Re: Inflammation of the Lungs

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--- Gail <gmgblues@...> wrote:

> I'm not sure if this is related to my Candida or

> not. After not

> feeling too well for a couple months with chest

> congestion and

> shortness of breath, I finally went to the Dr. who

> diagnosed me with

> a mild case of bronchitis. He prescribed an

> antibiotic that I didn't

> really want to take, but nothing else I tried was

> helping. Well, the

> antibiotic did nothing. I then tried some natural

> supplements and

> they didn't help either. Last week I was really,

> really sick and

> very short of breath. Went back to Dr. Tues and he

> said the fact

> that the antibiotic didn't work tells him it is an

> inflammation of

> the lung. So, reluctantly, I'm now using Advair. It

> is helping -

> congestion is finally breaking up and am coughing

> much less, though

> still pretty short of breath.

>

> Could this be something caused by the Candida? I am

> following the

> diet very strictly and am taking the whey, inulin &

> selenium daily

> (though for a while I tended to skip a day here and

> there). Plus I

> take a lot of other supplements.

>

> Any other natural alternatives to get this

> inflammation under control?

>

> Thanks.

> Gail

>

>

[Guest guest]

Gail,

Candida can affect the lungs or exacerbate allergies as well. Have you had a

history of lung issues or is it a first time. Do you think it could be detox

from the whey, selenium, etc?

Commonly allopathics reccomend a 7 day course of steroids for bronchitis. Of

course it's not too good for you, but sometimes it can knock it out.

Has something changed in your physical environment? This time of year,

depending on where you live, mold will also be more prolific. May, July, October

and November are according to my allergist the worst months for mold.

Advair is a combination of steroids and albuterol. Some people do okay on it.

Do make sure to gargle with apple cider vinegar afterwards. That will help

remove and sterilize your mouth from the steroids, which unfortunately can cause

thrush. You can also try warm water and sea salt, but I think the ac vinegar is

better. But do it as scrupulously as you can. If you notice you develop a sore

throat or lose your voice a bit, it can be from the advair. If you still have to

use it, try a twisthaler like asthmanex which is in a powder form and less

likely to cause throat or oral thrush. It's still a steroid, but is slightly

better than the aerosol inhalors.

Do you have a good tcm doctor and/or acupunturist nearby. They would often be

very good at trying to help you determine a more holisitc diagnosis at leat and

acpuncture can help asthma.

I hope you get better soon and get off the meds, but if you have to, take

them. You don't want to push yourself.

I do remember that Duncan listed whey, selenium, vit D and C as good things

for asthma, right Duncan?

Take Care,

Gail <gmgblues@...> wrote:

I'm not sure if this is related to my Candida or not. After not

feeling too well for a couple months with chest congestion and

shortness of breath, I finally went to the Dr. who diagnosed me with

a mild case of bronchitis. He prescribed an antibiotic that I didn't

really want to take, but nothing else I tried was helping. Well, the

antibiotic did nothing. I then tried some natural supplements and

they didn't help either. Last week I was really, really sick and

very short of breath. Went back to Dr. Tues and he said the fact

that the antibiotic didn't work tells him it is an inflammation of

the lung. So, reluctantly, I'm now using Advair. It is helping -

congestion is finally breaking up and am coughing much less, though

still pretty short of breath.

Could this be something caused by the Candida? I am following the

diet very strictly and am taking the whey, inulin & selenium daily

(though for a while I tended to skip a day here and there). Plus I

take a lot of other supplements.

Any other natural alternatives to get this inflammation under control?

Thanks.

Gail

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Thank you, . I used to get bronchitis faithfully twice a year,

every year when I was young. But I haven't had it in 30 years!

I don't think it's detox because I've been taking the whey, etc for

several months. Another thing I just thought of is that I had an

abscessed tooth a while ago, about the same time my coughing and

congestion started. Perhaps that played a part in it. Also, I live

in a rural area where allergens abound

I didn't realize I could get oral thrush from the Advair. So far I

haven't had that reaction from it. I've had a few headaches and a

slight rash. I did have a bit of sore throat for a while but seems

ok now. I get a sore throat when I do get oral thrush. I always get

oral thrush or a rash if I eat too many carbs or anything with sugar.

