Guest guest Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 This should give you a good idea of the diet http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu2.php Just check the links out and see. Bee has got it down! I have to give her the thumbs up on the diet side of it. She does not allow even marginal or risky things, so you will be doing it as good as it gets pretty much. To sum it up. Eat meat, chicken, liver, eggs, vegetables of all kinds (excluding potatoes, beets, carrots, corn due to their high natural sugar)and all the natural healthy fats - lard, extra virgin olive oil, extra virgin organic coconut oil, butter and even fat on meat is fine to consume. Anything else added to that is risky and best to leave out until you are certain you are on your way to healing. Adding things early on may slow that down or frustrate it. Grains and nuts is best avoided at first, just like fruit and honey and high carb vegetables and any dairy food aside from butter. Butter is fine to use liberally, it helps healing. I like Duncan's views along with Bee's diet. He encourages other things that Bee does not. Increasing glutathione in the body which is needed for detoxing. Selenium, undenatured whey, other things. So Bee and Duncan do differ on certain aspects and agree on others I see. I like many of their suggestions and you have to try and see what works for you. Bee suggests supplements vitamin C, B complex in the form of nutrional yeast and dessicated liver, calcium and magnesium in equal ratios, vitamin E (soy free), and alfalfa chlorrfyll supplement (nature's way for example). Cod liver oil for vitamin A and D. Proper ocean sea salt for trace minerals. > I've been reading others postings talking about THE diet. What > exactly is this diet. I'm sorry I forgot who responded to me before > saying what we could eat. Thank you and sorry again. Must be the > brain fog...lol. I've cut down on sugar and totally quit eating the > sweets that I craved so bad at night. I have replaced those with > yogart or Activia. Is there any other suggestions. Maybe I'm just not > getting it. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 I've got news for you about nutritional yeast. It feeds itself VERY nicely! I was doing much better for the first time in a year, then I started eating lots of nutritional yeast. I did not think this was causing me to go down until I quit using it. Then later I messed up eating apples. Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 steph what is nutritional yeast? sue ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Answers Food & Drink Q & A. http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545367 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Sue, to make it simple it is the vitamins taken from killed off yeast I think. It tastes exactly like yeast too. Lots of B vitamins in it I guess. To me it tasted very good and I was craving it so I ate lots of it. My BIG CLUE should have rang my bell when I was craving it and eating more and more of it. I have learned that if I have ZERO desire to eat something then it is safe. If I am hungry for something I can forget it. That is very frustrating emotionally over three years and pretty soon you get where you can't make it anymore. I HATE and DISPISE in every way, meat, eggs and vegitables so you can imagine the torment that is for me. Those three things GAG me literally. Not so bad for people who like meat and vegies. I can tolerate the vegies. OK but the meat and eggs is like eating poison for me. Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Duncan, are you able to discuss with us what if anything that you might know about radiating meats and also the virus sprays they are now putting on it and how we can avoid getting meat like that? I totally quit eating any chicken or turkey when they started doing that. I am plain scared to eat it and I HATE eating meat in the first place but I was forcing it down as an aid to getting rid of the candida. Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Thank you so much for this info.!!! Looks like I'm going to have to change things as I learn. I can't believe how long I've had this and to the degree...And now I know what to do about it. That in itself is gives me hope. Thanks Again! Lynette > > This should give you a good idea of the diet > http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu2.php Just check the > links out and see. > > Bee has got it down! I have to give her the thumbs up on the diet side > of it. She does not allow even marginal or risky things, so you will be > doing it as good as it gets pretty much. To sum it up. Eat meat, > chicken, liver, eggs, vegetables of all kinds (excluding potatoes, > beets, carrots, corn due to their high natural sugar)and all the > natural healthy fats - lard, extra virgin olive oil, extra virgin > organic coconut oil, butter and even fat on meat is fine to consume. > Anything else added to that is risky and best to leave out until you > are certain you are on your way to healing. Adding things early on may > slow that down or frustrate it. Grains and nuts is best avoided at > first, just like fruit and honey and high carb vegetables and any dairy > food aside from butter. Butter is fine to use liberally, it helps > healing. > > I like Duncan's views along with Bee's diet. He encourages other things > that Bee does not. Increasing glutathione in the body which is needed > for detoxing. Selenium, undenatured whey, other things. So Bee and > Duncan do differ on certain aspects and agree on others I see. I like > many of their suggestions and you have to try and see what works for > you. > > Bee suggests supplements vitamin C, B complex in the form of nutrional > yeast and dessicated liver, calcium and magnesium in equal ratios, > vitamin E (soy free), and alfalfa chlorrfyll supplement (nature's way > for example). Cod liver oil for vitamin A and D. Proper ocean sea > salt for trace minerals. > > > > > > I've been reading others postings talking about THE diet. What > > exactly is this diet. I'm sorry I forgot who responded to me before > > saying what we could eat. Thank you and sorry again. Must be the > > brain fog...lol. I've cut down on sugar and totally quit eating the > > sweets that I craved so bad at night. I have replaced those with > > yogart or Activia. Is there any other suggestions. Maybe I'm just > not > > getting it. