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Gail,

Aren't these matzos made of wheat?

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On 4/24/07, Gail <gmgblues@...> wrote:

> I've been eating the large, thin, unsalted matzos for quite some

> time - even when I was much sicker. As long as I only ate one a day,

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Yes, they're made with unbleached wheat flour and water.

Gail

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> > I've been eating the large, thin, unsalted matzos for quite some

> > time - even when I was much sicker. As long as I only ate one a

day,

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Hi Gail,

If i have amemory, and that would be amazing, i think

i remember you were always able toeat come type of

bread or cracker without a reaction.

I ask because i used to have a strong reaction from

bready type of foods, but just recently added brwon

rice bread without a reaction.

I always wonder what that means. I spoke with Debby

from the other group who advised me to stick to the

diet strictly. I value her opinion with diet and

foods as i believe that she is knowledgeable and open

minded with foods. Her idea is that the diet whether

it be candida or just nutrition, the diet is good

advice.

what do you think? I know you have been at it for a

while too.

thanks

sue

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Hi Sue, the only bread/cracker type that I've ever been able to eat

is the Matzos. When I was much sicker I had to be really careful not

to eat more than one in a day. I'm sure even that one wasn't helping

things LOL but I wasn't getting reactions that I noticed. I remember

eating more than one a couple of times and then I did get a

reaction. I have tried making my own flat breads with various yeast-

free & gluten-free flours and I can't eat any of them without

reactions. Maybe I'll try some of that brown rice flour bread and see

what happens :)

I do think it is important to be pretty strict in the beginning. Once

you've healed somewhat you can try to start introducing other foods.

I've introduced a few things but not a lot and probably will never

eat like I used to before Candida. I had been eating small amts of

chocolate here and there, but now that I had a recent bout of oral

thrush again, I've quit that altogether. Now I make my own chocolate

candy sweetened with zylitol. If I do get back to where I can eat

bread I won't be eating it every day like I used to. Probably just

an occasional thing - same with lots of other foods.

While I'm sure the " other " group is well-intentioned I always thought

they went a bit overboard. You can be on an healthy diet without

going to such extremes. And am not so sure some of the things

advocated really are healthy. I will probably continue to eat low

carb, with lots of veggies, meat and good fats for the rest of my

life. I just might not have to be as strict with it in the future as

I am now. Just like I'm not quite as strict now as I was in the

beginning. It'll be a year for me in June.

Are you all done with your chemo and radiation now? Hope it's all

going well.

Gail

>

> Hi Gail,

>

> If i have amemory, and that would be amazing, i think

> i remember you were always able toeat come type of

> bread or cracker without a reaction.

>

> I ask because i used to have a strong reaction from

> bready type of foods, but just recently added brwon

> rice bread without a reaction.

>

> I always wonder what that means. I spoke with Debby

> from the other group who advised me to stick to the

> diet strictly. I value her opinion with diet and

> foods as i believe that she is knowledgeable and open

> minded with foods. Her idea is that the diet whether

> it be candida or just nutrition, the diet is good

> advice.

>

> what do you think? I know you have been at it for a

> while too.

>

> thanks

>

> sue

>

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Yeah, I can't eat the ice cream either. I tried and I just will have

to stay away from it forever I think. One of these days I'm going to

try to make a fake ice-cream, maybe out of homemade yogurt - if I

ever figure out how to make homemade yogurt LOL. It's probably easy

to make, but I've never done it. Guess I'll have to start

researching how.

Glad things are looking good for you.

Gail

>

> Hi gail,

>

> I have introduced foods slowly since ihave been on

> this diet for 2 years. I can have brown rice products

> without any problems. I also had ice cream one day

> but my tongue was a bit more whitish so i didnt go for

> that again. I also have strawberries without any

> problems. So slowly i introduce different things one

> at a time to see what the reaction is.

>

> Yes i finished chemo 2 weeks ago and will begin

> radiation soon. I feel better than i have in a long

> time. My scans and blood work are all good, so things

> are lookin up for me.

>

> I will stay in touch and thanks for the advice with

> the foods.

>

> sue

>

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I've been making homemade yogurt for the past year -- every 2 weeks.

The machine that I have is foolproof (simple directions)Yogourmet

Multi Yogurt Maker($48). The key is to let it " cook " 24 hours to

maximize digestability. It makes half gallon at a time and I eat it

twice a day mixed with whey, inulin & coconut oil and frozen papaya

or mango. You can use 3 to 4 tablespoons of plain yogurt as

a " starter " . It's a very easy habit to get into -- the container

just sits next to a plug for 24hours.