The Dr. also gave me a prescription for prednisone. I really didn't

want to take that so am waiting to see how the Advair does. It is in

a powder form.

There is only one natrapath in the area and am not sure how good he

is.

Anyway, thanks for the info and I think I'll do the ACV rinse.

Gail

>

> Gail,

>

> Candida can affect the lungs or exacerbate allergies as well.

Have you had a history of lung issues or is it a first time. Do you

think it could be detox from the whey, selenium, etc?

>

> Commonly allopathics reccomend a 7 day course of steroids for

bronchitis. Of course it's not too good for you, but sometimes it can

knock it out.

>

> Has something changed in your physical environment? This time of

year, depending on where you live, mold will also be more prolific.

May, July, October and November are according to my allergist the

worst months for mold.

>

> Advair is a combination of steroids and albuterol. Some people do

okay on it. Do make sure to gargle with apple cider vinegar

afterwards. That will help remove and sterilize your mouth from the

steroids, which unfortunately can cause thrush. You can also try warm

water and sea salt, but I think the ac vinegar is better. But do it

as scrupulously as you can. If you notice you develop a sore throat

or lose your voice a bit, it can be from the advair. If you still

have to use it, try a twisthaler like asthmanex which is in a powder

form and less likely to cause throat or oral thrush. It's still a

steroid, but is slightly better than the aerosol inhalors.

>

> Do you have a good tcm doctor and/or acupunturist nearby. They

would often be very good at trying to help you determine a more

holisitc diagnosis at leat and acpuncture can help asthma.

>

> I hope you get better soon and get off the meds, but if you have

to, take them. You don't want to push yourself.

>

> I do remember that Duncan listed whey, selenium, vit D and C as

good things for asthma, right Duncan?

>

> Take Care,

>

>

[Guest guest]

You can do it with just the Advair. I use it now when I start

wheezing or my lungs feel inflamed from an allergy or chemical

sensitivity. I don't have asthma but sensitive lungs. Probably from

when I was a kid and got pneumonia and bronchitis a lot. Probably

have scarred lung tissue.

The Advair helps a lot. I'm glad to hear they are prescribing Advair

without necessarily having to take it all the time. My doctor knew

that having the powdered steroid sit right on the inflamed tissue of

the lung/bronchial/esophagus would help it a lot. If nothing else it

brings instant relief and then the other symptoms can work themselves

out- which could take time.

[Guest guest]

Have you tried a salt pipe. This worked really well for my congested lungs

when I caught 'flu from my daughter. Dee

-- Inflammation of the Lungs

I'm not sure if this is related to my Candida or not. After not

Feeling too well for a couple months with chest congestion and

Shortness of breath, I finally went to the Dr. Who diagnosed me with

A mild case of bronchitis. He prescribed an antibiotic that I didn't

Really want to take, but nothing else I tried was helping. Well, the

Antibiotic did nothing. I then tried some natural supplements and

They didn't help either.

[Guest guest]

Gail, maybe Mucomyst, a glutathione aerosol that's used for lung

inflammation, would help.

Maybe you're taking not enough whey? I've relieved COPD with it,

vitamin C, vitamin E b-complex and selenium.

Duncan

>

> I'm not sure if this is related to my Candida or not. After not

> feeling too well for a couple months with chest congestion and

> shortness of breath, I finally went to the Dr. who diagnosed me

with

> a mild case of bronchitis. He prescribed an antibiotic that I

didn't

> really want to take, but nothing else I tried was helping. Well,

the

> antibiotic did nothing. I then tried some natural supplements and

> they didn't help either. Last week I was really, really sick and

> very short of breath. Went back to Dr. Tues and he said the fact

> that the antibiotic didn't work tells him it is an inflammation of

> the lung. So, reluctantly, I'm now using Advair. It is helping -

> congestion is finally breaking up and am coughing much less, though

> still pretty short of breath.

>

> Could this be something caused by the Candida? I am following the

> diet very strictly and am taking the whey, inulin & selenium daily

> (though for a while I tended to skip a day here and there). Plus I

> take a lot of other supplements.

