonnie

_____

From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis]

On

Behalf Of Helen deHavilland

Sent: August 2, 2008 6:02 AM

candidiasis

Subject: Bonnie - AAAAAAAAGGGGHHH

Aaaaaaaaaggggghhhh - but DHEA really made me feel human again. What if I

have had a full hysterectomy - I'm taking prgesterone to offset the

estrogen. Thought it was too good to be true.

Helen

Re: BETH

For me it's the opposite.. no matter how much eating this way sucks, the

stuff I deal with when I go off plan are much worse. The weight gain,

fatigue, depression, etc. are way worse than having to eat this way for me.

Also I look on the bright side.. while I may have to be strict on quality,

at least I can eat as much as I want for the most part, and I LOVE

steak!Luv,Debby in San , CA147 pounds lost! 100% of health issues

reversed!Currently studying for Nutrition license and PhD in

PsychologyGroup: http://health. groups.. com/group/ curingcandida/

Website: http://www.naturall ythriving. com----- Original Message ---->

From: Helen deHavilland > > Hi Beth> For what its worth, in regard to the

deserts, you can use stevia instead of > sugar as sweetener and hence make a

desert with it, and there are a few recipes > around on the net using

stevia. But you are right about this diet. Life is > miserable on this sort

of diet, and I feel my whole

quality of life has gone > down the drain having to stick to it.> Helen

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Oh no Bonnie. I'm so sorry!!! I hope they get it all out.

Vicky

>

> Yes, I will be starting radiation treatments in a few days.

>

>

>

> Bonnie

>

>

[Guest guest]

Please look at this. It can be used with conventional treatment.

 

www.cancertutor.com/Cancer/GrapeCure.html -

 

Bonnie - would you let me send you something through the post. Promise I wont

stalk you - I live in Soth Australia, have never been out of the country, and

dont comtemplate doing so in the near or far future. A bit difficult to explain

on a public post

 

Helen

Law student at Adelaide University (student no. 1021848)

Mum to 14 year old Asher and 10 year old Zachary

From: Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@ sympatic <mailto:bonnieview% 40sympatico. ca>

o.ca>

Subject: RE: Bonnie - AAAAAAAAGGGGHHH

candidiasis@ <mailto:candidiasis %40groups. com> groups. com

Received: Sunday, 3 August, 2008, 4:52 AM

I too FELT GREAT when I was taking the DHEA for almost 2 months but

obviously if it made me SPOT, then I was making too much Estrogen. If

you've had a Hysterectomy you wouldn't be alerted would you? You would never

know until you did a Saliva Test.

The good thing about all of this is, it alerted me to go and have a Pap

Smear and it showed Cancer. So even though I miss not using the DHEA because

I felt younger, looked younger, slept better and had more energy, I can't

use it, unless I want to risk having the Cancer GROW.

Bonnie

_____

From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ]

On

Behalf Of Helen deHavilland

Sent: August 2, 2008 6:02 AM

candidiasis

Subject: Bonnie - AAAAAAAAGGGGHHH

Aaaaaaaaaggggghhhh - but DHEA really made me feel human again. What if I

have had a full hysterectomy - I'm taking prgesterone to offset the

estrogen. Thought it was too good to be true.

Helen

Re: BETH

For me it's the opposite.. no matter how much eating this way sucks, the

stuff I deal with when I go off plan are much worse. The weight gain,

fatigue, depression, etc. are way worse than having to eat this way for me.

Also I look on the bright side.. while I may have to be strict on quality,

at least I can eat as much as I want for the most part, and I LOVE

steak!Luv,Debby in San , CA147 pounds lost! 100% of health issues

reversed!Currently studying for Nutrition license and PhD in

PsychologyGroup: http://health. groups.. com/group/ curingcandida/

Website: http://www.naturall ythriving. com----- Original Message ---->

From: Helen deHavilland > > Hi Beth> For what its worth, in regard to the

deserts, you can use stevia instead of > sugar as sweetener and hence make a

desert with it, and there are a few recipes > around on the net using

stevia. But you are right about this diet. Life is > miserable on this sort

of diet, and I feel my whole

quality of life has gone > down the drain having to stick to it.> Helen

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Bonnie, I've seen menopausal women go back to full reliable periods

every month after a few months of an anti-aging protocol. They lost

the hot flashes and all...If DHEA made you spot, it may be that you

were becoming more youthful too but you're so messed up I couldn't

be sure. For example, cancer can shrink with proper treatment

including anti-aging; cancerous cells can die outright and tumours

can go necrotic, also causing spotting.

Considering vaginal ozone insufflation for the cancer? Check out the

oxyplus and ozonetherapy groups run by ozone guru Dr. Saul Pressman.

Duncan

>

> I too FELT GREAT when I was taking the DHEA for almost 2 months but

> obviously if it made me SPOT, then I was making too much Estrogen.

If

> you've had a Hysterectomy you wouldn't be alerted would you? You

would never

> know until you did a Saliva Test.

>

>

>

> The good thing about all of this is, it alerted me to go and have a

Pap

> Smear and it showed Cancer. So even though I miss not using the

DHEA because

> I felt younger, looked younger, slept better and had more energy, I

can't

> use it, unless I want to risk having the Cancer GROW.