--Jeff

> >

> > Hi gail,

> >

> > I have introduced foods slowly since ihave been on

> > this diet for 2 years. I can have brown rice products

> > without any problems. I also had ice cream one day

> > but my tongue was a bit more whitish so i didnt go for

> > that again. I also have strawberries without any

> > problems. So slowly i introduce different things one

> > at a time to see what the reaction is.

> >

> > Yes i finished chemo 2 weeks ago and will begin

> > radiation soon. I feel better than i have in a long

> > time. My scans and blood work are all good, so things

> > are lookin up for me.

> >

> > I will stay in touch and thanks for the advice with

> > the foods.

> >

> > sue

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

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They have starter as well.

--JB

> > >

> > > Hi gail,

> > >

> > > I have introduced foods slowly since ihave been on

> > > this diet for 2 years. I can have brown rice products

> > > without any problems. I also had ice cream one day

> > > but my tongue was a bit more whitish so i didnt go for

> > > that again. I also have strawberries without any

> > > problems. So slowly i introduce different things one

> > > at a time to see what the reaction is.

> > >

> > > Yes i finished chemo 2 weeks ago and will begin

> > > radiation soon. I feel better than i have in a long

> > > time. My scans and blood work are all good, so things

> > > are lookin up for me.

> > >

> > > I will stay in touch and thanks for the advice with

> > > the foods.

> > >

> > > sue

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

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All the Tofu I've ever seen is made from soybeans. I don't want to

be eating anything made from soy. I've never had a problem with any

dairy products but I believe it's the sugars in them that effect me

now.

Gail

>

> In this country, we have a product which is Tofu ice cream. It has

no

> animal fats in it at all, only vegetable protein and fats. I've had

> some one day while cheating and didn't have a reaction to it at all.

>

> You may find it in a health shop, or perhaps in a Kosher shop as it

is

> very popular with Jews (those who are strict in the dietary sense

cannot

> eat meat and dairy in the same meal).

>

> Keen

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Jeff, thanks for the info. I'll have to put that yogurt maker on my

gift list for Mother's Day LOL. Is there a way to make it without a

machine?

Gail

>

> I've been making homemade yogurt for the past year -- every 2

weeks.

> The machine that I have is foolproof (simple directions)Yogourmet

> Multi Yogurt Maker($48). The key is to let it " cook " 24 hours to

> maximize digestability. It makes half gallon at a time and I eat

it

> twice a day mixed with whey, inulin & coconut oil and frozen papaya

> or mango. You can use 3 to 4 tablespoons of plain yogurt as

> a " starter " . It's a very easy habit to get into -- the container

> just sits next to a plug for 24hours.

> --Jeff

>

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Depending on how sensitive your oven is?? If you can keep it at 120

degrees it will work, but you should keep it going 24hours which may

not be the best thing to do. The good plain, premade yogurt now

costs close to $3-- Your cost for homemade is a little over a

dollar. Start putting $2 a week toward the machine. --JB

> >

> > I've been making homemade yogurt for the past year -- every 2

> weeks.

> > The machine that I have is foolproof (simple directions)Yogourmet

> > Multi Yogurt Maker($48). The key is to let it " cook " 24 hours to

> > maximize digestability. It makes half gallon at a time and I eat

> it

> > twice a day mixed with whey, inulin & coconut oil and frozen

papaya

> > or mango. You can use 3 to 4 tablespoons of plain yogurt as

> > a " starter " . It's a very easy habit to get into -- the container

> > just sits next to a plug for 24hours.

> > --Jeff

> >

>

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Funny thing that soy products should be available in a health shop.

Not a good place for an industrial adhesive with GRAS status. When

people ask me about soy I tell them to search soy warning keywords

online and decide whether they want to court thyroiditis, goiter and

cancer referred to in the research.

Thyroid is forced low by candida and dysbiosis as it is without using

foods that suppress it further (unsaturated oils such as soy, canola

and corn do it too)

Duncan

> >

> > Hi gail,

> >

> > I have introduced foods slowly since ihave been on

> > this diet for 2 years. I can have brown rice products

> > without any problems. I also had ice cream one day

> > but my tongue was a bit more whitish so i didnt go for

> > that again. I also have strawberries without any

> > problems. So slowly i introduce different things one

> > at a time to see what the reaction is.

> >

> > Yes i finished chemo 2 weeks ago and will begin

> > radiation soon. I feel better than i have in a long

> > time. My scans and blood work are all good, so things

> > are lookin up for me.

> >

> > I will stay in touch and thanks for the advice with

> > the foods.

> >

> > sue

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

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