>

> Any other natural alternatives to get this inflammation under

control?

>

> Thanks.

> Gail

>

[Guest guest]

Dee,

What is a salt pipe?

Dee <dee@...> wrote:

Have you tried a salt pipe. This worked really well for my congested

lungs

when I caught 'flu from my daughter. Dee

-- Inflammation of the Lungs

I'm not sure if this is related to my Candida or not. After not

Feeling too well for a couple months with chest congestion and

Shortness of breath, I finally went to the Dr. Who diagnosed me with

A mild case of bronchitis. He prescribed an antibiotic that I didn't

Really want to take, but nothing else I tried was helping. Well, the

Antibiotic did nothing. I then tried some natural supplements and

They didn't help either.

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Not, Dee, but - I had never heard of a salt pipe and after some

searching found this info.

" It is a porcelain pipe filled with salt crystals. Its salty

microclimate calms and cleanses the cells of the respiratory system.

When using The Salt Pipe, the moisture of the passing air absorbs the

micron sized particles of the salt, then penetrates into the

respiratory system to achieve the beneficial effects. The sodium

content of the active ingredients induces natural self cleansing

mechanisms that flush away the impurities from the surface of the

cells. Salt particles also mechanically clean the air passages. "

Apparently one uses it for 15-25 min per day. It is supposed to help

with asthma, bronchitis, hayfever, allergies, colds, smoking problems

and COPD. I believe you can only order it online and from the UK.

Costs about $60 but lasts for 5 years.

If this truly works, it would be worth the investment.

Gail

> Have you tried a salt pipe. This worked really well for

my congested lungs

> when I caught 'flu from my daughter. Dee

>

[Guest guest]

Is Mucomyst only obtained by prescription?

I only take the whey once a day. Maybe I should take it more, but I

sometimes have a hard time fitting it in once. I take all the other

supplements you mention and took lots of extra C for a while which

didn't help too much.

Interesting you mentioned the glutathione aerosol as I read some

information recently where it is being used successfully at some

clinic in CA. I didn't know if it was available to the general

public and guess I didn't do any follow-up research.

Thanks.

Gail

>

> Gail, maybe Mucomyst, a glutathione aerosol that's used for lung

> inflammation, would help.

>

> Maybe you're taking not enough whey? I've relieved COPD with it,

> vitamin C, vitamin E b-complex and selenium.

>

> Duncan

>

[Guest guest]

I've got something similar. But I don't put salt in it.

D.M.

Re: Inflammation of the Lungs

Not, Dee, but - I had never heard of a salt pipe and after some

searching found this info.

" It is a porcelain pipe filled with salt crystals. Its salty

microclimate calms and cleanses the cells of the respiratory system.

When using The Salt Pipe, the moisture of the passing air absorbs the

micron sized particles of the salt, then penetrates into the

respiratory system to achieve the beneficial effects. The sodium

content of the active ingredients induces natural self cleansing

mechanisms that flush away the impurities from the surface of the

cells. Salt particles also mechanically clean the air passages. "

Apparently one uses it for 15-25 min per day. It is supposed to help

with asthma, bronchitis, hayfever, allergies, colds, smoking problems

and COPD. I believe you can only order it online and from the UK.

Costs about $60 but lasts for 5 years.

If this truly works, it would be worth the investment.

Gail

> Have you tried a salt pipe. This worked really well for

my congested lungs

> when I caught 'flu from my daughter. Dee

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Gail,

An abcessed tooth could definately be an issue. How did you treat it? If the

tooth seemed to subside could still be a residual infection there. Also,

cavitations from underlying infections, even from a previously pulled tooth can

cause problems like that. Do you have a good biological dentist? There are some

infections/cavitations that can be treated with various injections from ozone to

zinc oxide.

Advair has serevent in it, a steroid. All steroids have the capapcity to

exacerbate yeast and/or candida. The fact that it is in powder form is a plus.

The garlging is crucial. If you haven't done it before, that's why you've had

the throat trouble. Then the acv gargles should really help you to relieve your

throat.