>

>

>

> Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Bonnie, while estrogen may make one spot, estradiols should not

because they are already broken down. I'm aware that estradiol may

promote certain cancers, but it is after all a natural metabolic

product of both testosterone and estrogen.

So, what was your estradiol level while using DHEA, how did your

abnormally high reading correlate to your DHEA use, and what is your

estradiol level now, since you've lowered your DHEA dose? I ask

because when you're dealing with millionths of a gram, guessing is

not adequate, and an accurate answer from you today may be of value

to a number of ladies out there.

I sympathize with your friend's early demise, but have to point out

that medicine has found no cure for cancer either. Good luck with

your radiation. I would suggest a strong antioxidant component in

order to reduce the free radical damage (radiation sickness) from the

treatment; the glutathione handbook from Jimmy Gutman M.D. shows the

medical research for this point.

Duncan

>

> Duncan:

>

>

>

> Thanks for your suggestions. The DHEA made me spot, because it was

> Metabolizing into Estradiol NOT because I was becoming younger at

age 65 and

> I sure don't want to have periods at this late age.

>

>

>

> OZONE THERAPY? I don't even know where I could find this in my

area. Don't

> know where Dr. Pressman is located and a bit late now, since it was

> discovered 6 months ago. I'm opting for Radiation.

>

>

>

> I have a friend with breast cancer who decided to go NATURAL and

she is

> Terminal now because IT DIDN'T WORK FOR HER.

>

>

>

> Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Bonnie, you mentioned you had a haemorrhagic e.coli infection a

couple of weeks ago -- has your endocrinologist ruled out this e.

coli as a vaginal infection? E.coli is the major player in

bladder/kidney/UTI as well... ...and, it produced blood (haemorrhage).

Duncan

> >

> > Duncan:

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks for your suggestions. The DHEA made me spot, because it was

> > Metabolizing into Estradiol NOT because I was becoming younger at

> age 65 and

> > I sure don't want to have periods at this late age.

> >

> >

> >

> > OZONE THERAPY? I don't even know where I could find this in my

> area. Don't

> > know where Dr. Pressman is located and a bit late now, since it

was

> > discovered 6 months ago. I'm opting for Radiation.

> >

> >

> >

> > I have a friend with breast cancer who decided to go NATURAL and

> she is

> > Terminal now because IT DIDN'T WORK FOR HER.

> >

> >

> >

> > Bonnie

>

[Guest guest]

Bonnie, thank you for confirming that no estradiol tests were done.

Unlike you, I can't draw a conclusion based on a lack of concrete

data so I'll move on...

The research shows antioxidant therapy after radiation stops

radiation sickness, which continues sometimes for months after the

radiation program. This arises from radiation's formation of the most

potent oxidizer, that being the hydroxyl ion, and it does not stop

unless it is quenched. The main antioxidant is glutathione, so don't

forget the cystine supplement, at least after your program is done.

Glutathione is useful before a radiation or chemo program too; the

research I've been pointing out for years on this is referenced in

Dr. Jimmy Gutman's book " Glutathione: Your Most Powerful Healing

Agent " . It shows that unlike other antioxidants, glutathione increase

increases glutathione in normal cells but reduces the glutathione

concentration in cancer cells, which makes them weaker and more

subject to being treated. Here follows a snip from

http://www.glutathionecancertreatment.com/ that has been condensed

from this book:

</begin snip>

Traditional cancer treatments such as chemo or

radiation therapy work better

In the same way that the lowering of glutathione in the cancer cells

make them more susceptible to damage, including chemotherapy and

radiotherapy, elevated glutathione levels in healthy cells make them

more resistant to the treatment. This leads to fewer side effects,

such as severe weight loss, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, hair loss and

even leukopenia (loss of white blood cells).

Patients with higher intracellular glutathione (GSH) levels

experience far fewer chemotherapeutic side effects. In addition,

cells with higher levels of GSH carry more protection against

radiation damage, thereby lessening the side effects of radiotherapy.

Radio therapists who have investigated the role of GSH in protecting

cells have been able to correlate higher pretreatment glutathione

levels with a lower amount of radiation burns suffered afterwards.

Pre-treatment or simultaneous treatment with products to raise GSH

consistently demonstrate a better tolerance to therapy.

When considering your best course of action, remember your body has

to manufacture its own Glutathione. You cannot take a Glutathione

pill and expect it to do you any good. Your body cannot absorb

Glutathione in that manner. The only way to increase your Glutathione

levels is to ingest the precursors or building blocks.

</end snip>

Immunocal has a method of use PATENT in cancer treatment; the others

may not but the story is the same.

Hope this helps...

Duncan

> >

> > Duncan:

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks for your suggestions. The DHEA made me spot, because it was

> > Metabolizing into Estradiol NOT because I was becoming younger at

> age 65 and

> > I sure don't want to have periods at this late age.

> >

> >

> >

> > OZONE THERAPY? I don't even know where I could find this in my

> area. Don't

> > know where Dr. Pressman is located and a bit late now, since it

was

> > discovered 6 months ago. I'm opting for Radiation.

> >

> >

> >

> > I have a friend with breast cancer who decided to go NATURAL and

> she is

> > Terminal now because IT DIDN'T WORK FOR HER.

> >

> >

> >

> > Bonnie

>

>

>

>

>

>

>