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Thanx for the warning steph. Bee recommends it I see. Maybe some do ok on it, I'd not risk it in that case. She says not to use brewer's yeast I heard, but thinks nutritional yeast is fine. Yeah fruit is bad with me too. You gotta go with what works for you. Adam. > I've got news for you about nutritional yeast. It feeds itself VERY > nicely! I was doing much better for the first time in a year, then I > started eating lots of nutritional yeast. I did not think this was > causing me to go down until I quit using it. Then later I messed up > eating apples. > > Steph > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Your welcome :-) Hope it will help you. Adam. > Thank you so much for this info.!!! Looks like I'm going to have to > change things as I learn. I can't believe how long I've had this > and to the degree...And now I know what to do about it. That in > itself is gives me hope. Thanks Again! Lynette > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 according to Bee, its not good to eat with candida in the beginning. The only dairy allowed is butter. Thats it. Some might do ok. Guess it depends how bad the candida situation is. She advises against it temporarily anyway. > I forgot to ask about yougart. I eat the Activia and it helps keep me > kind of regular. Better than drugs anyway. Is it not good to eat > since it's dairy? Thanks for all the helpful info., Lynette > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Well Adam, I can tell you for absolutely posative sure that nutritional yeast will feed live yeast like wild fire. If it didn't I would be stilll gobbling it down LOL. Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Steph, nutritional yeast doesn't feed itself OR candida. We've busrted this candida myth. Both organisms are made of about the same cell wall material, and they don't break themselves down in their own waste. Duncan > > I've got news for you about nutritional yeast. It feeds itself VERY > nicely! I was doing much better for the first time in a year, then I > started eating lots of nutritional yeast. I did not think this was > causing me to go down until I quit using it. Then later I messed up > eating apples. > > Steph > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Steph, if you like to avoid meat you can use whey and eggs as your only protein source. No, I won't discuss what factories are doing to food. No time this week but I can say I don't buy that kind of food and you don't have to either. Duncan > > Duncan, are you able to discuss with us what if anything that you might > know about radiating meats and also the virus sprays they are now > putting on it and how we can avoid getting meat like that? I totally > quit eating any chicken or turkey when they started doing that. I am > plain scared to eat it and I HATE eating meat in the first place but I > was forcing it down as an aid to getting rid of the candida. > > Steph > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Thankyou so much Duncan, and ENOUGHT SAID about meat in your short reply LOL. The bad thing is, once I start my new program with my new Dr. he is not going to allow the whey for the first three or four months. Anything else you can think of that I can replace it with for that time? The health food store I visit does sell what they call dried protein chunks to replace meat. You use them in soup etc.. but it does NOT give the ingredients which I assume is mostly soy. I probably could tolerate the soy for that long but don't know what else is in it. Does not taste like it would feed the yeast as I have no desire for it 8:>)) Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Duncan, I read that all vitamin B feeds yeast. What about that? Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Duncan, I can tell you for absolutely posative SURE 100% that the nutritional yeast fed the candida. Absolutely without question. Something is wrong with that study because I had the misery to prove it. At first i thought I was getting even by eating lots of it and it tasted so good because i was obviously deficient in the B vitamins. It not only made me worse but knocked me on my back in bed for awhile until I starved myself better again. I hate to see people take this and then not get better when I know different from experience which indeed is the best teacher. If I don't know something for sure I will say so and seldom will I say I am absolutely correct about something when the experts disagree, but I am telling you in this case they are WRONG. Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 steph, You have such a comical way of explaining things and i find it lightheartening to read your posts. Thanks for the uplifting way of making me laugh sue ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ TV dinner still cooling? Check out " Tonight's Picks " on TV. http://tv./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 The dried protein chunks are probably TVP (textured vegetable protein), and TVP does contain MSG! I have learned that they add MSG to most of the foods I used to eat as a vegetarian for 15 years! ...I have a list of hidden sources of MSG, if you are interested I will pass it on. Audrey McCaffrey~ Wellness Coach 603-542-8868 audrey_m@... Re: Re: Diet??? Thankyou so much Duncan, and ENOUGHT SAID about meat in your short reply LOL. The bad thing is, once I start my new program with my new Dr. he is not going to allow the whey for the first three or four months. Anything else you can think of that I can replace it with for that time? The health food store I visit does sell what they call dried protein chunks to replace meat. You use them in soup etc.. but it does NOT give the ingredients which I assume is mostly soy. I probably could tolerate the soy for that long but don't know what else is in it. Does not taste like it would feed the yeast as I have no desire for it 8:>)) Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Lynette: I think the Activia (while delicious) is not good to eat because of the sugar and/or fructose in it. That just feeds the yeast. Bonnie Diet??? I forgot to ask about yougart. I eat the Activia and it helps keep me kind of regular. Better than drugs anyway. Is it not good to eat since it's dairy? Thanks for all the helpful info., Lynette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Sue, every source I have read, the Bible and health books all say that laughter is extremely healing. I get very little of that here at home so I always try to pass some on to someone else hoping it will boomarang back my way now and then and keep me alive a bit longer 8:>)) Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 lol, i wont be touching it then. I have this problem with my coconut oil. I cant stop eating it and its supposed to KILL yeast..what does that mean? I actually crave it. Probably cause it has a faint sweetish taste which maybe the yeast interprets as sugar coming this way. ;-) it must get a surprise when it finds out otherwise. Adam. > Well Adam, I can tell you for absolutely posative sure that nutritional > yeast will feed live yeast like wild fire. If it didn't I would be > stilll gobbling it down LOL. Steph > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Duncan why did steph react badly to it? and why did she improve after stopping? could it be that some of us with candida have an allergy to yeast and react to it? Adam. > > Steph, nutritional yeast doesn't feed itself OR candida. We've busrted > this candida myth. Both organisms are made of about the same cell wall > material, and they don't break themselves down in their own waste. > > Duncan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Steph, my take on it is there are b-vitamins in a lot of foods, and even more in yeast; however, even b-complex supplements are allowed because inducing a nutritional deficiency would not be good. Duncan > > Duncan, I read that all vitamin B feeds yeast. What about that? > Steph > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Steph, has your nutritional yeast been killed? Perhaps cooking has started breaking it down into components the yeast can use. I note that live brewers yeast is often used in anti-candida formulas and it does not aggravate it. Duncan > > Duncan, I can tell you for absolutely posative SURE 100% that the > nutritional yeast fed the candida. Absolutely without question. > Something is wrong with that study because I had the misery to prove it. > At first i thought I was getting even by eating lots of it and it tasted > so good because i was obviously deficient in the B vitamins. It not > only made me worse but knocked me on my back in bed for awhile until I > starved myself better again. I hate to see people take this and then > not get better when I know different from experience which indeed is the > best teacher. If I don't know something for sure I will say so and > seldom will I say I am absolutely correct about something when the > experts disagree, but I am telling you in this case they are WRONG. > > Steph > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 cystine capsules about 3,000-6,000 mg per day might increase cellular glutathione. N-acetylcysteine will increase glutathione in the liver but you need to take it about every 4 hours, and because it also produces a toxin, l-cysteine, it is not really a health food. Alpha- lipoic acid should recycle the oxidized glutathione you do induce, more quickly. Duncan > > Thankyou so much Duncan, and ENOUGHT SAID about meat in your short reply > LOL. The bad thing is, once I start my new program with my new Dr. > he is not going to allow the whey for the first three or four months. > Anything else you can think of that I can replace it with for that time? > The health food store I visit does sell what they call dried protein > chunks to replace meat. You use them in soup etc.. but it does NOT > give the ingredients which I assume is mostly soy. I probably could > tolerate the soy for that long but don't know what else is in it. Does > not taste like it would feed the yeast as I have no desire for it 8:>)) > Steph > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Yes Audrey, PLEASE do send us the list of MSG products as I try strenuously to avoid this. I have so many other critical problems that I find myself not paying attention to this problem lately and most of the time anymore, you just don't know if it is not on the label. It is too bad we are slowely being poisoned in this country all in the name of GREED. Like Dr. Shultz says " its all about the money " . Sometimes you would like to get a hold of the responsible culprits and bang their heads together until they pass out. Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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