Prednisone can sometimes knock out a lung infection, but of course it has it's

price. The only benefit is that it may relief any longer term use on the

inhalors. But you should trust your intuition and do as you've been. I had a

seven day course on one occassion years ago that totally knocked it out. But the

more recent occassion when I caught bronchitis a couple of years later after

heart surgery it didn't help at all.

A good naturopath could surely help, but its a very different animal from tcm

or acupuncture.

That post on peroxide or perhaps ozone inhaling via the olive oil might help?

Perhaps Saul or someone on the oxy list could guide you through that.

Goodluck. Let me know please if I can help.

Gail <gmgblues@...> wrote:

Thank you, . I used to get bronchitis faithfully twice a year,

every year when I was young. But I haven't had it in 30 years!

I don't think it's detox because I've been taking the whey, etc for

several months. Another thing I just thought of is that I had an

abscessed tooth a while ago, about the same time my coughing and

congestion started. Perhaps that played a part in it. Also, I live

in a rural area where allergens abound

I didn't realize I could get oral thrush from the Advair. So far I

haven't had that reaction from it. I've had a few headaches and a

slight rash. I did have a bit of sore throat for a while but seems

ok now. I get a sore throat when I do get oral thrush. I always get

oral thrush or a rash if I eat too many carbs or anything with sugar.

The Dr. also gave me a prescription for prednisone. I really didn't

want to take that so am waiting to see how the Advair does. It is in

a powder form.

There is only one natrapath in the area and am not sure how good he

is.

Anyway, thanks for the info and I think I'll do the ACV rinse.

Gail

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Ducan,

What doses of the supplements would you suggest? Do they need to be taken

together?

Thanks,

Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote:

Gail, maybe Mucomyst, a glutathione aerosol that's used for lung

inflammation, would help.

Maybe you're taking not enough whey? I've relieved COPD with it,

vitamin C, vitamin E b-complex and selenium.

Duncan

>

> I'm not sure if this is related to my Candida or not. After not

> feeling too well for a couple months with chest congestion and

> shortness of breath, I finally went to the Dr. who diagnosed me

with

> a mild case of bronchitis. He prescribed an antibiotic that I

didn't

> really want to take, but nothing else I tried was helping. Well,

the

> antibiotic did nothing. I then tried some natural supplements and

> they didn't help either. Last week I was really, really sick and

> very short of breath. Went back to Dr. Tues and he said the fact

> that the antibiotic didn't work tells him it is an inflammation of

> the lung. So, reluctantly, I'm now using Advair. It is helping -

> congestion is finally breaking up and am coughing much less, though

> still pretty short of breath.

>

> Could this be something caused by the Candida? I am following the

> diet very strictly and am taking the whey, inulin & selenium daily

> (though for a while I tended to skip a day here and there). Plus I

> take a lot of other supplements.

>

> Any other natural alternatives to get this inflammation under

control?

>

> Thanks.

> Gail

>

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[Guest guest]

, I had the abscess for about a month before I realized it and

then it was almost another month before I had it extracted. I just

wonder if during that time the infection could have travelled to my

lungs.

The Advair has helped some but I still am not doing too well. I'm

considering the Prednisone, even though I don't really want to take

it. I have a part time job and have not been able to work for the

past two weeks because of being so short of breath. If the

Prednisone will work faster then I may have to do that. Although the

Dr. did say there were three dosage levels of the Advair and he gave

me the lowest strength. Maybe I should get one of the higher

strength dosages.

I appreciate all your suggestions and well wishes.

Gail

>

> Hi Gail,

>

> An abcessed tooth could definately be an issue. How did you treat

it? If the tooth seemed to subside could still be a residual

infection there. Also, cavitations from underlying infections, even

from a previously pulled tooth can cause problems like that. Do you

have a good biological dentist? There are some infections/cavitations

that can be treated with various injections from ozone to zinc oxide.

>

> Advair has serevent in it, a steroid. All steroids have the

capapcity to exacerbate yeast and/or candida. The fact that it is in

powder form is a plus. The garlging is crucial. If you haven't done

it before, that's why you've had the throat trouble. Then the acv

gargles should really help you to relieve your throat.

>

> Prednisone can sometimes knock out a lung infection, but of

course it has it's price. The only benefit is that it may relief any

longer term use on the inhalors. But you should trust your intuition

and do as you've been. I had a seven day course on one occassion

years ago that totally knocked it out. But the more recent occassion

when I caught bronchitis a couple of years later after heart surgery

it didn't help at all.

>

> A good naturopath could surely help, but its a very different

animal from tcm or acupuncture.

>

> That post on peroxide or perhaps ozone inhaling via the olive oil

might help? Perhaps Saul or someone on the oxy list could guide you

through that.

>

> Goodluck. Let me know please if I can help.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think doing a search on " advair warning " will temper your enthusiasm

for the drug, especially because the asthma responds to nutrient as a

nutritional deficiency and you know there's no such thing as a drug

deficiency.

Duncan

>

> You can do it with just the Advair. I use it now when I start

> wheezing or my lungs feel inflamed from an allergy or chemical

> sensitivity. I don't have asthma but sensitive lungs. Probably from

> when I was a kid and got pneumonia and bronchitis a lot. Probably

> have scarred lung tissue.

>

> The Advair helps a lot. I'm glad to hear they are prescribing Advair

> without necessarily having to take it all the time. My doctor knew

> that having the powdered steroid sit right on the inflamed tissue of

> the lung/bronchial/esophagus would help it a lot. If nothing else it

> brings instant relief and then the other symptoms can work themselves

> out- which could take time.

>

[Guest guest]

, the supplements are the same ones and quantity as we're taking

for bowel disorders on this list.

Duncan

[Guest guest]

I'd rather use Advair for one or two days then go to the ER and be put

on a steroid IV or oral prednisone. That's how I see it. It's the

minimal dose and I barely use it.

[Guest guest]

Colloidal or more correctly named, electrically isolated silver (EIS) would

have cleared this up in no time. Marvellous, non toxic, completely safe

that will kill almost all bacteria and viral infections. I use it all the

time for me and my family, plus dog and it works 100% of the time on

infections. Dee

-- Re: Inflammation of the Lungs

, I had the abscess for about a month before I realized it and

Then it was almost another month before I had it extracted. I just

Wonder if during that time the infection could have travelled to my

Lungs.

The Advair has helped some but I still am not doing too well. I'm

Considering the Prednisone, even though I don't really want to take

It.

[Guest guest]

This is exactly what I have, and it worked beautifully for me. I have

dodgy' lungs and the last time I came down with 'flu, although I got rid of

most of the nasty things associated with it i.e. Sore throat, headaches, and

aches and pains with CS, I usually have to have AB's for my chest infection.

This time I got the salt pipe and it worked beautifully. I still inhale

from it from time to time and so far, I haven't had to go to the docs with

my lungs at all. Dee

-------Original Message-------

Re: Inflammation of the Lungs

Not, Dee, but - I had never heard of a salt pipe and after some

Searching found this info.

" It is a porcelain pipe filled with salt crystals. Its salty

Microclimate calms and cleanses the cells of the respiratory system.

When using The Salt Pipe, the moisture of the passing air absorbs the

Micron sized particles of the salt, then penetrates into the

Respiratory system to achieve the beneficial effects. The sodium

Content of the active ingredients induces natural self cleansing

Mechanisms that flush away the impurities from the surface of the

Cells. Salt particles also mechanically clean the air passages. "

[Guest guest]

I used the Colloidal silver and it did not clear it up. It helped

some but did not clear it up.

Gail

>

> Colloidal or more correctly named, electrically isolated silver

(EIS) would

> have cleared this up in no time. Marvellous, non toxic, completely

safe

> that will kill almost all bacteria and viral infections. I use it

all the

> time for me and my family, plus dog and it works 100% of the time on

> infections. Dee

>

> -- Re: Inflammation of the Lungs

>

>

>

> , I had the abscess for about a month before I realized it and

>

> Then it was almost another month before I had it extracted. I just

>

> Wonder if during that time the infection could have travelled to my

>

> Lungs.

>

>

>

> The Advair has helped some but I still am not doing too well. I'm

>

> Considering the Prednisone, even though I don't really want to take

>

> It.

>

[Guest guest]

This is very heartening to hear. I'm definitely on the verge of

ordering. I was just hoping to find a few more testimonials. I may

go ahead and order anyway.

Thanks.

Gail

>

> This is exactly what I have, and it worked beautifully for me. I

have

> dodgy' lungs and the last time I came down with 'flu, although I

got rid of

> most of the nasty things associated with it i.e. Sore throat,

headaches, and

> aches and pains with CS, I usually have to have AB's for my chest

infection.

> This time I got the salt pipe and it worked beautifully. I still

inhale

> from it from time to time and so far, I haven't had to go to the

docs with

> my lungs at all. Dee

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

>

>

>

>

> Re: Inflammation of the Lungs

>

>

>

>

>

> Not, Dee, but - I had never heard of a salt pipe and after some

>

> Searching found this info.

>

>

>

> " It is a porcelain pipe filled with salt crystals. Its salty

>

> Microclimate calms and cleanses the cells of the respiratory

system.

>

> When using The Salt Pipe, the moisture of the passing air absorbs

the

>

> Micron sized particles of the salt, then penetrates into the

>

> Respiratory system to achieve the beneficial effects. The sodium

>

> Content of the active ingredients induces natural self cleansing

>

> Mechanisms that flush away the impurities from the surface of the

>

> Cells. Salt particles also mechanically clean the air passages. "

>

[Guest guest]

Did you try it with DMSO? Dee

-- Re: Inflammation of the Lungs

I used the Colloidal silver and it did not clear it up. It helped

Some but did not clear it up.

Gail

[Guest guest]

Hi,

This topic hits home for me. I have bilateral

bronchiectasis that has progressed during the last

couple of years after moving to Houston,TX. On a

daily basis I experience chronic coughing and I have

had repeated lung infections. I have tried many herbs

to combat the infections including many months of

Colloidal Silver, Propolis, Oregon Grape, Golden Seal,

etc. Plus I take a lot of other supplements. Nothing

has worked thus far. I am reluctantly taking AB's

now, but even they are losing their effectiveness and

I am having break-through coughing.

I have been reading this thread closely and I do

appreciate all the information that is being shared.

The salt pipe sounds interesting and I am thinking of

ordering one now, but was wondering if anyone has

ordered from the UK before?

Best of health to all,

--- Dee <dee@...> wrote:

> Colloidal or more correctly named, electrically

> isolated silver (EIS) would

> have cleared this up in no time. Marvellous, non

> toxic, completely safe

> that will kill almost all bacteria and viral

> infections. I use it all the

> time for me and my family, plus dog and it works

> 100% of the time on

> infections. Dee

>

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[Guest guest]

No, just the colloidal silver.

Gail

>

> Did you try it with DMSO? Dee

>

> -- Re: Inflammation of the Lungs

>

>

>

> I used the Colloidal silver and it did not clear it up. It helped

>

> Some but did not clear it up.

>

>

>

> Gail

>

[Guest guest]

Maybe if you tried a ratio of 10% DMSO and 90% silver, it might work. Dee

-- Re: Inflammation of the Lungs

No, just the colloidal silver.

Gail

[Guest guest]

Hi , yes I am in the UK and ordered mine from Livingiseasy and it was

£26.95 with postage. It would probably have been half that in the States

but sometimes the postage is prohibitive. dee

-- Re: Re: Inflammation of the Lungs

Hi,

This topic hits home for me. I have bilateral

Bronchiectasis that has progressed during the last

Couple of years after moving to Houston,TX. On a

Daily basis I experience chronic coughing and I have

Had repeated lung infections. I have tried many herbs

To combat the infections including many months of

Colloidal Silver, Propolis, Oregon Grape, Golden Seal,

Etc. Plus I take a lot of other supplements. Nothing

Has worked thus far. I am reluctantly taking AB's

Now, but even they are losing their effectiveness and

I am having break-through coughing.

I have been reading this thread closely and I do

Appreciate all the information that is being shared.

The salt pipe sounds interesting and I am thinking of

Ordering one now, but was wondering if anyone has

Ordered from the UK before?

Best of health to all,